South Carolina Mayor Rules On Police Foot Chases

[mgifford]

Mayor Peek has said "Officers will no longer be allowed to chase anyone on foot, let them go". That's weird! I just heard this Mayor interviewed on CNN, so I don't have all the information on the city & such. Can you imagine how many thieves will now move there to get free movement?

[Creefer]

So I could sucker punch a cop then just like fast walk away? LOL What kind of moron is this?

[mgifford]

So I could sucker punch a cop then just like fast walk away? LOL What kind of moron is this?

Apparently! I've chased many thieves & other criminals in my time, I've never heard of that.

[mgifford]

Too bad I live in a State which adjoins SC!

[WhiteHatBobby]

Stupid liberals. I wonder if this means bike and car chases against running criminals stays legal.

[Marijuana_MyAntiDrug]

"You got you a story, thank God! You are so sweet! You got you a story on a woman in Wellford! Hallelujah! I'm so proud of you," she told the reporter Friday, clapping.

Peake said she issued the order after the town had to pay workers compensation for an officer out of work several days for chasing a "guy who had some crack on him _ a piece of crack on him."

"There was no crime, no such thing as a crime," Peake said. "If he was breaking into somebody's house, to me that would be a crime, or if he was stealing something. ... I wish they would get whoever's selling it. Then that would be worth chasing somebody down for."


I heard the audio while i was in the car but can't seem to find it, you should hear her lol

http://www.timesanddemocrat.com/articles/2009/09/21/ap-state-sc/sc_no_chase_policy.txt (http://www.timesanddemocrat.com/articles/2009/09/21/ap-state-sc/sc_no_chase_policy.txt)

[mgifford]

"You got you a story, thank God! You are so sweet! You got you a story on a woman in Wellford! Hallelujah! I'm so proud of you," she told the reporter Friday, clapping.

Peake said she issued the order after the town had to pay workers compensation for an officer out of work several days for chasing a "guy who had some crack on him _ a piece of crack on him."

"There was no crime, no such thing as a crime," Peake said. "If he was breaking into somebody's house, to me that would be a crime, or if he was stealing something. ... I wish they would get whoever's selling it. Then that would be worth chasing somebody down for."


I heard the audio while i was in the car but can't seem to find it, you should hear her lol

http://www.timesanddemocrat.com/articles/2009/09/21/ap-state-sc/sc_no_chase_policy.txt (http://www.timesanddemocrat.com/articles/2009/09/21/ap-state-sc/sc_no_chase_policy.txt)

Peek a boo!

[Zanger]

Mayor Peek has said "Officers will no longer be allowed to chase anyone on foot, let them go". That's weird! I just heard this Mayor interviewed on CNN, so I don't have all the information on the city & such. Can you imagine how many thieves will now move there to get free movement?

Hilarious. A private individual is legally allowed to chase a perpetrator on foot for the rightful repossession of personal property, but I guess an officer of the law won't be, for any reason. LOL

[gdoane]

Maybe now when Cops say "Stop or I'll Shoot" now they'll actually open fire. Shot criminals are pretty easy to find.

[davetexas]

Maybe now when Cops say "Stop or I'll Shoot" now they'll actually open fire. Shot criminals are pretty easy to find.


If I started this thread some lib would say "whats your point?"

[Gunslinger]

How are you to enforce the law and catch the bad guys if you're reduced to basically a public service aid with a gun?

I got injured tackling a subject last month and had to go on workmans comp for a few weeks when my shoulder separated and dislocated.

My Mayor didn't release a memo about not being allowed to Tackle people though.

It's a high risk job they want us to do and then we get chastised for getting injured? That mayor probably shouldn't seek re-election.

[gdoane]

http://www2.wspa.com/spa/news/local/article/mayors_memo_may_handcuff_police_officers/26918

This dumb liberal ought to take her own advice when it comes to her re-election... DON'T RUN!!


There once was a Mayor named Sallie,
Who ordered the cops to all dally.
she's stopped all the chases,
so it's off to the races,
lets start up the fast felony rally!

[Apatriot]

http://www2.wspa.com/spa/news/local/article/mayors_memo_may_handcuff_police_officers/26918

This dumb liberal ought to take her own advice when it comes to her re-election... DON'T RUN!!


There once was a Mayor named Sallie,
Who ordered the cops to all dally.
she's stopped all the chases,
so it's off to the races,
lets start up the fast felony rally!

I think a physical fitness program for the officers (and driving lessons) would be in order, not banning chases.

[mgifford]

I think a physical fitness program for the officers (and driving lessons) would be in order, not banning chases.

Say what?

[jeepers]

Is this even legal for her to do?

She cannot make the law, she's just a mayor.

[gdoane]

Is this even legal for her to do?

She cannot make the law, she's just a mayor.

Law enforcement is tasked to the Executive Branch so her office is in charge of city law enforcement as a Mayor. Some cities are set up differently with an elected Chief of Police but it doesn't appear to be the case here.

[mgifford]

Is this even legal for her to do?

She cannot make the law, she's just a mayor.

No, she can't legally. There are State Laws & there are City Ordinances, all which are enacted by the "Legislature or City Council". However, check out the Mayor of SF. He's declared SF a "sanctuary city". He will not arrest any criminals, who are wanted by the law, or illegals & he gets away with it.

[Zanger]

Is this even legal for her to do?

She cannot make the law, she's just a mayor.

Actually, being that she's the mayor (part of the executive branch of government), she is ostensible in charge of the city's police force (also the executive branch of government), and therefore can instruct the police to carry out their duties however she likes (in reasonable fashion).

[sisyphus]

First they take away our guns, now this mayor is effectively taking away the local police...
Sounds to me like she is trying to create more of the 'victim class'.. ;):rolleyes::shifty:

[OldSchoolConservative]

Here is my $ .02

Just as state governments cannot interfere with the discharge of federal laws in the same fashion local municipal/county governments cannot interfere with the discharge of state laws. While it is true that the Mayor has directional control of the police force there is sort of a gray area in that local law enforcement officers are sworn to uphold the Constitution and state laws. As someone implied earlier mayors do have reasonable control over police forces in general but if an mayoral order such as this one cripples the law enforcement from reasonably upholding state laws and the Constitution than the Mayor is stepping out of jurisdiction. From what I understand the County Sheriff the town is in is basically appealing to state level authorities in reference to this matter. I don't know how it works in South Carolina but maybe the county sheriff and local DA should go in front of a judge and ask the judge to overturn this Mayors mandate because it basically is inconsistent with the ability of the officers to uphold state laws. I imagine their are state laws that mandate police forces for certain size towns that are incorporated.

[OldSchoolConservative]

No, she can't legally. There are State Laws & there are City Ordinances, all which are enacted by the "Legislature or City Council". However, check out the Mayor of SF. He's declared SF a "sanctuary city". He will not arrest any criminals, who are wanted by the law, or illegals & he gets away with it.

That is because the federal government for some reason will not crack down on sanctuary cities. But rest assured that if the feds wanted to they could stop these sanctuary city practices.

[Asfc1967]

First they take away our guns, now this mayor is effectively taking away the local police...
Sounds to me like she is trying to create more of the 'victim class'.. ;):rolleyes::shifty:


http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t16c011.htm


Ummm read article 6. You stop playing the "taking away my guns" victim. I have guns, I live in SC. I have a concealed carry permit.

[mgifford]

That is because the federal government for some reason will not crack down on sanctuary cities. But rest assured that if the feds wanted to they could stop these sanctuary city practices.

They will not do it tho!

[nortman]

Mayor Peek has said "Officers will no longer be allowed to chase anyone on foot, let them go". That's weird! I just heard this Mayor interviewed on CNN, so I don't have all the information on the city & such. Can you imagine how many thieves will now move there to get free movement?
I saw the interview with her on HNN as well. I only have one question. How the hell did she ever get elected?

[mgifford]

I saw the interview with her on HNN as well. I only have one question. How the hell did she ever get elected?

She's probably tight with Cynthia McKenney & Maxine Waters. There isn't a productive brain cell between all three.

[captusa]

http://www2.wspa.com/spa/news/local/article/mayors_memo_may_handcuff_police_officers/26918

This dumb liberal ought to take her own advice when it comes to her re-election... DON'T RUN!!
...............

What makes her a Liberal ?

[Apatriot]

Say what?


Officers are hurting themselves in foot chases. My guess is that a physical fitness program would reduce injuries (which is the reason the mayor said that chases have been banned). Also, several of the officers were injured in car accidents, hence the need for better driver training.

[EnchantedFrog]

Maybe the mayor owns the local gun store and this is her way to increase
sales of weapons for personal protection.

[neoINDIE]

If the people of that city are dumb enough to elect her, they are probably even dumber.

They get what they deserve.

Did you see the short yellow bus pull up in the background to take her home?

[neoINDIE]

Officers are hurting themselves in foot chases. My guess is that a physical fitness program would reduce injuries (which is the reason the mayor said that chases have been banned). Also, several of the officers were injured in car accidents, hence the need for better driver training.

So you have information that the officers that were hurt were out of shape?

[neoINDIE]

What makes her a Liberal ?

How much money would you put on it that she isn't?

I see a spot on Obama's staff for her in the future.....

[gdoane]

What makes her a Liberal ?

Watch the video and you'll see the sheer scorn for men in uniform. That's a liberal trait.

[JediMindTrick]

Officers are hurting themselves in foot chases. My guess is that a physical fitness program would reduce injuries (which is the reason the mayor said that chases have been banned). Also, several of the officers were injured in car accidents, hence the need for better driver training.

Last time I checked NFL players were in great shape, well except some of the fat lineman. Yet they get hurt all the time making tackles. Do you think a footchase is like flag football where you touch the guy and he gives up. No you tackle them, sometimes taser, and you go crashing to the ground with them. And sometimes you get hurt. An out of shape cop is actually much less likely to get hurt simply because they won't catch the guy in the first place.

[nortman]

Last time I checked NFL players were in great shape, well except some of the fat lineman. Yet they get hurt all the time making tackles. Do you think a footchase is like flag football where you touch the guy and he gives up. No you tackle them, sometimes taser, and you go crashing to the ground with them. And sometimes you get hurt. An out of shape cop is actually much less likely to get hurt simply because they won't catch the guy in the first place.
JEDI!!!!


Long time no read! Welcome back!

[WhiteHatBobby]

If this is a "weak mayor" system then the council, not the mayor, has control, and can override her.

[Backwoods]

What makes her a Liberal ?
Stupidity.

[gdoane]

Last time I checked NFL players were in great shape, well except some of the fat lineman. Yet they get hurt all the time making tackles. Do you think a footchase is like flag football where you touch the guy and he gives up. No you tackle them, sometimes taser, and you go crashing to the ground with them. And sometimes you get hurt. An out of shape cop is actually much less likely to get hurt simply because they won't catch the guy in the first place.

I'd think an out of shape cop would have more guys run. The whole perp mentality is based on opportunity and if they think they have an opportunity to outrun Officer Rotundo then they're gonna make a break for it.

That kind of ruins the deterrent effect of police presence if the cops are unfit for duty, I'd say.

[WhiteHatBobby]

Cops should quit eating doughnuts, drinking, and all of the bad stuff.

[Zanger]

Cops should quit eating doughnuts, drinking, and all of the bad stuff.

/snort.

Don't see many fat police where I live.

[captusa]

Stupidity.

Some Liberals are stupid and some Conservatives are stupider*.
Buchanan and Novak come to mind.
BTW The most brilliant pundit on either side was William Buckley.
*I know it should be more stupid.

[neoINDIE]

Cops should quit eating doughnuts, drinking, and all of the bad stuff.

Wanna race?

[JediMindTrick]

Cops should quit eating doughnuts, drinking, and all of the bad stuff.

WhiteHatBobby should quit giving into stereotypes based on TV perceptions.

By in large cops are in better shape than your average citizen. Oh for sure there are out of shape ones, there are at any given time 1,000,000 cops nationwide so naturally you'll always be able to find some, but overall they are in good shape.

[mgifford]

Watch the video and you'll see the sheer scorn for men in uniform. That's a liberal trait.

Yes it is!