Local Democrats and others (ACORN) Voter Fraud, NY

[Nevarwinter]

http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/29/massive-voter-fraud-in-ny-linked-to-acorn/

The Working Families Party and local Democratic Party Officials are at the center of a massive voter fraud scandal in Troy, NY.

According to the Times Union:

Dozens of forged and fraudulent absentee ballots from people registered to vote on the Working Families Party line were filed in the Sept. 15 primary elections in Troy.

Documents at the county Board of Elections show the fraudulent ballots were handled by or prepared on behalf of various elected officials and leaders and operatives for the Democratic and Working Families parties.

There may be as many as 50 absentee ballots that were forged, according to people close to the case. Countywide, there were 126 absentee ballots applied for on the Working Families Party line.

Nothing to see here. ACORN is just being attacked by Right Wing Thugs.

They are not indicted in over 10 states for voter registration fraud.
400,000 of their over 1,000,000 voter registrations were not fraudulent.
They are not in court right now in Nevada, and an ACORN board member did not just resign.
They never got caught enabling child prostitution, tax evasion, and mortgage fraud.

Nothing to see here.

[Rurudyne]

A collection of unrelated non-storys to be sure.

[Nevarwinter]

50 isn't enough to change anything! Why would we even bother printing this?

pfft. 50.

[Nevarwinter]

Oh, wait...I forgot one.

These 15...72...860 rogue employees are really making ACORN look bad. They do so much good for the poor!

[PredFan]

http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/29/massive-voter-fraud-in-ny-linked-to-acorn/


Nothing to see here. ACORN is just being attacked by Right Wing Thugs.

They are not indicted in over 10 states for voter registration fraud.
400,000 of their over 1,000,000 voter registrations were not fraudulent.
They are not in court right now in Nevada, and an ACORN board member did not just resign.
They never got caught enabling child prostitution, tax evasion, and mortgage fraud.

Nothing to see here.

We're just racist.

[PredFan]

You know that ACORN takes full credit for putting Al Frankin in office don't ya?

I'd love to see them investigated for that.

[Charlie A]

You know that ACORN takes full credit for putting Al Frankin in office don't ya?

I'd love to see them investigated for that.

Oh ho!

[kat]

Oh, wait...I forgot one.

These 15...72...860 rogue employees are really making ACORN look bad. They do so much good for the poor!

No they don't. i ran across this astute blogger asking the questions that the press should be asking. VERY GOOD QUESTIONS!


ACORN Cincinnati, when operating, was seeing barely more than one new client each business day. Barely one.
A September 18 Cincinnati Enquirer story (http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20090918/NEWS01/909190338/) by Quan Truong takes the number down further, even though the services described are wider in scope (bold is mine):
People seeking services from ACORN will have little luck getting any as the agency’s offices statewide try to ride out nationwide scandal over advice given to some clients and caught on hidden cameras.
Locally, that means about 20 clients a month will be turned away, said Amy Teitelman, the local and state director of ACORN.
The decision to suspend services, which includes foreclosure prevention and tax preparation, came after conservative activists revealed hidden camera footage of ACORN employees in other states offering advice about setting up prostitution businesses.
We’ve now gone from barely one to only one new client each business day, and for all services.
That’s embarrassing. What in the world are these people doing all day?
The stories just excerpted are, as far as I have been able to determine based on this Cincinnati.com search (http://www.cincinnati.com/search/results.html?cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&web_search=false&cx=006127851596837413458%3Asr-5gi4kxko&q=acorn&sa.x=13&sa.y=6), the only two locally-originated Greater Cincinnati stories generated in the wake of James O’Keefe’s and Hannah Giles’s undercover video work in various U.S. cities (five thus far). I’d say I just gave our locals a story idea, if they would care to run with it.
A similar pattern holds when you look at the numbers nationally. For example, here’s this excerpt (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,550582,00.html) from a September 15 report by Fox News, which says it obtained the numbers it reported from ACORN’s national web site (bold is mine):
Six years later, in 1986, the organization created the ACORN Housing Corporation to “build and preserve housing assets.” Since its inception, according to its Web site, the corporation has assisted more than 45,000 families to become first-time homeowners and has rehabbed more than 850 vacant or abandoned housing units.
What?
Even if those totals were for only 5 years instead of 23, that would be 1.57 families per office per week (45,000 divided by 110 cities divided by 5 years divided by 52). It seems pretty obvious that the real number is a lot lower than 1.57. Again assuming only 5 years instead of 23, the rehabs are less than 1.6 per city per full year (850 divided by 110 divided by 5). Habitat for Humanity (this is a huge understatement) runs circles around that (http://www.habitat.org/how/factsheet.aspx).
Again, what in the world are these people doing all day?
Finally, there’s this September 23 AP story (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ACORN_IRS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT) about the Internal Revenue Service severing its ties with ACORN:
The Internal Revenue Service said it would no longer include ACORN in its volunteer tax assistance program. The program offered free tax advice to about 3 million low- and moderate-income tax filers this spring. ACORN provided help on about 25,000 returns, the IRS said.
25,000 returns nationwide? That’s less than 1% of the 3 million cited, is just over 200 per year in each of ACORN’s 110 cities, and likely includes a lot of repeat-year returns that are pretty easy to prepare. The IRS could have fired ACORN solely on the basis that they weren’t worth management’s time and attention.
By contrast, here’s just one example (http://www.uwkc.org/ourcommunity/endinghomelessness/eitc/default.asp) of a United Way taxpayer assistance outreach effort out of Washington state (bold is mine):
In 2009, 530 volunteers dedicated 16,000 hours to United Way of King County’s Free Tax Prep Campaign. Volunteers prepared 13,631 tax returns, helped return $17.3 million in federal refunds back to the community, including $5.2 million in Earned Income Tax Credits, and saved customers an estimated $1 million in tax preparation fees.
The King County group, in just one metro area, did over half as many returns as ACORN did in the entire country, and provided their services for free.
I repeat, what in the world are the people in these ACORN offices really doing?
Local reporters ought to be all over this, assuming they’re interested in digging for the truth instead of parroting ACORN’s press releases and talking points. National reporters should be ashamed that they have ignored the obvious indications that ACORN’s offices really accomplish very little of value on behalf of the poor people they allegedly serve.

http://www.bizzyblog.com/2009/09/28/acorn-question-for-local-media-what-in-the-world-are-these-people-really-doing/

[darknessesedge]

http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/29/massive-voter-fraud-in-ny-linked-to-acorn/


Nothing to see here. ACORN is just being attacked by Right Wing Thugs.

They are not indicted in over 10 states for voter registration fraud.
400,000 of their over 1,000,000 voter registrations were not fraudulent.
They are not in court right now in Nevada, and an ACORN board member did not just resign.
They never got caught enabling child prostitution, tax evasion, and mortgage fraud.

Nothing to see here.

I thought acorn was a 1 day story tops???:rolleyes:

[Charlie A]

You know that ACORN takes full credit for putting Al Frankin in office don't ya?

I'd love to see them investigated for that.

And find the links to George Soros, MN Sec. State Richie, and the Secretary of State Project while we're at it...

[Rurudyne]

I repeat, what in the world are the people in these ACORN offices really doing?

What? You think on-line porn or high speed internet is free?

[Macharius]

Now would be a great time for Frankin to completely distance himself from them, wouldn't you think?

[Charlie A]

Now would be a great time for Frankin to completely distance himself from them, wouldn't you think?

Did he vote to defund them?

[LouC]

Now this is real Vote Fraud and not just voter registration fraud.

Some interesting info about one of the players from this case, if this is the same person:

Documents at the county Board of Elections show the fraudulent ballots were handled by or prepared on behalf of various elected officials and leaders and operatives for the Democratic and Working Families parties. A Troy housing authority employee, Anthony Defiglio, who sources said oversees vacant properties for the Troy Housing Authority, also handled many of the fraudulent ballots, according to public records and interviews with voters who said they were duped.

Some of the suspicious absentee ballots list Defiglio as the person who could pick it up for the voter. Residents of Griswold Heights said he is a familiar figure around those complexes.

Other ballots were handled by, or returnable to, Democratic or WFP party officials, or candidates for citywide office, including: Troy Council President Clement Campana; City Clerk William McInerny; Councilman Gary Galuski; Rensselaer County WFP Chairman James Welch; council candidates Michael LoPorto and Kevin McGrath; and Tom Aldrich, a LoPorto campaign volunteer.

Times Union Click LINK (http://www.timesunion.com/ASPStories/Story.asp?StoryID=846371&LinkFrom=RSS)

Democracy For America Website

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk296/bigoldfartdude/ad.jpg
Anthony Defiglio meets Bill Clinton

Name:
anthony defiglio

Location:
Troy, NY

My Interests: politics sports volunteering

Political Skills: campaign management

Favorite Quote: all politics is local

About Me: i ran a succesful city council campaign in 05 and running re election campaign this year for councilman clem campana in troy ny my two proudest moments are when i met hillary here in troy and president clinton when i was invited to the white house for a christmas cocktail party

Click LINK (http://www.democracyforamerica.com/users/263620-anthony-defiglio)

Could we soon add Prison Showers to Mr. Defiglio's "My Interests:" list? :dance:

[penner01]

No they don't. i ran across this astute blogger asking the questions that the press should be asking. VERY GOOD QUESTIONS!


ACORN Cincinnati, when operating, was seeing barely more than one new client each business day. Barely one.
A September 18 Cincinnati Enquirer story (http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/AB/20090918/NEWS01/909190338/) by Quan Truong takes the number down further, even though the services described are wider in scope (bold is mine):
People seeking services from ACORN will have little luck getting any as the agency’s offices statewide try to ride out nationwide scandal over advice given to some clients and caught on hidden cameras.
Locally, that means about 20 clients a month will be turned away, said Amy Teitelman, the local and state director of ACORN.
The decision to suspend services, which includes foreclosure prevention and tax preparation, came after conservative activists revealed hidden camera footage of ACORN employees in other states offering advice about setting up prostitution businesses.
We’ve now gone from barely one to only one new client each business day, and for all services.
That’s embarrassing. What in the world are these people doing all day?
The stories just excerpted are, as far as I have been able to determine based on this Cincinnati.com search (http://www.cincinnati.com/search/results.html?cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&web_search=false&cx=006127851596837413458%3Asr-5gi4kxko&q=acorn&sa.x=13&sa.y=6), the only two locally-originated Greater Cincinnati stories generated in the wake of James O’Keefe’s and Hannah Giles’s undercover video work in various U.S. cities (five thus far). I’d say I just gave our locals a story idea, if they would care to run with it.
A similar pattern holds when you look at the numbers nationally. For example, here’s this excerpt (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,550582,00.html) from a September 15 report by Fox News, which says it obtained the numbers it reported from ACORN’s national web site (bold is mine):
Six years later, in 1986, the organization created the ACORN Housing Corporation to “build and preserve housing assets.” Since its inception, according to its Web site, the corporation has assisted more than 45,000 families to become first-time homeowners and has rehabbed more than 850 vacant or abandoned housing units.
What?
Even if those totals were for only 5 years instead of 23, that would be 1.57 families per office per week (45,000 divided by 110 cities divided by 5 years divided by 52). It seems pretty obvious that the real number is a lot lower than 1.57. Again assuming only 5 years instead of 23, the rehabs are less than 1.6 per city per full year (850 divided by 110 divided by 5). Habitat for Humanity (this is a huge understatement) runs circles around that (http://www.habitat.org/how/factsheet.aspx).
Again, what in the world are these people doing all day?
Finally, there’s this September 23 AP story (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ACORN_IRS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT) about the Internal Revenue Service severing its ties with ACORN:
The Internal Revenue Service said it would no longer include ACORN in its volunteer tax assistance program. The program offered free tax advice to about 3 million low- and moderate-income tax filers this spring. ACORN provided help on about 25,000 returns, the IRS said.
25,000 returns nationwide? That’s less than 1% of the 3 million cited, is just over 200 per year in each of ACORN’s 110 cities, and likely includes a lot of repeat-year returns that are pretty easy to prepare. The IRS could have fired ACORN solely on the basis that they weren’t worth management’s time and attention.
By contrast, here’s just one example (http://www.uwkc.org/ourcommunity/endinghomelessness/eitc/default.asp) of a United Way taxpayer assistance outreach effort out of Washington state (bold is mine):
In 2009, 530 volunteers dedicated 16,000 hours to United Way of King County’s Free Tax Prep Campaign. Volunteers prepared 13,631 tax returns, helped return $17.3 million in federal refunds back to the community, including $5.2 million in Earned Income Tax Credits, and saved customers an estimated $1 million in tax preparation fees.
The King County group, in just one metro area, did over half as many returns as ACORN did in the entire country, and provided their services for free.
I repeat, what in the world are the people in these ACORN offices really doing?
Local reporters ought to be all over this, assuming they’re interested in digging for the truth instead of parroting ACORN’s press releases and talking points. National reporters should be ashamed that they have ignored the obvious indications that ACORN’s offices really accomplish very little of value on behalf of the poor people they allegedly serve.

http://www.bizzyblog.com/2009/09/28/acorn-question-for-local-media-what-in-the-world-are-these-people-really-doing/
This is great stuff and I know it's about ACORN but I gotta tell ya.....King County's posture in the last couple of elections make it all look every bit as bad as ACORN so I don't know if it's a good measure. :)

[MrShotShot]

"Up next at 11:00, local pro-democracy community group ACORN under attack by right-wing racist conspiracy thugs and TLC gives John Goslein his walking papers."

[Mishiny]

"Up next at 11:00, local pro-democracy community group ACORN under attack by right-wing racist conspiracy thugs and TLC gives John Goslein his walking papers."
That's local Albany news. I would give you the play by play if I hadn't given up all the local stations. I can't even watch them in the mornings for the weather/traffic. I use weather.com to decide how to dress and am out the door after enjoying FoxNews in the morning. They really have a nice morning news show :)

[Nevarwinter]

That's what this is about. Actual voter fraud, not just the "harmless" voter registration fraud that is so harmless and just 490 rogue employees did it.

harmless.

[Mohawk5]

Who ever is against ACORN does not like minorities!

:rolleyes:

[Rurudyne]

That's what this is about. Actual voter fraud, not just the "harmless" voter registration fraud that is so harmless and just 490 rogue employees did it.

harmless.
Your Honor, if I was an Axe MURDERER my sentence might be justified; but, since I only am an attempted axe murderer I have been unfairly characterized by the prosecution and so I ask for a jury invalidation....

[Nevarwinter]

Your Honor, if I was an Axe MURDERER my sentence might be justified; but, since I only am an attempted axe murderer I have been unfairly characterized by the prosecution and so I ask for a jury invalidation....

That's scary because that's the exact justification the apologists are giving for ACORN's current issues.

[Rurudyne]

Yeppers.