Obama Opponents 'Not Smart Enough' To Raise Their Children

[SFC(R)L]

Harwood: Obama Opponents 'Not Smart Enough' To Raise Their Children
By Mark Finkelstein (Bio | Archive)
September 5, 2009 - 08:00 ET

A new high-tech Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Racism. And parents too dumb to raise their children.

I gotta tell you, Amy [Robach], as somebody who's covered Washington for a long time, this is one of the most ridiculous controversies I've ever seen. So far as I can tell, the biggest danger to kids in this whole thing is that a lot of the parents complaining aren't smart enough to raise them very effectively. Because if you think that a president coming into your school, kids school, and saying work hard and stay in school is a danger to kids, you've got some problems.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2009/09/05/harwood-parents-objecting-obama-school-speech-arent-smart-enough-r

I didn't believe it until I read it

I didn't think even liberals would go this far

[deportalllibs]

Harwood: Obama Opponents 'Not Smart Enough' To Raise Their Children
By Mark Finkelstein (Bio | Archive)
September 5, 2009 - 08:00 ET

A new high-tech Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Racism. And parents too dumb to raise their children.

I gotta tell you, Amy [Robach], as somebody who's covered Washington for a long time, this is one of the most ridiculous controversies I've ever seen. So far as I can tell, the biggest danger to kids in this whole thing is that a lot of the parents complaining aren't smart enough to raise them very effectively. Because if you think that a president coming into your school, kids school, and saying work hard and stay in school is a danger to kids, you've got some problems.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2009/09/05/harwood-parents-objecting-obama-school-speech-arent-smart-enough-r

I didn't believe it until I read it

I didn't think even liberals would go this far

Then you don't understand elite liberals. They are 100% correct on every issue and so anyone who does not share their views is a retard that needs to be ruled and told what to do by the elite liberals.

[SFC(R)L]

Then you don't understand elite liberals. They are 100% correct on every issue and so anyone who does not share their views is a retard that needs to be ruled and told what to do by the elite liberals.

I must have missed that memo...

[deportalllibs]

I must have missed that memo...

It's why trying to work with them in a bipartisan fashion is a waste of time. You hear Rush trying to make this point all the time, comprimise to libs is you cave and agree with them.

On the bright side this is why the libs fail, look at healthcare, Obama's lib whackos are telling him its government healthcare or nothing, there's no middle ground to comprimise. This morning they are at it again, they told the president to forget about sending more troops to Afgan.

[Mobulis]

Then you don't understand elite liberals. They are 100% correct on every issue and so anyone who does not share their views is a retard that needs to be ruled and told what to do by the elite liberals.


Since they are elite, which means they are the best then shouldn't they be listened to?

[Hellsbane]

I must have missed that memo...



Yes you did. I got mine.

[SFC(R)L]

It's why trying to work with them in a bipartisan fashion is a waste of time. You hear Rush trying to make this point all the time, comprimise to libs is you cave and agree with them.

On the bright side this is why the libs fail, look at healthcare, Obama's lib whackos are telling him its government healthcare or nothing, there's no middle ground to comprimise. This morning they are at it again, they told the president to forget about sending more troops to Afgan.

Then again, I am too stupid to read memos, as I cannot read.

Liberals have a long record of failure and outright criminal behavior, and you have merely scratched the cover of the book. A little red one.

[SFC(R)L]

Yes you did. I got mine.

Doesn't matter

I can't read

I got stuck in Iraq

[deportalllibs]

Then again, I am too stupid to read memos, as I cannot read.

Liberals have a long record of failure and outright criminal behavior, and you have merely scratched the cover of the book. A little red one.

Me too, I'm just an ignorant mobster racist who clings to my guns and religion and conservative values. If only I was an elite ivy league lib like Obama I could tie my own shoes laces.

[SFC(R)L]

Me too, I'm just an ignorant mobster racist who clings to my guns and religion and conservative values. If only I was an elite ivy league lib like Obama I could tie my own shoes laces.

They let you tie your own laces?

[simssk]

Me too, I'm just an ignorant mobster racist who clings to my guns and religion and conservative values. If only I was an elite ivy league lib like Obama I could tie my own shoes laces.

Yeah, me too. But at least I dress well.

[YouLost_ThatIsAll]

Harwood: Obama Opponents 'Not Smart Enough' To Raise Their Children
By Mark Finkelstein (Bio | Archive)
September 5, 2009 - 08:00 ET

A new high-tech Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Racism. And parents too dumb to raise their children.

I gotta tell you, Amy [Robach], as somebody who's covered Washington for a long time, this is one of the most ridiculous controversies I've ever seen. So far as I can tell, the biggest danger to kids in this whole thing is that a lot of the parents complaining aren't smart enough to raise them very effectively. Because if you think that a president coming into your school, kids school, and saying work hard and stay in school is a danger to kids, you've got some problems.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2009/09/05/harwood-parents-objecting-obama-school-speech-arent-smart-enough-r

I didn't believe it until I read it

I didn't think even liberals would go this far
Amen., I mean I can't believe Some People on this Forum are Parent's

Does the Liberal Media still exist?? If so what does it say about its influence if this level of right wing "dumb" can go so viral?

[SFC(R)L]

Amen., I mean I can't believe Some People on this Forum are Parent's

Does the Liberal Media still exist?? If so what does it say about its influence if this level of right wing "dumb" can go so viral?

Don't you mean "parents", in the plural sense

as opposed to

"parent's"

which shows possession?

[JenyEliza]

Harwood: Obama Opponents 'Not Smart Enough' To Raise Their Children
By Mark Finkelstein (Bio | Archive)
September 5, 2009 - 08:00 ET

A new high-tech Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Racism. And parents too dumb to raise their children.

I gotta tell you, Amy [Robach], as somebody who's covered Washington for a long time, this is one of the most ridiculous controversies I've ever seen. So far as I can tell, the biggest danger to kids in this whole thing is that a lot of the parents complaining aren't smart enough to raise them very effectively. Because if you think that a president coming into your school, kids school, and saying work hard and stay in school is a danger to kids, you've got some problems.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2009/09/05/harwood-parents-objecting-obama-school-speech-arent-smart-enough-r

I didn't believe it until I read it

I didn't think even liberals would go this far

I was up early this AM and saw it happen on the Today show live.

My jaw hit the ground---and it's still there.

I could NOT believe my eyes and ears. :eek: :shifty:

Unbelieveable! SHAMEFUL!! :naughty:

[SFC(R)L]

I was up early this AM and saw it happen on the Today show live.

My jaw hit the ground---and it's still there.

I could NOT believe my eyes and ears. :eek: :shifty:

Unbelieveable! SHAMEFUL!! :naughty:

you watch the today show?

You know how to work the remote?

[deportalllibs]

Since they are elite, which means they are the best then shouldn't they be listened to?

Yes we should burn the constitution and dismiss congress. Then Obama as the most holy of the elite libs should seize all wealth and nationalize all industry and appoint himself dictator of the USA for life. He could rule the country with czars and groups like Acorn and the people could all sit around singing kumbaya while the earth healed.

There that about sums up most idiot lib daydreams right.

[JenyEliza]

Amen., I mean I can't believe Some People on this Forum are Parent's

Does the Liberal Media still exist?? If so what does it say about its influence if this level of right wing "dumb" can go so viral?

Based on your poor grasp of grammar, punctuation and usage, I'd say it says pretty bad things about rabid liberals in education. Either on the student side of the equation or the instructor side.

Maybe some liberals shouldn't be Parents (note "parents"--this is plural, no apostrophe, no possession).

Things that make you go hmmmmmm? ;)

[Rurudyne]

By all means, Bill Ayers should be the role model for educators and education in the country....

[SFC(R)L]

Yes we should burn the constitution and dismiss congress. Then Obama as the most holy of the elite libs should seize all wealth and nationalize all industry and appoint himself dictator of the USA for life. He could rule the country with czars and groups like Acorn and the people could all sit around singing kumbaya while the earth healed.

There that about sums up most idiot lib daydreams right.

He ended a sentence with a preposition.

Self-appointed elites are to be ignored and publicly scorned.

And political indoctrination in schools smacks of something smelly and slimy.

[JenyEliza]

Yes we should burn the constitution and dismiss congress. Then Obama as the most holy of the elite libs should seize all wealth and nationalize all industry and appoint himself dictator of the USA for life. He could rule the country with czars and groups like Acorn and the people could all sit around singing kumbaya while the earth healed.

There that about sums up most idiot lib daydreams right.

Barackbottom and his supporters can't wait until the day he names himself Supreme Ayatollah. Surely you are aware of this? ;) :dance:

[SFC(R)L]

By all means, Bill Ayers should be the role model for educators and education in the country....

He is, according to some.

[JenyEliza]

you watch the today show?

You know how to work the remote?

Sadly, I *was* working the remote.

We have the wonderful "FREE" digital TV that the US government pushed so hard.

That was the only channel I could get to come in at that time of day, that wsn't pixelated, without audio and totally useless.

Well, that and there was also the channel playing Sesame Street in Spanish.

I watched Sesame Street in Espanol immediately following this jackass's comments about conservative parents.

;)

[SFC(R)L]

Sadly, I *was* working the remote.

We have the wonderful "FREE" digital TV that the US government pushed so hard.

That was the only channel I could get to come in at that time of day. Well, that and the channel that was playing Sesame Street in Spanish.

I watched Sesame Street in Espanol immediately following this jackass's comments about conservative parents.

;)

how do I change my channel?

I don't know how to read so my TV is stuck on one of those infomercial stations...

[Rurudyne]

He is, according to some.
Sadly, yes.

Saul Alinsky would be proud.

[JenyEliza]

how do I change my channel?

I don't know how to read so my TV is stuck on one of those infomercial stations...

Which stupid free converter box did you end up with?

Didn't yours have a remote with it?

[SFC(R)L]

Which stupid free converter box did you end up with?

Didn't yours have a remote with it?

what's a "coverter box"?

[SFC(R)L]

Sadly, yes.

Saul Alinsky would be proud.

his acolytes, clinton and obama, are.

[ModerateVoice]

My favorite hypocrisy:

ANDREA MITCHELL: Other presidents have faced opposition. But experts say it's now more organized, from cable television to blogs, to Twitter. It's gone viral.

MITCHELL: A partisan echo chamber making it much harder for any president to make his voice heard.

Andrea Mitchell completely ignores far-left echo chambers such as HuffPo & Daily Kos, totally omits mention of all the far-left chat forums, and she ignorantly overlooks the FACT that one of the biggest contributions to Obama's election was how the internet & modern technology was efficiently used as a campaign tool.

What a moron.

[nunyadb]

I don't care where it's from, as long as the people of this nation are turning
their backs to the lib messiah en masse.

[SFC(R)L]

My favorite hypocrisy:





Andrea Mitchell completely ignores far-left echo chambers such as HuffPo & Daily Kos, totally omits mention of all the far-left chat forums, and she ignorantly overlooks the FACT that one of the biggest contributions to Obama's election was how the internet & modern technology was efficiently used as a campaign tool.

What a moron.

moveon and codepink use the internet to protest our wounded

[JenyEliza]

what's a "coverter box"?

The POS that makes your old-timey, non-HD, non-LCD, non-digital TV work.

It's attached to modern rabbit ears, and looks a bit like a cable box.

:mrgreen:

[skprtod914]

Harwood: Obama Opponents 'Not Smart Enough' To Raise Their Children
By Mark Finkelstein (Bio | Archive)
September 5, 2009 - 08:00 ET

A new high-tech Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Racism. And parents too dumb to raise their children.

I gotta tell you, Amy [Robach], as somebody who's covered Washington for a long time, this is one of the most ridiculous controversies I've ever seen. So far as I can tell, the biggest danger to kids in this whole thing is that a lot of the parents complaining aren't smart enough to raise them very effectively. Because if you think that a president coming into your school, kids school, and saying work hard and stay in school is a danger to kids, you've got some problems.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2009/09/05/harwood-parents-objecting-obama-school-speech-arent-smart-enough-r

I didn't believe it until I read it

I didn't think even liberals would go this far

"It takes a village to raise a child". This is predictable. Conservative parents with kids in public school need to get their kids out of their as soon as possible.

[skprtod914]

I don't care where it's from, as long as the people of this nation are turning
their backs to the lib messiah en masse.

And Obama can try to indoctrinate school children if he wants, but the informed adults (and informed children) can very likely counter the influence.

[TinCan]

They let you tie your own laces?

I'm just amazed that they allowed him to have shoes with shoe laces.

[SFC(R)L]

The POS that makes your old-timey, non-HD, non-LCD, non-digital TV work.

It's attached to modern rabbit ears, and looks a bit like a cable box.

:mrgreen:

what's a rabbit?

[SFC(R)L]

I'm just amazed that they allowed him to have shoes with shoe laces.

You have shoes?

[TinCan]

By all means, Bill Ayers should be the role model for educators and education in the country....

And parenting, don't forget parenting. Maybe he could give me some pointers on landing a cushy job with Chavez for one of my kids. :)

[JenyEliza]

What is wrong with you SFC? :)) :)) :)) :))

[SFC(R)L]

"It takes a village to raise a child". This is predictable. Conservative parents with kids in public school need to get their kids out of their as soon as possible.

Some of their villages are missing their idiots.

[SFC(R)L]

What is wrong with you SFC? :)) :)) :)) :))

is there something wrong with me?

I'm too stupid to know!!

[TinCan]

You have shoes?

Flip-flops, and they're only 3 years old! :)

:think:.........
Oh wait, and some steel-toed molders boots!

[TinCan]

Some of their villages are missing their idiots.

Naw, they are all at the convention up in D.C.

[Canadian Jane]

Since they are elite, which means they are the best then shouldn't they be listened to?



That's funny - that is EXACTLY what the people are taught in Communist China.

They've created a culture of submissive slaves who never question their leaders.

It's starting to get easier to connect the dots now, isn't it?

[czzzaar]

Since they are elite, which means they are the best then shouldn't they be listened to?

They are rich and think they are the elite...and so they are, but they and anyone that worships at their despicable altar are scum. They are worse than scum, they are traitors to the American people and deserve a traitors reward.

[SFC(R)L]

Naw, they are all at the convention up in D.C.

"D.C."?

Where's that?

Remember, I'm STUPID

[SFC(R)L]

Flip-flops, and they're only 3 years old! :)

:think:.........
Oh wait, and some steel-toed molders boots!

flip-flops

the national shoe of liberals

[LJ14]

I can't say I'm surprised. The entire platform of the Socialist Democrat Party is based on their contempt for their fellow Americans, glossed over in platitudes and pledges about saving mankind and saving the Earth. At the bottom line, they don't believe we have the intellectual wherewithal to take care of ourselves, but rather, need Big Brother looking out for us. And it's an easy enough sale to their elitist supporters, because it appeals to the ego. ie. "YOU are the smart one who can see clearly the needs of the poor unwashed masses". :rolleyes:

Take the "I Pledge" video, where we see a bunch of celebrity elitists stroking their own egos, yammering on about all the good works they plan to do, until by the end, they're chanting together in a way that's quite frankly "Rosemary's Baby" creepy... :eek:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51kAw4OTlA0

It's always a matter of the poor unnamed "little guy" with these people. I mean, how often do we see posts here at Hannity which argue the benefit of social programs where the poster says essentially, "Yeah, I've got what I need... but what about all these other poor little guys who don't?" :boohoo:
Not to dismiss altruism altogether, but there's a hidden emotional pay-off here, a meal for the ego, that's clearly visible.

And that's okay, really. We all do it to some extent. Altruism tends to lift our spirits and make us feel like there's a little more meaning to our lives. It's when generosity starts demanding authoritarian policy, when it becomes controlling and unresponsive to personal liberty that we've crossed the boundary into sickness.

Take this "top ten" list of quotes from Science Czar, John Holdren:
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/09/02/reminder-the-population-control-freak-the-perv-tonight-on-cbs/

Now, we've probably all seen a quote here and a quote there from this guy. But when you get them altogether, we're talking eye-popping crazy. :eek:
This guy makes Van Jones look like a piker. Van Jones is only a radical ideologue. Holdren, on the other hand, looks like a guy who needs a long stint at the whacky academy.

The common ground here is that all these folks... running the gauntlet from the merely misguided altruist to those whose sanity is frankly questionable.... set themselves above us as benevolent keepers of the common good. They feed their egos at our expense, believing that their intellect, their compassion, their generosity, is somehow superior to ours. And this can be defined by no term other than "elitist". They are ABOVE and we poor peons are BELOW.

[TinCan]

"D.C."?

Where's that?

Remember, I'm STUPID

I think it stands for Denny's in Columbus? I myself prefer either the Red Barn or Grapevine Cafe but Maud's also serves a mean cup of coffee.

[TinCan]

flip-flops

the national shoe of liberals

What's a liberal? Flip-flops are "Sunday go to meeting" attire down here in these neck o' woods.

[sisyphus]

This is not an unusual situation to force feed social engineering (read socialist) propaganda to children.
Who remembers the instituting of 'Earth Day'? with its accompanying baggage.
You know "I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you"
Time to lock and load.....

[DRS]

Harwood: Obama Opponents 'Not Smart Enough' To Raise Their Children
By Mark Finkelstein (Bio | Archive)
September 5, 2009 - 08:00 ET

A new high-tech Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Racism. And parents too dumb to raise their children.

I gotta tell you, Amy [Robach], as somebody who's covered Washington for a long time, this is one of the most ridiculous controversies I've ever seen. So far as I can tell, the biggest danger to kids in this whole thing is that a lot of the parents complaining aren't smart enough to raise them very effectively. Because if you think that a president coming into your school, kids school, and saying work hard and stay in school is a danger to kids, you've got some problems.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2009/09/05/harwood-parents-objecting-obama-school-speech-arent-smart-enough-r

I didn't believe it until I read it

I didn't think even liberals would go this far

You know if some people did not act bat ass crazy there would be no issue here

[SFC(R)L]

You know if some people did not act bat ass crazy there would be no issue here

As this is none of your business, you have a nice day.

[BigBear]

Harwood: Obama Opponents 'Not Smart Enough' To Raise Their Children
By Mark Finkelstein (Bio | Archive)
September 5, 2009 - 08:00 ET

A new high-tech Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Racism. And parents too dumb to raise their children.

I gotta tell you, Amy [Robach], as somebody who's covered Washington for a long time, this is one of the most ridiculous controversies I've ever seen. So far as I can tell, the biggest danger to kids in this whole thing is that a lot of the parents complaining aren't smart enough to raise them very effectively. Because if you think that a president coming into your school, kids school, and saying work hard and stay in school is a danger to kids, you've got some problems.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2009/09/05/harwood-parents-objecting-obama-school-speech-arent-smart-enough-r
That's pretty funny.
I do feel sorry for the few kids who will have to answer the question "Where are you going?" from their peers when the President's talk is about to begin, and will have to glumly answer "My parents are freaks. They won't let me stay and watch."
Being the subject of negative attention is never much fun for kids.

[Sknyluv]

"Because if you think that a president coming into your school, kids school, and saying work hard and stay in school is a danger to kids, you've got some problems."

I have to agree.

[SFC(R)L]

Ironically, as I post, while paying some bills, and monitoring the news sites, I am watching "Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader", and I apparently am.

[hailreagan]

You know if some people did not act bat ass crazy there would be no issue here


I know. If the Obama team and their followers wouldn't have gone all cult like pledging to him and ignoring the radical leftists in power trying to change America..........those parents would not have had those "trust" issues.

The left is acting bat ass crazy............I agree.

[hailreagan]

I would not worry about it...........the Obama speech will be generic and fine now.

[sisyphus]

Ironically, as I post, while paying some bills, and monitoring the news sites, I am watching "Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader", and I apparently am.

Multi-tasking, you should be proud..:)

[UK Glenmont]

Harwood: Obama Opponents 'Not Smart Enough' To Raise Their Children
By Mark Finkelstein (Bio | Archive)
September 5, 2009 - 08:00 ET

A new high-tech Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. Racism. And parents too dumb to raise their children.

I gotta tell you, Amy [Robach], as somebody who's covered Washington for a long time, this is one of the most ridiculous controversies I've ever seen. So far as I can tell, the biggest danger to kids in this whole thing is that a lot of the parents complaining aren't smart enough to raise them very effectively. Because if you think that a president coming into your school, kids school, and saying work hard and stay in school is a danger to kids, you've got some problems.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2009/09/05/harwood-parents-objecting-obama-school-speech-arent-smart-enough-r

I didn't believe it until I read it

I didn't think even liberals would go this far

wow, they said it out loud, cool:)

[GregMartin]

No, no, no. You all miss the point!

Its not that you're too stupid to raise your own children (although you are), its that the children don't belong to you, silly; they belong to the State.

[sisyphus]

Yup, even the 'elite' can sometimes tell the truth

[DRS]

I know. If the Obama team and their followers wouldn't have gone all cult like pledging to him and ignoring the radical leftists in power trying to change America..........those parents would not have had those "trust" issues.

The left is acting bat ass crazy............I agree.

Has the speech been given yet?

This is like the whole health care thing the WH has not acted yet and people want to assume the worst.

[sisyphus]

No, no, no. You all miss the point!

Its not that you're too stupid to raise your own children (although you are), its that the children don't belong to you, silly; they belong to the State.

Scary truth isn't it.

[hailreagan]

Has the speech been given yet?

This is like the whole health care thing the WH has not acted yet and people want to assume the worst.

No it has not. And with all this outcry and change of lesson plans, I am sure it will be harmless.

As usual, they had to make it all about him instead of the country or education. That is where they failed...................

[SFC(R)L]

No, no, no. You all miss the point!

Its not that you're too stupid to raise your own children (although you are), its that the children don't belong to you, silly; they belong to the State.

and that is the next logical step in this sequence

[UK Glenmont]

Has the speech been given yet?

This is like the whole health care thing the WH has not acted yet and people want to assume the worst.

why do YOU think we expect the worse?

have we not been watching what this guy does??

his tactics?

his people?

i dont trust him to wipe his butt without asking me to buy the newspaper for him.

[Hellsbane]

Who cares how democrats feel. Its obvious the democrats hate their children and grandchildren by how eager they are to mortgage their futures to appease their gluttony for massive power.

[sisyphus]

and that is the next logical step in this sequence

Always was part of the plan:



Abolition of Private Property.
Heavy Progressive Income Tax.
Abolition of Rights of Inheritance.
Confiscation of Property Rights.
Central Bank.
Government Ownership of Communication and Transportation.
Government Ownership of Factories and Agriculture.
Government Control of Labor.
Corporate Farms and Regional Planning.
Government Control of Education.

[JenyEliza]

wow, they said it out loud, cool:)

Yes, I actually saw this ********* say it outloud--live at about 6 am EDT today.

I was absolutely flabbergasted that he would actually say outloud what we all know they think about us.

Just WOW! :doh: :eek: :shifty:

[RTchoke]

I'm just amazed that they allowed him to have shoes with shoe laces.

Me too. :eek: I mean, they invented them there velcro closing shoes just for us morons. :)

[SFC(R)L]

Always was part of the plan:



Abolition of Private Property.
Heavy Progressive Income Tax.
Abolition of Rights of Inheritance.
Confiscation of Property Rights.
Central Bank.
Government Ownership of Communication and Transportation.
Government Ownership of Factories and Agriculture.
Government Control of Labor.
Corporate Farms and Regional Planning.
Government Control of Education.




I have a 5.56 counter plan

[SFC(R)L]

Me too. :eek: I mean, they invented them there velcro closing shoes just for us morons. :)

and those with diabetes who will be allowed to die without treatment

[UK Glenmont]

Yes, I actually saw this ********* say it outloud--live at about 6 am EDT today.

I was absolutely flabbergasted that he would actually say outloud what we all know they think about us.

Just WOW! :doh: :eek: :shifty:

use their words against them!

gather ammo (political) for 2010!

2010 is the year, not 2012.

[LJ14]

No, no, no. You all miss the point!

Its not that you're too stupid to raise your own children (although you are), its that the children don't belong to you, silly; they belong to the State.

That's the justification for it, true. But if they didn't think we were all a bunch of knuckle-dragging morons underneath it all, there wouldn't be any need for state-ownership of our children.

You're right that state-control is the goal though. Otherwise, we wouldn't be seeing countless threads with hundreds of rabid posts from statists with their drawers in a bunch. Hell, the larger majority of them don't even HAVE children, yet they present themselves as self-proclaimed experts on child-rearing. :rolleyes:

It's their inability to control people which has them frustrated The more you buck their usurped moral authority, the more the mask slips.

[UK Glenmont]

[quote=LJ14;60449701]That's the justification for it, true. But if they didn't think we were all a bunch of knuckle-dragging morons underneath it all, there wouldn't be any need for state-ownership of our children.
quote]

are you admitting there is a "need" for state-ownership of our children?

[SFC(R)L]

That's the justification for it, true. But if they didn't think we were all a bunch of knuckle-dragging morons underneath it all, there wouldn't be any need for state-ownership of our children.

You're right that state-control is the goal though. Otherwise, we wouldn't be seeing countless threads with hundreds of rabid posts from statists with their drawers in a bunch. Hell, the larger majority of them don't even HAVE children, yet they present themselves as self-proclaimed experts on child-rearing. :rolleyes:

It's their inability to control people which has them frustrated The more you buck their usurped moral authority, the more the mask slips.

excellent

[LJ14]

are you admitting there is a "need" for state-ownership of our children?

From the statist's POV, not mine.



(Thanks, SFC(R)L :) )

[sisyphus]

" ...there wouldn't be any need for state-ownership of our children."

This probably should have read: ...they wouldn't feel the need for...

Otherwise, very well said.

[Rurudyne]

I have a 5.56 counter plan
Only one?

You'll need several hundred — and several thousand friends with several hundred each — if that plan's going to work.

[UK Glenmont]

Only one?

You'll need several hundred — and several thousand friends with several hundred each — if that plan's going to work.

OR several hundreds of friends with several thousand:)

whatever works in your neck of the woods:)

[Rurudyne]

OR several hundreds of friends with several thousand:)

whatever works in your neck of the woods:)
Problem is rate of fire per solution and attrition per friend.

A thousand friends (with less ammo each) is better than a hundred with lots. Tens of thousands are better yet.

[UK Glenmont]

Problem is rate of fire per solution and attrition per friend.

A thousand friends (with less ammo each) is better than a hundred with lots. Tens of thousands are better yet.

your right, they have no training whatsoever, unless they want to kill a deer:(

what they need, is a retired military guy :)

i hope they find one:)

[Rurudyne]

your right, they have no training whatsoever, unless they want to kill a deer:(

what they need, is a retired military guy :)

i hope they find one:)
On another forum that I go to there's a retired Marine who, as a lawyer, has recently entered the Reserves as a JAG officer. They wouldn't let him remain a Sergeant though. :D

We need more people like that....

[UK Glenmont]

On another forum that I go to there's a retired Marine who, as a lawyer, has recently entered the Reserves as a JAG officer. They wouldn't let him remain a Sergeant though. :D

We need more people like that....

i will bet you he was too educated to remain a sergeant!

thats speaks for most of our military.

i had 20 guys, half were attending college.

im talking airmen, lowest ranking guys, kids, attending college, and STAYING in, as NCO"s.

you cant beat an educated military.

[Rurudyne]

Still, it was a cruel blow to a proud Marine NCO to be counted among those who don't work for a living....

[UK Glenmont]

Still, it was a cruel blow to a proud Marine NCO to be counted among those who don't work for a living....

when i took charge, i had a NCO meeting.

i told my guys "NOTHING happens around here without you guys. nothing.

i may be in charge, but you guys make things happen"

i believe that core deep.

[sisyphus]

Problem is rate of fire per solution and attrition per friend.

A thousand friends (with less ammo each) is better than a hundred with lots. Tens of thousands are better yet.

I was trained 'one shot, one target'

[Rurudyne]

I was trained 'one shot, one target'
Maybe, but most ordinary people would be little more accurate than a cartoon COBRA trooper with their weapons if it came to that.

Characters in the old GI Joe cartoon stood a better chance of getting run over by a steam boat while crossing a mountain pass than getting shot by a COBRA trooper....

[amenmesse]

No, no, no. You all miss the point!

Its not that you're too stupid to raise your own children (although you are), its that the children don't belong to you, silly; they belong to the State.

You would be referencing the Roman pignorative contract called "pignus", pledging the movables to pay the debt.
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/secondary/SMIGRA*/Pignus.html

"The word child is a word of purchase." No cite given.

"The creditor is required to exercise toward the subject matter the care of a good father of a family, footnote 32" 40 Corpus Juris p. 1356.

In ancient Rome the child was leased three times before being manumitted into his own authority, not leaving much reason to have warm and fuzzy feelings for mom or dad.

[spearmaster]

Doesn't matter

I can't read

I got stuck in Iraq

Oh yeah that's right, John Kerry said we were stoopid.

[spearmaster]

Some of their villages are missing their idiots.

A village in Kenya is missing it's idiot. :)

[spearmaster]

That's pretty funny.
I do feel sorry for the few kids who will have to answer the question "Where are you going?" from their peers when the President's talk is about to begin, and will have to glumly answer "My parents are freaks. They won't let me stay and watch."
Being the subject of negative attention is never much fun for kids.

And if kids actually knew what was best for them they would be in charge of themselves, wouldn't they? Oh wait, in a lot liberal households kids ARE in charge of themselves!

[spearmaster]

"Because if you think that a president coming into your school, kids school, and saying work hard and stay in school is a danger to kids, you've got some problems."

I have to agree.

If you ever disagree with anything that involves Obama I would be totally shocked.

[Mike Griffith]

Well, just remember that authoritarians want the government to raise your children. In ancient Sparta, the government took control of children when they turned 7years old. In Germany and Sweden, homeschooling has now been banned. Authoritarians want to force all children to attend government-run schools and eventually want government to take over the function of parenting from parents.

[SFC(R)L]

Oh yeah that's right, John Kerry said we were stoopid.

two stoopid to be aloud to vot in a lecshun

[SFC(R)L]

Only one?

You'll need several hundred — and several thousand friends with several hundred each — if that plan's going to work.

we shall see

[UK Glenmont]

I was trained 'one shot, one target'

pretty much.

that and aim for body mass, head shots are for the movies.

[sisyphus]

pretty much.

that and aim for body mass, head shots are for the movies.

Largest target available and hopefully a fairly large projectile....