Devastation in the Phlippines

[DLaw911]

My partner's family barely escaped before the flood waters reached their rooftops. They had to dodge floating cars, trees, refrigerators, trash dumsters and water up to 30 feet deep. They had to abandon their male and female mini pinschers and their 6 newborn pups, leaving them in a cage on top of a mattreess in an upstairs bedroom.

They returned to their home this morning. The water had risen above the roof and washed away all their possessions. They went upstairs expecting to find the 8 doggies all drowned but it was a miracle. The mattress had floated to a corner of the room and stuck in an air pocket and all the dogs survived. Despite losing everything they are so grateful that these tiny animals were spared.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFb96uuqPL4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcbTckGR-1o
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8276738.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXBThLvg1V0

[malnila]

My partner's family barely escaped before the flood waters reached their rooftops. They had to dodge floating cars, trees, refrigerators, trash dumsters and water up to 30 feet deep. They had to abandon their male and female mini pinschers and their 6 newborn pups, leaving them in a cage on top of a mattreess in an upstairs bedroom.

They returned to their home this morning. The water had risen above the roof and washed away all their possessions. They went upstairs expecting to find the 8 doggies all drowned but it was a miracle. The mattress had floated to a corner of the room and stuck in an air pocket and all the dogs survived. Despite losing everything they are so grateful that these tiny animals were spared.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFb96uuqPL4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcbTckGR-1o
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8276738.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXBThLvg1V0

How horrible. Tell your partner I'm thinking (and praying) for his family that they can recover relatively fast. Also thankful that they all came out of it alive including their beloved 4-legged family members.

[LouC]

My partner's family barely escaped before the flood waters reached their rooftops. They had to dodge floating cars, trees, refrigerators, trash dumsters and water up to 30 feet deep. They had to abandon their male and female mini pinschers and their 6 newborn pups, leaving them in a cage on top of a mattreess in an upstairs bedroom.

They returned to their home this morning. The water had risen above the roof and washed away all their possessions. They went upstairs expecting to find the 8 doggies all drowned but it was a miracle. The mattress had floated to a corner of the room and stuck in an air pocket and all the dogs survived. Despite losing everything they are so grateful that these tiny animals were spared.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFb96uuqPL4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcbTckGR-1o
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8276738.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXBThLvg1V0

Wow!!!!

Prayers for your partners family and all the others.

Glad to hear the pups pulled through.

[Ninjacorpse]

I am glad to hear they and their animals made it through in one piece.

[LouC]

This reminds me...

I was watching the Weather Channel this morning and some new or weekend guy I am not familiar with was on and doing the "Tropical Update" segment they do during our Hurricane season.

It really left me with mixed emotions because he was obviously disappointed that there was no real activity to report, he caught himself up several times in what he was about to say that would have given his disappointment completely away.

He finally ended the segment but not without a barely masked glimmer of hope for that October spike possibility he pointed out on his graphic.

I was ticked off that he was obviously saddened there were no hurricanes or even tropical storms, and I got angry at his barely hidden lament that the Storm names on the list he showed would go unused and still be available next year, the undercurrent of vitriol when he was explaining the wind shear that was keeping storms from forming was also irksome.

I was also amused by this display.

No hurricanes contradicts their whole Gorebal Warming paradigm they have embraced.

[bella-day]

Isn't it the truth Lou?

Dlaw,
Prayers for your partner's family and for his peace of mind. He must be beside himself with worry.

I'm glad to read that his parents are safe and that the dogs survived.

[DLaw911]

Isn't it the truth Lou?

Dlaw,
Prayers for your partner's family and for his peace of mind. He must be beside himself with worry.

I'm glad to read that his parents are safe and that the dogs survived.We're sending money. Drinkable water is scarce. Hospitals are filled, markets are either closed or washed away. Infections a real possibility. Filipinos are used to floods but nothing like this. No state of emergency was declared until it was too late. This was a case of neighbors getting together and stringing ropes together so people could pull their way to safety while trying to avoid being hit by large floating objects.

[Gabby]

How terrible for all the people who were hit by this. It's hard when something like this hits so close to home. Hope your partner's family pulls through quickly.

It's something how in all of the devistation a little ray of a miracle happened with the dogs and puppies.

[Dragon1963]

This reminds me...

I was watching the Weather Channel this morning and some new or weekend guy I am not familiar with was on and doing the "Tropical Update" segment they do during our Hurricane season.

It really left me with mixed emotions because he was obviously disappointed that there was no real activity to report, he caught himself up several times in what he was about to say that would have given his disappointment completely away.

He finally ended the segment but not without a barely masked glimmer of hope for that October spike possibility he pointed out on his graphic.

I was ticked off that he was obviously saddened there were no hurricanes or even tropical storms, and I got angry at his barely hidden lament that the Storm names on the list he showed would go unused and still be available next year, the undercurrent of vitriol when he was explaining the wind shear that was keeping storms from forming was also irksome.

I was also amused by this display.

No hurricanes contradicts their whole Gorebal Warming paradigm they have embraced.

You should got with the National Weather Service. I just checked their site out and they've got a link to the Japanese Meteorological Agency. Shows the Typhoon (TY 0916/Ketsana) hit and where its headed. On the map it looks like Vietnam.

Here's the link: http://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/

[Dragon1963]

My partner's family barely escaped before the flood waters reached their rooftops. They had to dodge floating cars, trees, refrigerators, trash dumsters and water up to 30 feet deep. They had to abandon their male and female mini pinschers and their 6 newborn pups, leaving them in a cage on top of a mattreess in an upstairs bedroom.

They returned to their home this morning. The water had risen above the roof and washed away all their possessions. They went upstairs expecting to find the 8 doggies all drowned but it was a miracle. The mattress had floated to a corner of the room and stuck in an air pocket and all the dogs survived. Despite losing everything they are so grateful that these tiny animals were spared.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFb96uuqPL4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcbTckGR-1o
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8276738.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXBThLvg1V0

Sorry to hear about your partner's family. Thanks for the heads up. I've got a couple of girlfriends who have family in that region of the Philippines. Guess I'll give them a call later.

[bella-day]

We're sending money. Drinkable water is scarce. Hospitals are filled, markets are either closed or washed away. Infections a real possibility. Filipinos are used to floods but nothing like this. No state of emergency was declared until it was too late. This was a case of neighbors getting together and stringing ropes together so people could pull their way to safety while trying to avoid being hit by large floating objects.

Here is another image of the devastation:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y231/calzero/as_philippines_flooding2.jpg

Things they will need and may not have access to:

Hand santizer (we used 2 gallons of the stuff post-Katrina)
Bleach

Even after their water service is restored it will most likely be less than safe for consumption or bathing. Bleach can help in so many ways.

I wonder if there is anyone taking donations of critical items to be sent to the area. I've heard of nothing like that here.

My daughter-in-law is from the island of Leyte. It looks like her parents were spared the brunt of this storm.

[super cool ski instructor]

Such a scary time. Prayers going out to all who are affected. Not just your partner's family, but you and your partner as well...it must be so hard to be on the other side of the world while this is happening to loved ones.

And I am so glad to know the pooches made it too.

[DLaw911]

Things they will need and may not have access to:

Hand santizer (we used 2 gallons of the stuff post-Katrina)
Bleach

Even after their water service is restored it will most likely be less than safe for consumption or bathing. Bleach can help in so many ways.

I wonder if there is anyone taking donations of critical items to be sent to the area. I've heard of nothing like that here.

My daughter-in-law is from the island of Leyte. It looks like her parents were spared the brunt of this storm.Having spent time in Manila and (adjacent) Quezon City the biggest memory I have is of small roads and huge traffic jams. I drove there and it was an experience I will never forget -- survival of the most aggressive drivers. Unfortunately when problems like this develop there are few ways other than walking to get away. I remember being there on Christmas Day 2000. I only had to drive one stinkin' mile and it took me nearly two hours. I should have walked. But that was a clear day and not one where walking meant wading in flowing water with appliances coming at your head.

[Dragon1963]

I'm wondering how bad things are out in the country side.

[DLaw911]

Amazing how the American news has only given lip service to the horrors in the Philippines following the typhoon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em-0AnAk87A

Most of the city of Manila is still under water. There is no food to buy. No clothing to buy. Hospitals are overflowed and are turning people away. Over 300,000 people are homeless and surviving with the dirty clothes on their backs. Disease is rampant. And there is no place to go because the roads are impassible.

But that god for American troops have have gone there to help the best they can:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLnpHXa0ZY8

[bella-day]

Why do you assume the Americans are giving nothing more than lip service?

In the little town I call home...the local Church of Christ and the Methodist Church are taking donations specifically for the survivors of the flooding in Manila. We also have a rather large Filipino population here that has come together as a community to conduct fund raisers.

Could it be that you feel we are only doing lip service because the progress is not coming fast enough?

The fact is...flooding of this magnitude is not something that someone can wave a money coated wand over and magically make all the damage and suffering go away. It takes more time and effort than most can even begin to imagine.

Don't under sell the generosity of the American public.

I wonder how much aid and assistance the Philippine government has offered the people of Manila through all of this.

If you are curious I can tell you just how much help and donations the Philippine government offered the people of the Gulf Coast region after Katrina...

[DLaw911]

Why do you assume the Americans are giving nothing more than lip service?

In the little town I call home...the local Church of Christ and the Methodist Church are taking donations specifically for the survivors of the flooding in Manila. We also have a rather large Filipino population here that has come together as a community to conduct fund raisers.

Could it be that you feel we are only doing lip service because the progress is not coming fast enough?

The fact is...flooding of this magnitude is not something that someone can wave a money coated wand over and magically make all the damage and suffering go away. It takes more time and effort than most can even begin to imagine.

Don't under sell the generosity of the American public.

I wonder how much aid and assistance the Philippine government has offered the people of Manila through all of this.

If you are curious I can tell you just how much help and donations the Philippine government offered the people of the Gulf Coast region after Katrina...I guess I am comparing it to the coverage of the tsunami's and recent earthquakes that are receiving 24/7 coverage on my TV. In the case of the Philippine disaster I heard about it as it was happening, not from the news, but from a cell phone call from a friend in Manilla who was on the waist deep in water and telling me he was trying to rescue my partners mother and sisters. I turned on the news and ONLY when the whether report came on was it mention in passing. I'm not trying to lay blame -- only an observation.

[F9thRet]

My partner's family barely escaped before the flood waters reached their rooftops. They had to dodge floating cars, trees, refrigerators, trash dumsters and water up to 30 feet deep. They had to abandon their male and female mini pinschers and their 6 newborn pups, leaving them in a cage on top of a mattreess in an upstairs bedroom.

They returned to their home this morning. The water had risen above the roof and washed away all their possessions. They went upstairs expecting to find the 8 doggies all drowned but it was a miracle. The mattress had floated to a corner of the room and stuck in an air pocket and all the dogs survived. Despite losing everything they are so grateful that these tiny animals were spared.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFb96uuqPL4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcbTckGR-1o
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8276738.stm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXBThLvg1V0

My son in law is from there, and still has family there. Hasn't heard a word from them yet even after all this time.

Stephen

[DLaw911]

My son in law is from there, and still has family there. Hasn't heard a word from them yet even after all this time.

StephenI'm getting more and more photos back every day. Taken with cell phones. I cannot post any of them since they show the dead. It is so sad seeing people covered with mud, no place to go, and more rain on the way!

I have lots of Filipino friends, many of whom want to go back to help out and cannot get flights. Others are there right now. The people getting assistance are those in the city center like Manila. Everywhere else the roads are impassible. I am very worried about the situation since the likelihood of disease increases daily. I thought sending money would help but -- not really. Stores are also washed out. The only thing going for them is that Filipinos are really tough people and flood are not unusual. That being said this was the flood or floods. Much worse than Katrina. At least with Katrina there was warning and many people chose not to leave town. Here there was little chance of getting out of dodge (I know from experience what it takes to go anyplace).

Also President Arroyo is getting the Bush treatment and being blamed for not upgrading the city's storm drain system.

http://www.saigon-gpdaily.com.vn/dataimages/original/2009/10/images169296_Philippines-9-09.jpg

By the way my friendship with Filipinos began with my mom's long time caregiver. She was with her and a loyal friend until the end. Filipinos have strong family ties and their culture does not tolerate sticking the old folks in nursing homes to be cared by others. They believe in dignity for all including the elderly. I met a lot of people through my mom's caregiver including my partner. The caregiver is now back in the Philippines and I am unable to reach her by phone!

[malnila]

Why do you assume the Americans are giving nothing more than lip service?

In the little town I call home...the local Church of Christ and the Methodist Church are taking donations specifically for the survivors of the flooding in Manila. We also have a rather large Filipino population here that has come together as a community to conduct fund raisers.

Could it be that you feel we are only doing lip service because the progress is not coming fast enough?

The fact is...flooding of this magnitude is not something that someone can wave a money coated wand over and magically make all the damage and suffering go away. It takes more time and effort than most can even begin to imagine.

Don't under sell the generosity of the American public.

I wonder how much aid and assistance the Philippine government has offered the people of Manila through all of this.

If you are curious I can tell you just how much help and donations the Philippine government offered the people of the Gulf Coast region after Katrina...

Bella, please don't get your panties in a bunch. I know not many helped during Katrina but there's also that world-wide perception (is this the right word?) that the U.S. has always been, "We take care of our own." Don't you remember back during 9/11 and someone here posted a story written by a Canadian about how proud Americans are and yes, we will rush aid as quickly as we can but we will also as quickly semi-refuse aid from other countries because that's the way we do things here (right or wrong)? And don't you remember that piece was written much earlier than 9/11? It's who we are and how we are. It's what makes us unique and what we've all fought for historically - be strong enough to help others and ourselves.

[bella-day]

Bella, please don't get your panties in a bunch. I know not many helped during Katrina but there's also that world-wide perception (is this the right word?) that the U.S. has always been, "We take care of our own." Don't you remember back during 9/11 and someone here posted a story written by a Canadian about how proud Americans are and yes, we will rush aid as quickly as we can but we will also as quickly semi-refuse aid from other countries because that's the way we do things here (right or wrong)? And don't you remember that piece was written much earlier than 9/11? It's who we are and how we are. It's what makes us unique and what we've all fought for historically - be strong enough to help others and ourselves.

My panties aren't in a bunch. I don't see where I've said anything that should have prompted that statement.

No, I don't remember the article to which you refer. I can tell you no aid was refused from the Philippine government post-Katrina...as no aid was offered...

I was just pointing out to DLaw that people are donating goods and money to the Philippine disaster while also pointing out that hard fact that recovery from such a disaster is not something that happens overnight.

Our government has sent aid over there...although...based on the comments made in the video he linked it is very apparent that the government officials in the Philippines are a bit busy looking a gift horse in the mouth to express anything more than contempt for the assistance received.

I do not understand how Dlaw can make the comment that Americans are paying lip service to this disaster and ignore that the Philippine government has not only been less than generous to their own people; it also has a track record of being even less generous when it comes to disasters in other regions of the world.

Maybe when the government officials in that country clean their act up and spend tax dollars on the citizens of the country instead of themselves things will change for the people of the Philippines.

[DLaw911]

........snipped....I do not understand how Dlaw can make the comment that Americans are paying lip service to this disaster.PLEEEEEEZE --- I was talking about the news and not about the American people. I watch and listen to the news and only heard one brief report about the disaster. That is all I am talking about.

[bella-day]

PLEEEEEEZE --- I was talking about the news and not about the American people. I watch and listen to the news and only heard one brief report about the disaster. That is all I am talking about.


No sense in getting so upset with me.

Our new agencies have the attention span of the average house fly. They report on a disaster until something they feel is more dramatic comes along. There have been some horrific natural disasters this past week. Tsunamis and earthquakes take the place of flooding brought on by a typhoon. It is a shame that the reporting agencies do not stop to consider the human toll in Manila and the fact that America does have a large population of Filipinos who are horribly worried about friends and family still living in the region.

When you first posted this thread, I searched to find out how the island of Leyte had weathered the storm. It was not information that was easy to find. I was very concerned for my daughter-in-law's family's safety. It was a great relief to discover that for the most part this cup passed them.

*Stephen,
I hope your son-in-law gets news regarding the safety of health of his family. It must be a overwhelmingly helpless feeling that he is experiencing right now. I wonder if the International Red Cross is taking names from people here in America of family and friends they fear maybe missing or dead. I know the American Red Cross did that after Katrina...it was how my son found out we were alive and relatively well following that disaster. It maybe worth a check.

Prayers for him, his family, and all the other people who have been touched by this disaster.

[dashvinny]

more very heavy rain as another typhoon hits.

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/wp200919_sat.html#a_topad

[bella-day]

I hope and pray that the government of the Phillipines had a way to warn the people who have endured so much over the last week of this storm.:cry:

Typhoon Parma lashes flooded Philippines (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33135385/ns/world_news-asiapacific/)

[nortman]

Have we gotten to the part where either 1) "Man" is to blame for this. Or 2) President Bush is to blame for it. Or 3) All of the above are to blame?

[bella-day]

Have we gotten to the part where either 1) "Man" is to blame for this. Or 2) President Bush is to blame for it. Or 3) All of the above are to blame?


None of the above.

It's got to be Rove.;)

[malnila]

I hope and pray that the government of the Phillipines had a way to warn the people who have endured so much over the last week of this storm.:cry:

Typhoon Parma lashes flooded Philippines (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33135385/ns/world_news-asiapacific/)

Sweetie, not everyone is as prepared as we are for emergencies and disasters PLUS I doubt the Phillipine government has remotely the financial resources we do. You know, folks keep trying to equate all countries with the values and resources of the U.S. and it just ain't so. Kinda like when someone goes to a foreign country and expects the same services that we have here...basically putting our values, etc. on a completely different culture.

[bella-day]

Sweetie, not everyone is as prepared as we are for emergencies and disasters PLUS I doubt the Phillipine government has remotely the financial resources we do. You know, folks keep trying to equate all countries with the values and resources of the U.S. and it just ain't so. Kinda like when someone goes to a foreign country and expects the same services that we have here...basically putting our values, etc. on a completely different culture.


I realize that Sweetie.

I also realize that the Philippine government is well known for its corruption. Maybe they can reel it in a bit so they can help the people that finance the government by way of their taxes.

Now whose panties are in a bunch again?;)

[malnila]

I realize that Sweetie.

I also realize that the Philippine government is well known for its corruption. Maybe they can reel it in a bit so they can help the people that finance the government by way of their taxes.

Now whose panties are in a bunch again?;)

Not yours...heard you don't wear any...;)

J/T - don't hurt me. :))

[bella-day]

Not yours...heard you don't wear any...;)

J/T - don't hurt me. :))


Ok, girlie...now we bring out the big guns.

http://www.politicalmedley.com/Smileys/default/catfight.gif

:))

[nortman]

Ok, girlie...now we bring out the big guns.

http://www.politicalmedley.com/Smileys/default/catfight.gif

:))

Cat Fight!!!!!!