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StoneScratcher
September 10th, 2009, 10:02 am
For some reason, the tops of the trees, which usually turn yellow or orange or change with the cool season, are dry, burned, and blackish and curled.

The evergreens are bright yellow to yellow orange...at the tops and tips of high branches.

Not everywhere, but in miles-long stretches, also in my yard, and in my town.

I've been seeing it in Massachusetts and into Rhode Island.

Some trees "look" okay, but those which are "burned" have some leaves which have dropped (unusual that they are dropping too). And the dropped leaves look as if they were zapped and dried out, sucked of moisture, thin, blackish, crumbly, and NOT NORMAL.

Is this happening to you? What do you think it is? :think:

Also, ALL the tomoto plants I have are TOAST. And the little ping-pong sized tomatoes that were there now have black icky stuff inside them on their bottoms, like rot or something. All the leaves...actually, the leaves sort of look like the tree-leaves, but not as blackish.

I think it was DarkBlade who had mentioned potato blight this year getting to tomatoes...(it was on one of the seed threads in WP somewhere. Thank you DarkBlade for that info).

Could this be potato blight on trees?

XB70
September 10th, 2009, 10:12 am
I have not noticed this in N.E. Ohio.

However, in S.E. Ohio, the trees are loaded with bag worms.

Spiked101
September 10th, 2009, 11:38 am
We don't have it here in CA. Several years ago though up here in the mountains the Lodgepole pines were decimated by some worm that caused something similar to what you are describing.

StoneScratcher
September 10th, 2009, 12:49 pm
I have not noticed this in N.E. Ohio.

However, in S.E. Ohio, the trees are loaded with bag worms.

There were bagworms about a month ago here, but not too many that I saw.

Mostly on wild cherries.

StoneScratcher
September 10th, 2009, 12:50 pm
We don't have it here in CA. Several years ago though up here in the mountains the Lodgepole pines were decimated by some worm that caused something similar to what you are describing.

Maybe it's something like that, a worm or something. I'm heading into New Hampshire tomorrow morning, so I'll see what's going on there.

Samm
September 10th, 2009, 4:40 pm
Bush's fault - global warming.

NascarGirl2448
September 10th, 2009, 4:51 pm
I'm not seeing it down here in North Carolina. Our trees are starting to turn, and my tomato plants are still giving plenty of the little cherry tomatoes, and the roses in my front yard are doing great.

LouC
September 10th, 2009, 5:28 pm
I did a brief look see online and there was some similar talk from a few people in your neck of the woods they were having with their red maples.

A tree person after having previewed pictures posted thought there was a black mold and a scale problem.

Unfortunately I had to log off and didn't get the link saved, sorry.

LouC
September 10th, 2009, 5:42 pm
http://www.plantpath.iastate.edu/pdc/node/71

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/3000/3046.html

http://www.plantclinic.cornell.edu/FactSheets/sooty/sootymold.htm

Any of that look like what you are seeing?

StoneScratcher
September 12th, 2009, 8:12 am
http://www.plantpath.iastate.edu/pdc/node/71

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/3000/3046.html

http://www.plantclinic.cornell.edu/FactSheets/sooty/sootymold.htm

Any of that look like what you are seeing?


WOW! You're good! The second one looks like some of the leaves, and some have more darkness, blackness and a crispy dry burn (in black).

I couldn't get to NH this weekend (the person who was going to watch the house and pets is ill)...but I want to see if it's in NH too.

I'm going to go to a nursery, maybe I can get there this week, and bring the dropped leaves and ask there. But something tells me you nailed it!

Weird! I never saw this before...EVER. Strange year, this year!

Thanks so much Lou! You're awesome! http://forums.hannity.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

StoneScratcher
September 12th, 2009, 8:15 am
bush's fault - global warming.

lol!

StoneScratcher
September 12th, 2009, 8:20 am
I'm not seeing it down here in North Carolina. Our trees are starting to turn, and my tomato plants are still giving plenty of the little cherry tomatoes, and the roses in my front yard are doing great.

Lucky you! I brought a tomato in and put it on the counter near a window to see if it would ripen on its own...it turned into a gross tumor-looking blob. :eek: Really that bad.

There are wild grapes in the yard, and not one of them made any fruit this year. What a horrible year. There is only one thing that is on the grapes--a beautiful full black caterpillar, about three inches long, with five yellow dots on each side, it looks like a Ninja, lol. It's eating the grape leaves. I'm trying to figure out what kind of caterpillar it is. Never saw that type before. Lots of wooly bear caterpillars (that's what we call them).

Well enjoy your harvest and roses! I think, here, I'm living in some kind of science project from all the weird stuff that has happened this year with constant rain then blazing heat wave to rain again. Lots of Indian Pipes too--loads popping up everywhere! (Whitish, ghostly looking pipe-like spouts that pop up from deep underground).

Edited to add, I just solved the caterpillar mystery! It's a Sphinx Moth. Go figure, I'm into that Egyptian symbolism, lol. The one on my grape leaves is jet black. I'm going to take a picture of it today.

http://www.silkmoths.bizland.com/epandoru.htm

waynevan
September 12th, 2009, 9:08 am
For some reason, the tops of the trees, which usually turn yellow or orange or change with the cool season, are dry, burned, and blackish and curled.

The evergreens are bright yellow to yellow orange...at the tops and tips of high branches.

Not everywhere, but in miles-long stretches, also in my yard, and in my town.

I've been seeing it in Massachusetts and into Rhode Island.

Some trees "look" okay, but those which are "burned" have some leaves which have dropped (unusual that they are dropping too). And the dropped leaves look as if they were zapped and dried out, sucked of moisture, thin, blackish, crumbly, and NOT NORMAL.

Is this happening to you? What do you think it is? :think:

Also, ALL the tomoto plants I have are TOAST. And the little ping-pong sized tomatoes that were there now have black icky stuff inside them on their bottoms, like rot or something. All the leaves...actually, the leaves sort of look like the tree-leaves, but not as blackish.

I think it was DarkBlade who had mentioned potato blight this year getting to tomatoes...(it was on one of the seed threads in WP somewhere. Thank you DarkBlade for that info).

Could this be potato blight on trees?

I suspect too much rain.

LouC
September 12th, 2009, 10:12 am
WOW! You're good! The second one looks like some of the leaves, and some have more darkness, blackness and a crispy dry burn (in black).

I couldn't get to NH this weekend (the person who was going to watch the house and pets is ill)...but I want to see if it's in NH too.

I'm going to go to a nursery, maybe I can get there this week, and bring the dropped leaves and ask there. But something tells me you nailed it!

Weird! I never saw this before...EVER. Strange year, this year!

Thanks so much Lou! You're awesome! http://forums.hannity.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Thanks

Glad to be of help.

I have seen this stuff before, multiple times.

It is nasty stuff.

LouC
September 12th, 2009, 10:13 am
I suspect too much rain.

Yes that is a contributor.

StoneScratcher
September 12th, 2009, 11:02 am
I suspect too much rain.

We had a lot of rain, mushrooms the size of dinner plates, and moss growing everywhere!

StoneScratcher
September 12th, 2009, 11:03 am
Thanks

Glad to be of help.

I have seen this stuff before, multiple times.

It is nasty stuff.

Thanks again. I never saw it before. It is nasty. I wonder if the leaves changing color will be affected...I suppose it will.

LouC
September 12th, 2009, 11:23 am
Thanks again. I never saw it before. It is nasty. I wonder if the leaves changing color will be affected...I suppose it will.

Very well could happen.

I have seen it go both ways, where unusual damp conditions affect the fall foliage and where the drought conditions just turned the leaves in an area to a nondescript brown color.

Mushrooms, toadstools (fungi) are an excellent indicator of perfect conditions for mold type propagation among other plants or trees.

malnila
September 12th, 2009, 3:16 pm
Very well could happen.

I have seen it go both ways, where unusual damp conditions affect the fall foliage and where the drought conditions just turned the leaves in an area to a nondescript brown color.

Mushrooms, toadstools (fungi) are an excellent indicator of perfect conditions for mold type propagation among other plants or trees.

So this could be what's wrong with our tomato plant too? We watered too much so it's "moldy or it got potato blight thingy?" It looks dead but keeps producing tiny little tomatoes that don't get very big but are good anyway.

waynevan
September 13th, 2009, 11:24 am
So this could be what's wrong with our tomato plant too? We watered too much so it's "moldy or it got potato blight thingy?" It looks dead but keeps producing tiny little tomatoes that don't get very big but are good anyway.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/286560/how_to_treat_tomato_blight.html?cat=32

malnila
September 13th, 2009, 5:14 pm
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/286560/how_to_treat_tomato_blight.html?cat=32

Oh wow.....Thanks so much. That's exactly what's happened - fuzzy smallish black spots. Thankfully the tomato plant is in a planter on our patio so we'll just throw it out (soil included), get fresh and a new plant.

blackcatrun
September 13th, 2009, 5:43 pm
Oh wow.....Thanks so much. That's exactly what's happened - fuzzy smallish black spots. Thankfully the tomato plant is in a planter on our patio so we'll just throw it out (soil included), get fresh and a new plant.

Yeah it's a goner. So it wont happen again.
Take some bleach mix it with water mist the plant. 10W/1B
Spray plant and soil as well then rinse with by misting with plain water after treatment.. let dry out before watering again.

It wont kill every spore but it's effective enough to stop the mold growth {IE:blight} and save the plant.

blackcatrun
September 13th, 2009, 5:54 pm
WOW! You're good! The second one looks like some of the leaves, and some have more darkness, blackness and a crispy dry burn (in black).

I couldn't get to NH this weekend (the person who was going to watch the house and pets is ill)...but I want to see if it's in NH too.

I'm going to go to a nursery, maybe I can get there this week, and bring the dropped leaves and ask there. But something tells me you nailed it!

Weird! I never saw this before...EVER. Strange year, this year!

Thanks so much Lou! You're awesome! http://forums.hannity.com/images/icons/icon7.gif


Get this Maine experianced something a few years back that was killing pines and a lot of soft woods near roads and a lot of well traveled rural roads. The innerstate 95 was orange from the dead trees for miles and miles and miles! The state said it was salt. Some one didnt buy that explaination at all did alot of research to find it was MTBH and MTB gas additives killing pines and some softwoods. They spent a lot of money cutting down millions of dead trees.

malnila
September 14th, 2009, 12:18 am
Yeah it's a goner. So it wont happen again.
Take some bleach mix it with water mist the plant. 10W/1B
Spray plant and soil as well then rinse with by misting with plain water after treatment.. let dry out before watering again.

It wont kill every spore but it's effective enough to stop the mold growth {IE:blight} and save the plant.

Thanks for the advice but the plant is too far gone to save. There are still green tomatoes on it but the leaves are all about gone. We'll just start over with a new tomato plant. Home Depot is almost literally across the street.