Have you ever noticed.....

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

I had a realization hit me last night that had eluded my day to day conscience.

Every time Hollywood makes a movie that has a POTUS in it or POTUS character... that POTUS is usually a Democrat. There are a few exceptions of course...like showing a completely incompetent POTUS or villain crazed wanna take over the world type characters...then the POTUS is Republican. All hero type POTUS's are always Democrats.

Example:

The Contender

The American President

Dave (With the good president stand in/look alike being a Dem..the actual president being a evil, selfish, money and power hungry president a Repub.)

The West Wing (need I say more?)

*I'm sure there are more...Like the one with Harrison Ford as president...Air Force One I think it was called..but not sure.*

Why is this I wonder? Is Hollywood trying to tell us something? Or is this old fashioned brain washing? Hmmmm....things that keep me awake at night.

~Mysty

[CaptainPike]

Hollywood knows that republicans are evil, and now we do too.

[Mobulis]

I had a realization hit me last night that had eluded my day to day conscience.

Every time Hollywood makes a movie that has a POTUS in it or POTUS character... that POTUS is usually a Democrat. There are a few exceptions of course...like showing a completely incompetent POTUS or villain crazed wanna take over the world type characters...then the POTUS is Republican. All hero type POTUS's are always Democrats.

Example:

The Contender

The American President

Dave (With the good president stand in/look alike being a Dem..the actual president being a evil, selfish, money and power hungry president a Repub.)

The West Wing (need I say more?)

*I'm sure there are more...Like the one with Harrison Ford as president...Air Force One I think it was called..but not sure.*

Why is this I wonder? Is Hollywood trying to tell us something? Or is this old fashioned brain washing? Hmmmm....things that keep me awake at night.

~Mysty

Provide proof please.

[natalie addict]

I had a realization hit me last night that had eluded my day to day conscience.

Every time Hollywood makes a movie that has a POTUS in it or POTUS character... that POTUS is usually a Democrat. There are a few exceptions of course...like showing a completely incompetent POTUS or villain crazed wanna take over the world type characters...then the POTUS is Republican. All hero type POTUS's are always Democrats.

Example:

The Contender

The American President

Dave (With the good president stand in/look alike being a Dem..the actual president being a evil, selfish, money and power hungry president a Repub.)

The West Wing (need I say more?)

*I'm sure there are more...Like the one with Harrison Ford as president...Air Force One I think it was called..but not sure.*

Why is this I wonder? Is Hollywood trying to tell us something? Or is this old fashioned brain washing? Hmmmm....things that keep me awake at night.

~Mysty

Ever notice that in a lot of movies people leave their front door unlocked? If they would just lock their door 90% of the movies would end right there and your movie misery would end.

[FidelisAdMortem]

Provide proof please.

She did, she listed the movies.

I hope you're being sarcastic, b/c if not, then the education system that taught you, failed miserably.

[sgtmac_46]

Hollywood knows that republicans are evil, and now we do too.

More accurate answer......Hollywood is made up of self-obsessed narcissists........so is the DNC.......birds of a feather.

[sgtmac_46]

She did, she listed the movies.

I hope you're being sarcastic, b/c if not, then the education system that taught you, failed miserably.

:)) We've established that already! :))

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Hollywood knows that republicans are evil, and now we do too.

Evil hmmm....? As in...Doctor Evil? Can my tax dollars pay for laazer's on Great White Sharks and train them to eat all the Dems...?.*holds finger to edge of mouth...* Hmmm?

heheheh....

~Mysty

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Provide proof please.

Have you not seen the movies I've listed? If not..hey...it's ok...really....you go watch um real quick..and I'll wait...NOT! lol :lol:

:rolleyes: proof....pffftt....

~Mysty

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Ever notice that in a lot of movies people leave their front door unlocked? If they would just lock their door 90% of the movies would end right there and your movie misery would end.

Your not kidding! I yell and yell at the screen...lock the door..shut and lock the window...but ya know...they never hear me! :lol::lol:

...if they did start locking their doors..we wouldn't have half naked screaming woman running down the street either..so...um...kinda a plot killer? :think:

~Mysty

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

She did, she listed the movies.

I hope you're being sarcastic, b/c if not, then the education system that taught you, failed miserably.

:lol::lol: Now now..I wouldn't say failed. He can type..and spell...so not all bad right? :lol:

~Mysty

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

More accurate answer......Hollywood is made up of self-obsessed narcissists........so is the DNC.......birds of a feather.

:eh: Hmmmm....:think:...I think you might have just hit it on the head Sarge! Good answer!

~Mysty

[sgtmac_46]

:eh: Hmmmm....:think:...I think you might have just hit it on the head Sarge! Good answer!

~Mysty

The hallmark of the Democratic party is a messianic belief by it's individual narcissists that they are a gift to the world.......the same mentality as those in Hollywood.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

The hallmark of the Democratic party is a messianic belief by it's individual narcissists that they are a gift to the world.......the same mentality as those in Hollywood.

Begs the smart ass comment...Does Life imitate art? or does art imitate life? :think:

owww...makes my head hurt to think about that one too deep...lol.

~Mysty

[sgtmac_46]

Begs the smart ass comment...Does Life imitate art? or does art imitate life? :think:

owww...makes my head hurt to think about that one too deep...lol.

~Mysty

Hollywood celebrities are drawn to the kind of 'pie in the sky' utopian ideals of the Democratic party.......because Hollywood celebrities live in a FANTASY WORLD!

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Hollywood celebrities are drawn to the kind of 'pie in the sky' utopian ideals of the Democratic party.......because Hollywood celebrities live in a FANTASY WORLD!

The only movie I listed that I would say deviates from the idea you post above is 'The Contender'. Damn fine movie with actual real life damn good ideals set into it. Gary Oldman as the one Republican that stands in the way of the first female Vice Presidency...and what he does to keep her from attaining it...it's just fantastic brain candy. Although...Republicans are still portrayed as the evil, archaic, good old boys club who are hungry to rule the world. Get's sad and tiring...wish Hollywood would come up with something a litte more original...ya know?

End of the movie..the speech given by the President...gave me goosebumps. Embodied within that very rare and very well written speech should be the standard regardless what party your in. Nothing wrong with believing and supporting in a party...but never should be at a cost of what's right.

If you haven't seen it..I highly recommend it. Not only for the great story line and acting..but for the message it delivers to it's audience on many topics. Nice conversation starter to be sure.

~Mysty

[angelicmadrigal]

She did, she listed the movies.

I hope you're being sarcastic, b/c if not, then the education system that taught you, failed miserably.

I think he more meant he wanted a break down of how those particular characters show their political affiliation. We haven't all seen those movies, and I doubt anyone is goign to want to watch a list of movies just to see what Mystic is saying.

[angelicmadrigal]

Get's sad and tiring...wish Hollywood would come up with something a litte more original...ya know?


Pfft, that's like asking for politicians not to lie.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

I think he more meant he wanted a break down of how those particular characters show their political affiliation. We haven't all seen those movies, and I doubt anyone is goign to want to watch a list of movies just to see what Mystic is saying.

Oh come on...really? :rolleyes: Break down each movie..?? So the poster could tear apart my synopsis of each movie? Nah..no thank you. I'd rather the poster make up their own minds on said movies. If said poster hadn't seen the movies (none of them new by any means) then any synopsis I give isn't going to be good enough anyway..so why bother?

~Mysty

[angelicmadrigal]

Oh come on...really? :rolleyes: Break down each movie..?? So the poster could tear apart my synopsis of each movie? Nah..no thank you. I'd rather the poster make up their own minds on said movies. If said poster hadn't seen the movies (none of them new by any means) then any synopsis I give isn't going to be good enough anyway..so why bother?

~Mysty

::shrugs:: I'm just saying what the guy wanted. Personally those aren't my kinds of movies anyway, so I wouldn't waste the time of day thinking about it. You're entiteled to your opinion, but if you can't cite specific examples it doesn't help your case to just say that it is so, and get indignant when people want an example.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

::shrugs:: I'm just saying what the guy wanted. Personally those aren't my kinds of movies anyway, so I wouldn't waste the time of day thinking about it. You're entiteled to your opinion, but if you can't cite specific examples it doesn't help your case to just say that it is so, and get indignant when people want an example.

It's not being indignant..it's being old. :shhh: (I'm being sarcastic) :)

If that is truly what the poster was looking for..they should have simply said so. I won't project what they may or may not have been looking for. I'm sure there are fine synopsis on my list of movies that will do a much better job describing my point better then I ever could. Not one of my gifts so to speak....:redface:

Suffice it to say that my base OP premise is the point in which I wanted to make..and listed/sited the movies to which support my premise. That should be enough in and of itself to either go look up the synopsis of said movie if one hadn't seen it..or discuss the validity or non validity of my point if one had seen the movie(s).

Easy stuff....

~Mysty

[Cold_War_Warrior]

Was the General in Undercover Brother a Republican or Democrat?

I don’t doubt the over emphasis in movies of Democrats being portrayed as political leaders. They often make believe things in their films as they want them to be and not how things actually are. Just like liberal journalists do in their reporting.

There is a theme presented in Undercover Brother where “the man” is drugging the African American population to keep them down* which, in the movie, prevents their candidate from running for president and opening a nationwide fried chicken franchise instead.

*A theme some individuals actually believe in.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Was the General in Undercover Brother a Republican or Democrat?

I don’t doubt the over emphasis in movies of Democrats being portrayed as political leaders. They often make believe things in their films as they want them to be and not how things actually are. Just like liberal journalists do in their reporting.

There is a theme presented in Undercover Brother where “the man” is drugging the African American population to keep them down* which, in the movie, prevents their candidate from running for president and opening a nationwide fried chicken franchise instead.

*A theme some individuals actually believe in.

I actually laughed at that stupid movie. Not something I would have watched on my own. I did the good wife thing and watched it with the hubby.

I don't believe I can specifically remember political affiliations being discussed or intimated in that movie...not like the list I opened the topic with...but there was the 'The Man' read bad guy and the "Brotherhood' read good guys. The man being the conservative, white, old establishment type..and the Brotherhood being for fairness, truth and change. So yeah..I could see it inlaid quietly in that movie too.

The hot sauce in the watch...lol...still kills me to this day. :lol:

~Mysty

[Cold_War_Warrior]

I actually laughed at that stupid movie. Not something I would have watched on my own. I did the good wife thing and watched it with the hubby.

I don't believe I can specifically remember political affiliations being discussed or intimated in that movie...not like the list I opened the topic with...but there was the 'The Man' read bad guy and the "Brotherhood' read good guys. The man being the conservative, white, old establishment type..and the Brotherhood being for fairness, truth and change. So yeah..I could see it inlaid quietly in that movie too.

The hot sauce in the watch...lol...still kills me to this day. :lol:

~Mysty

And, the mayonnaise sandwich….:sick:

I think you're right about no mention of political affiliations but, it was clear as to what was meant in that movie.

Its common to take things as accepted fact in order for the humor to work whether in film, TV or, print. Sometimes, people only hear the joke without ever knowing reality.

The message from Hollywood gets out intentionally just as the writers and producers want it to.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

And, the mayonnaise sandwich….:sick:

I think you're right about no mention of political affiliations but, it was clear as to what was meant in that movie.

Its common to take things as accepted fact in order for the humor to work whether in film, TV or, print. Sometimes, people only hear the joke without ever knowing reality.

The message from Hollywood gets out intentionally just as the writers and producers want it to.

Never got the whole mayonnaise sandwich part...other then..made me wanna puke! Seemed kinda racist to me to intimate only 'white' people use the stuff. :rolleyes: The movie made my eyebrows raise a few times in the thinly veiled...'white men are all dorky' and 'white women are kyrptonite'. :rolleyes: But those were also joke inlaid within the thinly veiled stereo types. Like I said..not really a movie I would have watched on my own steam.

Taking your point one step further ....many 'accepted' norms are inlaid in t.v. and movies in this day in age...usually for humor. It's become an accepted form of film and t.v. production. It appears that it has only gotten more aggressive in it's message...more fine pointed in it's veiled message. Eventually, that's got to sink in somewhere in the unconsciousness.... becoming a working practicing knowledge for the viewers... right?

So here's a question...Obama and the gang really screw up. Populace on both sides of the aisle are up in arms (hey..no fantasy here..it's happening over health care and cap and trade and stimulus packages that need Viagra in order to stimulate anything..but I digress)...what will Hollywood do? Meaning..will they (Hollywood) begin showing POTUS characters who are now little more then hapless victims? And who will they be victims of? Republicans? Gun totting uneducated populaces who cling to their bibles? :eh:

I can see it now...movies who once showed Dems as shining knights will become little more then burning bed characters. I don't think it's too far fetched to imagine this outcome.

~Mysty

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0208874/

Site above is a fairly decent synopses site for any movie. Although, imo, the private comments were unfair in their synopses of "The Contender"..it does however, give the base premise for the movie. Comments can be seen at the bottom of the page.

They also have a search bar that allows one to type in a movie and see the stats, actors, the year is was made and a synopses of the movie.

I should have added
The Star Chamber

All the Presidents Men

Manchurian Candidate

More examples of evil Republicans and the saviors/knights in shinning armor/heroes Dems.

~Mysty

[angelicmadrigal]

And who will they be victims of? Republicans? Gun totting uneducated populaces who cling to their bibles? :eh:



Nah, peasants with torches and pitchforks. We all know that makes for great classic cinema.

[NCRedState]

For the most part, maybe.

Air Force One would most likely be an exception to your theory.

[Mobulis]

She did, she listed the movies.

I hope you're being sarcastic, b/c if not, then the education system that taught you, failed miserably.


I mean show clips where its stated what party the president is.

[MrShotShot]

And in most cases the President's political enemy/rival is usually a big white guy with a Southern accent. They may not exactly come out and say Republican or Democrat, but pretty much everyone can figure out what they are implying.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

For the most part, maybe.

Air Force One would most likely be an exception to your theory.

Air Force One..couldn't remember if it was the actual name of the movie..it's why I had it asterisked at the bottom of the list. Thanks for the confirmation of the movie title!

I don't remember there being a clear implication of repub or dem in that movie for the POTUS character...however..I do remember there being reference too 'cleaning up' after the last administration with regards to policies towards terrorism. Which is one of the reason's I added...even though asterisked and at bottom of list.

I love the line in the movie between Harrison Ford and the Glen Close who played the VP...

Give a Mouse a cookie...and soon he'll want a glass of milk. Great line.

The movie, imo, leaned more towards a Republican view of not negotiating with terrorist demands...which is reminiscent of Regan era..which is why it came to mind as I put up my list.

~Mysty

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Nah, peasants with torches and pitchforks. We all know that makes for great classic cinema.

Mel Brooks..Young Frankenstein...or is that Frankenstien?...lol...is the last movie I saw with pitchforks and torches. Just not something you see in movies anymore. Sad..nothing better then a good old fashioned mob of peasants...lol.

And your right..makes for great black and white cinema! Love the old black and whites!
Some like it Hot...lol...still makes me giggle
The 7 year itch...gotta love Marilyn
Gentleman prefer Blonds...what would have Maddona done had this movie never been made?
An Affair to Remember...I still cry at the end.
Roman Holiday...Miss Audry Hepburn...what a classy gal

Oh..the list goes on and on. My favorites are well worn and well loved. Granted, none of the above movies have peasants with torches and pitch forks...but still great cinema!

~Mysty

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

I mean show clips where its stated what party the president is.

The original list I gave listed Presidents who were democratic or republican. (filled them in as I went..and from memory) As for the second list...like all the Presidents Men, Star chamber and Manchurian Candidate were a mix of evil republican type plotters or democratic hero's trying to stop the evil republican plotters..but not necessarily with POTUS characters.

It's more a theme one see's anymore in movies that have a POTUS character. Look at the site I listed and type in the movie your looking for. Best site I could find that gave a unbiased look at the main theme of the movie, the characters and the plot of each movie. Best I could find to fit your request.

If you haven't seen any of these movies...it's a great Sunday afternoon in to watch them. All are good movies..all with a theme to them..all of them with great casts. I think you'll enjoy them regardless the topic I raise within them.

Happy viewing...

~Mysty

[snagswolf]

Looked on IMDb to research Air Force One, and found this funny thread on the movie's message board:

Could Obama do it?
by svante-ostrom
whaddya think? Could Obama do what Ford did in this movie? I personally think he could
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by Ikariw
He wouldn't even have to use any violence whatsoever. The bad guys would simply succumb to his charisma and immediately become better people.
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by BoSoxRule
Of course he could. He's black.
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by WOODMCQ
Obama would never actually do anything. He would try to make friends really hard with Gary Oldman because if you are nice to people they will be nice back to you.
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by rgcustomer
That would only work until Oldman figured out it was all just campaign lies.
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by TheRocky87
Obama do what Ford did?
LOL, he wouldn't do squat.
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by FilmStudentWannabe
LOL @ Obama kicking ass.
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by ***Off5
lol, he's too scrawny
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by trhogg
He'd try to solve it with a 5 trillion dollar stimulus package.
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by jrb2111991
He'd offer the terrorist a couple tens of billions of tax payer dollars and then they'd shoot him in the face.
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by NurvTronics
No, he would get the FED to print more money for the terrorists, then call it even and offer them pardons.
He would be all "lets ah, just not get too excited here, ok? because we don't need to be attacking my health care plan, lets not be all radical and ask questions ah ok?"
"now put down the guns , and ah, we will all have ah, nice beer, and talk things over while I get paid to , ah waste time, ok , god bless america"
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by trhogg
Then he would give the terrorists a vacation in Bermuda.
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by spaminput
Personally I think Obama would have flown the terrorists back to the US so that they could get access to the US legal system for their defense.
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by Dark_Sithlord
Obama would have actually gotten into the lifepod rendering the question moot.
Plus, Obama would never have Glenn Close as his Vice-President...reminds him too much of Hilary. Oh, and the fax-lady would have been white.
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by gtmash
Stop hating on Obama, you losers. They already made a movie about him saving a plane. It's called Passenger 57.

:)) :)) :))

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

And in most cases the President's political enemy/rival is usually a big white guy with a Southern accent. They may not exactly come out and say Republican or Democrat, but pretty much everyone can figure out what they are implying.

A few in my list...like Air Force One..dealt with a republican policy...'we don't negotiate with terrorist'...which as we all know is a Regan ideal. Even in 'mock' or comedy movies...like Under Cover Brother there is a distinct flavor of right verses left ideals..even if loosely constructed within the story/plot.

I thought at first maybe I was seeing something that wasn't really there in these movies. The more I think about those movies and movies like it, the more I'm convinced there is a theme in Hollywood to show dems/liberals as shining knights of armor..protecting the American way...our rights and liberties...where as repub/conservatives are evil power hungry greedy mob who simply want to take over it's populace..(read nanny state type thinking) It's just mind blowing as example after example is shown in these movies.

To much coincidence for my taste.

Anyone going to take a stab at my open conjecture question? If Obama and the gang fail...leaving the White House after only 4 years...how will Hollywood then portray POTUS that are dems in the near future? Will they show them as victims of evil scheming and plotting by the right? Will they be reduced to victim status only...or will Hollywood reconstruct history trying to pull something good out of something in reality that went terribly wrong?

If art imitates real life...how will the current days realities affect how Hollywood portrays future POTUS/Political figures?

~Mysty

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Looked on IMDb to research Air Force One, and found this funny thread on the movie's message board:


:)) :)) :))

Thats priceless! Great find Snags...lol...still giggling.

My vote is he'd get his arse into a life pod and jump ship! Calling Rhamn on his sat link phone to ask him what to do next! lmao....

~Mysty

[Cold_War_Warrior]

A few in my list...like Air Force One..dealt with a republican policy...'we don't negotiate with terrorist'...which as we all know is a Regan ideal. Even in 'mock' or comedy movies...like Under Cover Brother there is a distinct flavor of right verses left ideals..even if loosely constructed within the story/plot.

I thought at first maybe I was seeing something that wasn't really there in these movies. The more I think about those movies and movies like it, the more I'm convinced there is a theme in Hollywood to show dems/liberals as shining knights of armor..protecting the American way...our rights and liberties...where as repub/conservatives are evil power hungry greedy mob who simply want to take over it's populace..(read nanny state type thinking) It's just mind blowing as example after example is shown in these movies.

To much coincidence for my taste.

Anyone going to take a stab at my open conjecture question? If Obama and the gang fail...leaving the White House after only 4 years...how will Hollywood then portray POTUS that are dems in the near future? Will they show them as victims of evil scheming and plotting by the right? Will they be reduced to victim status only...or will Hollywood reconstruct history trying to pull something good out of something in reality that went terribly wrong?

If art imitates real life...how will the current days realities affect how Hollywood portrays future POTUS/Political figures?

~Mysty

They will do both.

I think that Hollywood would make even more “documentaries” about how Obama was the greatest President in American history ever despite his failures. Just like I infer in my signature line…his success precedes him.

The hype of Obama doesn’t fit the mold of his creation. Part of the hype is that he is the most intelligent President ever when clearly he is not; that he is a great leader…clearly he is not; that he will bring change to Washington…clearly he has not; etc. etc.

Hollywood will praise him and Democrats regardless and, they will continue to lay blame on the evil Republicans instead of recognizing he has had any failure resulting from his own ineffectiveness.

Since most all of the current media including Hollywood’s products are created by liberals then we can expect to see those views in their works.

“Those who control the present control the past. And, those who control the past control the future.” – George Orwell

[Cold_War_Warrior]

Thats priceless! Great find Snags...lol...still giggling.

My vote is he'd get his arse into a life pod and jump ship! Calling Rhamn on his sat link phone to ask him what to do next! lmao....

~Mysty

Sounds like “Escape from New York” where Snake Plissken rescues the President after he’s been ejected in an AF1 pod.

The President: "God save me, and watch over you all"

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

They will do both.

I think that Hollywood would make even more “documentaries” about how Obama was the greatest President in American history ever despite his failures. Just like I infer in my signature line…his success precedes him.

The hype of Obama doesn’t fit the mold of his creation. Part of the hype is that he is the most intelligent President ever when clearly he is not; that he is a great leader…clearly he is not; that he will bring change to Washington…clearly he has not; etc. etc.

Hollywood will praise him and Democrats regardless and, they will continue to lay blame on the evil Republicans instead of recognizing he has had any failure resulting from his own ineffectiveness.

Since most all of the current media including Hollywood’s products are created by liberals then we can expect to see those views in their works.

“Those who control the present control the past. And, those who control the past control the future.” – George Orwell

Good answer!

I have to wonder just how popular the ideal that leftist Hollywood will garner if they continue to push the 'left is always right' campaign. I know those in power think us little people are dumb as rocks..but man...how far can they push it before sales tank at the box office? Eventually, Hollywood is going to have to take a different approach...might actually make for some decent movies?

~Mysty

[JudasGoat]

I had a realization hit me last night that had eluded my day to day conscience.

Every time Hollywood makes a movie that has a POTUS in it or POTUS character... that POTUS is usually a Democrat. There are a few exceptions of course...like showing a completely incompetent POTUS or villain crazed wanna take over the world type characters...then the POTUS is Republican. All hero type POTUS's are always Democrats.

Example:

The Contender

The American President

Dave (With the good president stand in/look alike being a Dem..the actual president being a evil, selfish, money and power hungry president a Repub.)

The West Wing (need I say more?)

*I'm sure there are more...Like the one with Harrison Ford as president...Air Force One I think it was called..but not sure.*

Why is this I wonder? Is Hollywood trying to tell us something? Or is this old fashioned brain washing? Hmmmm....things that keep me awake at night.

~Mysty

did you notice her rival was a ted kennedy wanna-be and they conveniently made him a republican...?

[Cold_War_Warrior]

Good answer!

I have to wonder just how popular the ideal that leftist Hollywood will garner if they continue to push the 'left is always right' campaign. I know those in power think us little people are dumb as rocks..but man...how far can they push it before sales tank at the box office? Eventually, Hollywood is going to have to take a different approach...might actually make for some decent movies?

~Mysty

O’Reilly has made similar points in the past few years about Hollywood and their somewhat anti-American attitude in films. He especially took issue with some actors that would bad mouth Bush just to get cred among their fellow libs elitists. They learned that fans cared about what they might have to say and ticket sales reflected it.

Since the Age of Obama has dawned, there is almost no word out of the same people about the wars we are still fighting and, it now seems to be ok for government to spend tax dollars a trillion at a time. It’s because he is their President and its Democrats doing the spending so, they don’t feel the same need to make their criticisms. Instead they pledge themselves to him.

I for one haven’t gone out to the movies very often in the last 10 years or more. I rent or watch what makes it to TV. The last one I went to see was Grand Torino. As far as current movies go…I don’t know how the portrayal of Dems vs. Reps has changed since the last election.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

did you notice her rival was a ted kennedy wanna-be and they conveniently made him a republican...?

Your speaking to the movie..The Contender..? I'm guessing...

With the whole car falling over a bridge..girl dies..yeah..I thought Chappaquiddick/Ted Kennedy too. However, the character wasn't a Republican...I don't think. I believe he was a leading dem and governor of his state. Shelly Runion...played by Gary Oldman...a republican senator...while talking to chief of staff...played by Sam Elliot..tells Elliot he would rather he put up the Chappaquiddick senator..and was ok...for a 'dem' instead of Joan's character that the president wanted as VP. Kept calling her appointment to the seat of VP as the "Old Man's Swan song'. Kinda got on my nerves by the time they used it the third time. :rolleyes:

I'll have to watch it again to be sure..but fairly certain I'm right. :think:

~Mysty

[Cold_War_Warrior]

I did see a recent DVD my brother in-law gave me to watch that was different. It surprised me that it was an HBO movie release.

The movie is called “Taking Chance”. This is a pro-military hero/pro-military family movie based on a true story. It deals with the highly sensitive nature of fallen soldiers returning home.

This movie wouldn’t have been made with Bush in the Whitehouse. Or, more accurately…it would’ve had an entirely different theme were it released with a Republican as President.

[snagswolf]

Harrison Ford's speech at the beginning of Air Force One:

The dead remember our indifference. The dead remember our silence. I came here tonight to be congratulated. But today when I visited the Red Cross camps, overwhelmed by the flood of refugees fleeing from the horror of Kazakhstan, I realized I don't deserve to be congratulated. None of us do.

Let's speak the truth. And the truth is, we acted too late. Only when our own national security was threatened did we act.

Radek's regime murdered over 200,000 men, women and children and we watched it on TV. We let it happen. People were being slaughtered for over a year and we issued economical sanctions and hid behind a rhetoric of diplomacy. How dare we? The dead remember. Real peace is not just the absence of conflict, it's the presence of justice.

And tonight, I come to you with a pledge to change America's policy. Never again will I allow our political self-interests to deter us from doing what we know to be morally right. Atrocity and terror are not political weapons and to those who would use them: Your day is over.

We will never negotiate.

We will no longer tolerate and we will no longer be afraid.

It's your turn to be afraid.

[King Cantona]

Hollywood knows that republicans are evil, and now we do too.

Well funnily enough Republican Presidents are usually not very progressive and like to hold back progress...

And don't worry, I fully expect the weight of indignation that will be coming...

I will just use Obama's healthcare reforms as an example.......:cool:........

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Harrison Ford's speech at the beginning of Air Force One:

Damn fine speech...Thank you for finding it! :hug:

I asterisked this movie..due to the absence of actual party affiliations mentioned by the characters in the movie. So, with this speech in mind..do you believe Harrison's character was a democrat or a republican POTUS?

Truth be told, I can see Obama making that speech...lots of truth behind those oh so true words. Sanctions, embargo's, UN Letters of reprehend...hahh! What nonsense! :rolleyes:

~Mysty

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Well funnily enough Republican Presidents are usually not very progressive and like to hold back progress...

And don't worry, I fully expect the weight of indignation that will be coming...

I will just use Obama's healthcare reforms as an example.......:cool:........

Ummm...may I suggest you look into our American Presidents history that have been Republican. I know many can't look past Bush 2...but there have been many who made wide changes in this world.

Regan is sighted when it comes to a Republican POTUS who 'got things done'. There were many before him..and after him. History is a funny thing..all hindsight is 20/20.

Progressive...what a word. I'm ready to strangle it from hearing it so much! How about doing what needs to be done? How about doing what is the will of your people? How about actually leading the country instead of campaigning it to death? I mean holy flying frogs...Obama has the job already! Put it down man..walk away...get moving on things that need to get done...not convince us what you can do! :eh: (sorry for the mini rant...I digress :shifty:)

As it pertains to movies however...not real life...would you not agree with my assessment of how Hollywood portrays POTUS depending on their party?

~Mysty

[snagswolf]

Damn fine speech...Thank you for finding it! :hug:

I asterisked this movie..due to the absence of actual party affiliations mentioned by the characters in the movie. So, with this speech in mind..do you believe Harrison's character was a democrat or a republican POTUS?
I thought about it, and while it leans decidedly to the right, I don't agree with our military being involved in every conflict around the globe, just because it's 'morally right'. So maybe we can call it 'Hollywood Right'.

Truth be told, I can see Obama making that speech...lots of truth behind those oh so true words. Sanctions, embargo's, UN Letters of reprehend...hahh! What nonsense! :rolleyes:
You CAN see Obama making that speech? I can't.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

I thought about it, and while it leans decidedly to the right, I don't agree with our military being involved in every conflict around the globe, just because it's 'morally right'. So maybe we can call it 'Hollywood Right'.

I agree...I like that...the 'Hollywood version' of 'right' or conservative views. Well put. I also don't agree being the worlds police force. We carry the weight of human loss, financing such propisitions just to have insults hurled at us and disliked by the whole of the rest of the world. Can't win for loosing...hell, you can't win for winning anymore!


You CAN see Obama making that speech? I can't.

Under the right circumstances...sure I can. Enough pressure...something so palpable that not even Rahm can make use of it's crises nature to push some other bull pucky Utopian ideal...sure..I can see Obama trying to put on a brave face and push that speech out...especially with some righteous indignation to keep the stone throwers at bay. It would be more of a Hail Mary pass...before he's booted out of the White House of course...something like this speech alone wouldn't save him. No..he'd have to actually back up those words with action..and that's were he would fall flat on his face. ;)

~Mysty

[Cold_War_Warrior]

Tonight on TV Guide network is a show titled: Hollywood Presidents.

Start time is 6pm central.

Seems to fit this thread so I had to give it a bump.

Hollywood Presidents: Hail to the Chief
60 mins.

A look at actors who have portrayed real and fictitious U.S. presidents on the big and small screen.
Included: Harrison Ford, Josh Brolin, Chevy Chase, Darrell Hammond, Will Ferrell and Frank Caliendo.

Release Year: 2009

[artemis]

Under the right circumstances...sure I can. Enough pressure...something so palpable that not even Rahm can make use of it's crises nature to push some other bull pucky Utopian ideal...sure..I can see Obama trying to put on a brave face and push that speech out...especially with some righteous indignation to keep the stone throwers at bay. It would be more of a Hail Mary pass...before he's booted out of the White House of course...something like this speech alone wouldn't save him. No..he'd have to actually back up those words with action..and that's were he would fall flat on his face. ;)

~Mysty

you know what bothers me most about this argument, is that you keep signing you name after everything you say. Stop, we get it MYSTY...with a "y". yes.