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victormedina
September 30th, 2009, 8:25 pm
Hey all,

I posted this last night on my blog and thought you might like to read it before deciding to see this movie.

I just spoke to a movie critic friend of mine who had just left a press screening of "The Invention of Lying" and even he, a professed non-conservative, was shocked that the film was essentially an attack on the precepts of Christianity. He knew I would want to know, and stated that the film is much different from the trailers you see on TV. The movie is written and directed by Ricky Gervais, who I otherwise find very funny on the BBC "Office." Even so, I will try to relay what he told me about the film. It is spoilerish.


According to my critic friend, the world depicted in the film is one where only truth is spoken, and lying does not exist (until Gervais' character invents it). Of course, in Gervais' world of total truth, logic, and reason, God and religion does not exist. At some point, a character close to Gervais' character dies, and to comfort their final moments, he makes up "a man in the sky," and an afterlife where family and friends will see each other again and good people get a mansion in heaven.


Of course, all of the naive people in this world believe his lie of God, and Gervais' character is treated like a prophet. At one point, he grows out his hair and beard and looks like a sloppy Jesus, and his made-up "gospel" - outlining basically what most Christians believe - is written on a pizza box made to look like the Ten Commandments. Churches aren't called churches, but places of meditation about the man in the sky. A church is shown with Gervais in stained glass like Jesus, holding the pizza box gospel. At the end of the film, he admits God is a lie. That's it. No "there might be a God." The film has no moral center except what the characters make for themselves. It hammers the idea that anyone who believes in God is an idiot by mocking Christian tradition.


Am I suggesting people boycott the movie based on what I said? No, but I am suggesting people be more informed about the film before they see it. If what I said is confirmed by other critics, then you know it's correct and you should make a decision based on that. I suggest you check a critic with some kind of moral compass like Ted Baehr at Movieguide.org (and no, he was not the one I spoke to).

Vic

(http://www.WhenLiberalsAttack.com)

JediMindTrick
September 30th, 2009, 8:41 pm
Just a suggestion: you will do a lot more good for the world if you spend less time worrying about a silly movie.

CaptainPike
September 30th, 2009, 8:48 pm
Just a suggestion: you will do a lot more good for the world if you spend less time worrying about a silly movie.

It would be awful if someone were to discuss something on a discussion forum.

victormedina
September 30th, 2009, 8:57 pm
Just a suggestion: you will do a lot more good for the world if you spend less time worrying about a silly movie.
OK, JediMindTrick. I'll worry about you, your 8,000 posts, and your drunken cat. That'll make the world better! Gee, I'm feeling better already!

Vic

(http://www.WhenLiberalsAttack.com)

CaptainPike
September 30th, 2009, 9:11 pm
Probly not gonna work out if you keep pushing your website.

SFC(R)L
September 30th, 2009, 9:31 pm
I think maybe we should allow art to just flow over us if so wish it.

neoINDIE
September 30th, 2009, 10:12 pm
So what if it is anti-Christian?

neoINDIE
September 30th, 2009, 10:14 pm
Probly not gonna work out if you keep pushing your website.

Oh stop...

CaptainPike
September 30th, 2009, 10:25 pm
So what if it is anti-Christian?

Do you support anti Christian propaganda?

Snafu
September 30th, 2009, 10:46 pm
Why are my fellow conservatives worried about this guy? When he stars in a movie it bombs at the box office, and this one will too.

Dragon1963
September 30th, 2009, 10:52 pm
Sounds like a stupid movie. So I won't be watching in the first place.

JediMindTrick
September 30th, 2009, 11:28 pm
OK, JediMindTrick. I'll worry about you, your 8,000 posts, and your drunken cat. That'll make the world better! Gee, I'm feeling better already!

Vic

(http://www.WhenLiberalsAttack.com)

I'm not the one getting worked up over a movie. I just find it sadly amusing how worked up some christians get anytime they perceive a movie as being against their beliefs. If you would spend more time being happy in your beliefs and less time time getting angry because someone else believes differently you would be happier.

Snafu
September 30th, 2009, 11:58 pm
I'm not the one getting worked up over a movie. I just find it sadly amusing how worked up some christians get anytime they perceive a movie as being against their beliefs. If you would spend more time being happy in your beliefs and less time time getting angry because someone else believes differently you would be happier.

Hmmm...yeah, I think I have to agree with that. Plus, how many times have we gotten all worked up about something that MOST PEOPLE don't even know about, until conservative radio and the shows on Fox News actually give them free publicity by complaining about it.

Believe me, this guy is not popular, his other movie bombed and this one probably will too.
The marketplace will take care of him.

neoINDIE
October 1st, 2009, 12:20 am
Do you support anti Christian propaganda?

Why it it propoganda? Why can't it just be a movie making fun of religion, if it even is? (Christians tend to be extremely over sensitive abou their beliefs...)

God knows there is enough there to make fun of.

To answer your question, I support the right to make anti-Christian propoganda.

Or should everything just conform to your views?

Clintville
October 1st, 2009, 12:46 am
Believe me, this guy is not popular, his other movie bombed and this one probably will too.
The marketplace will take care of him.
Actually, his last movie made money and was critically successful. This movie hasn't been released yet, but it is so far also critically successful. And he is somewhat popular, he did create The Office and has won numerous awards.


So his apparently evil, anti Christian movie of doom might actually be watched by a lot of innocent Americans.

CaptainPike
October 1st, 2009, 12:58 am
Why it it propoganda? Why can't it just be a movie making fun of religion, if it even is? (Christians tend to be extremely over sensitive abou their beliefs...)

God knows there is enough there to make fun of.

To answer your question, I support the right to make anti-Christian propoganda.

Or should everything just conform to your views?

I'm not talking about this movie anymore, and I'm not talking about anyone's right to create anti Christian propaganda. I'm asking you specifically: Do you support anti Christian propoganda?

Sinister Rouge
October 1st, 2009, 1:00 am
I hadn't planned on seeing this movie before, but after opening this thread I plan on checking it out.:flag:

jeepers
October 1st, 2009, 1:22 am
I'm not the one getting worked up over a movie. I just find it sadly amusing how worked up some christians get anytime they perceive a movie as being against their beliefs. If you would spend more time being happy in your beliefs and less time time getting angry because someone else believes differently you would be happier.

I have this feeling that jihadists could use your message more than American Christians. :lol:

Sorry, it's what popped into my head when I read your comment.

merickson
October 1st, 2009, 1:55 am
Why is mocking a guy with commandments written on a pizza box anti-Christian. I can think of two other major religions that reveer the 10 commandments.

The Game
October 1st, 2009, 7:15 am
If you get upset and angry at someone who is making fun or doubting your views then you probably should ask yourself.

Why am I getting upset?

birddog1
October 1st, 2009, 9:29 am
I think people of faith should be more secure in their beliefs and not worry as much about what someone else thinks of their religion.

For the record I am a regular church going Christian and the premise of the movie sounds funny and entertaining to me. I don't feel the least bit threatend by it.

Buffalo
October 1st, 2009, 9:45 am
I saw it at school right after we studied evolution.

neoINDIE
October 1st, 2009, 10:02 am
I'm not talking about this movie anymore, and I'm not talking about anyone's right to create anti Christian propaganda. I'm asking you specifically: Do you support anti Christian propoganda?

Depends on if it is funny.

Mobulis
October 1st, 2009, 1:04 pm
Could you post some quotes that have the christian god in them from the movie?