Obama: Legalize illegals to get them health care

[ConservativeGator]

President Obama said this week that his health care plan won't cover illegal immigrants, but argued that's all the more reason to legalize them and ensure they eventually do get coverage.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/18/obama-ties-immigration-to-health-care-battle/?source=newsletter_must-read-stories-today_photo_feature

[Debbie Shafer]

President Obama said this week that his health care plan won't cover illegal immigrants, but argued that's all the more reason to legalize them and ensure they eventually do get coverage.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/18/obama-ties-immigration-to-health-care-battle/?source=newsletter_must-read-stories-today_photo_feature
Legalizing illegal aliens is another plan to collapse the infrastructure of America's health care system. This administration knows exactly what will happen!

[nortman]

President Obama said this week that his health care plan won't cover illegal immigrants, but argued that's all the more reason to legalize them and ensure they eventually do get coverage.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/18/obama-ties-immigration-to-health-care-battle/?source=newsletter_must-read-stories-today_photo_feature

Is anyone really surprised by this?

[Paul Piche]

I didn't vote for Obama, but I would vote to impeach him. What about ILLEGAL immigrants does he not understand?

[ressurectedUltraSaiyanUSA]

Is anyone really surprised by this?

yes. i don't get it either...

if the same people had only been as passionate as they were before november 4 of last year, things could have turned out differently.

don't really see how obama and the democrats can be stopped at this point, short of an armed uprising. they will not waste their super-majority while they still have it and they will set everything up before next year's elections.

obama and the democrats continue to hold their ground on healthcare and I see no sign of them backing down and unyielding, despite heavy resistance. this is why i believe healthcare and amnesty will pass. on top of that, I still believe the democrats will retain their majority and obama will be re-elected. bookmark this thread.

[ressurectedUltraSaiyanUSA]

im telling everyone now:

before this year ends, there will be healthcare reform, and then amnesty, if not december, early next year. they definitely have to get to amnesty as soon as possible before the elections start next year and while they retain their super-majority.

[nortman]

im telling everyone now:

before this year ends, there will be healthcare reform, and then amnesty, if not december, early next year. they definitely have to get to amnesty as soon as possible before the elections start next year and while they retain their super-majority.
The part that really ****es me off about this is that we all KNOW that when these policies crash our economy, the Dems will blame the GOP for all of it....and the lamestream media will be right there helping them along.

[ressurectedUltraSaiyanUSA]

The part that really ****es me off about this is that we all KNOW that when these policies crash our economy, the Dems will blame the GOP for all of it....and the lamestream media will be right there helping them along.

yes. and it will be easier to do. the democrats and the MSM can simply attribute everything to racism, Bush failures, and the like.

as I keep mentioning, the last opportunity to have stopped all of this was not on 9/12/09... it was on 11/04/08.

[msny]

President Obama said this week that his health care plan won't cover illegal immigrants, but argued that's all the more reason to legalize them and ensure they eventually do get coverage.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/18/obama-ties-immigration-to-health-care-battle/?source=newsletter_must-read-stories-today_photo_feature

From that artical:

"Even though I do not believe we can extend coverage to those who are here illegally, I also don't simply believe we can simply ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken," Mr. Obama said Wednesday evening in a speech to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute. "That's why I strongly support making sure folks who are here legally have access to affordable, quality health insurance under this plan, just like everybody else.

Mr. Obama added, "If anything, this debate underscores the necessity of passing comprehensive immigration reform and resolving the issue of 12 million undocumented people living and working in this country once and for all."


Surely proves he lied to the American people before congress.
No doubt about it.

People have already expressed there concern over the illegals, now
Obama wants to push it along with healthcare also?

Hes totally lost it.

[Wino]

Déjà vu, Haven't we done this before!

[The Bos'un]

but the liberals, leftists, progressives, the news media, and 52% of American does not care. They support his idelogy....

[rhet 2]

Obama: legalilze illegals so he can register them to Vote Democrat without his ACORN mafia gang to steal elections for the Elitist Humanity Haters in the INequality Movement of Marxist Kill-Destroy Social Equity and Justice crowd.

He's right: our immigration system IS broken -- by the Social Slavers' refusal to actually enforce the laws instead of enslaving the illiterate and ignorant peones for their own profit-making luxurious do-nothing elitist lifestyles of the rich and hated.

[JerryN]

You just HAD to know this was coming next. Just another Teddy Kennedy legacy to fulfill.

What the Administration fails to remember is that the LEGAL Hispanic community is strongly opposed to 'Comprehensive Immigration Reform.'
It gives away for free what they struggled to accomplish on their own.

AND what leads the Dems to believe that all or even a majority of the 12-20 Million illegal aliens cum citizens will vote for them?
If they start sprinkling vote inducing bribes on this group, they will incur the wrath of other favored minorities.
Unions in particular are opposed to the cheap labor brought by the illegals.

Even if they can get some sort of amnesty enacted, its by no means a slam dunk for the Dems.

[Matthewobamahater]

I say deport them all and let the Mexican government take care of their people. Maybe those people need to improve their own country for once. Why on earth do liberals expect America to take care of people that are not our own?:rolleyes:

[ressurectedUltraSaiyanUSA]

You just HAD to know this was coming next. Just another Teddy Kennedy legacy to fulfill.

What the Administration fails to remember is that the LEGAL Hispanic community is strongly opposed to 'Comprehensive Immigration Reform.'
It gives away for free what they struggled to accomplish on their own.

AND what leads the Dems to believe that all or even a majority of the 12-20 Million illegal aliens cum citizens will vote for them?
If they start sprinkling vote inducing bribes on this group, they will incur the wrath of other favored minorities.
Unions in particular are opposed to the cheap labor brought by the illegals.

Even if they can get some sort of amnesty enacted, its by no means a slam dunk for the Dems.

nope. a huge percentage of latinos support and are in favor of amnesty for the filthy criminal illegals from mexico, cuba, el salvador, brazil, and others. "legal hispanic community" is an oxymoronic term :rolleyes: please...

also, unions and the environmental movement used to be at each other's throats. now they are working together as green jobs come up that would swell union ranks. same thing is happening in this situation. amnesty will well up the ranks of unions and they get to have their money.

anyway, healthcare and amnesty will happen. hussein obama and the dems are firmly standing their ground on healthcare and next move will be amnesty. mark my words, before the year ends, we get healthcare reform then if not december, early next year there will be amnesty.

[Big Dog]

President Obama said this week that his health care plan won't cover illegal immigrants, but argued that's all the more reason to legalize them and ensure they eventually do get coverage.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/sep/18/obama-ties-immigration-to-health-care-battle/?source=newsletter_must-read-stories-today_photo_feature

It's really the best way. Get their tax dollars into the system, get them on the public option and thus ease the strain on those who have to cover their ER visits already.

[smyrna]

He also said our immigration system is broken...who is in charge of that? :rolleyes:

[JerryN]

It's really the best way. Get their tax dollars into the system, get them on the public option and thus ease the strain on those who have to cover their ER visits already.

You're smoking some good stuff, Dog.
They will NOT just 'join up' like your typical naturalized citiizens do, or maybe in your fantasy they might.
They've already demonstrated disregard for several laws by crossing the border, falsifying documents to get a job, taking advantage of social programs, etc.

They comply just enough to get by. For example, they must have insurance to register a car.
So they buy the minimum the insurance company will allow, then make no more payments.
When the DMV mails the notice of registration suspension after the insurance expires, they don't live where they said.
When they have an accident, they run.

So what percent do you think will comply with any new laws? If they don't file taxes, how will you fine them?
Again, just fantasy based on extrapolation of YOUR value system.

They will STILL get treatment but they won't pay for it OR insurance.
Like Obama said, nothing will change.