View Full Version : First time I have ever considered a assault weapon purchase. Scary.
nate24168
August 28th, 2009, 6:51 pm
Today is the first day I have ever consider purchasing a assault weapon. I am getting kind of scared to be a American which I never did before.
Panther Arms sure has some nice equipment starting at $1500.
Samm
August 28th, 2009, 8:00 pm
I would never consider purchasing an assault weapon. They are far too pricey; they waste too much ammo (although, I will admit... that is a lot of fun) and I refuse to be fingerprinted and pay the ATF $200 for "permission" to own it.
And you can keep those plastic 5.56 guns; give me a good ol' M1A1 any day.
drylok
August 28th, 2009, 8:01 pm
Well I kind of got the impression that he meant he was worried that he will need it for combat on the battle field, not just home protection.
Fully agree with you though on the shotgun inside the home instead of the AR.
drylok
August 28th, 2009, 8:03 pm
I would never consider purchasing an assault weapon. They are far too pricey; they waste too much ammo (although, I will admit... that is a lot of fun) and I refuse to be fingerprinted and pay the ATF $200 for "permission" to own it.
Give me a good ol' M1A1 any day.
I'm confident the OP didn't mean it to sound like something it isn't, he's just among the masses (as once I was) who have been brainwashed.
P.S. You and your damn M1s :))
Samm
August 28th, 2009, 8:07 pm
I'm confident the OP didn't mean it to sound like something it isn't, he's just among the masses (as once I was) who have been brainwashed.
P.S. You and your damn M1s :))
Yeah... M1s are great... got me one of those... still looking for a good M1A1.
PS... My Mini-14 will do anything one of those Mattels will... for a lot less money and without so much fanfare.
drylok
August 28th, 2009, 9:04 pm
Yeah... M1s are great... got me one of those... still looking for a good M1A1.
PS... My Mini-14 will do anything one of those Mattels will... for a lot less money and without so much fanfare.
LOL I know, I just like the *shock factor* cause it ****es off the anti's
merickson
August 28th, 2009, 9:48 pm
What are you scared about?
Who do you envision using the assault weapon against?
If your opposition has tanks, having comrades in arms is far more important than which arms you or your comrades have.
You might want to read about the Orange revolution in the Ukraine and the anti-Marcos revolution in the Phillipines.
smyrna
August 29th, 2009, 12:11 am
Remington 870 12 guage 18" barrel...$269.00
reliable, devastating at close range, much greater forgiveness for accuracy in case of user error and has a tremendous psychological effect on your target when you cycle a round.
TonkaTim
August 29th, 2009, 12:16 am
Today is the first day I have ever consider purchasing a assault weapon. I am getting kind of scared to be a American which I never did before.
Panther Arms sure has some nice equipment starting at $1500.
A Craftsman brand ball pein hammer from Sears makes a great assault weapon too!
The Hell's Angels have been carrying them since the early 1960's.:think:
sgtmac_46
August 29th, 2009, 10:37 am
What are you scared about?
Who do you envision using the assault weapon against?
If your opposition has tanks, having comrades in arms is far more important than which arms you or your comrades have.
You might want to read about the Orange revolution in the Ukraine and the anti-Marcos revolution in the Phillipines.
Arms are important, however.......and interoperability and commonality of parts and ammunition are a huge factor.
For better or worse, the Stoner and it's variants are the US long gun.
sgtmac_46
August 29th, 2009, 10:39 am
Today is the first day I have ever consider purchasing a assault weapon. I am getting kind of scared to be a American which I never did before.
Panther Arms sure has some nice equipment starting at $1500.
If whoever you're dealing with is starting a DPMS at $1500..., you better run like hell!
I can get a new Robinson Arms XCR for $1300.00, loaded and delivered.
A new baseline DPMS shouldn't cost you over $1,000.00, even in this market. http://www.impactguns.com/store/dpms_223.html
The positives to the Stoner variant is that there are plenty of aftermarket parts, magazines are DIRT CHEAP, and .223 ammunition, while not exactly dirt cheap, is still cheaper than .308.
By the way, it's not an 'assault weapon'........and assault rifle is a medium powered FULLY AUTOMATIC weapon. An AR-15 is a semi-automatic carbine.
johnrocks
August 29th, 2009, 10:51 am
I would never consider purchasing an assault weapon. They are far too pricey; they waste too much ammo (although, I will admit... that is a lot of fun) and I refuse to be fingerprinted and pay the ATF $200 for "permission" to own it.
And you can keep those plastic 5.56 guns; give me a good ol' M1A1 any day.
Me too and I hate even the word "permit" as if I need someones permission to do as I please as long as I'm not hurting anyone or their property, if I did get one,it would be in the black market.
sgtmac_46
August 29th, 2009, 10:54 am
Me too and I hate even the word "permit" as if I need someones permission to do as I please as long as I'm not hurting anyone or their property, if I did get one,it would be in the black market.
In Missouri we don't require permits to purchase firearms.
merickson
August 29th, 2009, 12:48 pm
Arms are important, however.......and interoperability and commonality of parts and ammunition are a huge factor.
For better or worse, the Stoner and it's variants are the US long gun.
Che reminds us that it would be a good idea to accuire a gun that accepts ammo liberated from the (proposed) opposition forces.
johnrocks
August 29th, 2009, 12:51 pm
In Missouri we don't require permits to purchase firearms.
That's the way it should be as well as carrying them on your person or concealed ,imho.
James Juno
August 29th, 2009, 1:03 pm
That IS scary! My condolences!
I've never felt so threatened that I wished for a machine gun. Not ever. My shotgun will have to suffice to protect me and my family.
I also have a semi-automatic carbine that's a lot of fun at the range, but it stays dismantled and locked up at home. Maybe that's what you meant by "assault weapon?" Even then, go for something else. I'm thinking the courts (and possible jury) probably frown upon someone using an EBR for self-defense.
Samm
August 29th, 2009, 3:37 pm
In Missouri we don't require permits to purchase firearms.
The "permit" we were speaking of is with regard to Class III weapons.
Samm
August 29th, 2009, 3:38 pm
That's the way it should be as well as carrying them on your person or concealed ,imho.
Which is the way it is in Alaska. :razz:
Samm
August 29th, 2009, 3:42 pm
That IS scary! My condolences!
I've never felt so threatened that I wished for a machine gun. Not ever. My shotgun will have to suffice to protect me and my family.
I also have a semi-automatic carbine that's a lot of fun at the range, but it stays dismantled and locked up at home. Maybe that's what you meant by "assault weapon?" Even then, go for something else. I'm thinking the courts (and possible jury) probably frown upon someone using an EBR for self-defense.
Dismantled and locked up? Why on Earth would you do that? Are you one of those belt-and-suspenders kind of guys? :eh:
James Juno
August 29th, 2009, 5:55 pm
Dismantled and locked up? Why on Earth would you do that? Are you one of those belt-and-suspenders kind of guys? :eh:
Why does it trouble you how I handle my guns in my home? :eh:
Oh all right, given your customary tongue-in-cheek style, I guess I can answer you. I have six rambunctious grandchildren and I don't have space in my rifle safe. Parts of the gun are stored in two pistol safes. Does that make me a "belt-and-suspenders" kind of guy? ;)
mgifford
August 29th, 2009, 6:20 pm
Today is the first day I have ever consider purchasing a assault weapon. I am getting kind of scared to be a American which I never did before.
Panther Arms sure has some nice equipment starting at $1500.
Any American who has the sense to purchase one has my blessings.
mgifford
August 29th, 2009, 6:21 pm
LOL I know, I just like the *shock factor* cause it ****es off the anti's
Good for you!
CaughtInTheMiddle
August 29th, 2009, 6:24 pm
Today is the first day I have ever consider purchasing a assault weapon. I am getting kind of scared to be a American which I never did before.
Panther Arms sure has some nice equipment starting at $1500.
No worries. As soon as Palin is President you can sell it at a pawn shop.
mgifford
August 29th, 2009, 6:25 pm
Dismantled and locked up? Why on Earth would you do that? Are you one of those belt-and-suspenders kind of guys? :eh:
Is that you Beckel? LOL!
sgtmac_46
August 29th, 2009, 7:22 pm
Che reminds us that it would be a good idea to accuire a gun that accepts ammo liberated from the (proposed) opposition forces.
Exactly!
Though, for the record, Che's writings were just a rip-off of Mao.
sgtmac_46
August 29th, 2009, 7:26 pm
That IS scary! My condolences!
I've never felt so threatened that I wished for a machine gun. Not ever. My shotgun will have to suffice to protect me and my family. 'Machine guns' are belt fed and crew served.
I also have a semi-automatic carbine that's a lot of fun at the range, but it stays dismantled and locked up at home. Maybe that's what you meant by "assault weapon?" Even then, go for something else. I'm thinking the courts (and possible jury) probably frown upon someone using an EBR for self-defense.
In the real world, courts measure the reasonableness of the action, not the tool......either you were justified or not.......scary black guns are only relevant to the drive-by media.
Ironically, the perspective on 'bad gun' versus 'good gun' changes from place to place.....in Europe, fully automatic submachine guns are considered standard and acceptable for the average police officer to have slung on the street corner in many places, while the 'shotgun' is considered an inhumane tool of destruction.
sgtmac_46
August 29th, 2009, 7:28 pm
No worries. As soon as Palin is President you can sell it at a pawn shop.
What is your obsession with Palin? Is it considered 'clever' in your circles to bring up Palin in some snarky way in any conversation, and then laugh hysterically as if you made the wittiest joke in the world?
'Palin, har, har, har, heh, heh, get it......I said Palin......hehehehe.....'
Samm
August 29th, 2009, 7:45 pm
Why does it trouble you how I handle my guns in my home? :eh:
I'm not troubled... just seemed like an unnecessary step to take a gun apart and then lock up the pieces when locking it up intact makes it secure.
Oh all right, given your customary tongue-in-cheek style, I guess I can answer you. I have six rambunctious grandchildren and I don't have space in my rifle safe. Parts of the gun are stored in two pistol safes. Does that make me a "belt-and-suspenders" kind of guy? ;)
Kind of. Parts of the same gun in two different lock boxes? :razz:
Why not just install a trigger lock and let the grand kids know that touching it without your permission will get their butts whacked and lose them their customary Oreo treats? Hiding guns from kids just makes them more curious about them if they know they are there.
James Juno
August 29th, 2009, 8:44 pm
I'm not troubled... just seemed like an unnecessary step to take a gun apart and then lock up the pieces when locking it up intact makes it secure.
Kind of. Parts of the same gun in two different lock boxes? :razz:
Why not just install a trigger lock and let the grand kids know that touching it without your permission will get their butts whacked and lose them their customary Oreo treats? Hiding guns from kids just makes them more curious about them if they know they are there.
Samm, Samm, Samm. Thanks for enlightening this stupid old man. ;)
James Juno
August 29th, 2009, 8:53 pm
'Machine guns' are belt fed and crew served.
I know, thanks. Looks like my informal conversational style failed. Mean what you say and say what you mean, James!
In the real world, courts measure the reasonableness of the action, not the tool......either you were justified or not.......scary black guns are only relevant to the drive-by media.
Ironically, the perspective on 'bad gun' versus 'good gun' changes from place to place.....in Europe, fully automatic submachine guns are considered standard and acceptable for the average police officer to have slung on the street corner in many places, while the 'shotgun' is considered an inhumane tool of destruction.
I'm sure.
I live in an area rife with nanny-state liberals whom are likely to serve on juries. Here, "EBRs" with scary pistol grips and clips are considered the tools of paranoid, uneducated hillbillies. I will continue to not use the Bushmaster for home defense.