Democrats Heckled Bush During 2005 State of the Union Address

[Iggy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4228927.stm

Throughout the 53-minute speech, many of the president's points were met with loud applause and standing ovations.

But the first half of Mr Bush's speech focused on domestic policy - and this is where he received loud heckles from some members of Congress.

He spoke in detail about his plans for younger workers to divert some of their taxes into personal investment accounts to ensure they receive a pension when they retire.

Responding to Mr Bush's speech, Senate minority leader Harry Reid said the plan for social security was "dangerous" because it would add to national debt.

"That's an immoral burden to place on the backs of the next generation," he added. I guess it's okay for Democrats to heckle the President, but not Republicans.


Side note: I didn't snip out Reid's comments on Bush raising the debt because its funny as hell and does a fine job of showcasing the *******'s hypocricy.

[UK Glenmont]

good memory!

i had forgotten about that

[Mohawk5]

Who didn't know this would get dug up?!

Great work Ig!

[Iggy]

Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBxmEGG71PM

[Iggy]

I guess it was only a big deal last night because someone dared to offend the One.

[Mojotiger]

That's different.

[mkh]

No. Not ok to heckle the president.

[johnrocks]

Yeah, it's partisan bs as usual for them, my only concern with Rep. Wilson is, it could hurt him politically, other than that, he's th man!

[UK Glenmont]

No. Not ok to heckle the president.

pretty much, i didnt like it then, and i dont like it now.

[Buffalo]

So who won last night, the blues or the reds? I missed the game.

[mkh]

So who won last night, the blues or the reds? I missed the game.

Twins won :D still 5.5 games back though :(

[johnrocks]

So who won last night, the blues or the reds? I missed the game.

I think Obama will get a bounce and that something will pass. Brace yourselves for the approaching foot in the ass.

[UK Glenmont]

So who won last night, the blues or the reds? I missed the game.

the american people LOSE every time this guy opens his mouth:(

[ModerateVoice]

Was Pelosi one of the hecklers?

I'm still chuckling over the "stink eye" she shot at the guy who yelled "Lie!".....then watching her drag out her little seating chart.

[Iggy]

pretty much, i didnt like it then, and i dont like it now.
Thats good. You and MKH are consistent. Its just that, in the next few days, we're going to be seeing the media go on and on about how someone heckling the President is unheard of and disrespectful. I have to point out that both sides do it for the sake of balance.

[ValricoKate]

And the State of The Union as well ...not just some free political ad posing as a non-partisan speech?

Geez.

[Buffalo]

Twins won :D still 5.5 games back though :(
Awesome! Go Tigers.

[UK Glenmont]

Twins won :D still 5.5 games back though :(

they need to play the tribe more!

we have our whole AAA team playing in cleveland right now:(

EDIT: why do i always feel like DB COOPER? sorry for the hijack:(

[betwixt]

So who won last night, the blues or the reds? I missed the game.

Lol, good comparrison Buffalo, it feels like were watching a game...

[Always Independent]

Republicans, if they ever found their collective nut sacks, should ignore the inevitable onslaught of nutrootery that is sure to come following the bravery of Joe Wilson.

Instead, you should flip the script on these hippiecrites, play dumb like they do, be facetious, use subterfuge, and then get all uppity and emotionally exclaim to all of their manufactured rage with a simple response: "What are you talking about? Why are you getting upset about a 4 year old speech?" Then slam them over the head with the facts of their partys leaders past behavior all the while meeting all of their faux and manufactured outrage with the same line as they would. This is very similar to how they operate, don't worry though, it shouldn't turn you into a lib.

[nunyadb]

Was Pelosi one of the hecklers?

I'm still chuckling over the "stink eye" she shot at the guy who yelled "Lie!".....then watching her drag out her little seating chart.

Yeah, I think he can expect a "visit" from O's "blue shirts" sometime
in the near future.

Be prepared for a page 5 story about an "unidentified man run over by truck"
followed by an I.D. on page 10 4 days later stating it was Joe Wilson.

[ValricoKate]

Was Pelosi one of the hecklers?

I'm still chuckling over the "stink eye" she shot at the guy who yelled "Lie!".....then watching her drag out her little seating chart.

:lol:

At that moment you were extremely aware that she had had a Catholic School Education in her youth ....albeit many, many, many, many, moons ago ...some lessons just stick.

[mkh]

Awesome! Go Tigers.

Oh no you didn't :evil:

Straight to the death panel for you

[mkh]

Outside of the heckler my biggest complaint last night was Pelosi. Sweet jesus sit your butt down for 5 seconds and let the man talk.

[scootr29]

Yeah, it's partisan bs as usual for them, my only concern with Rep. Wilson is, it could hurt him politically, other than that, he's th man!

It will not hurt him in SC.....I bet he got a huge boost in donations last night.

The media will warp it...but he is a hero to a lot of people this morning....

[ValricoKate]

Outside of the heckler my biggest complaint last night was Pelosi. Sweet jesus sit your butt down for 5 seconds and let the man talk.

She should really floss before these speeches ...the way she was sucking her teeth was really distracting ...looked like she was trying to work a piece of gristle out ....NASTY.

[Iggy]

She should really floss before these speeches ...the way she was sucking her teeth was really distracting ...looked like she was trying to work a piece of gristle out ....NASTY.Some botox was oozing out of one of the folds on the inside of her cheek.

[tjkamp]

Why do you guys keep bringing up Boooooosh?? He hasn't even been President for months.

[Always Independent]

Just a few thoughts:

How come the Whitehouse can't be transparent about it's health care plan? You know, the specifics?

They are rationing health care reform meetings. Why would they not ration health care?

H.ussein O.bama couldn't even resolve the controversy around his Senate seat. Why would he be able to do any better with Obamacare or the Nation for that matter?

[ValricoKate]

Some botox was oozing out of one of the folds on the inside of her cheek.

:lol:

She really looked like she could have had a starring role in "Death becomes Her" last night.

You can only hide from the timekeeper for so long ...

[witze]

His opponent received $75,000 in campaign donations from around the country within 30 minutes after the speech.

[witze]

boorishness must resonate with morons

[Sknyluv]

It wasn't acceptable then and it isn't acceptable now. The media will get more run out of this because you're able to pinpoint one individual doing the heckling and you're able to hear him clearly.

[ValricoKate]

Just a few thoughts:

How come the Whitehouse can't be transparent about it's health care plan? You know, the specifics?

They are rationing health care reform meetings. Why would they not ration health care?

H.ussein O.bama couldn't even resolve the controversy around his Senate seat. Why would he be able to do any better with Obamacare or the Nation for that matter?

Yeah ...I'm waiting for the legislative proposal as well.
Because what he was talking about last night in no way, shape or form resembled what has gone through committee.

What is the BILL NUMBER of the "PLAN"?

[Charles Xavier]

It will not hurt him in SC.....I bet he got a huge boost in donations last night....

I'll bet his opponent did also. Hopefully twice as much.

[Iggy]

boorishness must resonate with morons

Yeah, the libs really ate it up when those Dems were booing Bush.

[johnrocks]

It will not hurt him in SC.....I bet he got a huge boost in donations last night.

The media will warp it...but he is a hero to a lot of people this morning....

That's good to know. More need to fight back, this being the way,we'll see. It seems to work in Britain's Parliament:lol:

[Jabbamagnus]

Thanks Iggy! I was looking for this last night and couldn't find it.

[Kelzan]

It wasn't acceptable then and it isn't acceptable now. The media will get more run out of this because you're able to pinpoint one individual doing the heckling and you're able to hear him clearly.

The media would never go after a Dem for doing this to a Republican President even if they were to pinpoint him.

[gb2004]

I guess it was only a big deal last night because someone dared to offend the One.

You don't contradict Dear Leader!!

[margaretms]

Republicans, if they ever found their collective nut sacks, should ignore the inevitable onslaught of nutrootery that is sure to come following the bravery of Joe Wilson.


I thought that's why so many were waving those tea bags around a while back.

[Libstomper]

I can't see the video...were any of the "heckles" audible?

[margaretms]

The media would never go after a Dem for doing this to a Republican President even if they were to pinpoint him.

Some showy, partisan hooting and harumphing and scowling and even booing en masse seems fine to me--whether directed at a Democrat or Republican. It seems part of a recognizable tradition; the President--like the PM in the UK--ain't no king and there's an element of theater to these events.

But if a solitary Democratic official yelled out loudly and distinctly, "You lie!" at a President during such an address in similar circumstances, it would be worthy of notice, for sure. It seems different to me--in a way similar to the way that calling fellow posters around here "liars" is frowned upon, if not taboo. In any case, Wilson's attempted non-point was not worth the incivility or personal hostility. But I don't like the way he backed off it, either.

[Dacarlo]

I can't see the video...were any of the "heckles" audible?

Very audible.

[ModerateVoice]

Frankly its AWESOME that the left is now obsessing over the Joe Wilson comment. Its deflects from their own intention to bolster support for socialized health care & further serves to alienate independents from the spiteful factions of the Left.

[Libstomper]

Some showy, partisan hooting and harumphing and scowling and even booing en mass seems fine to me--whether directed at a Democrat or Republican. It seems part of a recognizable tradition; the President--like the PM in the UK--ain't no king and there's an element of theater to these events.

But if a solitary Democratic official yelled out loudly and distinctly, "You lie!" at a President during such an address in similar circumstances, we'd know about it. It seems different to me--in a way similar to the way that calling fellow posters around here "liars" is frowned upon, if not taboo. In any case, Wilson's attempted non-point was not worth the incivility or personal hostility. But I don't like the way he backed off it, either.

I think it was a put up job. All of his Republican friends told him they were going to do it too, and didn't to make him look like a jerk. You know, like when everyone tells you the party you're going to is a costume party, but nobody else is wearing one when you get there--so you're stuck dressed as Grimus from the McDonalds gang, and everyone else is business casual.




What, that hasn't happened to any of you?

[Libstomper]

Very audible.

What I mean is can you make out what they are saying?

[margaretms]

I think it was a put up job. All of his Republican friends told him they were going to do it too, and didn't to make him look like a jerk. You know, like when everyone tells you the party you're going to is a costume party, but nobody else is wearing one when you get there--so you're stuck dressed as Grimus from the McDonalds gang, and everyone else is business casual.

What, that hasn't happened to any of you?

:)

[Darkscream]

What I mean is can you make out what they are saying?



No.....it's mainly booing.

[Sknyluv]

What I mean is can you make out what they are saying?

Not really. Which is why I think the media is running with the Wilson thing more ... you could clearly hear what was said and pinpoint the perpetrator. When it's a group of morons shouting (in the case of the dems) you really can't put a face on it.

[spinach]

Frankly its AWESOME that the left is now obsessing over the Joe Wilson comment. Its deflects from their own intention to bolster support for socialized health care & further serves to alienate independents from the spiteful factions of the Left.


exactly.
And I think this may have been planned by the GOP.
Notice how quick the guy apologized?
it insulated him from any "fallout".

and even so, what he said is out there.....and it's TRUE.
Which means he had his cake and ate it too.

:))

[Kelzan]

Not really. Which is why I think the media is running with the Wilson thing more ... you could clearly hear what was said and pinpoint the perpetrator. When it's a group of morons shouting (in the case of the dems) you really can't put a face on it.

They're running the Wilson thing more because he's a Republican.

[DRS]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4228927.stm

I guess it's okay for Democrats to heckle the President, but not Republicans.


Side note: I didn't snip out Reid's comments on Bush raising the debt because its funny as hell and does a fine job of showcasing the *******'s hypocricy.

If it was the speech I remember they acted like idiots.

It is too bad that those in Washington are starting to act like children more and more.

[Darkscream]

Frankly its AWESOME that the left is now obsessing over the Joe Wilson comment. Its deflects from their own intention to bolster support for socialized health care & further serves to alienate independents from the spiteful factions of the Left.



Um - the left is obsessing ?
In a thread about how poor bushy was boooed ?

[cj234]

Hillary with cocky smile rolling her eyes!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdgK1gSg-o0

"Hillary Clinton sarcastically smiles and rolls her eyes after President Bush gives a line about the US not getting hit again by a terrorist attack. MANY MANY seconds later the camera pans over to Queen Hillary as she has a Sarcastic Smile on her face and rolls her eyes! I wonder what kind of emotions she was showing in those seconds before the camera finally makes it to her! She is pathetic!"

[Libstomper]

Not really. Which is why I think the media is running with the Wilson thing more ... you could clearly hear what was said and pinpoint the perpetrator. When it's a group of morons shouting (in the case of the dems) you really can't put a face on it.

I figured. They're all about the same to me in any case. Unless somebody's challenging somebody else to a duel.

[margaretms]

Um - the left is obsessing ?
In a thread about how poor bushy was boooed ?

:))

[Gengar]

This is totally different. It's ok when Dems act like children.

[margaretms]

I figured. They're all about the same to me in any case. Unless somebody's challenging somebody else to a duel.

Wilson should have smacked Obama in the face with his gauntlet--then thrown it down. Rusty, inaccurate, antiquated pistols-at-dawn by the Potomac!

[cj234]

This is totally different. It's ok when Dems act like children.

Funny how they forget the deal with the Sergeant Jim Crowley statement!!!

[Libstomper]

Wilson should have smacked Obama in the face with his gauntlet--then thrown it down. Rusty, inaccurate, antiquated pistols-at-dawn by the Potomac!

Now THAT'S political theater I can get on board with! A true Burrlesque.

[tinydancer]

Considering the video of Bush being booed is right in the government archives, I don't see the difficulty of being able to identify who was booing and hissing.

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2006/01/20060131-10.wm.v.html

[jprin]

Drudge is reporting Wilson originally planned to sneak in a Mr. Microphone and fart into it at an appropropriate moment. But he opted out because he thought that would be, "...too classy...."

[margaretms]

Drudge is reporting Wilson originally planned to sneak in a Mr. Microphone and fart into it at an appropropriate moment. But he opted out because he thought that would be, "...too classy...."

Now, The Paris Business Review added that actually, Wilson's initial plan was to mic-in the sound of a loud, toilet-flush from an echoey Capitol restroom.

[Nashville]

Decorum only allows the 0 to call people liars.

[Sknyluv]

They're running the Wilson thing more because he's a Republican.

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[PaleoPaul]

Whatever helps you sleep at night.
It's the truth.

More people don't like it when the opposing "team" does something against theirs. But when something happens against their "team," then its the unpardonable sin.

Don't be so naive as to say anything to the contrary.

[Iggy]

So one Republican heckles the President and its an unpardonable sin. A whole bunch of Dems heckle the President and its no big deal. Okay. Got it.

[croupier101]

So one Republican heckles the President and its an unpardonable sin. A whole bunch of Dems heckle the President and its no big deal. Okay. Got it.

wait. in one thread you are cheering this guy, and now you have a thread whining about the Democrats doing it?

I am confused. You okay with it, or not?

[Iggy]

wait. in one thread you are cheering this guy, and now you have a thread whining about the Democrats doing it?

I am confused. You okay with it, or not?I'm not whining because I don't care that the Dems did it. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy.

[croupier101]

I'm not whining because I don't care that the Dems did it. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy.

whose? Ours or yours?

[George Walton]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4228927.stm

I guess it's okay for Democrats to heckle the President, but not Republicans.



Democrats have rules for themselves and another set of rules for Republicans.

Republicans need to get some spine and challenge Obama. Obama is a know nothing.

Wilson should never have apologized.

.

[Iggy]

whose? Ours or yours?
Where's mine, smarty-pants?

[Kelzan]

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Show me when they made a stink about a Dem heckling Bush. I'm waiting with bated breath.

[agent_86]

The irony is he was absolutely right.

[Texas dude]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4228927.stm

I guess it's okay for Democrats to heckle the President, but not Republicans.


Side note: I didn't snip out Reid's comments on Bush raising the debt because its funny as hell and does a fine job of showcasing the *******'s hypocricy.
not even close... As many lies as Bush told, NOBODY ever disrespected him during a joint session address (even though he deserved it).

Shows the class of the Republican/Conservative Party...