View Full Version : Trying this again, 50 or older,would you date someone in their 20's?
traditional_woman
October 2nd, 2009, 7:00 pm
http://hot.aol.com/2009/09/16/sean-penns-new-flame
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag/2008/06/hulk-hogans-wif.html
Sorry, I know some of you responded already, but my images were too big:(
Why ''yes'', why ''no''?
CaughtInTheMiddle
October 2nd, 2009, 7:15 pm
If they think Lynyrd Skynyrd is a person, I can't date 'em. But I'm married anyway.
XDEM
October 2nd, 2009, 7:18 pm
Why ''yes'', why ''no''?
As an older man my answer is yes. There is absolutely nothing wrong with older men dating younger women. In fact, a lot of younger women only date men older than them because most older men are more financially secure than most younger men and can provide for any children the woman may have. Because of that, a lot of men are in their forties before they can have children and women their own age can no longer have children. Therefore, it only makes sense for those men to want to date younger women.
On the other hand, it makes absolutely no sense for older women to date younger men except as a booty call.
Army Wife
October 2nd, 2009, 7:24 pm
...did anyone think how creepy it was that the boy toy kind of looks like Hulk Hogan
gdoane
October 2nd, 2009, 7:43 pm
While I'm not in my 50's yet, I don't think I'd date somebody 30 years younger than me (besides, a 15-year-old might be a little illegal) because there's just not a lot in common with somebody that much younger.
If I'm talking about retirement and she's talking about having kids that's quite a disconnect because I don't want to be 60-something chasing around a preteen kid.
It wouldn't be fair to the kid having such an old parent, and it wouldn't be fair to the woman in about 30 years to turn her into a 50-year-old widow when you died of old age.
Ninjacorpse
October 2nd, 2009, 7:44 pm
I am in my 20's and i would date someone in their 50's.
XDEM
October 2nd, 2009, 7:50 pm
While I'm not in my 50's yet, I don't think I'd date somebody 30 years younger than me (besides, a 15-year-old might be a little illegal) because there's just not a lot in common with somebody that much younger.
That may be your reason for not dating a younger woman but who are older men that want to have their own biological children supposed to date except younger women?
XDEM
October 2nd, 2009, 7:51 pm
I am in my 20's and i would date someone in their 50's.
Just curious. Why?
Ninjacorpse
October 2nd, 2009, 7:58 pm
Just curious. Why?
I like strong willed women that are responsible. I see that more in older women than i do their younger counterparts.
XDEM
October 2nd, 2009, 8:11 pm
I like strong willed women that are responsible. I see that more in older women than i do their younger counterparts.
You should have no problem finding older women to date you because a lot of them date younger men so that they can dominate them. However, you will have a problem having your own biological children if you only date older women.
gdoane
October 2nd, 2009, 8:16 pm
That may be your reason for not dating a younger woman but who are older men that want to have their own biological children supposed to date except younger women?
There's a lot more to rearing a child than just working reproductive organs. If the couple isn't compatible as life partners they're not going to be compatible as parents either and the kid will wind up suffering for it.
And again, I don't think it's fair to the kid who is going to be burying a parent by the time they turn 30. One of life's pleasures is being an adult with your parents after you grow up. I'm 45 and my Dad is 65, and I'm enjoying my time with my parents for hopefully at least another decade. If my dad had waited until he was 50 or older, I wouldn't have had but a few short years with him before he got too old to do much of anything like camping, fishing, hiking or biking.
I'm not going to have any kids and even at my age I wouldn't think it's fair to a kid if I couldn't be a parent to the child for at least 40 years.
Ninjacorpse
October 2nd, 2009, 8:22 pm
You should have no problem finding older women to date you because a lot of them date younger men so that they can dominate them. However, you will have a problem having your own biological children if you only date older women.
Thats not a problem, I can always adopt. While i would like to be able to have my own biological children, it is more important to me that both parents be responsible for raising children, if that is what myself and my imaginary spouse choose to do lol.
malnila
October 2nd, 2009, 8:27 pm
You should have no problem finding older women to date you because a lot of them date younger men so that they can dominate them. However, you will have a problem having your own biological children if you only date older women.
Boy, that's one heck of a statement. I'm 53 but no way would date someone that much younger then me. I don't have children, possibly can't have children - why would I want to "raise" my mate? There are also a lot of younger men that don't want children or can't have children for some reason. Why do you feel the heterosexual relationships should only be to procreate? And also contrary to popular belief, older women can have children. It's just not wise to have them because the older you are, the more likelihood of birth defects, etc. In other words, a relationship is a relationship and it's built on two consenting adults and what THEY make of it.
TinCan
October 2nd, 2009, 8:34 pm
Well, I'm an old sailor but back in the day when I was single it was 18-80 because age really wasn't a factor as I wasn't looking for any long term commitments, just someone to have fun with. Heaven forbid I become single again then it would be 30 something to 80! :) Well, maybe 40 something to 80, just can't seem to put up with the gigglers anymore. ;)
XDEM
October 2nd, 2009, 8:57 pm
Boy, that's one heck of a statement.
Why is it one heck of a statement? Are you claiming it is inaccurate?
I'm 53 but no way would date someone that much younger then me. I don't have children, possibly can't have children...
That's you. I'm talking about older men who are capable of having children and want them.
- why would I want to "raise" my mate?
Are you asserting that all young women in their 20's are immature?
There are also a lot of younger men that don't want children or can't have children for some reason.
I didn't say there aren't. There are also a lot of younger men who are gigolos.
Why do you feel the heterosexual relationships should only be to procreate?
What have I said that makes you think I feel that heterosexual relationships should only be to procreate?
And also contrary to popular belief, older women can have children. It's just not wise to have them because the older you are, the more likelihood of birth defects, etc.
I never said or implied that no older women can have children. However, it's a fact that most older women can't have children.
In other words, a relationship is a relationship and it's built on two consenting adults and what THEY make of it.
Mon ami, I'm 62 years old. I don't need to be lectured by you about what makes a good relationship.
Are you asserting that there is something wrong with older men who want to have a biological child having a relationship with a younger woman who also wants a biological child and who wants financial security for that child?
Seanachie
October 2nd, 2009, 9:36 pm
Yes: In keeping with traditions in the old adage:
'Keeping a woman half your age in your life....keeps you young'. (Of course; you have to wait till you're at least 36 to legally avoid a disastrous Polanski debacle).
It's that whole 'keeping' part that ruffles my ever disappearing feathers in a not so kind way. I will definitely live out the rest of my days in a 'single' fashion; featherless. No doubts there on either count.
Tongue in cheek,
Jim
PS: A woman half my age (58) with ADD....Hmmmm.....there's an answer for every dilemma.
PSS: Just did the math.....most women who reach age 29; remain there for all eternity. There goes that whole Dang Theory along with my ever dwindling feathers!
JenyEliza
October 2nd, 2009, 9:48 pm
I'm single--approaching 50 and all I can say is.
HELL.
NO.
I don't need another child to raise. My kids are teens. Someone in their twenties would be just another kid to raise for me.
No thanks.
If I'm going to spend time dating---it's going to be with a real, live, honest to God grown up MAN. I don't care if he has a spare tire, is balding, graying or whatever. He's earned it all living life.
I don't need anymore children. I don't give a damn how frisky a 20-something would be, that's not what makes a relationship good. That's all temporary and it fades quickly. Real quickly. And if you don't have anything else in common, there's nothing left to the relationship. Who needs that?
Nope. My final answer is HELL NO. NO WAY.
newyorkjetsfan
October 2nd, 2009, 10:09 pm
I would if she's good-looking and not a vegan. :)
khigh
October 2nd, 2009, 10:27 pm
I would if I wasn't married. Since I have turned 18, my husband is the only guy I have ever dated that was not a whole lot older than me. He is 1 year younger.
The day I turned 18, I started dating one of my crushes, who was 36 at the time and counting the day to my 18th birthday. Oldest guy I have ever dated was 42. I was 19. Both young at heart and healthy. Didn't hurt that both of them were Marines, either. Most of the crushes I have had (movie stars) have always been late 40's-early 50's.
coyote1880
October 2nd, 2009, 10:39 pm
As many of you know, I am eighty six.
Recently I had the chance to go on a date with a much younger lady.
We spent the entire day exploring cultural icons from my time and hers.
We enjoyed a candle lit dinner that included entertainment.
She and I enjoyed every minute of this time.
Then, around nine o'clock, the fireworks started.
Did I mention she was eighty years my junior?
She is Lil Coyote's cousin.
We spent the day at Disney World's Magic Kingdom along with her family.
:)
Seanachie
October 2nd, 2009, 11:12 pm
As many of you know, I am eighty six.
Recently I had the chance to go on a date with a much younger lady.
We spent the entire day exploring cultural icons from my time and hers.
We enjoyed a candle lit dinner that included entertainment.
She and I enjoyed every minute of this time.
Then, around nine o'clock, the fireworks started.
Did I mention she was eighty years my junior?
She is Lil Coyote's cousin.
We spent the day at Disney World's Magic Kingdom along with her family.
:)
Wow! What a wonderful story. Does anyone ever see a broad smile from an ole codger when he is alone? Yep! when he writes about it and posts that smiley emoticon here.
Thanks for the lovely story!
Jim
:)
gdoane
October 2nd, 2009, 11:14 pm
As many of you know, I am eighty six.
Recently I had the chance to go on a date with a much younger lady.
We spent the entire day exploring cultural icons from my time and hers.
We enjoyed a candle lit dinner that included entertainment.
She and I enjoyed every minute of this time.
Then, around nine o'clock, the fireworks started.
Did I mention she was eighty years my junior?
She is Lil Coyote's cousin.
We spent the day at Disney World's Magic Kingdom along with her family.
:)
Disney World actually kind of made me realize the difference between kids and adults.
I was stationed in Mayport, Fl (think Jacksonville) for about 5 years and Kissimmee is just a couple of hours drive. Being active duty military, Disney World gives a really sweet military discount which I often took advantage of.
I did go to Disneyworld as a kid a couple of times, and when I was a child I wanted to go on the rides. Being an adult at Disney World, I wanted to hang around Epcot Center and didn't really care for the rides all that much anymore.
If I'd have been with a kid I'd have probably been going on the rides for the kids' sake but as a grown man I enjoyed the Epcot Pavilions a lot more than I did as a kid.
A few years makes a huge difference, even in Disneyworld.
malnila
October 2nd, 2009, 11:49 pm
snip...
Are you asserting that there is something wrong with older men who want to have a biological child having a relationship with a younger woman who also wants a biological child and who wants financial security for that child?
I'm not asserting anything. Just giving you my female take on "May-December" relationships. But yes, I do believe that someone 30 years younger than I am, I would have to almost feel like raising them as a child. They don't have the same experiences as I have. Shoot, how could you have anything in common with someone that much younger than yourself UNLESS it was only for physical reasons? But more power to them if that's the relationship that the two parties decide on. Like I said a relationship is what you make of it.
jimjames418
October 3rd, 2009, 12:17 am
Originally Posted by Ninjacorpse http://forums.hannity.com/firestorm/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?p=61970961#post61970961)
I am in my 20's and i would date someone in their 50's.
Just curious. Why?
They don't yell, they don't swell, and they are grateful as hell. ;)
coyote1880
October 3rd, 2009, 12:44 am
Disney World actually kind of made me realize the difference between kids and adults.
I was stationed in Mayport, Fl (think Jacksonville) for about 5 years and Kissimmee is just a couple of hours drive. Being active duty military, Disney World gives a really sweet military discount which I often took advantage of.
I did go to Disneyworld as a kid a couple of times, and when I was a child I wanted to go on the rides. Being an adult at Disney World, I wanted to hang around Epcot Center and didn't really care for the rides all that much anymore.
If I'd have been with a kid I'd have probably been going on the rides for the kids' sake but as a grown man I enjoyed the Epcot Pavilions a lot more than I did as a kid.
A few years makes a huge difference, even in Disneyworld.
Gene,
I also enjoy epcot.
I have enjoyed a sedate walk doing nothing but watching people.
I have enjoyed dining on foods from all over the world.
I have enjoyed the movies and exhibits designed to teach.
I have even had the pleasure of performing there.
But nothing beats the smile on a six year old's face while riding the Dumbo ride.
Or meeting Mickey for the first time.
Or having a heart to heart with Cinderella.
coyote1880
October 3rd, 2009, 12:46 am
Wow! What a wonderful story. Does anyone ever see a broad smile from an ole codger when he is alone? Yep! when he writes about it and posts that smiley emoticon here.
Thanks for the lovely story!
Jim
:)
Thank Dona-Maria.
It was she that made this story.
ISYairio
October 3rd, 2009, 2:04 am
I'm 20.... no I honestly can't see myself dating a 50 year old. Heck I don't even date people my age. :P
But my mother is 39 and is dating someone like 24, he has a 2 year old...
Gabby
October 3rd, 2009, 2:04 am
As an older man my answer is yes. There is absolutely nothing wrong with older men dating younger women. In fact, a lot of younger women only date men older than them because most older men are more financially secure than most younger men and can provide for any children the woman may have. Because of that, a lot of men are in their forties before they can have children and women their own age can no longer have children. Therefore, it only makes sense for those men to want to date younger women.
Most men who go out with younger women are not doing it to have children with the women. They are dating for companionship and the sex with a young thing. It’s more about a man wanting to go out with a young woman because she looks hot and it makes him forget that he’s getting old.
Most of the young women who go out with older men go out with the man because of his money and perceived power. Do you really think that those young trophy types would go out with Donald Trump if he was not rich and powerful? They would not give him a second look without his money.
On the other hand, it makes absolutely no sense for older women to date younger men except as a booty call.
LOL, a bit sexist of you now isn’t it?
Men date young women mostly for the companionship and sex. I suppose older women dating younger men do so for the same reason.
I have a friend who started dating a 30 year old man when she was 52. It’s been 10 years and they are still living together. They adore each other. She has a grown son. He has a child his has not seen since his ex-wife returned to her country with the child a long time ago. He has no idea where his son is. He does not want to go through that heart break again so he does not want any children.
I work with 2 young men who are married to women who are 20 years older than they are. The marriages seem happy.
More and more, as women get more social and professional standing on their own, we will see more and more women going out with and even marrying younger men.
If it’s ok for a man to do it, it’s ok for a man to do it. The issue is more that people are not used to seeing men with older women. But it makes sense. Women outlive men by many years as a rule. So it makes sense we would marry younger men.. to have fewer years alone.
I am currently married to a man who is 6 years younger than I. My plan is that my next husband will be at least 12 years younger. :dance:
There is that 101 year old woman in India is who is now looking for her 23rd husband. Her 22nd husband is 36, but he’s got some problems, so she’s looking for another nice young man. .. more power to her.
Ninjacorpse
October 3rd, 2009, 2:39 am
I'm 20.... no I honestly can't see myself dating a 50 year old. Heck I don't even date people my age. :P
But my mother is 39 and is dating someone like 24, he has a 2 year old...
I would date your mom.
Ninjacorpse
October 3rd, 2009, 2:40 am
:razz:
Residential Bob
October 3rd, 2009, 3:18 am
I prefer older women. My last fiance was ten years older. My wife now is five years older.
More than half the women I've been with have been older, and I've never been with anyone more than four years younger than I. That would be, like, way too totally rad for me, Man.
ISYairio
October 3rd, 2009, 4:21 am
I would date your mom.
-_-
mgifford
October 3rd, 2009, 6:25 am
The two "Cougars" that I was seeing were fabulous years ago (both 36), then I turned 20 & got serious about my now life & wife who's 3 years younger. I can remember when in my State a male could get married at 21, but a woman could get married at 18, because they said that women were more mature than men. I certainly believe that.
mysticbeauty_nbeast
October 3rd, 2009, 1:16 pm
http://hot.aol.com/2009/09/16/sean-penns-new-flame
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag/2008/06/hulk-hogans-wif.html
Sorry, I know some of you responded already, but my images were too big:(
Why ''yes'', why ''no''?
My eye's! My eye's! Dang...What is Linda Hogan thinking? 19 year old boy toy? Dear God...boys just barely outta high school! :rolleyes: That's just wrong ....on so many levels! At least keep it no more then a 20 year spread in age.....:hand:
the Hulk himself...heck, at least he's dating a 34 year old woman. Not a baby like his ex wife's new toy. Two adults making a conscience choice to date...ok...a barely there adult and (let's face it) near senior citizen dating...that's just gross imo. Wouldn't matter if Linda was a guy and dating a 19 year old girl...it's still gross! Heck , look at Hugh Heffner...makes me gag to see a 70 plus year old man hang out and date 20 something. Talk about pervy!
Honestly, does anyone really believe these young wanna be's are dating these old farts for anything but a 15 minute ride to fame? Money? Trips? Gifts? If these senior citizens didn't have any of it to offer..does anyone really belive these babies would be giving them the time of day? :rolleyes:
5 to 10 year stretch is as far as I go...in either directions. Anymore age difference then that, and there's an unhappy ending waiting for you. I'm in my early 40's...so 45 to 50 is as far as I would even consider going. Dating a 30 something male...oh shoot me first! lol...no thank you...been there...done that with my hubby...30's absolutely are horrid on males...couldn't pay me to do it again!
~Mysty
captusa
October 3rd, 2009, 1:28 pm
The question is HOW do I get a woman in her 20s (that looks like the girl with Sean Penn) to date me!
gdoane
October 3rd, 2009, 1:32 pm
The question is HOW do I get a woman in her 20s (that looks like the girl with Sean Penn) to date me!
Apparently the answer to that is "Money".
TinCan
October 3rd, 2009, 1:33 pm
As many of you know, I am eighty six.
Recently I had the chance to go on a date with a much younger lady.
We spent the entire day exploring cultural icons from my time and hers.
We enjoyed a candle lit dinner that included entertainment.
She and I enjoyed every minute of this time.
Then, around nine o'clock, the fireworks started.
Did I mention she was eighty years my junior?
She is Lil Coyote's cousin.
We spent the day at Disney World's Magic Kingdom along with her family.
:)
:)):)):)):clap::clap::clap:
59Flash
October 3rd, 2009, 1:49 pm
The two "Cougars" that I was seeing were fabulous years ago (both 36), then I turned 20 & got serious about my now life & wife who's 3 years younger. I can remember when in my State a male could get married at 21, but a woman could get married at 18, because they said that women were more mature than men. I certainly believe that.
I married a 16 yr old girl. I was 18. We are still married after 31 years.
samurai7
October 3rd, 2009, 2:25 pm
I was 27 and my hubby 21 when we married. I told him we should wait until he finished college, but he wouldn't have it.
Be that as it may, 30 years difference in ages? That's a tad creepy.
peter45
October 3rd, 2009, 2:29 pm
When I was much younger, after I was divorced, I found an inexhaustible supply of women who were looking for a steady paycheck.
They were even willing to take the man that was attached.
The ones my age (35-45) all had the same thing in common. (the ones that I dated)
They were divorced.
They had children.
They knew little or nothing about their ex-husbands.
“Did he have a hobby?”
“I don’t know”. After 15 years of marriage, she didn’t know if he had a hobby?
The even younger ones were even more willing to marry my steady paycheck.
But even though many of them looked very nice, the penalty was that I would need to listen to them on a regular basis.
Which would have been punishment enough.
My wife and I are in our 60s. About 6 months apart in age.
I have never been happier.
CID_0687
October 3rd, 2009, 2:33 pm
When I was 18 I had a short lived romance with a 38 year old woman...that was nice...
I'm 28 now, and there are many ladies in their 50s that I think are attractive, and would have no problem dating...if I wasn't married...
captusa
October 3rd, 2009, 2:36 pm
Apparently the answer to that is "Money".
Unfortunately (for me) that is also the answer to too many other questions.
captusa
October 3rd, 2009, 2:38 pm
When I was 18 I had a short lived romance with a 38 year old woman...that was nice...
I'm 28 now, and there are many ladies in their 50s that I think are attractive, and would have no problem dating...if I wasn't married...
Pretty soon you'll be too old to attract cougars.
bella-day
October 3rd, 2009, 2:41 pm
I've never met anyone 20 years my junior or senior that interested me on any romantic level whatsoever.
Back in my single days, I went out with a man who was 12 years younger. It only lasted for 3 dates. It kind of came to an end for me when he talked about having children. My youngest was 15 at the time. As far as I was concerned having babies was something I enjoyed but preferred to leave in the past.
Besides...who starts talking about having children on the third date?:hand:
Claymore
October 3rd, 2009, 2:54 pm
I took a 20-something on a date late year.
My niece.
:))
nortman
October 3rd, 2009, 2:59 pm
http://hot.aol.com/2009/09/16/sean-penns-new-flame
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag/2008/06/hulk-hogans-wif.html
Sorry, I know some of you responded already, but my images were too big:(
Why ''yes'', why ''no''?
I'm not 50 yet, but I'm guessing that my wife would be pretty ****ed if I dated someone in their 20s.
nortman
October 3rd, 2009, 3:02 pm
While I'm not in my 50's yet, I don't think I'd date somebody 30 years younger than me (besides, a 15-year-old might be a little illegal) because there's just not a lot in common with somebody that much younger.
<snip>
You're not supposed to date teens. But if you ply them with liquor and qualudes the celebs in Hollywood will defend you for whatever happens next.
nortman
October 3rd, 2009, 3:08 pm
The question is HOW do I get a woman in her 20s (that looks like the girl with Sean Penn) to date me!
$
gdoane
October 3rd, 2009, 3:23 pm
Pretty soon you'll be too old to attract cougars.
Okay, the whole 'cougar' thing kind of freaks me out.
Is the older woman's boyfriend in prison or what? I'd be afraid, very afraid if a 'cougar' girlfriend said something like "I think we should stop seeing each other until we find out if my old boyfriend passes his parole hearing."
Older women have ex-boyfriends for a reason. They've either killed them, their bf's are in prison or the guys are certifiable maniacs. No guy on the planet wants to meet an ex-boyfriend. Especially not one on parole.
So there's a "baggage" issue that has to be worked out when dealing with older dates. They can have kids, crazy ex's, orders of protection and the ever-popular incurable venereal disease.
Older people have more baggage. It's just the way things go.
XDEM
October 3rd, 2009, 3:49 pm
I'm not asserting anything. Just giving you my female take on "May-December" relationships. But yes, I do believe that someone 30 years younger than I am, I would have to almost feel like raising them as a child. They don't have the same experiences as I have. Shoot, how could you have anything in common with someone that much younger than yourself UNLESS it was only for physical reasons? But more power to them if that's the relationship that the two parties decide on. Like I said a relationship is what you make of it.
older woman + younger man = nothing
older man + older woman = nothing
older man + younger woman = baby
That's what an older man and a younger woman have in common.
Kegler300
October 3rd, 2009, 4:05 pm
Not no, but heck no. I couldn't get the kids out of the house fast enough, and now I'd think about dating (babysitting) a kid?
Ninjacorpse
October 3rd, 2009, 4:10 pm
-_-
:lol:
CID_0687
October 3rd, 2009, 4:12 pm
Pretty soon you'll be too old to attract cougars.
Yeah, that, plus I haven't met many that are chubby chasers...I was about 100 pounds lighter at 18...guess I'll just have to stay married.
Dammit! :lol:
Abe
October 3rd, 2009, 4:26 pm
As many of you know, I am eighty six.
Recently I had the chance to go on a date with a much younger lady.
We spent the entire day exploring cultural icons from my time and hers.
We enjoyed a candle lit dinner that included entertainment.
She and I enjoyed every minute of this time.
Then, around nine o'clock, the fireworks started.
Did I mention she was eighty years my junior?
She is Lil Coyote's cousin.
We spent the day at Disney World's Magic Kingdom along with her family.
:)
:clap::clap::clap::clap:
XDEM
October 3rd, 2009, 4:39 pm
As an older man my answer is yes. There is absolutely nothing wrong with older men dating younger women. In fact, a lot of younger women only date men older than them because most older men are more financially secure than most younger men and can provide for any children the woman may have. Because of that, a lot of men are in their forties before they can have children and women their own age can no longer have children. Therefore, it only makes sense for those men to want to date younger women.
Most men who go out with younger women are not doing it to have children with the women. They are dating for companionship and the sex with a young thing. It’s more about a man wanting to go out with a young woman because she looks hot and it makes him forget that he’s getting old.
I am not talking about why most men in general may date younger women. I am talking about why most older men who don't have children date younger women. As an older man I am not going to have some woman tell me she knows more about why all older men date younger women then I do. The older men who do date younger women for "companionship and sex" know they can hire any prostitute for that. Your claim that older men date younger woman just because they a hot babe to make them forget they're getting old is a sexist remark. Older men are not as shallow as you think they are.
Most of the young women who go out with older men go out with the man because of his money and perceived power. Do you really think that those young trophy types would go out with Donald Trump if he was not rich and powerful? They would not give him a second look without his money.
Why do you think men call those types of young women "gold diggers"? Older men are not as stupid as you women think we are.
On the other hand, it makes absolutely no sense for older women to date younger men except as a booty call.
LOL, a bit sexist of you now isn’t it?
No, that's not a sexist statement. I've already explained why older men who want children date younger women besides for a booty call. There is absolutely no reason for older women to date younger men except as a booty call.
Men date young women mostly for the companionship and sex.
Men date sluts and prostitutes for the companionship and sex.
I suppose older women dating younger men do so for the same reason.
I've already explained the different reason why older men date younger women than why older women date younger men. You just seem not to want to admit it.
I have a friend who started dating a 30 year old man when she was 52. It’s been 10 years and they are still living together. They adore each other. She has a grown son. He has a child his has not seen since his ex-wife returned to her country with the child a long time ago. He has no idea where his son is. He does not want to go through that heart break again so he does not want any children.
I work with 2 young men who are married to women who are 20 years older than they are. The marriages seem happy.
Those examples have nothing to do with what I am talking about.
More and more, as women get more social and professional standing on their own, we will see more and more women going out with and even marrying younger men.
So What? That's their problem if they choose to marry a boy toy instead of a real man.
If it’s ok for a man to do it, it’s ok for a man to do it.
I assume you mean if it’s ok for a man to do it, it’s ok for a woman to do it.
The issue is more that people are not used to seeing men with older women. But it makes sense. Women outlive men by many years as a rule. So it makes sense we would marry younger men.. to have fewer years alone.
Nonsense. A lot of women die young. You are just playing with statistics.
I am currently married to a man who is 6 years younger than I. My plan is that my next husband will be at least 12 years younger.
What's your plan if you die before him?
There is that 101 year old woman in India is who is now looking for her 23rd husband. Her 22nd husband is 36, but he’s got some problems, so she’s looking for another nice young man. .. more power to her.
There are plenty of gigolos in the world. I'm sure she'll find another one.
Abe
October 3rd, 2009, 4:54 pm
I am not talking about why most men in general may date younger women. I am talking about why most older men who don't have children date younger women. As an older man I am not going to have some woman tell me she knows more about why all older men date younger women then I do. The older men who do date younger women for "companionship and sex" know they can hire any prostitute for that. Your claim that older men date younger woman just because they a hot babe to make them forget they're getting old is a sexist remark. Older men are not as shallow as you think they are.
Why do you think men call those types of young women "gold diggers"? Older men are not as stupid as you women think we are.
No, that's not a sexist statement. I've already explained why older men who want children date younger women besides for a booty call. There is absolutely no reason for older women to date younger men except as a booty call.
Men date sluts and prostitutes for the companionship and sex.
I've already explained the different reason why older men date younger women than why older women date younger men. You just seem not to want to admit it.
Those examples have nothing to do with what I am talking about.
So What? That's their problem if they choose to marry a boy toy instead of a real man.
I assume you mean if it’s ok for a man to do it, it’s ok for a woman to do it.
Nonsense. A lot of women die young. You are just playing with statistics.
What's your plan if you die before him?
There are plenty of gigolos in the world. I'm sure she'll find another one.
Older men who date younger women do so for every reason under the sun. Some do it for companionship and/or sex. Hookers can't always fill the void there, especially the companionship thing.
They mey do it as a prelude to marriage. They may want a younger body to look at. They may simply fall in love with a younger woman. They may want a child.
There are many reasons and, as long as they're consenting adults, none of our business.
traditional_woman
October 3rd, 2009, 5:04 pm
I don't know about anyone else but I even find it awkward to have friends who are 10yrs younger(or more) than me, I have 24 yro friend, and she definitely shows her age when we get onto the more serious topics. She is going through things in her marriage that i've already been thru, and when i hear how she deals with it, I think..I can't believe I did that too. Also, you also have to keep in mind when you talk about a certain movie or song, they may have no idea what you're talking about. I find i have less patience w/ younger friends, meaning by the time I come home I'm shaking my head.
Yea, so I definitely couldn't do it!
JenyEliza
October 3rd, 2009, 6:02 pm
I married a 16 yr old girl. I was 18. We are still married after 31 years.
My Dad was 21, Mom 16 when they got married in October 1959.
Their 50th anniversary is next week.
4 children, 5 grandchildren later, they're still as in love as ever. :mrgreen:
And...."they" said it would never last.
59Flash
October 3rd, 2009, 6:13 pm
My Dad was 21, Mom 16 when they got married in October 1959.
Their 50th anniversary is next week.
4 children, 5 grandchildren later, they're still as in love as ever. :mrgreen:
And...."they" said it would never last.
Hmm, they were married a month before I was born. Everybody gave us "2 years" when we got married. We have 2 Girls (women) and 3 grandkids now.
bella-day
October 3rd, 2009, 7:51 pm
I am not talking about why most men in general may date younger women. I am talking about why most older men who don't have children date younger women. As an older man I am not going to have some woman tell me she knows more about why all older men date younger women then I do. The older men who do date younger women for "companionship and sex" know they can hire any prostitute for that. Your claim that older men date younger woman just because they a hot babe to make them forget they're getting old is a sexist remark. Older men are not as shallow as you think they are.
Why do you think men call those types of young women "gold diggers"? Older men are not as stupid as you women think we are.
No, that's not a sexist statement. I've already explained why older men who want children date younger women besides for a booty call. There is absolutely no reason for older women to date younger men except as a booty call.
Men date sluts and prostitutes for the companionship and sex.
I've already explained the different reason why older men date younger women than why older women date younger men. You just seem not to want to admit it.
Those examples have nothing to do with what I am talking about.
So What? That's their problem if they choose to marry a boy toy instead of a real man.
I assume you mean if it’s ok for a man to do it, it’s ok for a woman to do it.
Nonsense. A lot of women die young. You are just playing with statistics.
What's your plan if you die before him?
There are plenty of gigolos in the world. I'm sure she'll find another one.
You know what is so comical about your response to Gabby?
You berate her because you claim she is trying to tell you why older men date younger women...you even go as far as to say you will not have "some woman" tell you why older men date younger women.
Then you proceed to pretend to know why some older women date younger men.
:)):)):))
So you know what goes on in the mind of women but can't wrap your mind around the fact that maybe some women might know what goes on in the mind of some men?
Naaaahhhh
Not sexist at all.:))
Is it too much to imagine that maybe...just maybe...a woman's interest in a man may not be all about the booty call as you say?
Could be...for you anyway.
:))
Thanks for the post.
I needed a good laugh. You certainly provided one with all the built in irony.:D
JenyEliza
October 3rd, 2009, 7:57 pm
Hmm, they were married a month before I was born. Everybody gave us "2 years" when we got married. We have 2 Girls (women) and 3 grandkids now.
Yeah, I think my parents were given about a year or two as well. And of course, there were the requisite rumours that Mom was pregnant and they "had" to get married. When actuality is they simply loved each other and wanted to be married to one another. They started their family *after* they married, not before.
My poor grandfather, though. Mom was his only daughter. My parents eloped, so he was cheated out of giving his daughter away. Of course, he didn't have to foot the bill for a big wedding either. ;)
Anyway....I'd say 50 years married to the same person is a HUGE accomplishment. I'm quite proud of my parents. They've done something not very many people ever do. Not quite sure what to get them--beyond a really nice card. They have everything anyone could ask for--includuing each other. :mrgreen:
XDEM
October 3rd, 2009, 9:14 pm
You know what is so comical about your response to Gabby?
You berate her because you claim she is trying to tell you why older men date younger women...you even go as far as to say you will not have "some woman" tell you why older men date younger women.
Then you proceed to pretend to know why some older women date younger men.
I just set you up like a bowling pin. You and any other woman can't give me one good reason why older women would have a relationship with a younger man except for a booty call. As an older man I gave you the most important reason older men will have a relationship with a younger woman and that is to have a baby.
So you know what goes on in the mind of women but can't wrap your mind around the fact that maybe some women might know what goes on in the mind of some men?
You women have already made it clear to men why older women want to date younger men. I'm just repeating the message. If women don't want men to know how they think about older women dating younger men they should remember that men also watch TV shows like The View, To the Contrary, The Trya Banks Show, etc., where women think they are sitting around talking to only women and expose what they really think about things.
Not sexist at all.
Nope. You just wish that it was in your attempt to disparage me for speaking the truth.
Is it too much to imagine that maybe...just maybe...a woman's interest in a man may not be all about the booty call as you say?
Don't beat around the bush (no pun intended). Tell me one other reason an older woman would date a younger man besides for a booty call.
Thanks for the post.
I needed a good laugh. You certainly provided one with all the built in irony.
Women have been making me laugh for over 40 years since I realized what the feminist movement is really all about. You're not interested in getting equal opportunity for women to win. You're really interested in getting every opportunity for women to win. That's why here in San Francisco when men and women both race in a marathon the men have to give the women so much of a head start it is impossible for a man to win the race any more. :lol::lol::lol:
XDEM
October 3rd, 2009, 9:20 pm
Older men who date younger women do so for every reason under the sun. Some do it for companionship and/or sex. Hookers can't always fill the void there, especially the companionship thing.
They mey do it as a prelude to marriage. They may want a younger body to look at. They may simply fall in love with a younger woman. They may want a child.
So what are you saying that is different from what I have been saying?
Ninjacorpse
October 3rd, 2009, 9:41 pm
Don't beat around the bush (no pun intended). Tell me one other reason an older woman would date a younger man besides for a booty call.
Women live longer than men, maybe they want a companion that will be around during their final years?
XDEM
October 3rd, 2009, 9:46 pm
Women live longer than men, maybe they want a companion that will be around during their final years?
Sorry but that dog won't hunt. A lot of women die young. As I said before, that's just playing with statistics. Free free to give another reason.
Ninjacorpse
October 3rd, 2009, 9:58 pm
Sorry but that dog won't hunt. A lot of women die young. As I said before, that's just playing with statistics. Free free to give another reason.
Maybe they want someone that is more likely to want to leave the house and go out and do things with them?
jimjames418
October 3rd, 2009, 10:05 pm
Women live longer than men, maybe they want a companion that will be around during their final years?
My wife of 50+ years tells me she will kill me if I die first. :redface:
Ninjacorpse
October 3rd, 2009, 10:06 pm
My wife of 50+ years tells me she will kill me if I die first. :redface:
Well you better obey :razz:
bella-day
October 3rd, 2009, 10:09 pm
Sorry but that dog won't hunt. A lot of women die young. As I said before, that's just playing with statistics. Free free to give another reason.
Mental and physical age is very relative for some.
Haven't you ever met someone who thought and felt beyond their years? How about someone whose outlook on life belied their years?
If not, you sir have lead a very dull life indeed...and I've got news for you...those youthful attributes are not gender specific.
The reason people date the people they date are was varied as the individuals.
So don't get into your head that women are capable of thinking of one thing and one thing only while men have the ability to think beyond sex.:rolleyes:
XDEM
October 3rd, 2009, 10:55 pm
Mental and physical age is very relative for some.
Haven't you ever met someone who thought and felt beyond their years? How about someone whose outlook on life belied their years?
If not, you sir have lead a very dull life indeed...and I've got news for you...those youthful attributes are not gender specific.
Sorry to have to explain a fact of life to you but that's all just in your head, my dear. Older people think like older people and younger people think like younger people. There are just some older people who are more aware than other older people and there are younger people who are more aware than other younger people but there are very few younger people who are more aware than most older people.
The reason people date the people they date are was varied as the individuals.
Duh, really?
So don't get into your head that women are capable of thinking of one thing and one thing only while men have the ability to think beyond sex.:rolleyes:
When did I say or imply that is the case?
So now you are changing the discussion to the reasons men and women in general date when we were discussing why older men date younger women and why older women date younger men?
XDEM
October 3rd, 2009, 11:04 pm
Maybe they want someone that is more likely to want to leave the house and go out and do things with them?
Another sexist statement by you. Are you actually trying to claim that more older men than older women just want to sit around the house and never want to go out and do things with their mate?
My father was always trying to get my mother to go out and do something with him but my mother just wanted to stay home and do nothing.
bella-day
October 3rd, 2009, 11:06 pm
Sorry to have to explain a fact of life to you but that's all just in your head, my dear. Older people think like older people and younger people think like younger people. There are just some older people who are more aware than other older people and there are younger people who are more aware than other younger people but there are very few younger people who are more aware than most older people.
Nice stroke of the wide brush. :))
You didn't explain anything that comes close to a fact of life. Are people always carbon copies of one another in your universe?:D
So...following your logic older people only date younger people for booty call purposes. After all they all think like old people right? No such thing as in individual?
Yeah, that is a simplistic view indeed. Thanks for exposing it for everyone.
Duh, really?
So now you accept that the reasons people date each other are as varied as the individuals?
Cool!
Maybe there is hope for you yet.
The broad brush is for the lazy of mind. Surely you do not want to give that impression huh?
When did I say or imply that is the case?
When you made the comment that older women date younger guys for booty call purposes and then demanded someone give you another reason.
I gave you another reason and it sent you in a tizzy.
Memory isn't failing you is it?;)
So now you are changing the discussion to the reasons men and women in general date when we were discussing why older men date younger women and why older women date younger men?
No, I'm debating your silly assumption that older women date younger men for sexual purposes only.
It is in keeping with the question posed by the OP.
Please try keeping up in the future.:D
Gabby
October 3rd, 2009, 11:38 pm
What's your plan if you die before him?
We’ve talked about this and joked about it before…. What we will each do when the other dies before us. My hope for him, as I’ve told him, is that he finds someone who loves him and who he can love. I hope he lives as long and healthy as his grandfather who lived to 101.
I am not talking about why most men in general may date younger women. I am talking about why most older men who don't have children date younger women. As an older man I am not going to have some woman tell me she knows more about why all older men date younger women then I do. The older men who do date younger women for "companionship and sex" know they can hire any prostitute for that. Your claim that older men date younger woman just because they a hot babe to make them forget they're getting old is a sexist remark. Older men are not as shallow as you think they are.
That’s truelly funny coming from someone who has made some very sexist and rather rude remarks about women, especially older women in this thread. I said what I said because it’s what a lot of men I know who dated younger women have said. They say it about themselves… that it was a phase they were going through and that now they realize why they did it.
Why do you think men call those types of young women "gold diggers"? Older men are not as stupid as you women think we are. .
Again here’s your anger. Nowhere did I say that older men are stupid. Of course men who are attracted to ‘gold diggers’ know what is going on. They don’t care that the women are gold diggers as long as they get what they want from these shallow women.
No, that's not a sexist statement. I've already explained why older men who want children date younger women besides for a booty call. There is absolutely no reason for older women to date younger men except as a booty call.
You are so wrong.. there are many reasons for a woman to date a younger man. It’s called love and companionship. If two people fall in love, despite the age difference why not date? Should they do date just because you think they have no reason to date? I don’t think they give a dam what you think.
Men date sluts and prostitutes for the companionship and sex.
More anger and crudeness about women.
I've already explained the different reason why older men date younger women than why older women date younger men. You just seem not to want to admit it.
So now you are the ultimate authority to whom we must all bow down and listen? Get real!
Those examples have nothing to do with what I am talking about.
So What? That's their problem if they choose to marry a boy toy instead of a real man.
LOL, you do not even know the younger men some of my friends have married. They are not ‘boy toys’ they are real men. A person’s maturity can surpass their age. Just as I’ve knows a lot of supposedly ‘mature’ men and women who never grew beyond their teen years.
There are plenty of gigolos in the world. I'm sure she'll find another one.
Oh my… gigolos now? LOL your anger is most amazing.
XDEM
October 3rd, 2009, 11:44 pm
Nice stroke of the wide brush.
A smart painter uses a wide brush to cover a broad area (no pun intended).:lol:
You didn't explain anything that comes close to a fact of life.
Sure I did but I don't expect you to understand because I don't expect someone who refuses to learn how to count to be able to understand calculus.
Are people always carbon copies of one another in your universe?
What universe are you from?
So...following your logic older people only date younger people for booty call purposes. After all they all think like old people right? No such thing as in individual?
You must have missed the part where I said some older people are more aware than other older people. I guess you think younger people are more aware than older people. If you do then you live in Wonderland where up is down and black is white.
So now you accept that the reasons people date each other are as varied as the individuals?
I never said otherwise. You are the one who said I didn't. I was only talking about why older men date younger women and why older women date younger men. Why are you having such a problem understanding that? I guess you just want to play your little women are smarter than men mind games. Bring it on, babe.
The broad brush is for the lazy of mind. Surely you do not want to give that impression huh?
If you are lucky enough to get older you will become aware of when a broad brush is the appropriate brush to use.
When you made the comment that older women date younger guys for booty call purposes and then demanded someone give you another reason.
I gave you another reason and it sent you in a tizzy.
You tried to give another reason but I pointed out why it was invalid. Try again.
No, I'm debating your silly assumption that older women date younger men for sexual purposes only.
Classic woman's defense. Deny, deny, deny.
Please try keeping up in the future.
I play hardball and you're playing softball, honey. I can hit your best pitch.
Ninjacorpse
October 3rd, 2009, 11:48 pm
Another sexist statement by you. Are you actually trying to claim that more older men than older women just want to sit around the house and never want to go out and do things with their mate?
My father was always trying to get my mother to go out and do something with him but my mother just wanted to stay home and do nothing.
Just responding to this statement by you.
Don't beat around the bush (no pun intended). Tell me one other reason an older woman would date a younger man besides for a booty call.
Giving you possible reasons, it does not mean that every woman will outlive their spouse or are more active then their male counterparts but those are all possible reasons. You want to call me sexist but i never said the only reason anybody would do anything. I know you want to drag another male down with you, but your grasping for straws.
XDEM
October 4th, 2009, 12:50 am
We’ve talked about this and joked about it before…. What we will each do when the other dies before us. My hope for him, as I’ve told him, is that he finds someone who loves him and who he can love. I hope he lives as long and healthy as his grandfather who lived to 101.
Don't play dumb now. I know you are smart enough to understand why I asked that question. You were talking like it is a fact that your husband will die before you because statistically speaking women outlive men.
That’s truelly funny coming from someone who has made some very sexist and rather rude remarks about women, especially older women in this thread.
That's what you say they are. I say they are the truth but you won't admit it because you are the type of woman who will never admit when a man is correct.
I said what I said because it’s what a lot of men I know who dated younger women have said.
Gee, what a coincidence. One of the reasons I said what I said is because it's what a lot of older women who dated younger men have told me.
They say it about themselves… that it was a phase they were going through and that now they realize why they did it.
That's my point. Younger people get more aware as they get older.
Again here’s your anger.
That's what you claim it is in your feeble attempt to demean my character.
Nowhere did I say that older men are stupid.
The obvious implication of some of your statements is that men are stupid and certainly not as smart as women.
Of course men who are attracted to ‘gold diggers’ know what is going on. They don’t care that the women are gold diggers as long as they get what they want from these shallow women.
Men treat a gold digger the way she deserves to be treated which is like the prostitute she is. Are you claiming that it is wrong for men to do that and she should be treated the same way men treat ladies who have some class?
You are so wrong..
Like I'm going to trust your biased opinion. Now, that's funny.:lol:
there are many reasons for a woman to date a younger man. It’s called love and companionship.
Are you now making the absurd assertion that older women have to date younger men because older men and older women can't fall in love with each other and be each other's companion? If not then I think you must be mislabeling lust as love.
If two people fall in love, despite the age difference why not date?
I don't know what universe you are from because in my universe two people date before they fall in love with each other.
Should they do date just because you think they have no reason to date? I don’t think they give a dam what you think.
Could you rephrase your question? I don't understand what you are trying to ask me.
More anger and crudeness about women.
Another feeble attempt by you to demean my character.
So now you are the ultimate authority to whom we must all bow down and listen? Get real!
Between the two of us I'm the ultimate authority in my world. Sorry, if you can't handle that in your world.
LOL, you do not even know the younger men some of my friends have married. They are not ‘boy toys’ they are real men.
LOLer, only men can know who real men are. Women only think they know who real men are.
A person’s maturity can surpass their age. Just as I’ve knows a lot of supposedly ‘mature’ men and women who never grew beyond their teen years.
I never said all "mature" men are real men. Don't you remember that I said some older men are more aware than other older men?
Oh my… gigolos now? LOL your anger is most amazing.
I call a spade a spade and a younger man who dates an older woman just for the money is a gigolo and should be treated like the male prostitute he is. How do you equate me calling a spade a spade as me exhibiting anger?
TinCan
October 4th, 2009, 1:15 am
As an older man my answer is yes. There is absolutely nothing wrong with older men dating younger women. In fact, a lot of younger women only date men older than them because most older men are more financially secure than most younger men and can provide for any children the woman may have. Because of that, a lot of men are in their forties before they can have children and women their own age can no longer have children. Therefore, it only makes sense for those men to want to date younger women.
On the other hand, it makes absolutely no sense for older women to date younger men except as a booty call.
:)):)):))
Just curious, what is your age "older man?" Just trying to put your posts into some sort of perspective.
By the way, the only reason men date women of any age is for the potential "booty call," right? If it eventually develops into something more substantial, then she must of laid a pretty good trap. ;)
XDEM
October 4th, 2009, 1:16 am
Giving you possible reasons, it does not mean that every woman will outlive their spouse or are more active then their male counterparts but those are all possible reasons. You want to call me sexist but i never said the only reason anybody would do anything. I know you want to drag another male down with you, but your grasping for straws.
If you are a man I hate to break the bad news to you but women have made it very clear that no man can speak for how a woman thinks or feels. I respect their wishes so I want the women reading this thread to give me a valid reason why an older woman would date a younger man besides for a booty call. So far they haven't but I'm a very patient man.
XDEM
October 4th, 2009, 1:29 am
Just curious, what is your age "older man?" Just trying to put your posts into some sort of perspective.
I may have mentioned it somewhere in my other posts but let's just say I've been around the block so many times that I know what's going on.
By the way, the only reason men date women of any age is for the potential "booty call," right? If it eventually develops into something more substantial, then she must of laid a pretty good trap. ;)
I have always understood the term "booty call" to refer to a relationship where only sex is expected. So, my answer to your question is "no", sex is not the only reason some men date women of any age.
gdoane
October 4th, 2009, 1:38 am
If you are a man I hate to break the bad news to you but women have made it very clear that no man can speak for how a woman thinks or feels. I respect their wishes so I want the women reading this thread to give me a valid reason why an older woman would date a younger man besides for a booty call. So far they haven't but I'm a very patient man.
You don't drive a pickup truck, do you?
There are a lot of reasons older women would like younger men that have nothing whatsoever to do with sex. Maybe you've heard of the "Honey-Do" list.
Moving furniture, home repairs, lawn and garden, there's a lot of stuff that older women want that old guys quite frankly aren't much good for. Nobody is going to ask Gramps to help move out of their apartment.
There's a lot to be said for a strong back and a pickup truck.
khigh
October 4th, 2009, 1:47 am
If you are a man I hate to break the bad news to you but women have made it very clear that no man can speak for how a woman thinks or feels. I respect their wishes so I want the women reading this thread to give me a valid reason why an older woman would date a younger man besides for a booty call. So far they haven't but I'm a very patient man.
I guess it doesn't really count because my husband is only 1 year younger than me, but it could be for love.
The guys I dated that were a lot older than me were not all booty calls. Two of them were, but the others were not. Since I turned 18, I have dated 5 men at least 15 years my senior, the oldest being 42 when I was 19 (booty call Marine passing through town and a bad decision).
If I had not shipped off to boot camp, I would probably have ended up marrying a guy 18 years older than me. He was probably a diamond in the rough, considering he was a 36 year old Marine that had never been married. But, we ended up apart because of the Marine Corps. It would not have been right for a private to date a gunny.
XDEM
October 4th, 2009, 1:51 am
You don't drive a pickup truck, do you?
Why? Are you prejudiced against people who drive a pickup truck?
There are a lot of reasons older women would like younger men that have nothing whatsoever to do with sex. Maybe you've heard of the "Honey-Do" list.
Moving furniture, home repairs, lawn and garden, there's a lot of stuff that older women want that old guys quite frankly aren't much good for. Nobody is going to ask Gramps to help move out of their apartment.
There's a lot to be said for a strong back and a pickup truck.
Are you saying that older women want younger men to be their slaves rather than just paying money to hire a man to do that kind of work for them?
XDEM
October 4th, 2009, 1:58 am
I guess it doesn't really count because my husband is only 1 year younger than me, but it could be for love.
The guys I dated that were a lot older than me were not all booty calls. Two of them were, but the others were not. Since I turned 18, I have dated 5 men at least 15 years my senior, the oldest being 42 when I was 19 (booty call Marine passing through town and a bad decision).
If I had not shipped off to boot camp, I would probably have ended up marrying a guy 18 years older than me. He was probably a diamond in the rough, considering he was a 36 year old Marine that had never been married. But, we ended up apart because of the Marine Corps. It would not have been right for a private to date a gunny.
Thanks for replying but I am asking women to explain why older women (40s and above) would date a younger man (20s) besides for a booty call. Good luck to you.
gdoane
October 4th, 2009, 2:37 am
Why? Are you prejudiced against people who drive a pickup truck?
No, actually I won't own anything but a pickup truck because backseat drivers suck.
Are you saying that older women want younger men to be their slaves rather than just paying money to hire a man to do that kind of work for them?
Money is far from the only form of compensation.
Ninjacorpse
October 4th, 2009, 2:46 am
If you are a man I hate to break the bad news to you but women have made it very clear that no man can speak for how a woman thinks or feels. I respect their wishes so I want the women reading this thread to give me a valid reason why an older woman would date a younger man besides for a booty call. So far they haven't but I'm a very patient man.
Well I am man enough to know that their is no universal reason for anything women might do. I do not think any answer will please you, you are looking to put them all into the same mold.
MarkyS
October 4th, 2009, 3:24 am
I'm 54 and I would date anyone younger than I am, and possibly older than I am, though health and fitness problems that most women my age have keep me going for younger women.
The operative word here is DATE. I have no intention of marrying, so I'm not concerned too much with the long term. They had better be smart and on their toes, however, because the younger they are, the less I can carry on a conversation with them, and I have little tolerance for ignorance and none for stupidity. Also, younger women are usually liberal through and through, which causes its own set of problems. After a few years of tax-paying, they often wise up.
I will NOT try to run in their circles; be like them; do what they do. Been there, done that. If they're not interested in finding out what I have to teach them, show them and give them, they are welcome to ghost. It usually works out for a while. Most young women are trying to learn and grow. There are a surprising number who look to older men for growth. Eventually, it becomes untenable because most are eventually looking for the long-term, lifetime guy, and we both know that going in, so it typically ends amicably.
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sgdp
October 4th, 2009, 4:01 am
50s? No.
I cut off about 30. And I pretty much don't even consider anyone under 25.
Gabby
October 4th, 2009, 4:11 am
Don't play dumb now. I know you are smart enough to understand why I asked that question. You were talking like it is a fact that your husband will die before you because statistically speaking women outlive men.
You are presumption here is wrong. I was simply being humorous. Here’s what I said. Where do I say anything about my husband dying before me.
I am currently married to a man who is 6 years younger than I. My plan is that my next husband will be at least 12 years younger.
Note that I never even suggest that he would have to be dead.. who knows maybe I’ll replace him with a younger model someday… and yes maybe he’ll replace me with a younger model… one never knows the future.
It was a joke… my husband and I laughed about it… it was right after he told me that the main reason that men go out with younger women is because they make the man feel younger. As a man, I assume he has a clue.
That's what you say they are. I say they are the truth but you won't admit it because you are the type of woman who will never admit when a man is correct.
LOL… So what you say is 100% accurate at all times? And no one else has a valid opinion? And if a woman does not agree with you it’s because she ‘will never admit when a man is correct’?
The obvious implication of some of your statements is that men are stupid and certainly not as smart as women.
I never said nor implied this. It’s that chip on your shoulder doing your thinking for you.
Men treat a gold digger the way she deserves to be treated which is like the prostitute she is. Are you claiming that it is wrong for men to do that and she should be treated the same way men treat ladies who have some class?
No, agree that a gold digger is a classless woman who will not be treated well. Of course a true gentleman would not have anything to do with a gold digger. A true gentleman would not take belittle himself by treating even a gold digger poorly.
[QUOTE=XDEM;62016911]Like I'm going to trust your biased opinion. Now, that's funny.:lol:
More of your wonderful, cheerful personality showing.
Are you now making the absurd assertion that older women have to date younger men because older men and older women can't fall in love with each other and be each other's companion? If not then I think you must be mislabeling lust as love.
No, I think you are working overtime to twist everything I say. My point is that often we cannot help who we fall in love with. Sometimes an older woman and a younger man will meet and they will fall in love. They will find that they have a lot in common and are a good match. I see nothing wrong with this when it happens. Any time a person can find true love it’s worth pursuing as long as neither is cheating on a spouse while doing it.
Also remember that as women get older, the number of men available shrink. For one thing many of the older men are dating and marrying younger women. So if there are fewer older men available.. it only makes sense that the chance increases for older women to date and/or marry younger men.
Could you rephrase your question? I don't understand what you are trying to ask me.
Should older women and younger men just not date & marry because you think they have no reason to do this? I don’t think they give a dam what you think.
Between the two of us I'm the ultimate authority in my world. Sorry, if you can't handle that in your world.
You may be the ultimate authority in your world. But here on the forum, and in the rest of the world, you have no more authority than anyone else.
LOLer, only men can know who real men are. Women only think they know who real men are.
LOL… yea right.
I call a spade a spade and a younger man who dates an older woman just for the money is a gigolo and should be treated like the male prostitute he is.
A gigolo by definition is a male prostitute. But we are not taking about male prostitutes in this thread. We are talking about younger men dating older women. These are not situations in which the older woman is paying the younger man.
How do you equate me calling a spade a spade as me exhibiting anger?
It’s not exactly what you are saying but the manner in which you are saying it. .. I sense some real anger in your tone. Look at you accusing me of being “the type of woman who will never admit when a man is correct”. That’s an angry statement. Especially since you don’t know me.
Gabby
October 4th, 2009, 4:17 am
XDEM,
Take a look at what MaryS wrote:
I'm 54 and I would date anyone younger than I am, and possibly older than I am, though health and fitness problems that most women my age have keep me going for younger women.
XDEM… don’t you think that maybe a 54 old women might feel the same way about men her age and older? Maybe she does not want to put up with the health, fitness and personal problems that most older men have. Maybe she’s a happy, healthy and very fit woman of 54 and she wants a younger man who can keep up with her?
Read his post above and think about a woman who has the same mind set he has.
Do you think its ok for MarkyS to have the attitude he has?
Do you think it is ok for a woman to have the same attitude?
bella-day
October 4th, 2009, 8:41 am
A smart painter uses a wide brush to cover a broad area (no pun intended).:lol:
Sure I did but I don't expect you to understand because I don't expect someone who refuses to learn how to count to be able to understand calculus.
Calculus? You have got to be kidding. You have said nothing deep here. You aren't hard to understand at all. People who make broad ASSumptions typically are easy to understand.
I just happen to disagree with you...I know...something a woman shouldn't ever do.
What universe are you from?
A universe of individuals. Don't worry, you don't have to visit. Your cookie cutter universe is most likely an easier one within which to live.
Mine maybe a bit complex for you.
You must have missed the part where I said some older people are more aware than other older people. I guess you think younger people are more aware than older people. If you do then you live in Wonderland where up is down and black is white.
I never said otherwise. You are the one who said I didn't. I was only talking about why older men date younger women and why older women date younger men. Why are you having such a problem understanding that? I guess you just want to play your little women are smarter than men mind games. Bring it on, babe.
I'm not your babe.
No one is playing mind games here. I'll try using shorter words. Maybe you will understand better.:))
If you are lucky enough to get older you will become aware of when a broad brush is the appropriate brush to use.
See, here is your problem. You ASSume way too much.
I'm 53. The broad brush is the tool of the ignorant and mentally lazy. If you feel it is appropriate for your use...what can I say?
You could be right.:D
You tried to give another reason but I pointed out why it was invalid. Try again.
Sure I did. Could it be you didn't bother moving your lips while reading my post and somehow managed to get lost in it? Or could it be that it embarrassed you for the little woman to make a point that you failed to see simply because you were so busy with the really broad brush statements?
Here, a simplier version of my previous statement.
Have you ever stopped to consider a woman may date a younger man simply because she enjoys his company?
So there you go. A simple reason that you might be able to wrap your mind around.
Classic woman's defense. Deny, deny, deny.
Classic sexist remark. Not that I would expect anything else...
I play hardball and you're playing softball, honey. I can hit your best pitch.
No babe, I'm discussing and you are having an online hissy fit.
That isn't hardball. It's just a temper tantrum in text. Why don't you take a deep breath, chill out just a bit, see if you can bring the maturity level up and put the sexism in a can?
smyrna
October 4th, 2009, 9:04 am
I am 50+ and have had two girls...there is an imaginary curtain that slowly closes on the stage of fantasy relationships as they get older. There's just something creepy about dating someone younger than your daughter...maybe it's just me.:mrgreen:
blackcatrun
October 4th, 2009, 9:25 am
It would depend heavly if the younger woman was paying attention.
I have no desire to have any more children.
I have no desire to take on years of strained demands as she is building her life after I have built mine long ago.
Dating woman my age is not easy as I might have thought thou.
Some of the things I have found that would make for a thought to date a younger woman. {Not all but a good portion.}
Older woman can often become thier jobs. It becomes harder for communications outside that realm. Married at least once they equate the date to thier past X half. It becomes harder when adding teen age children as they find dating almost like an intrushion. I am reminded they lived comfortably for years without male assistance. I walk away often wantign to forget the experiance.
I am thinking of the pros and cons on both sides..experiance VS inexperiance.
A mutal exchange of time and considerable effort to exchange needs and wants with freedom to move on does sound some what like a win win.
However I dont see it happening at all dispite the approach by several very attractive younger woman inquiring if I am avalible.
I am not counting the possibles out any longer.
blackcatrun
October 4th, 2009, 9:27 am
I am 50+ and have had two girls...there is an imaginary curtain that slowly closes on the stage of fantasy relationships as they get older. There's just something creepy about dating someone younger than your daughter...maybe it's just me.:mrgreen:
Nope it aint you. Unless 22 or higher forget it.
EnchantedFrog
October 4th, 2009, 10:03 am
I married when I was 32 and my wife was 22.
We just marked our 27th anniversary.
Our son is 25. His mid-twenties girlfriends are nice to look at, desirable, with
great looks and bodies, but old guys have no business even considering women
that much younger as having any potential for a relationship.
smyrna
October 4th, 2009, 10:03 am
Last year at 15 my grand son had to be taken out of one school & enrolled in another. Standing in line, my 32 year old daughter was mistaken for "who's the next student in HS".
My son in law is 16, every where he goes he's flocked around by the girls/women. Every time my daughter takes him to her salon for a hair cut, he's the object of the conversation. Guess which ones he likes? The ones in their 40's, just like his grand dad did at 16.
I guess this makes your daughter a...cougar? http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:V72pk90ZTiMJ::www.alaska-in-pictures.com/data/media/1/growling-mountain-lion_7131.jpg&h=78&w=61&usg=__-gBQxHYKgG7GbNNDupeyD9o1px8= (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.alaska-in-pictures.com/data/media/1/growling-mountain-lion_7131.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.alaska-in-pictures.com/growling-mountain-lion-picture-7131-pictures.htm&h=468&w=371&sz=46&tbnid=V72pk90ZTiNsFM:&tbnh=128&tbnw=101&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpicture%2Bcougar%2Bgrowling&hl=en&usg=__INadiBMJwSWpmWgW37hyX_TIJrA=&ei=IJ3ISrC0MoHdlAeI9JSSAw&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=4&ct=image)
smyrna
October 4th, 2009, 1:26 pm
It makes my daughter a beautiful woman who's 32 & looks like a teen. The Cougar remark has nothing to do with my daughter! Point being, she looks like his sister. A "Cougar" is an older woman who likes very young men. Her husband is 42!
You said your son in law was 16...
mgifford
October 4th, 2009, 1:35 pm
You said your son in law was 16...
Thank you for giving me the courtesy of showing me that I made a mistake in my post so I could change it. Sarcasm!
smyrna
October 4th, 2009, 1:38 pm
Thank you for giving me the courtesy of making a mistake in my post known so I could change it. Sarcasm!
Go back to bed...you got up on the wrong side today.:mrgreen:
mgifford
October 4th, 2009, 1:40 pm
Go back to bed...you got up on the wrong side today.:mrgreen:
Tell me before I put you on ignore, did you not see that I meant my grand son?
smyrna
October 4th, 2009, 1:57 pm
Tell me before I put you on ignore, did you not see that I meant my grand son?
Yes, I knew that you meant your grandson. Using your actual words generated my post from a humurous point of view that you did not find humurous. I thought Mr Green would explain my position. Obviously if now I am being threatened to be ignored...it didn't go over the way it was intended, so please accept my sincere apology.
Mick R.
October 4th, 2009, 3:06 pm
I am 50+ and have had two girls...there is an imaginary curtain that slowly closes on the stage of fantasy relationships as they get older. There's just something creepy about dating someone younger than your daughter...maybe it's just me.:mrgreen:
Nope, not just you - I totally agree with you. I'm 58, have three daughters and cannot imagine dating someone younger than my children. Not to mention the fact that a 50-60 yr. old(or older) man running around with a 20 yr. old just looks creepy. (example : Hugh Hefner)
Ninjacorpse
October 4th, 2009, 6:36 pm
50s? No.
I cut off about 30. And I pretty much don't even consider anyone under 25.
So between 25 and 30? :think:
gdoane
October 4th, 2009, 7:04 pm
I think I can pretty much tell where somebody is from and how old they are by a simple conversation.
An old screenplay/ movie called "My Fair Lady" (Pygmalion) made a point of the fact that you can tell a lot about a person by the way they talk.
I've been on failed dates, heck I even dated a girl who admitted that she voted for Jimmy Carter in 1980 and I had to call it over. I ain't dating nobody who voted for Jimmy Carter. They're just too pinko to have conversations with, those voters.
XDEM
October 4th, 2009, 7:29 pm
Money is far from the only form of compensation.
If an older woman is paying a younger man with sex to do manual labor than she is nothing but a prostitute.
XDEM
October 4th, 2009, 8:24 pm
Calculus? You have got to be kidding. You have said nothing deep here. You aren't hard to understand at all.
All I've been saying is a valid reason why some older men have a relationship with a younger woman is to have a child. You seem to be having a hard time understanding that and agreeing with me that it is a valid reason. After all, some men don't want to have a child until they know that they can afford one. For some men that isn't until they are in their 40s.
I just happen to disagree with you...I know...something a woman shouldn't ever do.
The problem with women who think like you is that when an older man expresses a valid point of view the first thing those women do is to try to invalidate that point of view rather than first try to evaluate that point of view.
A universe of individuals. Don't worry, you don't have to visit. Your cookie cutter universe is most likely an easier one within which to live.
Mine maybe a bit complex for you.
Yeah, my universe is an easier place to live than yours because people in my universe evaluate my point of view before they try to invalidate it.
I'm not your babe.
Really? And here I thought we were getting along so well.
No one is playing mind games here. I'll try using shorter words. Maybe you will understand better.
Deny, deny, deny. Invalidate, invalidate, invalidate.
See, here is your problem. You ASSume way too much.
I'm 53.
I'm older than 53.
The broad brush is the tool of the ignorant and mentally lazy. If you feel it is appropriate for your use...what can I say?
An artist possesses a broad brush in order to use it when it is the appropriate time to use it.
Sure I did. Could it be you didn't bother moving your lips while reading my post and somehow managed to get lost in it? Or could it be that it embarrassed you for the little woman to make a point that you failed to see simply because you were so busy with the really broad brush statements?
No, it couldn't be that. It's just an example of you first trying to invalidate my point of view rather than evaluating it first.
Have you ever stopped to consider a woman may date a younger man simply because she enjoys his company?
Of course I have. I'm sure many older women enjoy the company of a younger man half her age --- in bed.
Have you ever considered why a younger man would be with an older woman twice his age?
Classic sexist remark. Not that I would expect anything else...
Classic misandrist remark. Not that I would expect anything else.
No babe, I'm discussing and you are having an online hissy fit.
You are just trying to demean my character and invalidate my point rather than evaluate my point of view first.
That isn't hardball. It's just a temper tantrum in text. Why don't you take a deep breath, chill out just a bit, see if you can bring the maturity level up and put the sexism in a can?
Is that your best pitch? Pull up you pants because your misandry is showing.
XDEM
October 4th, 2009, 8:41 pm
XDEM,
Take a look at what MaryS wrote:
Originally Posted by MarkyS http://forums.hannity.com/firestorm/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?p=62020341#post62020341)
I'm 54 and I would date anyone younger than I am, and possibly older than I am, though health and fitness problems that most women my age have keep me going for younger women.
XDEM… don’t you think that maybe a 54 old women might feel the same way about men her age and older? Maybe she does not want to put up with the health, fitness and personal problems that most older men have. Maybe she’s a happy, healthy and very fit woman of 54 and she wants a younger man who can keep up with her?
Read his post above and think about a woman who has the same mind set he has.
Do you think its ok for MarkyS to have the attitude he has?
Do you think it is ok for a woman to have the same attitude?
Maybe after an older woman who has spent thousands of dollars on cosmetic surgery to make herself look younger wants to be with a younger man so that she can pretend that she isn't getting older.
bella-day
October 4th, 2009, 8:51 pm
All I've been saying is a valid reason why some older men have a relationship with a younger woman is to have a child. You seem to be having a hard time understanding that and agreeing with me that it is a valid reason. After all, some men don't want to have a child until they know that they can afford one. For some men that isn't until they are in their 40s.
The problem with women who think like you is that when an older man expresses a valid point of view the first thing those women do is to try to invalidate that point of view rather than first try to evaluate that point of view.
Yeah, my universe is an easier place to live than yours because people in my universe evaluate my point of view before they try to invalidate it.
Really? And here I thought we were getting along so well.
Deny, deny, deny. Invalidate, invalidate, invalidate.
I'm older than 53.
An artist possesses a broad brush in order to use it when it is the appropriate time to use it.
No, it couldn't be that. It's just an example of you first trying to invalidate my point of view rather than evaluating it first.
Of course I have. I'm sure many older women enjoy the company of a younger man half her age --- in bed.
Have you ever considered why a younger man would be with an older woman twice his age?
Classic misandrist remark. Not that I would expect anything else.
You are just trying to demean my character and invalidate my point rather than evaluate my point of view first.
Is that your best pitch? Pull up you pants because your misandry is showing.
Nope, I like men. That's being very honest...not all males are men no matter what their age. Some are just overgrown and horribly aged boys.
You have added nothing to the conversation because you really have nothing to say. Nobody has to demean you or invalidate your opinion...you do such a great job of it all by yourself.
It's really sad that you have such a low opinion of women. I feel sorry for you, I honestly do. It has to be outward symptoms of a very lonely existence.
Notice I didn't break up your quotes to comment on them. You have done nothing but toss insults. I'll leave you to your misery; maybe it can keep you company.
You give the distinct impression you could use it...
traditional_woman
October 4th, 2009, 8:56 pm
I think I can pretty much tell where somebody is from and how old they are by a simple conversation.
An old screenplay/ movie called "My Fair Lady" (Pygmalion) made a point of the fact that you can tell a lot about a person by the way they talk.
I've been on failed dates, heck I even dated a girl who admitted that she voted for Jimmy Carter in 1980 and I had to call it over. I ain't dating nobody who voted for Jimmy Carter. They're just too pinko to have conversations with, those voters.
I have met older ppl (say 50+) who if you couldn't see their face would think they were in their early 30's. It's not always a bad thing,sometimes they come across as younger b/c they have a young spirit, not a young mind. Same is true for younger ppl, they have an old soul. These are exceptions though. I see nothing wrong with the two, b/c they aren't ''acting'', they are just being themselves.
Antrel
October 4th, 2009, 9:22 pm
I'm not a casual dater, so I wouldn't date a woman who's 50 simply because 30 years down the road when I'm 53, she'll be 80, and common health issues would likely come up. I can also admit to being fairly shallow and picky about aesthetics - physical attraction is significant for me and it's difficult to find women that age I'm attracted to. I, however, do not have a problem dating older women, who seem more of a balance of mellow and spontaneous activity, and who tend to be a lot more physically intimate. It's all generalizations though, the only real age group I discriminate against are girls right out of high school. A lot changes someone in those one or two years afterwards that I tend to allow them that.
All that said, I love talking to the mothers of my friends who are all in their 50's. I could sit and talk with them for hours. There's a certain sense of humor one obtains at that point that's very appealing to me.
Antrel
October 4th, 2009, 9:33 pm
As an older man my answer is yes. There is absolutely nothing wrong with older men dating younger women. In fact, a lot of younger women only date men older than them because most older men are more financially secure than most younger men and can provide for any children the woman may have. Because of that, a lot of men are in their forties before they can have children and women their own age can no longer have children. Therefore, it only makes sense for those men to want to date younger women.
On the other hand, it makes absolutely no sense for older women to date younger men except as a booty call.That's nonsense. You can filter through women in their late 30's and 40's who aren't menopausal. By your own logic, there'd be no reason for a man to date a woman in her 20's.
I can see a number or reason for older women to desire younger guys. In fact, I'd be surprised to find an older woman who didn't find a young, mature, educated, career established man as attractive, even if he's 23 or 24. There's a youthful spirit that I'm sure is very appealing, not to mention the physical attraction which doesn't need to equate to a "booty call."
XDEM
October 4th, 2009, 9:44 pm
You are presumption here is wrong. I was simply being humorous. Here’s what I said. Where do I say anything about my husband dying before me.
Originally Posted by Gabby
I am currently married to a man who is 6 years younger than I. My plan is that my next husband will be at least 12 years younger.
Note that I never even suggest that he would have to be dead..
Are you now saying that you are considering divorcing your present husband and marrying a dead man?
It was a joke… my husband and I laughed about it… it was right after he told me that the main reason that men go out with younger women is because they make the man feel younger. As a man, I assume he has a clue.
That's a mighty broad brush your husband is painting with.
LOL… So what you say is 100% accurate at all times?
In this case, the point I made about why some older men marry younger women is 100% accurate.
And no one else has a valid opinion?
If their opinion is that no older men marry younger women because they want a baby then their opinion is invalid.
And if a woman does not agree with you it’s because she ‘will never admit when a man is correct’?
Not all women. Just your type of women.
Men treat a gold digger the way she deserves to be treated which is like the prostitute she is. Are you claiming that it is wrong for men to do that and she should be treated the same way men treat ladies who have some class?
No, agree that a gold digger is a classless woman who will not be treated well. Of course a true gentleman would not have anything to do with a gold digger. A true gentleman would not take belittle himself by treating even a gold digger poorly.
I agree with you that a true gentleman would never have anything to do with a gold digger but there is nothing wrong with a gentlemen or those men who will have a relationship with a gold digger treating her like the prostitute that she is. All men whether or not they are gentlemen should treat all gold diggers poorly. It doesn't belittle a gentleman to treat a gold digger poorly.
No, I think you are working overtime to twist everything I say. My point is that often we cannot help who we fall in love with. Sometimes an older woman and a younger man will meet and they will fall in love.
Don't you mean fall in lust?
They will find that they have a lot in common and are a good match. I see nothing wrong with this when it happens.
What could a young man possibly have in common with an older women except both of them wanting a booty call?
Any time a person can find true love it’s worth pursuing as long as neither is cheating on a spouse while doing it.
As Tina Turner would say, "What's love got to do with it?"
Also remember that as women get older, the number of men available shrink.
That's why many older women spend thousands of dollars on cosmetic surgery.
For one thing many of the older men are dating and marrying younger women.
So if there are fewer older men available.. it only makes sense that the chance increases for older women to date and/or marry younger men.
Is that why older women spend so much money on cosmetic surgery rather than use that money to pay for their own health care insurance?
Should older women and younger men just not date & marry because you think they have no reason to do this? I don’t think they give a dam what you think.
What reason could a young man in his 20s have to marry a woman who is as old as his mother?
You may be the ultimate authority in your world. But here on the forum, and in the rest of the world, you have no more authority than anyone else.
Regardless of that fact, between you and me, I'm the ultimate authority in my world.
A gigolo by definition is a male prostitute. But we are not taking about male prostitutes in this thread. We are talking about younger men dating older women. These are not situations in which the older woman is paying the younger man.
Young men who date women twice their age or older only do it for free sex and financial benefits which in my world qualifies those young men to be called gigolos.
It’s not exactly what you are saying but the manner in which you are saying it. ..
That's the excuse always given when someone doesn't like the message and wants to shoot the messenger.
I sense some real anger in your tone. Look at you accusing me of being “the type of woman who will never admit when a man is correct”. That’s an angry statement. Especially since you don’t know me.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
XDEM
October 4th, 2009, 10:22 pm
That's nonsense. You can filter through women in their late 30's and 40's who aren't menopausal. By your own logic, there'd be no reason for a man to date a woman in her 20's.
Most men in their 40s who want to have their first biological child can certainly filter through women in their late 30s and 40s who are still capable of having children. However, most of those women have already had children and that creates a different set of family dynamics which an older man has to cope with whereas many women in their 20s haven't had any children.
I can see a number or reason for older women to desire younger guys. In fact, I'd be surprised to find an older woman who didn't find a young, mature, educated, career established man as attractive, even if he's 23 or 24.
All older heterosexual women find young, mature, educated, career established men who are physically attractive and available to be attractive. However, that doesn't mean older women should have a sexual relationship with them just for the older woman's sexual gratification.
There's a youthful spirit that I'm sure is very appealing, not to mention the physical attraction which doesn't need to equate to a "booty call."
If the reason an older woman chooses to be with a younger man is because she is physically attracted to him and wants to have sex with him then it is nothing more than just a "booty call".
After all, if a younger man has all of the attributes you mentioned but is not physically attractive it is more likely an older woman who wants to be with a younger man will choose to be with a younger man who has none of those attributes but is physically attractive.
XDEM
October 4th, 2009, 10:29 pm
I'm not a casual dater, so I wouldn't date a woman who's 50 simply because 30 years down the road when I'm 53, she'll be 80, and common health issues would likely come up. I can also admit to being fairly shallow and picky about aesthetics - physical attraction is significant for me and it's difficult to find women that age I'm attracted to. I, however, do not have a problem dating older women, who seem more of a balance of mellow and spontaneous activity, and who tend to be a lot more physically intimate. It's all generalizations though, the only real age group I discriminate against are girls right out of high school. A lot changes someone in those one or two years afterwards that I tend to allow them that.
All that said, I love talking to the mothers of my friends who are all in their 50's. I could sit and talk with them for hours. There's a certain sense of humor one obtains at that point that's very appealing to me.
Are you saying that as a young man you would date an older woman because it is easier to get into their pants than a younger woman's pants?
XDEM
October 4th, 2009, 10:52 pm
Nope, I like men. That's being very honest...
That doesn't matter. I like women but I get accused of being a misogynist.
not all males are men no matter what their age. Some are just overgrown and horribly aged boys.
Do you call African American adult males "boys" when you think they are not acting their age?
Which way is it? Do you like older men who are young in spirit or do you dislike older men who act like boys?
You have added nothing to the conversation because you really have nothing to say.
:lol::lol::lol: It seems to me this conversation would have ended a long time ago if I hadn't said what I said.
Nobody has to demean you or invalidate your opinion...you do such a great job of it all by yourself.
Is that your best pitch?
It's really sad that you have such a low opinion of women. I feel sorry for you, I honestly do. It has to be outward symptoms of a very lonely existence.
On the contrary, I have a very high opinion of most women. I just have a low opinion of women like you who try to invalidate a man's point of view before they honestly evaluate it.
Notice I didn't break up your quotes to comment on them. You have done nothing but toss insults. I'll leave you to your misery; maybe it can keep you company.
Is that your best pitch?
You give the distinct impression you could use it...
Is that your best pitch?
JenyEliza
October 4th, 2009, 10:58 pm
Game. Set. Match. Goes to Bella. :clap:
coyote1880
October 4th, 2009, 11:00 pm
Game. Set. Match. Goes to Bella. :clap:
Is that your best pitch?
:)
I am hoping you are doing better Jeny.
XDEM
October 4th, 2009, 11:05 pm
Well I am man enough to know that their is no universal reason for anything women might do. I do not think any answer will please you, you are looking to put them all into the same mold.
No I'm not. I'm just trying to have a conversation with women who won't try to invalidate my point of view before they honestly evaluate it.
FidelisAdMortem
October 4th, 2009, 11:06 pm
Im in my 20's. The oldest I ever "got" with was 45. I got the mojo, baby!
XDEM
October 4th, 2009, 11:09 pm
Game. Set. Match. Goes to Bella. :clap:
Hi JenyEliza. How's life been treating you?:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
XDEM
October 4th, 2009, 11:12 pm
Im in my 20's. The oldest I ever "got" with was 45. I got the mojo, baby!
Way to go, Fidelis!:dance:
JenyEliza
October 4th, 2009, 11:25 pm
Hi JenyEliza. How's life been treating you?:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Hi XDem. Life's been tossing lemons my way. Trying hard to make lemonade. ;) :D
How 'bout you?
blackcatrun
October 5th, 2009, 7:19 am
Hi XDem. Life's been tossing lemons my way. Trying hard to make lemonade. ;) :D
How 'bout you?
Read about the hard time in recent months.
Takes a tough mind to get through things like that.
Stay frosty I'm rooting for you.
JenyEliza
October 5th, 2009, 10:25 am
Read about the hard time in recent months.
Takes a tough mind to get through things like that.
Stay frosty I'm rooting for you.
Frosty as a mug of draft beer!! Its gonna hurt like hell to leave our house, but Im looking at the positives. :)
And.....our President is paying me to finish my degree, so woo-hoo! At 47 I get to be a co-ed again! :dance:
God never closes a door without opening a window or two. I believe this.
Thanks for being on my side! I need all the support I can get!
Vaard
October 5th, 2009, 12:22 pm
i am only 40, but will comment......
while i appreciate a good looking 20 year old female, i have no real attraction for them since i know that more than likely, i have absolutely nothing in common with them......
see "hey nineteen" by steely dan for futher reference......
Apatriot
October 5th, 2009, 4:11 pm
http://hot.aol.com/2009/09/16/sean-penns-new-flame
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag/2008/06/hulk-hogans-wif.html
Sorry, I know some of you responded already, but my images were too big:(
Why ''yes'', why ''no''?
I'm in my 40s, married to a wife in her 30s. If something were to happen to her, I can't imagine dating anyone younger than she is.
Long Island Bob
October 5th, 2009, 5:37 pm
date a woman in her 20's?
sure, if she'd have me.
Dragon1963
October 5th, 2009, 10:24 pm
date a woman in her 20's?
sure, if she'd have me.
If your really rich a 20 something wouldn't hesitate to have you. ;)
FidelisAdMortem
October 5th, 2009, 10:34 pm
i am only 40, but will comment......
while i appreciate a good looking 20 year old female, i have no real attraction for them since i know that more than likely, i have absolutely nothing in common with them......
see "hey nineteen" by steely dan for futher reference......
I thought you were in your early 20's by your posting style, I would of never guessed you were in your 40's.
spearmaster
October 5th, 2009, 10:42 pm
...did anyone think how creepy it was that the boy toy kind of looks like Hulk Hogan
Maybe she's still a Hulk-A-Maniac. :)
angelicmadrigal
October 5th, 2009, 11:50 pm
Personally I don't date anyone more than 5 years younger or over 10 years older.
gdoane
October 5th, 2009, 11:54 pm
Personally I don't date anyone more than 5 years younger or over 10 years older.
I go by interests. If the girl doesn't own a kayak, we're not going to have a lot in common.
BillyBobUSA
October 6th, 2009, 12:05 am
If the other person is half your age or less, how can you possibly share your life with them in any meaningful way?
And the sex wouldnt be a mutually respectful sharing of love and good sensations that resonate from a deep relationship, how could it be?
What a waste of time in pursuit of something truly unatainable in a genuine way.
sgdp
October 6th, 2009, 12:46 am
So between 25 and 30? :think:
Um. Yes. This would be why I'm single. Picky. :neutral:
Ninjacorpse
October 6th, 2009, 1:34 am
Um. Yes. This would be why I'm single. Picky. :neutral:
How picky? :eh:
:razz:
SoonerQueen
October 6th, 2009, 3:57 am
I'm 58 and I have to admit I'd be flattered if a 20ish man was interested in me, but I can't see what we would have in common. My kids are in their 20's and we have fun and joke around, but our interests are so different. I like to be around people I have things in common with and share the same interests like in movies, music,religion, politics,tv shows, etc. I'd really rather be around people my own age for marriage and friendships etc.
blackcatrun
October 6th, 2009, 7:21 am
I go by interests. If the girl doesn't own a kayak, we're not going to have a lot in common.
Good joke up this way.
Wanted a good woman with boat & moter. P.S. send picture of boat with moter.
You would love it here then. Kayaks are every place up here. Boating at times is a nightmare because people in them wont move out of the channel. Seen a few large boats stopped dead as the kayakers get in thier way on perpouse. I wasnt shocked to hear a unity cry from one group "you people should be outlawed from this river".
So you may not find the company very perseptive to American values.. if you can put up with the snotty Mass liberals with out pulling out a gun and sending them to utopia it's worth the effort.
angelicmadrigal
October 6th, 2009, 9:55 am
I go by interests. If the girl doesn't own a kayak, we're not going to have a lot in common.
Well I'm a gamer, and I pretty much REQUIRE a guy that games. As in a guy that will go to conventions with me, and doesn't mind hearing about my latests game group related drama. Of course being that I am a female gamer who does conventions finding a guy of the appropriate age is NOT a difficult task.
sgdp
October 6th, 2009, 1:47 pm
How picky? :eh:
:razz:
I think of it like a venn diagram. You have looks, smarts/maturity, and decent age. The three never overlap.
But I go on a date with nearly anyone who asks, because I don't want to think I'm judging them too quickly. *Shrug*
gdoane
October 6th, 2009, 10:52 pm
Well I'm a gamer, and I pretty much REQUIRE a guy that games. As in a guy that will go to conventions with me, and doesn't mind hearing about my latests game group related drama. Of course being that I am a female gamer who does conventions finding a guy of the appropriate age is NOT a difficult task.
The thing of it is, there are all kinds of different gamers. For example, some gamers will only play sports titles, other gamers will stick exclusively to FPS games, and some are just system fanboys who go off on the PlayStation vs. XBox vs. Nintendo so-called "System Wars".
I like to consider myself a rounded gamer, certainly experienced as I got my first game console in 1978 which means I've been gaming for 30+ years now. I don't often find somebody with that much experience and I don't have that much in common with younger gamers except for in the latest greatest games. If somebody isn't a gamer, I can get along with them just fine since I'm not really all that likely to find somebody as into it and for as long as I've been at it.
angelicmadrigal
October 7th, 2009, 12:36 pm
The thing of it is, there are all kinds of different gamers. For example, some gamers will only play sports titles, other gamers will stick exclusively to FPS games, and some are just system fanboys who go off on the PlayStation vs. XBox vs. Nintendo so-called "System Wars".
I like to consider myself a rounded gamer, certainly experienced as I got my first game console in 1978 which means I've been gaming for 30+ years now. I don't often find somebody with that much experience and I don't have that much in common with younger gamers except for in the latest greatest games. If somebody isn't a gamer, I can get along with them just fine since I'm not really all that likely to find somebody as into it and for as long as I've been at it.
You're a console gamer, that isn't really a "rounded" gamer.
I do a little bit of everything: computer, console, table-top RPG, LARP. The ONLY thing I don't really do is minature gaming (although and paint them) and CCG (even though I do own a collection of Magic the Gathering Cards). I've been gaming since I was 12 (so that's 16 years).
Also, for me it's a lifestyle. I go to cons, I game with a group weekly, and play games in my spare time. I also do a lot of RPG realted writing. So it's imperative that I'm with someone who "gets it". Non-gamers usually do not get it.
As far as console games are concerned I'm tremedously picky.
jeepers
October 7th, 2009, 12:57 pm
I'm 48 and cannot imagine being with a man younger than me. Didn't like them younger even when I was younger. When I was younger, I did older. Sometimes by a few years, sometimes by a lot of years.
The whole looks thing is not nearly as interesting as the maturity thing. Immature guys with immature interests are more like torture than exciting. Yes, I'm sure that a much younger guy can be mature and he might find me interesting. But he would probably only find me interesting until he was ready to settle down, and then odds would be high that he would want to do it with a younger woman. I wouldn't be interested in the emotional investment if it were destined to be temporary.
I don't fine sport dating to be attractive, so that probably comes into play here, too.
JenyEliza
October 7th, 2009, 1:28 pm
I'm 48 and cannot imagine being with a man younger than me. Didn't like them younger even when I was younger. When I was younger, I did older. Sometimes by a few years, sometimes by a lot of years.
The whole looks thing is not nearly as interesting as the maturity thing. Immature guys with immature interests are more like torture than exciting. Yes, I'm sure that a much younger guy can be mature and he might find me interesting. But he would probably only find me interesting until he was ready to settle down, and then odds would be high that he would want to do it with a younger woman. I wouldn't be interested in the emotional investment if it were destined to be temporary.
I don't fine sport dating to be attractive, so that probably comes into play here, too.
Exactly! :clap:
I didn't date younger when I was younger, and I don't want younger now that I'm single and older (47 in December). And I agree...the looks thing isn't so important as the maturity, personality---and the "click"....you know, the thing you feel when you just know the other person is well suited for you.
And like you, I don't waste my time on temporary arrangements. Some people find great excitement in the chase....going from one temporary "Mr/Ms Right Now" to another. I don't. I don't find that the least satisfying or exciting.
I tend to either have someone special in my life---or not. And either way, I'm fine. I'm not afraid to be alone, and I'm not afraid to be with someone special. I take life as it comes. However, I don't date the masses and I don't date young 'uns. I've got teens to finish raising...I don't need or want another child to raise.
JenyEliza
October 7th, 2009, 1:39 pm
i am only 40, but will comment......
while i appreciate a good looking 20 year old female, i have no real attraction for them since i know that more than likely, i have absolutely nothing in common with them......
see "hey nineteen" by steely dan for futher reference......
When I was 18, I was dating a really really HOT guy who was 31 and a confirmed batchelor (whose status I was determined to change).
On my 19th birthday, he had that Steely Dan song played for me at my birthday party. Do you think I bought a clue? Hell.....no.
I hung in there for 5 long years waiting in vain for a ring and a proposal, when I finally threw in the towel and sent him on his way. A year later I heard he married someone else. :doh: :)) :)) :))
XDEM
October 7th, 2009, 4:28 pm
I tend to either have someone special in my life---or not.
What other choice do you have?:think:
Stream77
October 7th, 2009, 5:40 pm
I'm 52 and would probably be interested in a woman mid-30s to late 40s, but no way would a 20-something attract me. As many have already said, it's the common interests and speaking the same language that count - not getting envious looks from the other middle-aged guys as I parade my "trophy" in public.
Going out for a quiet dinner and having long talks are the kinds of things that would appeal to me in a woman I was dating. That would likely bore silly the younger crowd.
gdoane
October 7th, 2009, 11:45 pm
You're a console gamer, that isn't really a "rounded" gamer.
Not exactly true, that. I've gamed on more kinds of computers than most gamers these days even know existed. I've played on the Atari 800, the Commodore PET 2000, the TRS-80 Model III, the TRS-80 Color Computer, the Texas Instruments TI-99/4a, the Commodore 64, the Apple II and the Coleco ADAM.
The thing I thought was great fun was taking program listings from magazines (back when computer game magazines HAD computer listings) and translating the code from one machine to another. All I can say is thank God for "REM" statements in the programs so I could see what the programmer had in mind with the code.
The line between console gaming and PC gaming is so blurred now as to not even matter. PC's started out like consoles (for example, the Atari 800, the Commodore Vic-20, the TI-99/4A, the TRS-80 Color Computer and of course the Coleco ADAM took game cartridges) and now game consoles are downloading PC games. Wii has "World of Goo" and XBox360 has "Peggle" available for download because I downloaded them.
I do a little bit of everything: computer, console, table-top RPG, LARP. The ONLY thing I don't really do is minature gaming (although and paint them) and CCG (even though I do own a collection of Magic the Gathering Cards). I've been gaming since I was 12 (so that's 16 years).
I probably played thousands of games of UNO out at sea while in the US Navy. Sailors play a lot of games like you wouldn't believe. The card game of choice is Spades. I'd rather play Uno or Scrabble, but I do pretty well in Spades too.
Also, for me it's a lifestyle. I go to cons, I game with a group weekly, and play games in my spare time. I also do a lot of RPG realted writing. So it's imperative that I'm with someone who "gets it". Non-gamers usually do not get it.
I tend to gravitate more to the ARPG type games (Legend of Zelda, Beyond Oasis, Skies of Arcadia) or the Strat RPG's (Final Fantasy Tactics, Vandal Hearts, Shining Arms) than the ones that get into exploring the town, talking to everybody and taking a whole lot of my precious gaming time.
As far as console games are concerned I'm tremedously picky.
I wish I were. I've bought plenty of stinkers.
jeepers
October 9th, 2009, 10:01 am
Exactly! :clap:
I didn't date younger when I was younger, and I don't want younger now that I'm single and older (47 in December). And I agree...the looks thing isn't so important as the maturity, personality---and the "click"....you know, the thing you feel when you just know the other person is well suited for you.
And like you, I don't waste my time on temporary arrangements. Some people find great excitement in the chase....going from one temporary "Mr/Ms Right Now" to another. I don't. I don't find that the least satisfying or exciting.
I tend to either have someone special in my life---or not. And either way, I'm fine. I'm not afraid to be alone, and I'm not afraid to be with someone special. I take life as it comes. However, I don't date the masses and I don't date young 'uns. I've got teens to finish raising...I don't need or want another child to raise.
Amen, to that!
I cannot imagine having the patience nor the interest in bringing some young one up to speed. When you're interested in having a man in your life, you don't go dabbling where the 'boys' are. Boys are what my daughter is starting to be interested in. :lol:
And 'sport dating' was icky back when I was young enough that others were doing it. Big difference between running into someone casually and enjoying their company at a party or something, and specifically going out of my way to just sit at a table at dinner, talking to no one special about nothing special.
Uh, what? I've got things to do! :)) And since I enjoyed my own company as well as my female friends, had my own serious intersts, it wasn't like I was itching for generic male attention as a hobby.
I always looked at women that liked that stuff as being too desperate for attention.
ValricoKate
October 9th, 2009, 1:37 pm
nope ...they look like babies.
peter45
October 12th, 2009, 5:21 pm
I thought you were in your early 20's by your posting style, I would of never guessed you were in your 40's.
Age and deceit will always overcome youth and exuberance.
Tulsa
October 12th, 2009, 8:48 pm
I just turned 50, would I date anyone in their twenties?
Whatever would we talk about?
No, I really can't say I would.
Koushi Shinigami
October 12th, 2009, 11:42 pm
Hell no. I'm approaching retirement as a parent. Why would I step back into it?
KEK
October 13th, 2009, 2:20 am
Actually my answer leans towards no. For a while it might be fun and exciting, but their energy would exhaust me. (That's the only reason my answer would be a maybe, for the fun of it, but that would die a fast death.)
Someone who is fifty has seen more of life, has more formed opinions due to the fact they've experience more and are more settled in life.
Someone who is in their 20's have a wide life ahead of them, with many options. They have more nearly unattainable dreams.
They listen to different music, drive their cars more recklessly, most times don't take things as seriously as they should, and tend to see things more openmindedly because they simply just haven't lived yet. As you age, you get more firm in your beliefs, you know how to act in different situations and you have dealt with more in your life.
When I see a man with a young girl, I wonder why he's with her. Sure, the sex must be good for him, no doubt, but doesn't he realize he looks OLDER than he truly is because he's with someone younger?
I had a friend who was 52 but didn't look it, she looked about 38-40. She dated a guy who was 29. (Ah, he looked like he was 22...built like a brickhouse, what a bod!) Everytime she was with him, I swear I could see MORE of her wrinkles, she looked "worn" around him. Youth has a glow to them, which being in her lower 50's, she lost. She tried to dress younger with clothes that girls his age wore, which made her look even older. She tried too hard. Face it, she was 52, not 22.
There's something marvelous about being age appropriate in your clothing and in your mates.
I wish you luck with your decision and I hope no one tears this message apart piece by piece, you did ask the question. I'm not judging you, I don't know you! All I can say is what I feel and what I remember about my friend dating a younger guy.
Oh, and by the way, it didn't last. They found out they really didn't have anything in common and HE considered her too immature. How about that?
KEK;)
TimeToRelax
October 14th, 2009, 4:12 am
Simple answer... No, being over 50, I would not date with the intention to marry a female in her 20's. I would seek a woman in her 30's.
But, if someone over 50 would like to date a woman in her 20's, I personally have no objection to it.
I personally would prefer to not have more than a 20 year difference.
That as a general rule.
snagswolf
October 14th, 2009, 8:55 am
I would, but my wife won't let me.
Beccaria
October 14th, 2009, 9:04 am
No.
If for some reason (God forbid) that I find myself single again at 50, I think I'd be happy bacheloring it for the rest of my life.
Dating's too much of a headache.
CaffeineHat
October 14th, 2009, 3:27 pm
Is there booze involved? Seriously I had a better comeback but Snagswolf beat me to it.
50's to 20's? I don't think so but maybe 60's to 30's if that makes any sense. More life experiences. But again, booze helps.
TimeToRelax
October 15th, 2009, 2:48 pm
30 year old women are sexy !
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PhantomPholly
October 15th, 2009, 4:29 pm
I went through the death of a spouse and was dating in my 40s. The young ones are pretty, then they start talking. "Did you know Paul McCartney was in a group before Wings?"
I remarried (working on my second good marriage) a woman 2 years younger than I.
MarkyS
October 15th, 2009, 8:40 pm
I went through the death of a spouse and was dating in my 40s. The young ones are pretty, then they start talking. "Did you know Paul McCartney was in a group before Wings?"
I remarried (working on my second good marriage) a woman 2 years younger than I.
First time I ever heard of Beatle-ology as a grounds for marriage or lack of it.
M
MarkyS
October 15th, 2009, 8:45 pm
Actually my answer leans towards no. For a while it might be fun and exciting, but their energy would exhaust me. (That's the only reason my answer would be a maybe, for the fun of it, but that would die a fast death.)
Someone who is fifty has seen more of life, has more formed opinions due to the fact they've experience more and are more settled in life.
Someone who is in their 20's have a wide life ahead of them, with many options. They have more nearly unattainable dreams.
They listen to different music, drive their cars more recklessly, most times don't take things as seriously as they should, and tend to see things more openmindedly because they simply just haven't lived yet. As you age, you get more firm in your beliefs, you know how to act in different situations and you have dealt with more in your life.
When I see a man with a young girl, I wonder why he's with her. Sure, the sex must be good for him, no doubt, but doesn't he realize he looks OLDER than he truly is because he's with someone younger?
I had a friend who was 52 but didn't look it, she looked about 38-40. She dated a guy who was 29. (Ah, he looked like he was 22...built like a brickhouse, what a bod!) Everytime she was with him, I swear I could see MORE of her wrinkles, she looked "worn" around him. Youth has a glow to them, which being in her lower 50's, she lost. She tried to dress younger with clothes that girls his age wore, which made her look even older. She tried too hard. Face it, she was 52, not 22.
There's something marvelous about being age appropriate in your clothing and in your mates.
I wish you luck with your decision and I hope no one tears this message apart piece by piece, you did ask the question. I'm not judging you, I don't know you! All I can say is what I feel and what I remember about my friend dating a younger guy.
Oh, and by the way, it didn't last. They found out they really didn't have anything in common and HE considered her too immature. How about that?
KEK;)
Methinks she didn't give a damn what other people thought of her looks. I would hope so, anyway. That sounds healthier to me.
Of course it didn't last. Such daliances almost never do, but they can still bring a lot of learning and joy into lives, while they do.
M