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DRS
September 17th, 2009, 10:10 am
Time has an interesting article on Glenn Beck quite well written and it is too bad statements like this never make it here.
The inevitable question is, How much of this industry is sincere? Last year, shortly after the election, Beck spoke with TIME's Kate Pickert, and he didn't sound very scared back then. Of Obama's early personnel decisions, he said, "I think so far he's chosen wisely." Of his feelings about the President: "I am not an Obama fan, but I am a fan of our country ... He is my President, and we must have him succeed. If he fails, we all fail." Of the Democratic Party: "I don't know personally a single Democrat who is a dope-smoking hippie that wants to turn us into Soviet Russia." Of the civic duty to trust: "We've got to pull together, because we are facing dark, dark times. I don't trust a single weasel in Washington. I don't care what party they're from. But unless we trust each other, we're not going to make it."
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1924348-4,00.html
LouC
September 17th, 2009, 10:38 am
The inevitable question is, How much of this industry is sincere? Last year, shortly after the election, Beck spoke with TIME's Kate Pickert, and he didn't sound very scared back then....
Mind you this was an interview done with Beck before December 11th 2008, an awful lot of people have come into this Administration and an awful lot of dung has hit the fan as it were since way back then.
From the Kate Pickert interview:
What do you think of the people Obama has chosen to work in his Administration?
I think so far he's chosen wisely. I am not an Obama fan, but I am a fan of our country. The day after the election, I frankly ****ed off a lot of my real die-hard Republicans when I said, "He is my President. He is your President." We must have him succeed. If he fails, we all fail.
I really think that these parties have done a very good job of dividing us. I don't know personally a single Democrat who is a dope-smoking hippie that wants to turn us into Soviet Russia. I don't know a single Republican who wants to steal your children's schoolbooks, take the food away and give all of it to Big Oil. Those are cartoon characters. We are Americans. We've got to pull together because we are facing dark, dark times. I don't trust a single weasel in Washington; I don't care what party they're from. But unless we trust each other, we're not going to make it.
Kate Pickert Interview with Glenn Beck Click LINK (http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1865764,00.html)
DRS
September 17th, 2009, 10:41 am
If you read the whole article it is interesting in that basically he feeds into people's fears, the money he brings in feeding into this quite staggering.
I wonder how many here pay to have their fears fueled.
jeepers
September 17th, 2009, 11:30 am
You didn't read the whole thing.
'Who is left to listen?'
My answer to the author is, 'listen to whom?' The talking heads? The Op-Ed pages? The government? Each other?
And although he tried to write a balanced article, one is left with the idea that the only thing going on here is media led, yelling at each other. And that it's a play written by one person and sheep follow.
I watch Glenn from time to time, but no one is my personal Jesus. I'm sure that there are many of 'mes' out there who aren't sheep.
Because what that also says is that no one ever speaks only for themselves. Coudln't get riled unless we were riled up by a speaker. Can't come up with a problem unless someone 'smarter' or 'manipulative' brings it up.
Horse hockey. Even if talk radio didn't exist I would still be sitting here like a trout with my mouth open with all of the ****ing spending and spewing going on from the left.
Abso-freaking-lutely.
When a man offers aspirin, don't take the whole bottle. If Glenn is at issue, what does that say about Obama?
At least Glenn acknowledges that he's an entertainer.
DRS
September 17th, 2009, 11:53 am
At least Glenn acknowledges that he's an entertainer.
Problem is many people do not take them as entertainers
jeepers
September 17th, 2009, 11:54 am
Problem is many people do not take them as entertainers
You do realize that this applies to our dear leader too, don't you?
LouC
September 17th, 2009, 11:58 am
If you read the whole article it is interesting in that basically he feeds into people's fears, the money he brings in feeding into this quite staggering.
I wonder how many here pay to have their fears fueled.
Without that article, for some time, I have cautioned people to not accept Glenn's material without question and have been pointing out that he is good at reaching his target audience.
Still what he responded 9 months ago must be tempered with what has transpired since that point in time.
StoneScratcher
September 17th, 2009, 12:00 pm
Problem is many people do not take them as entertainers
Be sure to keep yourself entertained tonight after you tune into David Letterman.
mysticbeauty_nbeast
September 17th, 2009, 12:01 pm
You didn't read the whole thing.
'Who is left to listen?'
My answer to the author is, 'listen to whom?' The talking heads? The Op-Ed pages? The government? Each other?
And although he tried to write a balanced article, one is left with the idea that the only thing going on here is media led, yelling at each other. And that it's a play written by one person and sheep follow.
I watch Glenn from time to time, but no one is my personal Jesus. I'm sure that there are many of 'mes' out there who aren't sheep.
Because what that also says is that no one ever speaks only for themselves. Coudln't get riled unless we were riled up by a speaker. Can't come up with a problem unless someone 'smarter' or 'manipulative' brings it up.
Horse hockey. Even if talk radio didn't exist I would still be sitting here like a trout with my mouth open with all of the ****ing spending and spewing going on from the left.
Abso-freaking-lutely.
When a man offers aspirin, don't take the whole bottle. If Glenn is at issue, what does that say about Obama?
At least Glenn acknowledges that he's an entertainer.
:clap::clap: Exactly!
So much easier for many to point at Beck...(as they once did regularly at O'Reilly)..as the problem. I hear words like 'Fear-Mongering', or 'spreading Fear' when some speak about Beck. I think he's bombastic in his style...I believe he is bent on being overtly truthful...and I believe he offers a logical line of thinking based on stories of the day. He's stated over and over substance to ALL American's..dems and repubs...he's not against or for either group...he is for the truth..and will dig for it until he hits bottom.
Is he an oily savvy metrosexual using only PC tactics in his reporting?...No...that's not Glen. But that's part of what makes him so 'every-man'...it's why people listen to him...its' why he has become as popular as he is.
~Mysty
DRS
September 17th, 2009, 12:04 pm
Without that article, for some time, I have cautioned people to not accept Glenn's material without question and have been pointing out that he is good at reaching his target audience.
Still what he responded 9 months ago must be tempered with what has transpired since that point in time.
But heading into the election he was feeding his audience what they wanted to hear about Obama.
DRS
September 17th, 2009, 12:05 pm
Be sure to keep yourself entertained tonight after you tune into David Letterman.
Don't watch Letterman, that is when Colbert is on :D
mysticbeauty_nbeast
September 17th, 2009, 12:13 pm
But heading into the election he was feeding his audience what they wanted to hear about Obama.
Butting in here...forgive me please...
Telling his audience what they 'wanted' to hear about candidate Obama? Really? You believe that? He raised many questions about who Obama was in comparison to what Obama wanted to appear as.....Beck opened up discussion on Obama's past affiliations...organization...and community organizations vis a vie Acorn. (Now we've all heard the name Acorn by now..but how many of us knew what or who they were prior to Obama's election?)
I don't think Beck gave the country what it wanted to hear..if anything he gave them exactly what they didn't want to know! It's stirred the pot big time...didn't you hear? The media are to treat Obama as the darling of the age...untouchable..Beck broke that idea in half and sits on the pieces. That's how it's supposed to be...truly vetted and talked about. Beck is simply doing his job. If he were soooo of base..if he were telling twisted half truths..he's be off the air on Fox...as those types of jobs are only for MSNBC'er's (lol)
~Mysty
LouC
September 17th, 2009, 12:24 pm
But heading into the election he was feeding his audience what they wanted to hear about Obama.
I was around for the election.
Candidate Obama was feeding his audience pretty darn good as I remember.
Record breaking audience feeding as I remember.
Total Raised: $750,767,963
Bundlers: 606
Mega-Donors: 2,205
Lobbyist Bundlers: 17
Unemployed people literally taking $5 dollars here or $10 dollars there away from their paltry discretionary spending money and sending it in to help support candidate Obama.
Glenn was still at CNN then, I did not catch his show since it's time slot didn't work well with my schedule.
DRS
September 17th, 2009, 12:33 pm
Butting in here...forgive me please...
Telling his audience what they 'wanted' to hear about candidate Obama? Really? You believe that? He raised many questions about who Obama was in comparison to what Obama wanted to appear as.....Beck opened up discussion on Obama's past affiliations...organization...and community organizations vis a vie Acorn. (Now we've all heard the name Acorn by now..but how many of us knew what or who they were prior to Obama's election?)
I don't think Beck gave the country what it wanted to hear..if anything he gave them exactly what they didn't want to know! It's stirred the pot big time...didn't you hear? The media are to treat Obama as the darling of the age...untouchable..Beck broke that idea in half and sits on the pieces. That's how it's supposed to be...truly vetted and talked about. Beck is simply doing his job. If he were soooo of base..if he were telling twisted half truths..he's be off the air on Fox...as those types of jobs are only for MSNBC'er's (lol)
~Mysty
But does Beck and the others on the right examine those on the right as closely?
Did Al Franken and those on the left examine those on their side of the aisle as closely?
Or do both sides do what their audience wanted?
neoINDIE
September 17th, 2009, 12:33 pm
Isn't it funny how many people say Beck is just duping people, using scare tactics, using them for his own advancement...all while wearing an Obama T-shirt.
How ironic.
neoINDIE
September 17th, 2009, 12:35 pm
But does Beck and the others on the right examine those on the right as closely?
Did Al Franken and those on the left examine those on their side of the aisle as closely?
Or do both sides do what their audience wanted?
Beck is a lot more likely to go after Republicans than, say, Sean or Rush.
The left is just terrified of Beck now because he is exposing them to not just the right, but many in the center as well. Very damaging.
DRS
September 17th, 2009, 12:35 pm
I was around for the election.
Candidate Obama was feeding his audience pretty darn good as I remember.
Record breaking audience feeding as I remember.
Unemployed people literally taking $5 dollars here or $10 dollars there away from their paltry discretionary spending money and sending it in to help support candidate Obama.
Glenn was still at CNN then, I did not catch his show since it's time slot didn't work well with my schedule.
I remember Beck when he was on HNN, on HNN he was not as outrageous as he is now. As far as his tv persona.
But now you are comparing a poltiician to a radio entertainer, but at the end of the day they are night and day differences.
DRS
September 17th, 2009, 12:36 pm
Beck is a lot more likely to go after Republicans than, say, Sean or Rush.
The left is just terrified of Beck now because he is exposing them to not just the right, but many in the center as well. Very damaging.
Nah I think it is Beck is the new guy on top of the heap, I am sure there will be someone who will come along after him.
mysticbeauty_nbeast
September 17th, 2009, 12:44 pm
But does Beck and the others on the right examine those on the right as closely?
Let's focus on Beck..since the thread is more about him...and yes, he does look at the Right as closely as the left. It's brought him grief I'm sure. Like O'Reilly, Beck is a moderate centrist..as is most of America. Last's night show he spoke directly to this. As O'Reilly says all the time...'we're looking out for the folks'. That's not a political party..that's our nation they are speaking too.
Did Al Franken and those on the left examine those on their side of the aisle as closely?
Not from what I've seen the left media hasn't examined those on their side of the aisle. However, the Acorn story is slowly seeping into the left side media...so eventually it comes to the surface and is reported.
Or do both sides do what their audience wanted?
That's a tricky question. I believe a rare few simply tell the story..and then give their opinion on it; like Beck, like O'Reilly. Other's still are most certainly right winged...like our honored host, Sean Hannity. He makes no bones about what he is or what affiliation he is. On the left however, they don't outwardly state who or what they are...agenda riddled or not..they guise their reports as honest news stories. I have to give Beck, O'Reilly and Hannity their just due's in being up front and honest in who and what they are. . That makes them hated and hard targets for the left wing media.
As for audiences..the numbers tell the story. These Fox news persona's must be hitting the mark to have so many watch them. Not everyone who watches Beck is necessarily a repub...not everyone who watches him agrees with his opinions..but they all go away with something to chew on don't they?
~Mysty
jeepers
September 17th, 2009, 12:47 pm
But now you are comparing a poltiician to a radio entertainer, but at the end of the day they are night and day differences.
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That is one of the most naive sentences that I've seen on this site in a very long time.
LouC
September 17th, 2009, 12:53 pm
I remember Beck when he was on HNN, on HNN he was not as outrageous as he is now. As far as his tv persona.
Have you noticed how often President Obama is "on air" somewhere, daily, has five appearances on TV news programs this coming weekend, Letterman again, plus I think he does radio as well?
Have you missed his commercial promo spots he has been doing, the latest for George Lopez's new talk show.
He is an entertainer that gets to sign Bills into law and fly around on Air Force 1.
But now you are comparing a poltiician to a radio entertainer, but at the end of the day they are night and day differences.
"night and day"
Well that's just racist! :))
DRS
September 17th, 2009, 1:05 pm
Have you noticed how often President Obama is "on air" somewhere, daily, has five appearances on TV news programs this coming weekend, Letterman again, plus I think he does radio as well?
Have you missed his commercial promo spots he has been doing, the latest for George Lopez's new talk show.
He is an entertainer that gets to sign Bills into law and fly around on Air Force 1.
"night and day"
Well that's just racist! :))
Actually if you look through history leaders were on the air quite regularly when they were facing crisis or a big issue. Churchill is famous for his speeches.
LouC
September 17th, 2009, 1:37 pm
Actually if you look through history leaders were on the air quite regularly when they were facing crisis or a big issue. Churchill is famous for his speeches.
President Obama was once semi-famous for his speeches.
At least most people can still recognize lines from Winston Churchill's speeches.
I don't remember Winston Churchill ever doing commercial promos or talk-variety-comedy show appearances.
Regularly is vastly different than daily, or as many as five times in a day.
And we are not in any major crisis and the big issue of the day is all Obama forced.
If we are in a Churchill type crisis what in hell is this entertainer President doing going on Letterman?
What is this entertainer President doing making cameo appearances on George Lopez's show and filming commercial promo spots for George when we are allegedly faced with serious crisis or serious issues?
What is this entertainer President doing holding "town hall" Obama drummed up crisis pep rallies all over the country, Obama leading a cheer of "Fired up, Ready to Go!", and he didn't even have or yet has his own printed plan to get fired up about.
His 2012 Iowa campaign headquarters was already up and running before the 93rd day of his Presidency.
He isn't running the country, he is running for 2012, this entertainer President.
DRS
September 17th, 2009, 3:01 pm
I think when history looks back on Obama it is going to look at him as man changing with the times. One of the reasons Clinton was successful was he changed with the times.
He is elavating the games and knows he is in a propaganda battle he is learning from the mistakes of others and staking himself in what he is doing.