Glenn Beck doing the O'Reiley

[Stuball]

I watched the show today .He came out swinging with his talking points and blackboard nonsense. He then went into the OReiley
"All I am saying must be true because The White House doesnt contact the show to tell me I am wrong" defense ..............as if the world revolves around Becks show

Then the blaming Obama for advertisers leaving his show SHTICK
whining ( almiost to tears)about how they are trying to shut him down.He then tries to claim God will let the truth come out as if God is in Becks corner

Then as usual he has on a guest and they tell each other how smart they are .

[drylok]

what do you mean by talking points? Do you mean he said some things that are true and that he has said before?

[Stuball]

Wahateve he labeled his three things at the begining of the show

[Remus Lupin]

I thought Beck was right on on his show!

[Stuball]

I thought Beck was right on on his show!
There's a Shocker:rolleyes:

[OldBuzzard]

what do you mean by talking points? Do you mean he said some things that are true and that he has said before?

He's using the LIBERAL definition:

Talking Point
Any word, or combination of words, that exposes Obama and his cohorts for the lying, marxist weasels that they are.

[bryan92]

I didn't remember him saying the White House wasn't correcting him. I thought he said the media wasn't correcting him. I assume he meant those that should be reporting what he is reporting.

I could be wrong, but that is how I remember it.

[Cold_War_Warrior]

I watched the show today .He came out swinging with his talking points and blackboard nonsense. He then went into the OReiley
"All I am saying must be true because The White House doesnt contact the show to tell me I am wrong" defense ..............as if the world revolves around Becks show

Then the blaming Obama for advertisers leaving his show SHTICK
whining ( almiost to tears)about how they are trying to shut him down.He then tries to claim God will let the truth come out as if God is in Becks corner

Then as usual he has on a guest and they tell each other how smart they are .

Has Glen Beck said something on his show that isn’t true?

[Samm]

Has Glen Beck said something on his show that isn’t true?

:)) The direct question always shuts 'em up, doesn't it. ;)

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

I watched the show today .He came out swinging with his talking points and blackboard nonsense. He then went into the OReiley
"All I am saying must be true because The White House doesnt contact the show to tell me I am wrong" defense ..............as if the world revolves around Becks show

Then the blaming Obama for advertisers leaving his show SHTICK
whining ( almiost to tears)about how they are trying to shut him down.He then tries to claim God will let the truth come out as if God is in Becks corner

Then as usual he has on a guest and they tell each other how smart they are .

Glen Beck is well..Glen Beck. Bill O'Reilly is well...Bill O'Reilly. There is little to draw a line between the two other then, they both report/have shows on Fox news...and ..both have a bombastic style of reporting. Other then that...each is his own man.

If Glen Becks show causes delirium type states for you...then don't watch him. You have that power..and you alone.

....and...the question still stands...Has Beck said something that isn't true on his show? Has O'Reilly? I can think of a few times I've disagreed with a opinion either of the men have shared...but as to the root of a story..the facts presented..I've yet to hear a twisting or spin yet on either show.

Just saying....

~Mysty

[Samm]

Glen Beck is well..Glen Beck. Bill O'Reilly is well...Bill O'Reilly. There is little to draw a line between the two other then, they both report/have shows on Fox news...and ..both have a bombastic style of reporting. Other then that...each is his own man.

If Glen Becks show causes delirium type states for you...then don't watch him. You have that power..and you alone.

....and...the question still stands...Has Beck said something that isn't true on his show? Has O'Reilly? I can think of a few times I've disagreed with a opinion either of the men have shared...but as to the root of a story..the facts presented..I've yet to hear a twisting or spin yet on either show.

Just saying....

~Mysty

Considering that tirade (Stu's) I would venture to guess that Stu is completely wrapped up in his own little fantasy world... a world where style rules and truth and facts don't matter.

[Stuball]

I didn't remember him saying the White House wasn't correcting him. I thought he said the media wasn't correcting him. I assume he meant those that should be reporting what he is reporting.

I could be wrong, but that is how I remember it.
Why should the rest of the media care what he says?

[Stuball]

Glen Beck is well..Glen Beck. Bill O'Reilly is well...Bill O'Reilly. There is little to draw a line between the two other then, they both report/have shows on Fox news...and ..both have a bombastic style of reporting. Other then that...each is his own man.

If Glen Becks show causes delirium type states for you...then don't watch him. You have that power..and you alone.

....and...the question still stands...Has Beck said something that isn't true on his show? Has O'Reilly? I can think of a few times I've disagreed with a opinion either of the men have shared...but as to the root of a story..the facts presented..I've yet to hear a twisting or spin yet on either show.

Just saying....

~Mysty
They present opinions as facts especiallly Bec.kHe was defending what he wrote on a blackboard as if it were an official document

[Stuball]

Considering that tirade (Stu's) I would venture to guess that Stu is completely wrapped up in his own little fantasy world... a world where style rules and truth and facts don't matter.
Attacking the poster Samm?

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Considering that tirade (Stu's) I would venture to guess that Stu is completely wrapped up in his own little fantasy world... a world where style rules and truth and facts don't matter.

Style huh? Hmmmm...didn't think style mattered (or should matter) when it came to relaying a story or telling the truth. Guess I'm just getting older. :eh:

I've so little energy to spare anymore that the Keith Olberman's, O'Reilly's, Becks of the world do little to even put a blip on my radar. There are bigger issues to fry ..as it where. :shhh:

~Mysty

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

They present opinions as facts especiallly Bec.kHe was defending what he wrote on a blackboard as if it were an official document

Hmmmm....thinking about that statement...presenting opinions as facts. :think: They both present their opinions bombastically...but I have never heard either reporter spin opinion as 'facts'....soooooo
....nope...sorry...Bill, Glen..both state when something is a opinion...and when something is fact. They both even state the source of stated 'fact' and give verifiable information on where those facts where gleaned from. They both clearly state when they are sharing an opinion.

Defending one's opinion is nothing new. Hell, Keith Olberman and Racheal Maddow do it every damn day on their shows...it's their 'style' I guess?

Don't like Glenn? Don't watch him. Fairly simple.

~Mysty

[Samm]

Attacking the poster Samm?

Nope... just an observation.

[Samm]

Style huh? Hmmmm...didn't think style mattered (or should matter) when it came to relaying a story or telling the truth. Guess I'm just getting older. :eh:

I've so little energy to spare anymore that the Keith Olberman's, O'Reilly's, Becks of the world do little to even put a blip on my radar. There are bigger issues to fry ..as it where. :shhh:

~Mysty

If you don't think that style often counts for more than truth and facts, just look at Obama.

[Samm]

They present opinions as facts especiallly Bec.kHe was defending what he wrote on a blackboard as if it were an official document

I will repeat CWW's question Stu: Has Glen Beck said something on his show that isn’t true?

And I will add: If so, what specifically?

You can bluster about Beck's style all you want, but until you come up with a specific error in what he said, all you have is empty rhetoric.

[Stuball]

Nope... just an observation.
Arent your observations supposed to be about the subject and not other Honored Guests?

[Stuball]

I will repeat CWW's question Stu: Has Glen Beck said something on his show that isn’t true?

And I will add: If so, what specifically?

You can bluster about Beck's style all you want, but until you come up with a specific error in what he said, all you have is empty rhetoric.
He says he knows what other people really mean even though they havent said it and uses that against the other person.I saw him do it last night with his guest ... I admit I do not remember the specifics but it was taken from someone elses speech and Beck decided what the guy meant even though it wasnt what he said.

[freemind]

I will repeat CWW's question Stu: Has Glen Beck said something on his show that isn’t true?


Here's one:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/29/glenn-beck/glenn-beck-claims-science-czar-john-holdren-propos/

He also claimed Obama was the only president sworn in without a bible.

[Stuball]

Hmmmm....thinking about that statement...presenting opinions as facts. :think: They both present their opinions bombastically...but I have never heard either reporter spin opinion as 'facts'....soooooo
....nope...sorry...Bill, Glen..both state when something is a opinion...and when something is fact. They both even state the source of stated 'fact' and give verifiable information on where those facts where gleaned from. They both clearly state when they are sharing an opinion.

Defending one's opinion is nothing new. Hell, Keith Olberman and Racheal Maddow do it every damn day on their shows...it's their 'style' I guess?

Don't like Glenn? Don't watch him. Fairly simple.

~Mysty
Thats like saying if you dont like what I say you should ignore my posts Or I shouldnts participate on this board
I would never suggest such a thing .

I am not asking he be taken off the air bt he does act as if everyone is against him.

[Samm]

Arent your observations supposed to be about the subject and not other Honored Guests?

My arguments are restricted to the subject... my observations can be on anything I like. When I observe that the content of your post seems to originate from a world in which fact and truth are not pertinent (IMO) it is my right to point that out. Don't accuse me of personal attacks when all we have from you to debate is empty rhetoric.

[Samm]

He says he knows what other people really mean even though they havent said it and uses that against the other person.I saw him do it last night with his guest ... I admit I do not remember the specifics but it was taken from someone elses speech and Beck decided what the guy meant even though it wasnt what he said.

:rolleyes:

[Samm]

Here's one:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/29/glenn-beck/glenn-beck-claims-science-czar-john-holdren-propos/

He also claimed Obama was the only president sworn in without a bible.

Did he say those things on The Factor? That is the topic of this thread, and that was also the gist of Stu's tirade.

So I will repeat the question for you too: What specifically did he say on O'Reilly's show that was untrue?

[Stuball]

Did he say those things on The Factor? That is the topic of this thread, and that was also the gist of Stu's tirade.

So I will repeat the question for you too: What specifically did he say on O'Reilly's show that was untrue?
My title referred to how Beck is trying to make himself the story much like O'Reiley does
Are are you really asking Freemind to find something Beck said on OReileys show that wasnt true?

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Thats like saying if you dont like what I say you should ignore my posts Or I shouldnts participate on this board
I would never suggest such a thing .

I am not asking he be taken off the air bt he does act as if everyone is against him.

No..it's not like me stating something else Stu...how you twisted my words to lien it to "if I don't 'like' what you say I should ignore your posts?" :rolleyes: Damn big red herring in that little tid bit. :rolleyes:

I never even thought to twist it up to mean you shouldn't participate on the boards either. Damn big stretch of what I said. shame shame....:naughty:

Enjoy your tirade....empty though it be...

~Mysty

[Stuball]

No..it's not like me stating something else Stu...how you twisted my words to lien it to "if I don't 'like' what you say I should ignore your posts?" :rolleyes: Damn big red herring in that little tid bit. :rolleyes:

I never even thought to twist it up to mean you shouldn't participate on the boards either. Damn big stretch of what I said. shame shame....:naughty:

Enjoy your tirade....empty though it be...

~Mysty
OK maybe a wee bit But Beck still plays the victim

[Samm]

My title referred to how Beck is trying to make himself the story much like O'Reiley does
Are are you really asking Freemind to find something Beck said on OReileys show that wasnt true?

So you did... sorry. The "went into the O'Reilly" (whatever that means) threw me off since Beck was also a guest on The Factor yesterday.

However, the link freemind provided was to something Beck said on July 22, not on August 26... the day you said in your OP that you listened to his show... the day that Beck inspired your tirade.

So I repeat the original question within the proper context... for either you or feemind... What did he say on his August 26th show that was untrue?

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

I watched the actual show on Glenn Beck on the topic FreeMind sighted in his article. The article itself says exactly what Glenn Beck did...Proof's in the pudding huh?

Glenn brought up all the points the article did...and did state that the man stopped just shy of stating why we couldn't implement those practices..and for the very reason the article state we shouldn't or couldn't implement them. The article either didn't take into consideration the actual show related to the topic...or didn't care too. Just more Beck bashers. But hey...that's there whole shtick right? :rolleyes:

Again...Beck is bombastic in his style. He states facts of a story..then give opinions on those facts and the 'may go this way' or 'could lead to this' type discussions. yeah...and...so?

Much ado about nothing. Boooosshhh isn't around to bang on ..so we now have Beck and O'Reilly bashers. Sad...truly sad. Go find a hobby...do ya some good to get outside and get fresh air in those lungs guys.

~Mysty

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

OK maybe a wee bit But Beck still plays the victim

A wee bit? How about allot a bit? lol

Beck playing the victim? Hmmmm. Gotta think on that one. His style is verbose...so you can't be referring to that. His style of opinion is bombastic...which seems to be the trend in most news type shows these days, right or left colored...so you can't be referring to that either. So exactly what is it about Beck that you think is victimish..or Beck playing victim?

I've watched him a few times...he's unconventional..as many of his counterparts are...but that doesn't make them all victims.

~Mysty

[Stuball]

A wee bit? How about allot a bit? lol

Beck playing the victim? Hmmmm. Gotta think on that one. His style is verbose...so you can't be referring to that. His style of opinion is bombastic...which seems to be the trend in most news type shows these days, right or left colored...so you can't be referring to that either. So exactly what is it about Beck that you think is victimish..or Beck playing victim?

I've watched him a few times...he's unconventional..as many of his counterparts are...but that doesn't make them all victims.

~Mysty
I was referring to the fact that he thinks they are out to shut him down

[Cold_War_Warrior]

Read it and weep......

Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for August 26, 2009
5PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)

Glenn Beck– 3,040,000 viewers (888,000) (1,385,000)
Situation Room—688,000 viewers (141,000) (271,000)
Hardball w/ Chris Matthews—536,000 viewers (139,000) (217,000)
Fast Money—215,000 viewers (55,000) (80,000)
Prime News–267,000 viewers (97,000) (109,000)

Beck has nearly double the audience of the competition combined in his time slot.

[Cold_War_Warrior]

And, for O'Reilly's time slot....

8PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor– 3,303,000 viewers (876,000) (1,468,000)
Teddy: In His Own Words- 1,104,000 viewers (293,000) (547,000)
Countdown w/ K. Olbermann– 1,091,000 viewers (320,000) (504,000)
Secrets of the Knight – 181,000 viewers (68,000) (95,000)
Nancy Grace – 757,000 viewers (239,000) (315,000)

[Cold_War_Warrior]

And, for the O'Reilly repeat...

11 PM P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
The O’Reilly Factor —1,651,000 viewers (514,000) (822,000)
Anderson Cooper 360 —615,000 viewers (228,000) (299,000)
Headliners and Legends—658,000 viewers (235,000) (359,000)
Mad Money – a scratch w/101,000 viewers (66,000) (53,000)
Showbiz Tonight– 377,000 viewers (212,000) (249,000)

[Cold_War_Warrior]

And, for Mr. Hannity...

9 PM – P2+ (25-54) (35-64)
Hannity –2,592,000 viewers (752,000) (1,158,000)
Larry King Live—1,182,000 viewers (299,000) (473,000)
Hardball w Chris Matthews—1,123,000 viewers (381,000) (583,000)
American Greed – 242,000 viewers (108,000) (124,000)
Issues- 567,000 viewers (191,000) (311,000)

[Samm]

I was referring to the fact that he thinks they are out to shut him down

Do you have any evidence to prove that they are not? :eh:

Have you ever heard of the Fairness Doctrine? :eh:

Have you ever heard the term "media diversity"? :eh:

Have you ever bothered to read what FCC "Czar" Mark Lloyd has to say about talk radio and FOX News shows? :eh:


Beck may be a bit paranoid, but that does not mean that they are not out to get him.

[Stuball]

Do you have any evidence to prove that they are not? :eh:

Have you ever heard of the Fairness Doctrine? :eh:

Have you ever heard the term "media diversity"? :eh:

Have you ever bothered to read what FCC "Czar" Mark Lloyd has to say about talk radio and FOX News shows? :eh:


Beck may be a bit paranoid, but that does not mean that they are not out to get him.
I dont know how to prove something ISNT happening .
Have you heard of one instance of Obama shutting up or attempting to shut up a media outlet?Or Beck himeself?

[Samm]

I dont know how to prove something ISNT happening .
Have you heard of one instance of Obama shutting up or attempting to shut up a media outlet?Or Beck himeself?

I repeat... Have you ever bothered to read what FCC "Czar" Mark Lloyd has to say about talk radio and FOX News shows?

[Stuball]

I repeat... Have you ever bothered to read what FCC "Czar" Mark Lloyd has to say about talk radio and FOX News shows?
Czar ?
What has Mr LLoyd FCC Chief Diversity officer done to shut up or shut down any one?

[Samm]

Czar ?
What has Mr LLoyd FCC Chief Diversity officer done to shut up or shut down any one?

The position is new... he is just getting started.

[Stuball]

The position is new... he is just getting started.
In other words (word)

NOTHING

[Samm]

In other words (word)

NOTHING

This is your thread Stu... it is up to you to support your assertions, not me. So far you have provided... what's the word? Oh yeah...

NOTHING


:razz:

[Stuball]

This is your thread Stu... it is up to you to support your assertions, not me. So far you have provided... what's the word? Oh yeah...

NOTHING


:razz:
http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=59965091&postcount=1
I watched the show Monday.I was posting on Becks Monday show
Which of these things I listed in my OP ........DID NOT HAPPEN?

[Samm]

http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=59965091&postcount=1
I watched the show Monday.I was posting on Becks Monday show
Which of these things I listed in my OP ........DID NOT HAPPEN?

That is not the point... nobody questioned what Beck did on his show. That is his style.

The point is; which of the things that Beck said on that show were not true? You have yet to answer that.

All you have in rhetoric... old tired boring rhetoric... :neutral:

[Stuball]

That is not the point... nobody questioned what Beck did on his show. That is his style.

The point is; which of the things that Beck said on that show were not true? You have yet to answer that.

All you have in rhetoric... old tired boring rhetoric... :neutral:
I never claimed he said anything that wasnt true.IMO he connected dots that werent there

[Samm]

And there you have it folks. :rolleyes:

[Stuball]

And there you have it folks. :rolleyes:
I can say for a fact that 2+3=5 but that doesnt prove Obama is trying to shut down Glenn Beck and neither do any of the things Beck was trying to connect to each other Monday Night

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

I was referring to the fact that he thinks they are out to shut him down

O.K...I'll bite....thinking or 'hearing' some orgs are trying to shut you down is now being a victim...or playing a victim? Huh? Play that one by me again slow so I can understand your point.

There are those orgs/agency out there who scream and shout that the Becks and O'Reillys of the world are causing dissent in the nation..confusing people with facts...giving opinions that shouldn't be given. In fact...Glenn and Bill are more hated for not being good little followers like NBC/MSNBC are. (Your papers are not in order...hands up! ) So yes...they try to get advertiser to pull their commercials from those shows. Looks like in Becks case..it worked on a few products. yeah? and? so? It's fact Stu...not gossip fodder.Facts is what I like to stick too.

Becks a big boy...I don't hear him lamenting the fact that these few advertisers pulled..I dont' see him changing his tune...I don't see him hopping from one leg to the other trying to retract...do you? So..question stands...what makes Beck a victim?

~Mysty

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

I can say for a fact that 2+3=5 but that doesnt prove Obama is trying to shut down Glenn Beck and neither do any of the things Beck was trying to connect to each other Monday Night

Obama is trying to shut Beck down? Or a few in the Obama admin is trying to deflect from his message as people are now actually listening? Come on Stu...be honest...if you really listen to what Glen says..he's very open when something is a fact...when it's something someone has stated and when they stated it...or when it's his opinion or his connecting of dots. He then leaves it up to his audience to think for themselves. Gee..what a monster he is for doing that huh? :eh:

~Mysty

[Stuball]

O.K...I'll bite....thinking or 'hearing' some orgs are trying to shut you down is now being a victim...or playing a victim? Huh? Play that one by me again slow so I can understand your point.

There are those orgs/agency out there who scream and shout that the Becks and O'Reillys of the world are causing dissent in the nation..confusing people with facts...giving opinions that shouldn't be given. In fact...Glenn and Bill are more hated for not being good little followers like NBC/MSNBC are. (Your papers are not in order...hands up! ) So yes...they try to get advertiser to pull their commercials from those shows. Looks like in Becks case..it worked on a few products. yeah? and? so? It's fact Stu...not gossip fodder.Facts is what I like to stick too.

Becks a big boy...I don't hear him lamenting the fact that these few advertisers pulled..I dont' see him changing his tune...I don't see him hopping from one leg to the other trying to retract...do you? So..question stands...what makes Beck a victim?

~Mysty
The show was almost a week ago I dont remember his exact words but he was saying something like even if he is shut dowm God will know the truth

[Stuball]

Obama is trying to shut Beck down? Or a few in the Obama admin is trying to deflect from his message as people are now actually listening? Come on Stu...be honest...if you really listen to what Glen says..he's very open when something is a fact...when it's something someone has stated and when they stated it...or when it's his opinion or his connecting of dots. He then leaves it up to his audience to think for themselves. Gee..what a monster he is for doing that huh? :eh:

~Mysty
He presents facts and then tell his audience what those facts mean(in his opinionof course) He will rarely have on a guest to counter those opinions only people that agree with him .I saw the video of the Acorn guy where Beck kicked him off the show during the commercials because he said the guy said that HE (Beck) hated coolored people
Ironically Beck went on Fox and Friends and said Obama hated White Folks which led to the sponsers withdrawing their ads from his show

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

The show was almost a week ago I dont remember his exact words but he was saying something like even if he is shut dowm God will know the truth

Kaaay...and this makes him a victim how again? I'm pressing for proof of your assertions. Much in the same way you are pressing the topic with Glenn.

You don't have to like the guy...you don't have to listen to him. He's just some guy on t.v....we've got lots of um...being what D-Law calls a correspondent...not newsmen/anchormen.

Our news should make us think. I don't want my facts watered down by PC-ism. I simply want facts to make up my own mind on what is what. That is how it should be...right?

~Mysty

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

He presents facts and then tell his audience what those facts mean(in his opinionof course) He will rarely have on a guest to counter those opinions only people that agree with him .I saw the video of the Acorn guy where Beck kicked him off the show during the commercials because he said the guy said that HE (Beck) hated coolored people
Ironically Beck went on Fox and Friends and said Obama hated White Folks which led to the sponsers withdrawing their ads from his show

I remember the show your referring too. Some big mucky muck from Acorn..who couldn't give a straight answer to save his life. :rolleyes: Beck has people on who disagree with him...just as O'Reilly does. Does it all the time. Lately however, due to the Glenn derangement syndrome...Beck has choose to expose what the public rarely hears about within the industry itself...pressure. Anyone who takes away or challenged the messages that come out of the Obama white house is an enemy...and Beck now knows exactly what that feels like. K...so? That he openly talks about his experience makes him a victim?

Also..one small correction...Beck made the statement that Obama is a racist. it was on Fox and Friends two weeks ago now. He was immediately countered by co-hosts on Fox and Friends as to why they thought his statement was wrong. yeah...k? so?

Your missing the larger picture Stu. There are enough talking heads out there that no one talking head is being solely listened to and followed by any large group populace. The Becks and O'Reilly's are being listened too more and more as they give the story first...state the facts...then state their opinion on it...then state..."You decide". Hmmmm...mighty big of them to tell us to think for ourselves right?

Still waiting...how is Beck a victim/playing a victim?

~Mysty

[Stuball]

I remember the show your referring too. Some big mucky muck from Acorn..who couldn't give a straight answer to save his life. :rolleyes: Beck has people on who disagree with him...just as O'Reilly does. Does it all the time. Lately however, due to the Glenn derangement syndrome...Beck has choose to expose what the public rarely hears about within the industry itself...pressure. Anyone who takes away or challenged the messages that come out of the Obama white house is an enemy...and Beck now knows exactly what that feels like. K...so? That he openly talks about his experience makes him a victim?

Also..one small correction...Beck made the statement that Obama is a racist. it was on Fox and Friends two weeks ago now. He was immediately countered by co-hosts on Fox and Friends as to why they thought his statement was wrong. yeah...k? so?

Your missing the larger picture Stu. There are enough talking heads out there that no one talking head is being solely listened to and followed by any large group populace. The Becks and O'Reilly's are being listened too more and more as they give the story first...state the facts...then state their opinion on it...then state..."You decide". Hmmmm...mighty big of them to tell us to think for ourselves right?

Still waiting...how is Beck a victim/playing a victim?

~Mysty
When was the last time Beck presented an opposing viewpoint on his show?
BDS? (Beck not Bush:)) Then He should have on opposing viewpoints so he can calmly and rationally debate them
The White House is not beholden to Beck to answer all of his accusations and/or theories
On F&F He said Obama has a deep hatred for White people so the guy called him on it and he answered by denying he said it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI_0Kt_e3Go

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

When was the last time Beck presented an opposing viewpoint on his show?
BDS? (Beck not Bush:)) Then He should have on opposing viewpoints so he can calmly and rationally debate them
The White House is not beholden to Beck to answer all of his accusations and/or theories
On F&F He said Obama has a deep hatred for White people so the guy called him on it and he answered by denying he said it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI_0Kt_e3Go

Your side stepping and dancing... again. How is Beck a victim? What makes him in your opinion a victim? Still waiting.

You keep describing why you don't like him. You don't have too Stu. no one is holding a gun to your head and making you like him much less making you watch him. I get you don't like the guy...K...and here's the but...you've made statements of fact that you have yet to prove out. In fact, you keep proving out what others have rebutted your posts with. Not good m'man..not good. :think:

You don't have to agree with the guy...don't have to validate his opinions...but you've made declarative statements about Beck that you've yet to produce proof of yet. Soooo...still waiting....I fear it's gonna be a long wait. :eh:

*side note* I don't watch Beck every day. I catch him here and there. I'm not really into his style as a commentator. Beck's amusing to watch sometimes...and that's as far as I take it*

~Mysty

[Stuball]

Your side stepping and dancing... again. How is Beck a victim? What makes him in your opinion a victim? Still waiting.

You keep describing why you don't like him. You don't have too Stu. no one is holding a gun to your head and making you like him much less making you watch him. I get you don't like the guy...K...and here's the but...you've made statements of fact that you have yet to prove out. In fact, you keep proving out what others have rebutted your posts with. Not good m'man..not good. :think:

You don't have to agree with the guy...don't have to validate his opinions...but you've made declarative statements about Beck that you've yet to produce proof of yet. Soooo...still waiting....I fear it's gonna be a long wait. :eh:

*side note* I don't watch Beck every day. I catch him here and there. I'm not really into his style as a commentator. Beck's amusing to watch sometimes...and that's as far as I take it*

~Mysty
IMO He is implying that they are going to shut him(whoever they are) down for voicing his opinion, thus portraying himself the victim of whoever he thinks is going to shut him down. I have seen no effort by anyone whatsoever so shut him up or down

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

IMO He is implying that they are going to shut him(whoever they are) down for voicing his opinion, thus portraying himself the victim of whoever he thinks is going to shut him down. I have seen no effort by anyone whatsoever so shut him up or down

Thank you. That was clear, concise and actually well thought out.

Advertisers...it's what he is speaking too. Pull enough advertising dollars...ie money... off any show and the show can or may be pulled. That's simple economics.

If that happens...which it won't...but if it did; who do you think is to blame if not those who work to get him off the air? Now who those people are who are pulling advertisers off that show...who do you think they support? That doesn't mean Obama himself...I wouldn't' even go that far...but I'm sure you'd agree the far left fringe loonies would love to take Beck down, or take the credit for taking down someone like Beck in the name of the current admin. That's fact Stu....not opinion. It's to that that Beck is speaking to directly..and it's making said far left fringe loonies very nervous. If anyone is playing victim..it's the far left loonies that no one wants to claim. Not even the Obama white house. :shhh::think::shhh:

Dig a bit on Google...you'll see what campaign is currently underway to pull advertisers from Becks Fox show. Fairly easy to find. Happy reading.....

~Mysty

[Stuball]

Thank you. That was clear, concise and actually well thought out.

Advertisers...it's what he is speaking too. Pull enough advertising dollars...ie money... off any show and the show can or may be pulled. That's simple economics.

If that happens...which it won't...but if it did; who do you think is to blame if not those who work to get him off the air? Now who those people are who are pulling advertisers off that show...who do you think they support? That doesn't mean Obama himself...I wouldn't' even go that far...but I'm sure you'd agree the far left fringe loonies would love to take Beck down, or take the credit for taking down someone like Beck in the name of the current admin. That's fact Stu....not opinion. It's to that that Beck is speaking to directly..and it's making said far left fringe loonies very nervous. If anyone is playing victim..it's the far left loonies that no one wants to claim. Not even the Obama white house. :shhh::think::shhh:

Dig a bit on Google...you'll see what campaign is currently underway to pull advertisers from Becks Fox show. Fairly easy to find. Happy reading.....

~MystyI dont think there would be anyone is to "Blame" anymore then there is anyone to blame when ANY TV show goes off the air
I know about ColorofChange but I think the bottom line is that advertisers make the Final Decision as to what shows they want to support
They choose to advertise with on Becks show and now for whatever reason they are choosing to exercise their option to withdraw ther sponsorship ,If they choose to stay that is their option as well

[Samm]

Geese Stu... you still going at it? :eh: Man you must hate this guy Beck... what's the problem? Does he owe you money or something? Why should you care at all that he thinks that the FCC Czar is "out to get him" (your words, not Beck's) ? You gave your unsupported opinion... we gave you ours... let it go fella.

BTW...Beck has made it perfectly clear that he does not care if the Government puts him off the air. He cares only that his honor will remain intact regardless of what happens to him. Expressing his opinions... and he does provide evidence to support his opinions, even if some of it is circumstantial... is (in his opinion and in that of a great many other people) a God given right and no man will take that away from him. And he would defend your right to express your opinions just as vigorously... no matter how cockamamie they may be.

Effectively he is telling Lloyd... 'go ahead, take me off the air... I will not be intimidated.'

[Stuball]

Geese Stu... you still going at it? :eh: Man you must hate this guy Beck... what's the problem? Does he owe you money or something? Why should you care at all that he thinks that the FCC Czar is "out to get him" (your words, not Beck's) ? You gave your unsupported opinion... we gave you ours... let it go fella.

BTW...Beck has made it perfectly clear that he does not care if the Government puts him off the air. He cares only that his honor will remain intact regardless of what happens to him. Expressing his opinions... and he does provide evidence to support his opinions, even if some of it is circumstantial... is (in his opinion and in that of a great many other people) a God given right and no man will take that away from him. And he would defend your right to express your opinions just as vigorously... no matter how cockamamie they may be.

Effectively he is telling Lloyd... 'go ahead, take me off the air... I will not be intimidated.'
Aww Samm.......................... me and Misty were just havin a lil fun

[Samm]

Aww Samm.......................... me and Misty were just havin a lil fun

I have been having fun with you too... But having fun with you is like torturing tadpoles... after a while one begins to feel ashamed of taking gratuitous advantage of a helpless critter. :razz:

[Stuball]

I have been having fun with you too... But having fun with you is like torturing tadpoles... after a while one begins to feel ashamed of taking gratuitous advantage of a helpless critter. :razz:
You say potato I say.......................... Beck is a potahto head:lol:

[Stuball]

Beck on with 2 guests. Guess What?Both agree with him 1000%
Democrats are all Socialists Mark Lloyd is a Marxist . yada yada yada oooooops make that 3 guests .............the third one loooks scary
EXTREMISTS EXTREMISTS EXTREMIST OBAMAS PEOPLE ARE ALLL EXTREMISTS:rolleyes:

Heres number 4 a black pastor that attended 9/12/ rallies and guess what ????He is 100% behind Beck
Radicals .........Communists ............Marxists OH MY
Oh my God this is funny

[Stuball]

Another Beck Show without him having a guest that dares to disagree with Beck
He made that last guy Patrick Courruelche sound like a Martyr . What else is new?
Coincidently there is a link to Becks web site ( along with many other right winger hosts and pundits) on Courrielches :rolleyes:site ...............Im just sayin