The time for racism talk is OVER.

[freedomboy]

We as Americans need to stop allowing all of this talk of racism to affect us and realize that we are being manipulated into giving away our country and our freedoms. I honestly don't believe that all of these people claiming 'racism' even believe it themselves. But they know that it's a great 'get out of jail free' card that will change any subject at any time. And it usually works.

I recently saw a blog posting from a liberal, reacting to a conservative post about how we are losing our country. The liberal was gloating about the fact that all a liberal has to do is claim racism and we stupid Americans stop in our tracks. This person went on to say "you have handed your country to us on a platter. I can't believe how stupid you are. We just cry racism, anti-semitism, etc. and watch you tie yourselves in knots. It's hilarious. And now the country belongs to us".

AS disgusted as I was with the response, I had to admit that this person was right. Americans are generally good people and the last thing we want is to be branded as something we're not. If someone calls us racists, we bend over backwards to prove them otherwise because the very thought of it repulses most of us. And we are so vigorous in the defense of ourselves that we don't even notice that the real issue at hand has been discarded by a wicked piece of sleight-of-hand. Those that habitually claim racism are like the kid on the playground that nobody wants to play with because they throw a tantrum when they lose a game or change the rules in the middle.

As for myself, I refuse to have race discussions anymore. I know who I am, and God knows who I am. I don't owe anyone the dignity of a response to false accusations. I hope that others will see this racism ruse for what it is...a crude tactic by those that would rather curse the darkness than turn on a light. The sooner we stop being distracted by racism the sooner we can deal with the real issues.

The next time you try to talk about an issue and someone plays the race card, turn and walk away. You don't have to justify yourself if you know who you are. Resist the urge to waste your time and breath convincing these people that you are a good person. These are screaming, misbehaving children and should be treated as such. As for me, the minute the race card is played the discussion is over. I've had it.

[angelicmadrigal]

The next time you try to talk about an issue and someone plays the race card, turn and walk away. You don't have to justify yourself if you know who you are. Resist the urge to waste your time and breath convincing these people that you are a good person. These are screaming, misbehaving children and should be treated as such. As for me, the minute the race card is played the discussion is over. I've had it.

I actually don't agree with that at all. Because for me there are still issues that ARE about race or ethnicity. However, it is often hard for some people to discern what is really racism and what is a false cry of it (which is more often the case). I am more than willing to listen to someone if they feel race is an issue, and then if it is acknowledge it, and if it isn't tell them they are full of ****. But I do not walk away from conversations. If someone and I disagree what happens is either 1) they learn to see things my way or 2) the argument continues until THEY give up.

[BillyBobUSA]

The left will never give up their trump card, and some Americans will never stop falling for it. In some part its because everyone that they trust as authorities in the media and/or college tells them that racism is still keeping the minorities down.

It is also in part because they have this intuition that where there is smoke there's fire, and with all the charges being tossed around about racism, some of it is probably true and thuhs it is still a problem.

Then there is this Moral Certitude by Self Hatred thing that plays into salving peoples psyche about what they finally see as an injust system of white oppression, though they may never admit to it.

But for the leftwing ideologues that push this garbage, it is about nothing but power and money as in the Ward Churchill case.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

The left will never give up their trump card, and some Americans will never stop falling for it. In some part its because everyone that they trust as authorities in the media and/or college tells them that racism is still keeping the minorities down.

It is also in part because they have this intuition that where there is smoke there's fire, and with all the charges being tossed around about racism, some of it is probably true and thuhs it is still a problem.

Then there is this Moral Certitude by Self Hatred thing that plays into salving peoples psyche about what they finally see as an injust system of white oppression, though they may never admit to it.

But for the leftwing ideologues that push this garbage, it is about nothing but power and money as in the Ward Churchill case.

I'd agree with that...

I'll add to it that point that if your a robber...really, the populace doesn't care what color you are..your still a robber/thief. If your a killer...the populace really doesn't care what color you are...just that your caught and off our streets. Same goes for pedophiles, rapist and other miscreants who perpetrate their type of filth upon the whole of society..society wants to know it's safe from said twisted individuals...and don't care a wit about what nationality or heritage they hail from.

Take it a step further...and look at this post high school generation. This gen is about 18 to 20...and they honestly don't understand the whole 'racism' term. If your a great person..then your a great person..if your a mean spirited/bad person...then your a bad person...color doesn't even hit the equation for them. people are being taken at face value by this generation...and in that, should be the death of any racism type trump cards in our very near future.

What will libs do then? Make up a whole new situation or keep some form of racism alive just so they have a tool in their tool bag to use against the American populace? Sad is what that is...very very sad imo.

~Mysty

[jonjen]

Okay, so if racism is merely a buzzword used as a weapon by those on the left, why did Glenn Beck accuse Obama of hating white people and white culture? Why did Rush make a big fuss about a black kid who beat up a white kid over a seat on the school bus, saying "this is what happens in Obama's America"? Is this not "playing the race card" in an accusatory, destructive way? What am I missing here?

[TonkaTim]

Okay, so if racism is merely a buzzword used as a weapon by those on the left, why did Glenn Beck accuse Obama of hating white people and white culture? Why did Rush make a big fuss about a black kid who beat up a white kid over a seat on the school bus, saying "this is what happens in Obama's America"? Is this not "playing the race card" in an accusatory, destructive way? What am I missing here?

Remember be it regardless of side those guys are entertainers wanting to increase ratings, be it Beck or Olbermann... If they are being sensational, it will be for shock value in attempt for ratings. It is in there best interests to keep an increasing loyal following.

Beck was on the wrong side and probably knows it due to the backlash. Can't comment on the Limbaugh thing since I am unfamiliar.

What really matters is how we feel overall as a people. I may be niave, but from all my friends & contacts, I do not see race as an issue. Obviously we've been having a slow news week since it has reverted back to an inane topic.

[Firebreather]

The left will never give up their trump card, and some Americans will never stop falling for it. In some part its because everyone that they trust as authorities in the media and/or college tells them that racism is still keeping the minorities down.

It is also in part because they have this intuition that where there is smoke there's fire, and with all the charges being tossed around about racism, some of it is probably true and thuhs it is still a problem.

Then there is this Moral Certitude by Self Hatred thing that plays into salving peoples psyche about what they finally see as an injust system of white oppression, though they may never admit to it.

But for the leftwing ideologues that push this garbage, it is about nothing but power and money as in the Ward Churchill case.

The tide is turning here, though you are correct in that there will always be a remnant of race-card playing fanatics.

Hang tough!

[Lisa4Catholics]

Okay, so if racism is merely a buzzword used as a weapon by those on the left, why did Glenn Beck accuse Obama of hating white people and white culture? Why did Rush make a big fuss about a black kid who beat up a white kid over a seat on the school bus, saying "this is what happens in Obama's America"? Is this not "playing the race card" in an accusatory, destructive way? What am I missing here?Jerimiah Wright, Van Jones and Obama described his grandma as a "typical white women" throwing her under the bus.:think: I do not think he is fond of whites.

[biggles53]

Don't be so naive.....

The minute you guys (I'm not from your country) rejoiced at, or bemoaned over, the "first black President in the history of the US", you introduced race into the discussion. That you are now embarassed that some of that race-based discussion has turned ugly should surely have been foreseen....?

[smyrna]

The fact that a black President was elected puts the nail in the coffin of racism. There is always a bad apple in every bunch...but the bunch can not be accused of racism with any credibility.

[camarozz]

the claims of racism have been played so much it has watered down the true racist attacks. So much so that many do not believe racism truely exists anymore, it is just a perception.

[Panhead0422]

Okay, so if racism is merely a buzzword used as a weapon by those on the left, why did Glenn Beck accuse Obama of hating white people and white culture? Why did Rush make a big fuss about a black kid who beat up a white kid over a seat on the school bus, saying "this is what happens in Obama's America"? Is this not "playing the race card" in an accusatory, destructive way? What am I missing here?

To some extent you are correct, it is playing a racial card. However, I believe that you will find that when there is a physical altercation between a "minority" race or other politically correct designator, the non minority person is more likely to be charged with a " hate crime" than the "minority" person is. When a white person attacks anybody that is considered a "Minority" or other protected politically correct entity, it is nearly certain that the "hate crime" legislation will be carefully checked to see how to apply it to that particular case if at all possible. If a minority person attacks a white person, screaming racial epithets and is filmed by a news crew in the act, the odds that that minority person will be charged with a "hate crime" are at best fifty percent. Of course, I will admit that it is possible that I am wrong about this.

[DLaw911]

...snipped....As for myself, I refuse to have race discussions anymore.So then why are you discussing race?

[DLaw911]

The fact that a black President was elected puts the nail in the coffin of racism. There is always a bad apple in every bunch...but the bunch can not be accused of racism with any credibility.IMO had be been truly black (i.e. black mother and father) his chances of winning would have been substantially less. By the way why do you call him "black." Why not "white." Are you one of those people who believes that everyone who is part black IS black? What percentage must a person be to be called "black?"

[biggles53]

The fact that a black President was elected puts the nail in the coffin of racism. There is always a bad apple in every bunch...but the bunch can not be accused of racism with any credibility.

How do you figure that...!?

Did EVERY citizen in your country vote? And, of those who did, were ALL their votes in favour of the elected person?

If either answer is 'no', then how can you say the "nail is in the coffin of racism".?? Can you guarantee that some of those who either didn't vote, or voted for the other guy, didn't do so on the basis of NOT wanting a black President..?

And, not to discredit President Obama's abilities, but after 8 years of enduring the worst President in US history, and being offered the alternative 'choice' for the most recent election, I think that a disabled, gay, black atheist could have won, as long as they WERE'NT from 'that' side of politics....!

[smyrna]

IMO had be been truly black (i.e. black mother and father) his chances of winning would have been substantially less. By the way why do you call him "black." Why not "white." Are you one of those people who believes that everyone who is part black IS black? What percentage must a person be to be called "black?"

...because of the subject we are discussing?

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

IMO had be been truly black (i.e. black mother and father) his chances of winning would have been substantially less. By the way why do you call him "black." Why not "white." Are you one of those people who believes that everyone who is part black IS black? What percentage must a person be to be called "black?"

Truly black? Is that like being truly English or truly German or truly Latino? :shifty::think: First and foremost, our President is American. What or where he hails from within his heritage is of no consequence..or shouldn't be...until Mr. Obama himself makes it a point to make it of consequence to insert some larger point in some argument over race.

BTW: Our President denotes himself as a 'Black Man'...and who am I to disagree with him? Wouldn't he know better then any of us what he thinks his race is?

And the proper term for our President would be 'mixed' race ..as he's both Anglo Saxon/Caucasian and African American. ;) So really...he's neither. But who are any of us to pick dog hairs ...if he thinks he's black..then he's black....right?

~Mysty

[angelicmadrigal]

And the proper term for our President would be 'mixed' race ..as he's both Anglo Saxon/Caucasian and African American. ;) So really...he's neither. But who are any of us to pick dog hairs ...if he thinks he's black..then he's black....right?

~Mysty

So if I thought I was black, then I'd be black?

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

So if I thought I was black, then I'd be black?

Oh tell me that was more tongue in cheek smart ass comment then an actual question...:hand:

Do you have have a black parent and a white parent? If so, then it would be up to you to choose to be designated as black or as white right? Silly question really...since it doesn't apply to any other nationality in our great Nation of mixed people...just African Americans.

If the President himself declares he's black..then gee..I guess he thinks and believes himself to be black or of African American descent. Who are any of us to argue with him? Are you gonna tell him he's wrong?..and that really he's more a white man then black? I don't think that would fly..do you? :naughty:

~Mysty

[sisyphus]

As long as there are officially protected '"minority" race or other politically correct entity', there will be charges and counter-charges of racism.
When certain persons are treated deferentially, just based on skin or creed, there will be resentment.