Is Owning "Pretty Baby" with Brooke Shields a Crime?

[tha malcontent™]

Is Owning "Pretty Baby" with Brooke Shields a Crime?

There is currently a News Story about a photo taken of Brooke entirely Nude when she was under age and it was removed from an Exhibit because of those Concerns.

She appears entirely Nude and if I am not mistaken, in Sexual scenes when she was about 12 Years Old.

Hell, I think Cable runs it and you can rent it at the Video Store... Even PBS played the uncut version of it a few years back and discussed the issue.

Anyone got Netflix that can check?

Anyway, is it?… Should it be?

Where is the Line?

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peace...

[pattyk]

was it a scene from Blue Lagoon?

[tha malcontent™]

was it a scene from Blue Lagoon?

She was Older in Blue Lagoon...

Pretty Baby is Pretty Questionable Considering she was 12ish...

Yet it is still for Sale, as far as I Know and PBS has Aired it via our Tax Dollars.

So why is the Photo a Problem?...

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peace...

[LouC]

Britain's Tate Modern gallery said on Thursday it had closed a room at its new blockbuster exhibition that contains a naked image of actress Brooke Shields aged 10, after police launched an investigation.

The image, taken by artist Richard Prince in 1983 from another photograph, shows the U.S. star posing nude in a bathtub wearing heavy make up. Police are considering whether the image breaches obscenity laws. "Officers from the Metropolitan Police Service Obscene Publications Unit met with staff at the Tate Modern on September 30 regarding an image which was part of an exhibition due to open at the gallery on Thursday, October 1," police said in a statement.

Tate said the room, which contains only the Shields image, had been temporarily closed, but the rest of the show, featuring other sexually explicit work including a video of an artist having sex with a collector, would open as normal.

"We're in discussion with police at the moment," a spokeswoman for Tate Modern said.

Click LINK (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091001/people_nm/us_tate_pornography_2)

Those people deserve the NHS... :)

[captusa]

Is Owning "Pretty Baby" with Brooke Shields a Crime?

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peace...
Crime no.
Sin in your heart YES!!!

[tha malcontent™]

Crime no.
Sin in your heart YES!!!

My Heart?... ;)

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peace...

[captusa]

My Heart?... ;)

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peace...

I flunked anatomy.
So sue me.

[RogerDodger]

Did Polanski direct this?

[LouC]

Did Polanski direct this?

No.

It was Louis Malle who directed it.

Polanski just had champagne, drugs, and **** sex while watching it.

[tha malcontent™]

No.

It was Louis Malle who directed it.

Polanski just had champagne, drugs, and **** sex while watching it.

According to Hannity, it was Sodomy... ;)

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peace...

[Celtic Pax]

Is Owning "Pretty Baby" with Brooke Shields a Crime?

There is currently a News Story about a photo taken of Brooke entirely Nude when she was under age and it was removed from an Exhibit because of those Concerns.

She appears entirely Nude and if I am not mistaken, in Sexual scenes when she was about 12 Years Old.

Hell, I think Cable runs it and you can rent it at the Video Store... Even PBS played the uncut version of it a few years back and discussed the issue.

Anyone got Netflix that can check?

Anyway, is it?… Should it be?

Where is the Line?

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peace...It is availableon netflix as far as I can see along with The Blue Lagoon.

[tha malcontent™]

It is availableon netflix as far as I can see along with The Blue Lagoon.

Pretty Baby is Worse than the Photo that has been Removed...

It's Actual Video of her, not only Nude, but Portraying Sex at about the same Age.

I don't get how this Video, Considering the Obcenity Laws and Child Porn Laws, is still Available.

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peace...

[Celtic Pax]

Pretty Baby is Worse than the Photo that has been Removed...

It's Actual Video of her, not only Nude, but Portraying Sex at about the same Age.

I don't get how this Video, Considering the Obcenity Laws and Child Porn Laws, is still Available.

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peace...No doubt that it has been grandfathered since it came out before any present laws on Obscenity and Child Porn.

[tha malcontent™]

No doubt that it has been grandfathered since it came out before any present laws on Obscenity and Child Porn.

Interesting... So Old "Child Porn" is OK?...

I cant' seem to Beleive that's the Case... At least I Hope it's not.

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peace...

[brouski]

Typically, child nudity is permissible when it's associated with actual artistic expression. You'll get the occasional D.A. or Wal-Mart photo tech that wants to make an issue of it.

[Vaard]

i think chistina richie also has a nude seen as a 13 or 14 year old......


i know my wife came across some pics of her during work........


maybe it was just a photo spread......

[captusa]

i think chistina richie also has a nude seen as a 13 or 14 year old......


i know my wife came across some pics of her during work........


maybe it was just a photo spread......

In the days of heavy censoreship. (before The Lady Chatterly's Lover and Penthouse cases) a sheriff banned all magazines that fad the naked baby on the Gerber ad.

[captusa]

Interesting... So Old "Child Porn" is OK?...

I cant' seem to Beleive that's the Case... At least I Hope it's not.

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peace...

It's not.
You can get prosecuted for owning or selling Tracy Lord's porno.
She confessed that she was under age when she made them.
Women in the industry claimed she was so sophisticated and "professional" that they never suspected she wasn't over 18.

[Vaard]

It's not.
You can get prosecuted for owning or selling Tracy Lord's porno.
She confessed that she was under age when she made them.
Women in the industry claimed she was so sophisticated and "professional" that they never suspected she wasn't over 18.

well, traci lords did actual hardcore porn........


there was nothing simulated or artistioc about it........


i do have to say that she was very VERY good at it.........


although i think it was just considered underage porn as oipposed to child porn... child porn i think they have to be prepubesent...... and traci definately wasnt pre pubesent.......

[DLaw911]

General rule is nude photos are not illegal.

Photos depicting sexual activity would be child porn. Photos depicting sexually suggestive poses could be child porn.

[DLaw911]

Typically, child nudity is permissible when it's associated with actual artistic expression. You'll get the occasional D.A. or Wal-Mart photo tech that wants to make an issue of it.It does not require artistic expression.

[DLaw911]

....although i think it was just considered underage porn as oipposed to child porn... child porn i think they have to be prepubesent...... and traci definately wasnt pre pubesent.......Child porn is anything below the age of 18 --- period. Traci hoodwinked the producers of her videos with fake ID and even a fake passport.

[Fire Watch]

Traci hoodwinked the producers of her videos
What an unfortunate wording choice .

[DLaw911]

No doubt that it has been grandfathered since it came out before any present laws on Obscenity and Child Porn.Child porn laws have remained constant in the US for many years. There is no grandfather clause except to the ex post facto laws against buying an selling since any new laws would not be retroactive EXCEPT to possession and new sale or transfer.

In sure there are plenty of Lord's vids carefully hidden away, but they were illegal THEN and are illegal NOW. Let me give a better example. You go to a market and buy sugar. You get home and find you bought a bag of cocaine. You keep it. You did not buy it knowing it was cocaine. But once you learn what it is possesssion becomes illegal. Mistake of fact would only be a defense UNTIL you learn the item is contraband.

[DLaw911]

What an unfortunate wording choice .I'm sure there are plenty of Traci Lords videos out there just waiting for dirty old men to snatch up.

[tha malcontent™]

What an unfortunate wording choice .

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peace...

[captusa]

I'm sure there are plenty of Traci Lords videos out there just waiting for dirty old men to snatch up.

We prefer sexually active senior citizens.

[tha malcontent™]

I'm sure there are plenty of Traci Lords videos out there just waiting for dirty old men to snatch up.

He can't Stop, Folks!... :))

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peace...

[captusa]

well, traci lords did actual hardcore porn........


there was nothing simulated or artistioc about it........


i do have to say that she was very VERY good at it.........


although i think it was just considered underage porn as oipposed to child porn... child porn i think they have to be prepubesent...... and traci definately wasnt pre pubesent.......
It is "kiddy porn" (legally)
As Dlaw pointed out the producers were not guilty of a crime because they definitely were mislead.
The question is if the other "actors" were guilty of statutory rape (considering age of conscent where the film was shot.) since ingnorance of age is never accepted as an excuse.

[DLaw911]

We prefer sexually active senior citizens.The death panels will snatch them up. BIG loss to Pfizer who will see their profits DROP and their executives speaking to shareholders with STIFF upper lips.

[DLaw911]

It is "kiddy porn" (legally)
As Dlaw pointed out the producers were not guilty of a crime because they definitely were mislead.
The question is if the other "actors" were guilty of statutory rape (considering age of conscent where the film was shot.) since ingnorance of age is never accepted as an excuse.To be more concise they were not charged with child porn but lewd act on a child (one can be guilty if only producing or directing the sex act). This is normally a strict liability offense under today's law and mistake of fact (i.e. mistake of age ot a defense). However, the reason the charges were dropped in THIS case was because Lord's conduct was so manipulative and her fake ID's so realistic that no jury would convict.

BTW Lords (Nora Louise Kuzma) used to live on the same street where I now live, although I only moved here 6 years ago. Maybe I should do some digging in her old back yard hehehe.

[DLaw911]

He can't Stop, Folks!... :))

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peace...Some things are hard to do, Mal.

[tha malcontent™]

Some things are hard to do, Mal.

And another!...

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peace...

[DLaw911]

And another!...

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peace...OK I know when to quit.

[Paul31]

Child porn laws have remained constant in the US for many years. There is no grandfather clause except to the ex post facto laws against buying an selling since any new laws would not be retroactive EXCEPT to possession and new sale or transfer.

In sure there are plenty of Lord's vids carefully hidden away, but they were illegal THEN and are illegal NOW. Let me give a better example. You go to a market and buy sugar. You get home and find you bought a bag of cocaine. You keep it. You did not buy it knowing it was cocaine. But once you learn what it is possesssion becomes illegal. Mistake of fact would only be a defense UNTIL you learn the item is contraband.
Dave Burgess, owner of a brothel in Nevada, was one who had her movies. He got 15 years in prison for it.

As for the sugar turning out to be cocaine, I hate when that happens. ;)

[tha malcontent™]

OK I know when to quit.

Oh, Stop it!...

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peace...

[tha malcontent™]

well, traci lords did actual hardcore porn........


there was nothing simulated or artistioc about it........


i do have to say that she was very VERY good at it.........


although i think it was just considered underage porn as oipposed to child porn... child porn i think they have to be prepubesent...... and traci definately wasnt pre pubesent.......

I was too Entertained ****in' with D to Miss how Outright Disturbing this Post is...

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peace...

[natalie addict]

Is Owning "Pretty Baby" with Brooke Shields a Crime?

There is currently a News Story about a photo taken of Brooke entirely Nude when she was under age and it was removed from an Exhibit because of those Concerns.

She appears entirely Nude and if I am not mistaken, in Sexual scenes when she was about 12 Years Old.

Hell, I think Cable runs it and you can rent it at the Video Store... Even PBS played the uncut version of it a few years back and discussed the issue.

Anyone got Netflix that can check?

Anyway, is it?… Should it be?

Where is the Line?

:)

peace...

Along those same lines anyone who has the September 1984 issue of Penthouse with a 15 year old centerfold Pet named Traci Lords is a child pornographer as well, I presume.

[Celtic Pax]

Child porn laws have remained constant in the US for many years. There is no grandfather clause except to the ex post facto laws against buying an selling since any new laws would not be retroactive EXCEPT to possession and new sale or transfer.

In sure there are plenty of Lord's vids carefully hidden away, but they were illegal THEN and are illegal NOW. Let me give a better example. You go to a market and buy sugar. You get home and find you bought a bag of cocaine. You keep it. You did not buy it knowing it was cocaine. But once you learn what it is possesssion becomes illegal. Mistake of fact would only be a defense UNTIL you learn the item is contraband.May be as related to hard core but "Pretty Baby" and Blue Lagoon are not considered hard core nor even (by most standards) soft core porn. So, laws about under age porn etc. do not apply to the original movies today. Other porn before a certain year (don't really know the year) are not covered under newer laws that relate to porn. Look up the disclaimers for such film as Deep Throat and films done int he 1970s or so.

[tha malcontent™]

Along those same lines anyone who has the September 1984 issue of Penthouse with a 15 year old centerfold Pet named Traci Lords is a child pornographer as well, I presume.

Who is in your Avie?...

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[Nik Notorious]

For what it's worth, (and I doubt it's worth all that much) in "The Blue Lagoon" Brooke Shields nude scenes were done by body doubles. The stuff in "Pretty Baby", however, was all her. I've seen the movie and remember a few nude scenes, but I don't recall anything that was explicitly sexual.

[tha malcontent™]

For what it's worth, (and I doubt it's worth all that much) in "The Blue Lagoon" Brooke Shields nude scenes were done by body doubles. The stuff in "Pretty Baby", however, was all her. I've seen the movie and remember a few nude scenes, but I don't recall anything that was explicitly sexual.

No, it's Certainly not Porno, but Compared with the Pic that was Removed from this "Art" Show, Pretty Baby is Worse.

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peace...

[EnchantedFrog]

Pretty Baby was a pathetic movie. Poor acting, accents that were laughable,
story line that bordered on boredom, and the only reason it ever got made was
because some hollywood deviants figured that there would be a market of
pedophiles if they made a film showing some nudity involving pre-teen girls.

[MarkyS]

....... You go to a market and buy sugar. You get home and find you bought a bag of cocaine. You keep it. You did not buy it knowing it was cocaine. But once you learn what it is possesssion becomes illegal. Mistake of fact would only be a defense UNTIL you learn the item is contraband.



Damn, that happens to me all the time. The stuff is piling up!

M