Faith and Politics

[Ironhide]

For the record, I'm an agnostic Conservative.

With that said, and this can't be the first thread pointing this out(I'm a n00b, so up yours) ...

Right wingers typically have faith in God, as Left wingers typically have faith in Global Warming(for lack of a better comparison).

I'm hoping the statement in bold comes off as neutral. Naturally, I have a bias to my side ... but I ask the lefties, can you accept that analogy?

Since the hard left tends to not be a church goer, is that aspect of life carried over to something like Global Warming? Both are widely accepted, but only anecdotal evidence is available.

[Buschb]

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[spinach]

For the record, I'm an agnostic Conservative.

With that said, and this can't be the first thread pointing this out(I'm a n00b, so up yours) ...

Right wingers typically have faith in God, as Left wingers typically have faith in Global Warming(for lack of a better comparison).

I'm hoping the statement in bold comes off as neutral. Naturally, I have a bias to my side ... but I ask the lefties, can you accept that analogy?

Since the hard left tends to not be a church goer, is that aspect of life carried over to something like Global Warming? Both are widely accepted, but only anecdotal evidence is available.

bogus.
there is ample evidence of God. It is everywhere, so that not a single person has any excuse for not believing.

there is no evidence whatsoever of global warming
in fact the evidence points to cooling because of the sun's current status

what's more 'global warming' cannot reveal itself to anyone because it doesn't exist.
God can and does reveal Himself-- and the effect can be seen in those whom have their lives changed-

such as crack addicts, that come to the Lord and are INSTANTLY freed of addiction

[Justus]

I keep both separated, but my faith comes first of course...
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But I guess to keep on topic I'll post this:

http://pewresearch.org/assets/publications/1194-1.gif

And:

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1194/global-warming-belief-by-religion
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Obviously there's more faith in science by the atheists these days, not surprising... But what surprised me about the article was that only 47% believe in Man made and only 58% of those are atheists. :mrgreen:

[Ironhide]

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[Ironhide]

bogus.
there is ample evidence of God. It is everywhere, so that not a single person has any excuse for not believing.

there is no evidence whatsoever of global warming
in fact the evidence points to cooling because of the sun's current status

what's more 'global warming' cannot reveal itself to anyone because it doesn't exist.
God can and does reveal Himself-- and the effect can be seen in those whom have their lives changed-

such as crack addicts, that come to the Lord and are INSTANTLY freed of addiction

I must first say, you are the reason I joined this forum, and decided to not only lurk. Your posts really grabbed me, and I agree with basically everything you post(well, all that I am able to comprehend) ... and have really laughed at the daggers you have thrown in the way of liberals(sarcasm or not). Also, beautiful eulogy for Teddy Kennedy!

I just cannot see the evidence of God. My Mother has always told me ... "you will see it when you believe it". To this day, I have not.

I was raised in a Catholic household, but never baptised, nor have I ever been to church for anything but a wedding or funeral(non-practicing/apathetic parents). I have no kids, but if I do reproduce, I would like them to have a foundation of religion. I wouldn't say I regret the absence of God in my life, but it would have been nice to have had a fair opportunity to choose, after the foundation was built.

[TaylorW65]

Wow what a over generalization! I tend to be very liberal and very devoted to God and my faith. Don't paint with a broad brush!

[Ironhide]

Wow what a over generalization! I tend to be very liberal and very devoted to God and my faith. Don't paint with a broad brush!

Nevermind my use of the word "typical". :rolleyes:

[Justus]

Wow what a over generalization! I tend to be very liberal and very devoted to God and my faith. Don't paint with a broad brush!

I have several in my family that are very liberal and religious :cool:

At last look only 16% are atheists and 21% of America is liberal (6% very liberal).

:flag:

[Kelzan]

For the record, I'm an agnostic Conservative.

With that said, and this can't be the first thread pointing this out(I'm a n00b, so up yours) ...

Right wingers typically have faith in God, as Left wingers typically have faith in Global Warming(for lack of a better comparison).

I'm hoping the statement in bold comes off as neutral. Naturally, I have a bias to my side ... but I ask the lefties, can you accept that analogy?

Since the hard left tends to not be a church goer, is that aspect of life carried over to something like Global Warming? Both are widely accepted, but only anecdotal evidence is available.



I'm an Atheist Conservative. I have to say that although in general Conservatives tend to be more religious, many liberals have faith in a god as well. This is more a human mind set than simply a Conservative one.
I honestly don't know the extent of global warming and how much humans are to blame, but I do know that the left is using GW to pass a far-left agenda under the guise of 'saving the planet'.

[BryanC]

Since the hard left tends to not be a church goer, is that aspect of life carried over to something like Global Warming? Both are widely accepted, but only anecdotal evidence is available.

There are many different things in our lives that contain the symptoms of religion; global warming may be one such example, but there are many, many others. Read Talal Asad's Genealogies of Religion for a more thorough discourse.

[Physics Hunter]

For the record, I'm an agnostic Conservative.

With that said, and this can't be the first thread pointing this out(I'm a n00b, so up yours) ...

Right wingers typically have faith in God, as Left wingers typically have faith in Global Warming(for lack of a better comparison).

I'm hoping the statement in bold comes off as neutral. Naturally, I have a bias to my side ... but I ask the lefties, can you accept that analogy?

Since the hard left tends to not be a church goer, is that aspect of life carried over to something like Global Warming? Both are widely accepted, but only anecdotal evidence is available.

If you have been lurking that long you know where I stand...

I will take a God v. GlobalWarming anyday, especially since God is showing Al Gore the door with the lack of Solar activity.

But now we will have to listen to the Libs remind us that today's word is "Climate Change", tomorrows will be "Human pollution induced year without a summer"

I do not need to defend God, nor could I, but I hug the wall when he defends himself.

[political hack]

For the record, I'm an agnostic Conservative.

With that said, and this can't be the first thread pointing this out(I'm a n00b, so up yours) ...

Right wingers typically have faith in God, as Left wingers typically have faith in Global Warming(for lack of a better comparison).

I'm hoping the statement in bold comes off as neutral. Naturally, I have a bias to my side ... but I ask the lefties, can you accept that analogy?

Since the hard left tends to not be a church goer, is that aspect of life carried over to something like Global Warming? Both are widely accepted, but only anecdotal evidence is available.

If you think about it, if someone believes in Global Warming as a form of God they go to church every time they step outside. I think you might find saying that ecology or the Earth is the God of quite a few on the left.

[FOX Watcher]

bogus.
there is ample evidence of God. It is everywhere, so that not a single person has any excuse for not believing.

there is no evidence whatsoever of global warming
in fact the evidence points to cooling because of the sun's current status

what's more 'global warming' cannot reveal itself to anyone because it doesn't exist.
God can and does reveal Himself-- and the effect can be seen in those whom have their lives changed-

such as crack addicts, that come to the Lord and are INSTANTLY freed of addiction

I'm sorry, but what a crock. There is absolutely zero evidence that supports that the Christian God is the true Creator of the Universe. What we essentially had in a time when intelligence and communication was primitive, was Man guessing as to how the Universe was formed, and Man realizing the concept of social control through Fear of the Unknown. Thus the earliest form of politics was established ... thus being Organized Religion. And Man took some of his first steps towards becoming a civilized society through that Fear.

That is what people of Christian Faith can not stand. They want so badly to call you a "Non-Believer" or a "Sinner" by not accepting what they call "God", however in reality, there are many Gods to pick and choose from with zero shred of any evidence whatsoever that points to any of them being the correct one.

The most humble approach a person can take is by being Agnostic. It is safe to say that some type of Force created the Universe ... is it necessarily the Christian God, or was it something else? None of us will likely ever find out, as it wasn't meant for us to know.

[DLaw911]

....snipped......Since the hard left tends to not be a church goer, is that aspect of life carried over to something like Global Warming? Both are widely accepted, but only anecdotal evidence is available.It's possible one person might believe you. And I'm not that one.

[PaleoPaul]

I'm a paleo/libertarian...and I am a Christian...at least in the "faith" sense.

Not so much in the "fundy" sense anymore.

And I love the Lord...but I also respect the fact that we're all individuals whose freedoms should be respected. Leave us alone unless one of us infringes on another's liberties. THEN you can step in, govt.! Till then...

[Clintville]

bogus.
such as crack addicts, that come to the Lord and are INSTANTLY freed of addiction
That doesn't actually happen.

[blackmesa741]

bogus.
there is ample evidence of God. It is everywhere, so that not a single person has any excuse for not believing.

There is not one shred of "evidence" that one or more gods exist. That is, if you use facts and observations as your evidence....

[BigBear]

There is not one shred of "evidence" that one or more gods exist. That is, if you use facts and observations as your evidence....
It's a form of circular reasoning. If you believe in 'god' or anything like it, then all that you experience can be claimed as evidence to support that belief. If one has actually experienced what lies beyond the rational mind then you know, and you know that whatever it is, it isn't the rational depiction of the 'god' of the bible.

[Ninjacorpse]

I am to the right and I am an atheist, I share many values with Christians since i was raised by two very religious people.

[opsyscw]

I thought all Liberals had faith in a God, the one who calls himself Obama.

[BigBear]

I thought all Liberals had faith in a God, the one who calls himself Obama.
[edit] Sorry, that was a lame response to a lame post.