Oops, Happy Ramadan

[The Bos'un]

Sorry I did not post this before. Courtesy of President Barak Hussein Obama (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-of-President-Barack-Obama-in-Ramadan-Message/), 44th President of the United States

Below is the text of a web video from President Obama marking the beginning of Ramadan. Video of the President’s message is available HERE. (http://www.whitehouse.gov/videos/2009/August/20090821_Ramadan.mp4)

Remarks of President Barack Obama
Ramadan Message
Washington, DC

On behalf of the American people – including Muslim communities in all fifty states – I want to extend best wishes to Muslims in America and around the world. Ramadan Kareem.
Ramadan is the month in which Muslims believe the Koran was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad, beginning with a simple word – iqra. It is therefore a time when Muslims reflect upon the wisdom and guidance that comes with faith, and the responsibility that human beings have to one another, and to God.

Like many people of different faiths who have known Ramadan through our communities and families, I know this to be a festive time – a time when families gather, friends host iftars, and meals are shared. But I also know that Ramadan is a time of intense devotion and reflection – a time when Muslims fast during the day and perform tarawih prayers at night, reciting and listening to the entire Koran over the course of the month.

These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.

For instance, fasting is a concept shared by many faiths – including my own Christian faith – as a way to bring people closer to God, and to those among us who cannot take their next meal for granted. And the support that Muslims provide to others recalls our responsibility to advance opportunity and prosperity for people everywhere. For all of us must remember that the world we want to build – and the changes that we want to make – must begin in our own hearts, and our own communities.

This summer, people across America have served in their communities – educating children, caring for the sick, and extending a hand to those who have fallen on hard times. Faith-based organizations, including many Islamic organizations, have been at the forefront in participating in this summer of service. And in these challenging times, this is a spirit of responsibility that we must sustain in the months and years to come.

Beyond America’s borders, we are also committed to keeping our responsibility to build a world that is more peaceful and secure. That is why we are responsibly ending the war in Iraq. That is why we are isolating violent extremists while empowering the people in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan. That is why we are unyielding in our support for a two-state solution that recognizes the rights of Israelis and Palestinians to live in peace and security. And that is why America will always stand for the universal rights of all people to speak their mind, practice their religion, contribute fully to society and have confidence in the rule of law.

All of these efforts are a part of America’s commitment to engage Muslims and Muslim-majority nations on the basis of mutual interest and mutual respect. And at this time of renewal, I want to reiterate my commitment to a new beginning between America and Muslims around the world.

As I said in Cairo, this new beginning must be borne out in a sustained effort to listen to each other, to learn from each other, to respect one another, and to seek common ground. I believe an important part of this is listening, and in the last two months, American embassies around the world have reached out not just to governments, but directly to people in Muslim-majority countries. From around the world, we have received an outpouring of feedback about how America can be a partner on behalf of peoples’ aspirations.

We have listened. We have heard you. And like you, we are focused on pursuing concrete actions that will make a difference over time – both in terms of the political and security issues that I have discussed, and in the areas that you have told us will make the most difference in peoples’ lives.

These consultations are helping us implement the partnerships that I called for in Cairo – to expand education exchange programs; to foster entrepreneurship and create jobs; and to increase collaboration on science and technology, while supporting literacy and vocational learning. We are also moving forward in partnering with the OIC and OIC member states to eradicate polio, while working closely with the international community to confront common health challenges like H1N1 – which I know is of particular to concern to many Muslims preparing for the upcoming hajj.

All of these efforts are aimed at advancing our common aspirations – to live in peace and security; to get an education and to work with dignity; to love our families, our communities, and our God. It will take time and patient effort. We cannot change things over night, but we can honestly resolve to do what must be done, while setting off in a new direction – toward the destination that we seek for ourselves, and for our children. That is the journey that we must travel together.

I look forward to continuing this critically important dialogue and turning it into action. And today, I want to join with the 1.5 billion Muslims around the world – and your families and friends – in welcoming the beginning of Ramadan, and wishing you a blessed month. May God’s peace be upon you.

[sgdp]

I attempt the fasting every year. Healthy for ya, and I have Muslim friends who are also fasting. Helps to not be the only one. Only they always do much better. :)

[The Bos'un]

Have you converted yet, or are you considering it?

[The Bos'un]

President Obama is so nice, All of these efforts are aimed at advancing our common aspirations – to live in peace and security; to get an education and to work with dignity; to love our families, our communities, and our God. It will take time and patient effort. We cannot change things over night, but we can honestly resolve to do what must be done, while setting off in a new direction – toward the destination that we seek for ourselves, and for our children. That is the journey that we must travel together.

[sgdp]

Have you converted yet, or are you considering it?

I just fast with friends for the health benefits. I'm Buddhist.

[The Bos'un]

That is nice.... Are Bhuddists treated well by Muslims?

[The Bos'un]

President Obama has good Karma, that is for sure....

[sgdp]

That is nice.... Are Bhuddists treated well by Muslims?

Muslims have been so extremely kind to me. :)

[The Bos'un]

That is nice, sgdp. How do they feel about polytheism?

[The Bos'un]

When I was taking world religion classes in college, I interviewed a couple Buddhist friends for one of my college papers. I also interviewed a Hindu Priest and his staff. In both cases we also discussed Islam and Christianity. In American one can practice about any religion one wants to..

If you were in Saudi Arabia, could you openly practice Buddhism?

[The Bos'un]

He is so wise and considerate toward others....

[The Bos'un]

It is nice that President Obama believes that Christianity and Muhammad's Islam have so much in common... But I also know that Ramadan is a time of intense devotion and reflection – a time when Muslims fast during the day and perform tarawih prayers at night, reciting and listening to the entire Koran over the course of the month.

These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.

[sgdp]

That is nice, sgdp. How do they feel about polytheism?

Most every one I know is very care-free. They are happy to have their religion and happy to live and let live.

[sgdp]

When I was taking world religion classes in college, I interviewed a couple Buddhist friends for one of my college papers. I also interviewed a Hindu Priest and his staff. In both cases we also discussed Islam and Christianity. In American one can practice about any religion one wants to..

If you were in Saudi Arabia, could you openly practice Buddhism?

I don't know Saudi Arabian culture very well. Never studied nor visited.

[The Bos'un]

Care free and tolerant? President Obama said the same thing. It is good to see so much love and peace from them....

[The Bos'un]

Have you been to any Muslim countries outside of the United States?

[sgdp]

Have you been to any Muslim countries outside of the United States?

I'm too broke to travel. I like to prioritize.

[The Bos'un]

It may be safer to stay in a country that is tolerant.....

[sgdp]

It may be safer to stay in a country that is tolerant.....

What zactly you driving at?

[The Bos'un]

What are you driving at?

[The Bos'un]

I am trying to be nice. I posted President Obama's Happy Ramada message and think it is nice of him to be so thoughtful.

[sgdp]

What are you driving at?

You started the thread. That's why I asked. You seem to be trying to prove to me that Muslims are prejudiced?

[The Bos'un]

Did I say that? I am simply asking what your impressions are. I am trying to be nice. If you notice, I am also reflecting on what President Obama is saying.

[sgdp]

Did I say that? I am simply asking what your impressions are. I am trying to be nice. If you notice, I am also reflecting on what President Obama is saying.

I feel it was implied in the sarcastic tone I picked up. If I'm wrong, I do apologize.

[The Bos'un]

I am trying to understand why you, a practicing Buddhist, would fast Ramadan with Muslim friends?

Do you also pray their prayers, too? Hey I am just trying to understand....

[The Bos'un]

Would you feel OK with President Obama fasting during Ramadan with his friends if he decided to?

I realize he is a Reverend Wright Christian and probably is an apostate. Just curious.

[sgdp]

I am trying to understand why you, a practicing Buddhist, would fast Ramadan with Muslim friends?

Do you also pray their prayers, too? Hey I am just trying to understand....


I already answered your question. Seems clear to me you have something against Muslims and I'm not buying this front.

/thread

[Antrel]

Would you feel OK with President Obama fasting during Ramadan with his friends if he decided to?

I realize he is a Reverend Wright Christian and probably is an apostate. Just curious.Why wouldn't anyone feel OK with it? Fasting can be a great way to detoxify the system and in many cases increases mental awareness. I fasted for Ramadan with my father and we, like many Muslims, donate the money we'd otherwise be spending on food to those in need. So yes, Happy Ramadan, and the selflessness of many, if not most, who practice it.

[hatman]

Why wouldn't anyone feel OK with it? Fasting can be a great way to detoxify the system and in many cases increases mental awareness. I fasted for Ramadan with my father and we, like many Muslims, donate the money we'd otherwise be spending on food to those in need. So yes, Happy Ramadan, and the selflessness of many, if not most, who practice it.

Happy Ramadan, Antrel.

I could stand to do some fasting myself. :)

[snagswolf]

These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.
List of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 2 Months
Date Country City Killed Injured Description
2009.08.25 Thailand Narathiwat 0 42 Islamists injure forty-two people with a powerful car bomb ouside a restaurant.
2009.08.25 Afghanistan Kandahar 41 66 Religious extremists detonate several car bombs outside a construction company, incinerating at least forty souls.
2009.08.25 Chechnya Mesker-Yurt 4 3 A suicide bomber attacks a car wash, killing four people.
2009.08.24 Pakistan Khyber Pass 1 1 Islamic militants murder a journalist riding on a bus.
2009.08.24 Iraq Abu Ghraib 2 0 A professor in his home is among two people murdered by Mujahideen.
2009.08.23 Somalia Mogadishu 6 12 Six civilians are killed by gunfire as Hizb Al-Islam vows to step up Ramadan violence.
2009.08.23 Pakistan Sarjani 3 0 A man guns down his wife and two daughters on suspicion of 'loose character.'
2009.08.23 Iraq Abu Khamis 2 0 A man and his son are murdered by al-Qaeda bombers.
2009.08.23 Pakistan Momin 3 15 A Shahid suicide bomber targets a funeral, killing three people, including two women.
2009.08.23 Pakistan Bajaur 1 2 A guard is killed when sectarian Jihadis fire into a rival mosque.
2009.08.23 Thailand Narathiwat 2 3 Two local soldiers are killed in a brutal ambush by Muslim militants.
2009.08.23 Pakistan South Waziristan 4 0 Islamic radicals attack a vehicle carrying a tribal elder, leaving him and three family members dead.
2009.08.22 Afghanistan Kandahar 0 2 Taliban fundamentalists cut the fingers off of two women for voting in the election.
2009.08.22 Pakistan Peshawar 2 3 A suicide bomber takes out two innocents near a hospital.
2009.08.22 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two girls are shot to death by suspected Sunni terrorists.
2009.08.22 Thailand Yala 3 4 Muslim militants stop a vehicle with a bomb, then machine-gun three occupants to death.
2009.08.22 Iraq Mosul 3 0 Mujahideen bombers kill a local mayor and two young children.
2009.08.22 Thailand Narathiwat 1 2 Mujahideen fire into a pickup truck, killing a man and seriously injuring his wife and son.
2009.08.22 Iraq Mosul 1 0 Jihadis kidnap a civilian, then slit his throat.
2009.08.22 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Fundamentalists murder a liquor store owner and one other person.
2009.08.22 Afghanistan Baghlan 6 0 Taliban bombers send six Afghan police to Allah.
2009.08.22 Thailand Yala 3 4 Three public servants are blasted to death by Muslim terrorists.
2009.08.21 Pakistan Peshawar 1 1 Islamic extremists fire on a police patrol, killing one officer.
2009.08.21 Afghanistan Balkh 1 0 An election official is murdered by Sunni radicals.
2009.08.21 Iraq Mosul 4 1 Sunni insurgents blow up four local soldiers with a car bomb along a city street.
2009.08.21 Chechnya Grozny 5 3 Separate Shahid suicide attacks leave five people dead.
2009.08.21 Afghanistan Ghazni 2 0 Islamic extremists attack a polling station, killing two defenders.
2009.08.21 Somalia Mogadishu 22 40 Nearly two-dozen civilians lose their lives to an assault by Islamic terrorists.
2009.08.21 Afghanistan Helmand 6 0 Six civilians are blown to bits by a Taliban landmine.
2009.08.21 Pakistan Multan 1 2 A girl dies from injuries after three sisters are tortured by the their brothers for leaving the house without permission.
2009.08.21 Iraq Baghdad 2 20 Two people are murdered at a market after terrorists plant a bomb in a vegetable cart.
2009.08.20 Iraq Babel 6 80 Six civilians are killed in two Jihad bombings, one at a market.
2009.08.20 Philippines Cotabato 1 20 Islamic terrorists toss a grenade at a wedding party, killing at least one member.
2009.08.20 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A Buddhist villager is murdered by Muslim gunmen while working on his motorcycle.
2009.08.20 Afghanistan Kandahar 1 0 The Taliban kill a man with a rocket attack.
2009.08.20 Somalia Bulahawa 12 8 A dozen people lose their lives to al-Shabaab violence.
2009.08.20 Somalia Ahlu Sunna 33 22 Thirty-three people are killed when Ahlu Sunna fundamentalists lay siege to a town.
2009.08.19 Iraq Baghdad 95 563 Islamic bombers stage several coordinated blasts and manage to kill nearly one-hundred Iraqis and injure about six-hundred others.
2009.08.19 Pakistan Bajaur 3 0 Three people are shot to death by suspected Taliban.
2009.08.19 Iraq Kirkuk 0 0 Islamic militants kidnap and murder a Christian doctor.
2009.08.19 Afghanistan Kandahar 4 0 Two government officials are taken down by a Taliban landmine. Another roadside attack elsewhere leaves two police dead.
2009.08.19 Thailand Yala 1 0 A villager is shot five times by Islamists while walking to a market.
2009.08.19 Afghanistan Spin Boldak 4 0 Religious extremists plant a bomb that leaves four Afghans dead.
2009.08.19 Philippines Guindulungan 1 1 Muslim terrorists storm a village and kill a 41-year-old resident.
2009.08.19 Belgium Jette 0 1 A man who says he was sent by Allah to punish women who wear makeup, walks into a beauty salon and attacks an employee whil quoting the Qur'an.
2009.08.19 Afghanistan Paktika 4 0 Four civilians, including two women, are blown to bits by a Mujahideen roadside bomb.
2009.08.18 Somalia Bulahawa 1 0 A 41-year-old Christian is hunted down and shot to death for leaving Islam.
2009.08.18 Pakistan Miranshah 7 4 A suicidal Sunni rams a group of local soldiers with an explosives-laden car, killing four, along with three civilian passersby.
2009.08.18 Afghanistan Badakshan 4 0 Taliban terrorists murder all four workers transporting election materials.
2009.08.18 Afghanistan Uruzgan 5 0 A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out five Afghanis.
2009.08.18 Iraq Baghdad 2 15 Mujahideen plant a bomb near a school that leaves two people dead.
2009.08.18 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two civilians are killed in separate Jihad bombings.
2009.08.18 Afghanistan Kabul 8 53 Holy Warriors murder eight in a brutal suicide car bomb attack along a city street.
2009.08.18 Pakistan Peshawar 1 0 A civilian is kidnapped and beheaded by Religion of Peace militants.
2009.08.17 Pakistan Sindh 1 6 A local leader is killed in a sectarian attack.
2009.08.17 Pakistan Peshawar 7 9 Three children and two women are among seven innocents blown to bits by a Fedayeen car bomber at a gas station.
2009.08.17 Ingushetia Nazran 25 160 A suicide bomber rams an explosives-laden car into a government building, causing at least twenty other deaths.
2009.08.17 Iraq Mussayab 2 1 Suspected al-Qaeda gun down two Iraqis at a checkpoint.
2009.08.17 Afghanistan Kabul 1 0 An American civilian is killed during a Taliban attack in the eastern part of the country.
2009.08.16 Thailand Yala 1 0 Muslim extremists slit the throat of a Buddhist rubber plantation worker.
2009.08.16 Iraq Fallujah 4 5 al-Qaeda gunmen attack a home, killing four residents.
2009.08.16 India Doda 1 0 A 26-year-old man is abducted and shot to death by Mujahideen.
2009.08.16 Pakistan Swat 1 3 At least one Pakistani is killed by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2009.08.16 Pakistan Swat 21 0 The bodies of twenty-one victims of Taliban executions are discovered in three locations.
2009.08.16 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two men are shot to death by Mujahideen.
2009.08.16 Iraq Baghdad 8 21 Eight Iraqis at a market are murdered by Jihad bombers.
2009.08.15 Afghanistan Kabul 4 0 The Taliban manage to kill four civilians with a remote-controlled bomb.
2009.08.15 Dagestan Makhachkala 2 0 Two police are killed in separate sniper attacks by Muslim militants.
2009.08.15 Pakistan Khawaza Kehla 5 4 A suicide car bomber rams into a checkpoint, killing five Pakistani soldiers.
2009.08.15 Afghanistan Kabul 7 91 Seven civilians are blown to bits by a Fedayeen suicide car bomber.
2009.08.15 Somalia Mogadushu 5 20 Islamic militia kill five people in their homes with a mortar barrage.
2009.08.15 Iraq Mosul 6 9 Five local cops and a taxi driver are taken down by Islamic terrorists.
2009.08.14 Dagestan Makhachkala 2 0 Two traffic cops are brutally gunned down by Islamic rebels.
2009.08.13 Pakistan Wana 4 2 al-Qaeda linked militants take out four civilians with a motorcycle bomb.
2009.08.13 Thailand Yala 2 4 Two patrons are murdered by Islamic gunmen while sitting in a tea shop.
2009.08.13 Iraq Baghdad 2 13 A bicycle bomb kills two civilians.
2009.08.13 Somalia Mogadishu 2 4 An elderly man and a 10-year-old girl are among the casualties when Islamists mortar a residential neighborhood.

[snagswolf]

2009.08.13 Pakistan Bajour 2 0 Two men are kidnapped by the Taliban and then raked with machine-gun fire.
2009.08.13 Iraq Mosul 21 35 Two Fedayeen in bomb vests attack a cafe, leaving over twenty innocents dead and another thirty in agony.
2009.08.13 Dagestan Buinaksk 7 0 Seven women are murdered at a sauna by Muslim terrorists.
2009.08.13 Afghanistan Helmand 3 2 Three British soldiers providing security for a meeting of tribal elders are killed in a heinous double bomb ambush.
2009.08.13 Dagestan Buinaksk 4 5 Islamic militants attack a police post, killing four officers.
2009.08.12 Afghanistan Gereshk 14 0 Taliban bombs kill fourteen civilians, including three children.
2009.08.12 Jordan Madaba 1 0 A pregnant woman is shot four times in the head by her brother for marrying by choice.
2009.08.12 Thailand Pattani 1 4 Mujahideen gunmen spray a tea shop with bullets from a moving truck, killing one person inside.
2009.08.12 Iraq Mosul 4 5 An elderly man and communications worker are among four Iraqis killed in terror attacks.
2009.08.12 Pakistan Orakzai 1 0 A schoolteacher is gunned down by Muslim terrorists.
2009.08.12 India Baramulla 1 9 A civilian is killed when Islamists hurl a grenade into a crowded area.
2009.08.12 Afghanistan Zabul 2 6 Two civilians are killed by Islamic bombers while traveling in a vehicle.
2009.08.12 Afghanistan Kunduz 3 0 Mujahideen storm a police post and shoot three people to death.
2009.08.12 Iraq Ramadi 2 7 A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out two Iraqis.
2009.08.11 Jordan Nasser 1 0 A 16-year-old girl is shot eight times in various parts of her body by an uncle because she had been raped.
2009.08.11 Pakistan Peshawar 2 3 Sunni militants fire a rocket into a residential area, killing two people.
2009.08.11 Pakistan Mohmand 1 0 The Taliban kidnap and murder a tribal elder.
2009.08.11 Iraq Baghdad 8 30 Islamists blast eight Iraiqs to death with bombs at a cafe and an apartment complex.
2009.08.11 Afghanistan Kabul 5 4 The Taliban murder five local police with a roadside bomb.
2009.08.10 Afghanistan Logar 5 26 Five innocents are killed when Islamic fundamentalists in vests assault a government building.
2009.08.10 Iraq Khazna 42 190 al-Qaeda detonate massive truck bombs 500 feet apart in a residential neighborhood of religious minorities, leveling homes and leaving over forty dead.
2009.08.10 Iraq Baghdad 7 42 Muslim bombers kill seven day laborers as they are enjoying their morning tea.
2009.08.10 Iraq Baghdad 10 35 Ten construction workers are murdered by Sunni bombers.
2009.08.10 Iraq Baghdad 5 35 Three innocents are killed in three Jihad bombing attacks.
2009.08.10 Pakistan North Waziristan 1 3 Gul Bahadur terrorists kill a soldier as he is fetching water.
2009.08.10 Dagestan Derbent 1 1 Islamic extremists kill a border guard with a bomb.
2009.08.09 Thailand Yala 1 0 Mujahideen shoot a village chief to death as he is riding a motorcycle with his wife.
2009.08.09 Pakistan Mohmand 5 0 The Taliban attack a peace committee, killing five people.
2009.08.09 Pakistan Bannu 3 0 Two farmers are among three people taken down in an ambush by Islamic militants.
2009.08.09 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 Two Kurds are gunned down by Sunni terrorists.
2009.08.09 Pakistan North Waziristan 2 3 Two local soldiers are blasted to bits by Taliban bombers while traveling in a vehicle.
2009.08.09 Somalia Mogadishu 2 0 Two civilians are taken out in a bombing by Muslim militants.
2009.08.08 Yemen Baqim 8 0 Eight people are killed when Sunnis and Shias work out their differences in the usual way.
2009.08.08 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A man is gunned down outside his home in a Muslim drive-by attack.
2009.08.08 Afghanistan Helmand 5 0 Five civilians are incinerated by Taliban bombers.
2009.08.08 Iraq Mosul 1 0 Sunni gunmen murder a cop at at an intersection.
2009.08.08 Somalia Mogadishu 2 4 al-Shabaab militants kill two local police with a roadside bomb.
2009.08.07 Afghanistan Kandahar 6 4 Terrorists use two roadside bombs to kill six local security personnel.
2009.08.07 Pakistan Tank 19 18 Nineteen people are killed when Taliban hardliners attack a peace committee.
2009.08.07 Pakistan Khyber 1 0 A civilian is killed in a battle between rival Islamists.
2009.08.07 Iraq Baghdad 3 13 Sunni bombers take out three more Sunni pilgrims.
2009.08.07 Chechnya Grozny 2 1 A Mujahideen bombing at a restaurant and another along a highway leave two dead.
2009.08.07 Iraq Mosul 38 95 At least thirty-eight people are blown to bits when Sunni bombers blast a Shia mosque.
2009.08.07 Afghanistan Ghazni 1 2 A security guard is murdered by Taliban bombers.
2009.08.07 Pakistan Lahore 3 0 Three people are gunned down by a relative over a suspected sexual affair.
2009.08.07 Iraq Baghdad 6 24 A half-dozen people are killed in an attack on a marketplace.
2009.08.06 Pakistan Bajaur 1 0 Taliban assassins take down a local soldier standing guard.
2009.08.06 Afghanistan Helmand 10 5 Two women and two children are among ten Afghanis murdered by two Fedayeen bombers.
2009.08.06 Iraq Baghdad 1 4 A Shiite pilgrim is killed by Sunni bombers.
2009.08.06 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A woman is gunned down by Muslim terrorists.
2009.08.06 Iraq Khanaqin 2 0 A man and woman are shot to death inside a vehicle by suspected hardliners.
2009.08.06 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 2 0 Two shopkeepers are murdered in a sectarian shooting.
2009.08.06 Pakistan Multan 1 0 A member of the minority Ahmediyya is assassinated in his own home by Religion of Peace gunmen.
2009.08.06 Iran Tabriz 7 0 Seven lawyers representing pro-reformists are murdered by the Revolutionary Guard while in detention.
2009.08.06 Iraq Kirkuk 5 32 Jihadi bombers take out five Iraqis at a market.
2009.08.05 Iraq Ramadi 1 4 A woman is killed in a Jihad car bomb blast.
2009.08.05 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A middle-aged Buddhist man is murdered by Islamic gunmen as he returns hom from market.
2009.08.05 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two young men are shot to death by Mujahideen.
2009.08.05 Afghanistan Nangahar 6 0 Six civilians are taken down by Taliban bombers along a highway.
2009.08.05 Iraq Baghdad 5 8 Five local police are taken out by a Jihadi roadside bomb.
2009.08.05 Iraq Jalawla 1 0 A young shepherd is murdered by Islamic bombers.
2009.08.05 Afghanistan Nangarhar 5 0 Five civilians are blown to bits by Taliban bombers.
2009.08.04 Pakistan Lahore 2 0 A factory owner and guard are beatedn to death by a mob after an employee accuses one of desecrating the Qur'an.
2009.08.04 Iraq Mussayab 1 0 Mujahideen shoot a policeman's brother to death.
2009.08.04 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A woman is murdered by Religion of Peace gunmen.
2009.08.04 Thailand Yala 1 0 Islamists gun down a 57-year-old man as he returns home from work.
2009.08.04 Afghanistan Zabul 2 17 A Shahid suicide bomber manages to send two Afghanis to Allah.
2009.08.04 Pakistan Datakhel 2 3 Two women die from shrapnel injuries following a rocket attack by Islamic hardliners.
2009.08.04 Pakistan Chashma 3 3 Three civilians are killed when the Taliban fire a missile into a home.
2009.08.04 Iraq Baghdad 1 0 al-Qaeda brutally beheads a 'police informant' and releases the video.
2009.08.03 Iraq Fallujah 5 8 Car bombers take out five Iraqis.
2009.08.03 Iraq Hilla 6 27 Islamic terrorists bomb two passenger buses, killing six innocents.
2009.08.03 Afghanistan Ghazni 1 4 A civilian is killed by a Taliban bomb.
2009.08.03 Afghanistan Heart 12 26 A woman and a 12-year-old girl are among a dozen Afghanis blown apart by Sunni bombers along a city street.
2009.08.03 Somalia Medina 1 5 In Islamist tosses a grenade at a group of soldiers in a commercial district, killing one.
2009.08.03 Iraq Iskandariya 1 3 A Shiite pilgrim is murdered by suspected Sunnis.
2009.08.03 Pakistan Miranshah 9 12 Nine people are killed in a Jihad rocket attack.
2009.08.03 Pakistan Gorja 1 0 A Christian man succumbs to injuries suffered by a mob angered over a rumor of Qur'an desecration.
2009.08.03 Algeria Kabylie 4 0 Four civilians are cut to pieces by automatic weapons fire from Islamic fundamentalists.
2009.08.02 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A Buddhist man is gunned down in a Muslim drive-by.
2009.08.02 Pakistan Mashogagar 1 0 Muslim militants kidnap a man, murder him in captivity, and then plant explosives on his body to kill others.

[snagswolf]

2009.08.02 Pakistan Paharipura 2 0 Two police are gunned down in a terrorist ambush.
2009.08.02 India Shopian 1 0 Mujahideen gunmen murder a man while he is visiting an orchard.
2009.08.02 Iraq Haditha 7 34 Car bombers successfully take down seven Iraqis at an outdoor market.
2009.08.02 Chechnya Sharoi 5 4 Jihad Warriors ambush two vehicles carrying police, blasting and shooting five officers to death.
2009.08.02 Dagestan Makhachkala 4 0 Islamic militants gun down three emergency workers (in Ingushetia ) and a police officer.
2009.08.02 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Islamists shoot a 29-year-old man to death as he is riding home from work.
2009.08.01 India Srinagar 2 0 Jaish-e-Mohammed militants shoot two police officers to death in separate attacks.
2009.08.01 Iraq Mosul 1 0 Sunni terrorists gun down a local traffic cop.
2009.08.01 Afghanistan Ghazni 1 2 A car carrying campaign workers is ambushed by Talibanis.
2009.08.01 Afghanistan Baghlan 3 0 Three police are killed in a roadside attack.
2009.07.31 Afghanistan Farah 4 3 Talibanis ambush a vehicle carrying voting equipment, killing four occupants.
2009.07.31 Iraq Kirkuk 2 15 Terrorists detonate a car bomb at a marketplace, killing two civilians.
2009.07.31 Iraq Mosul 2 2 A married couple die from shrapnel injuries when Mujahideen toss a grenade into their home.
2009.07.31 Pakistan Koral 3 0 A man guns down his sister and two teenage nieces after learning that one of them made a roadtrip with a stranger.
2009.07.31 Iraq Baghdad 33 136 Jihadis place bombs in five rival mosques, sending at least thirty worshippers to Allah and leaving over one-hundred more in agony.
2009.07.30 Pakistan Swat 1 2 Islamic terrorists storm the home of a government official and shoot his brother to death.
2009.07.30 Iraq Baqubah 7 10 Seven Iraqis are killed in twin blasts at Sunni political party building.
2009.07.30 Iraq Qaim 5 39 Five civilians are blown to bits by a suicide car bomber.
2009.07.30 Pakistan Gojra City 7 19 Seven people, including women and children (the youngest of whom was 4), are burned alive when a Muslim mob rampages through a Christian community over rumors of a Qur'an desecration.
2009.07.30 Yemen Sanaa 3 3 Three local troops are killed in an al-Qaeda ambush.
2009.07.29 Pakistan Mohmand 2 6 A woman is among two vehicle passengers gunned down by Islamists.
2009.07.29 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 1 4 A Sunni sectarian attack on Shias leaves at least one dead.
2009.07.29 Afghanistan Kandahar 4 0 Religious extremists kill two civilians and two local cops in three attacks.
2009.07.29 Algeria Tipaza 17 23 Armed fundamentalists hit a security convoy with roadside bombs and automatic weapons fire, killing at least seventeen members.
2009.07.29 Thailand Yala 1 0 Mujahideen gun down a 43-year-old man riding a motorcycle.
2009.07.28 Iraq Baghdad 8 15 Jihadis succussfully kill eight Iraqis with a bomb hidden on a motorcycle.
2009.07.28 Afghanistan Kabul 5 9 Five Afghan civilians are murdered in four separate Mujahid attacks around the country.
2009.07.28 Pakistan Miranshah 2 5 A suicide car bomber rams a police checkpoint, killing two local cops.
2009.07.28 Afghanistan Helmand 8 4 Eight security guards are killed when their vehicles are hit by Taliban remote-controlled bombs.
2009.07.28 Thailand Pattani 2 0 A Buddhist couple is brutally shot to death by Muslim radicals.
2009.07.28 Pakistan Mingora 1 0 A police officer is kidnapped and beheaded by Islamic radicals.
2009.07.28 Philippines Basilan 1 0 Moro Islamists fire on a passing vehicle, killing one occupant.
2009.07.28 Nigeria Maiduguri 1 0 Islamists pull a Christian man from his home and slit his throat.
2009.07.28 Nigeria Maiduguri 3 0 Three Christian pastors are kidnapped by Boko Harem Islamists and then beheaded after they refuse to accept Islam.
2009.07.27 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A suspected Islamist guns down a man at a wedding.
2009.07.27 Somalia Mogadishu 6 20 Six civilians are killed as a result of an attack on government troops by al-Shabaab militants at a market.
2009.07.27 Pakistan Mansehra 1 2 Fundamentalists bomb a shop selling music and DVDs, killing a patron.
2009.07.27 Somalia Merca 4 0 Four Christian orphanage workers are beheaded by Islamists after declining the offer to return to Islam.
2009.07.27 Nigeria Bauchi 5 12 At least three policemen and two civilians are killed during a series of attacks by Boko Haram Islamists.
2009.07.27 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A painter is killed in a Mujahideen drive-by shooting.
2009.07.27 Nigeria Maiduguri 1 0 A Christian pastor and father of seven is hacked to death by radical Muslims, who then burn down his church.
2009.07.26 Chechnya Grozny 6 10 A suicide bomber detonates as he is stopped from entering a concert hall. At least six innocents die in the blast.
2009.07.26 Iraq Baghdad 4 0 Four people are gunned down at a checkpoint by Jihadis.
2009.07.26 Afghanistan Helmand 3 2 A Taliban roadside bomb leave three security guards dead.
2009.07.26 Iraq Khaldiyah 5 12 A suicide bomber kills five people trying to stop him from entering a funeral.
2009.07.26 Iraq Ninewa 1 0 A Christian worker is murdered at a Pepsi plant by Islamic gunmen.
2009.07.26 Pakistan North Waziristan 3 0 Three civilians are kidnapped and beheaded by religious extremists.
2009.07.26 Afghanistan Nangarhar 2 0 Two road workers are murdered by Taliban bombers.
2009.07.25 Pakistan North Waziristan 1 0 A civilian is abducted and beheaded by Sunni radicals.
2009.07.25 Iraq Fallujah 5 21 Five civilians are taken out by a Mujahideen car bombing.
2009.07.25 Bangladesh Charsindhu 0 5 A Muslim mob attacks Hindu homes and ransacks a temple. Five people are injured.
2009.07.24 Afghanistan Khost 0 14 Seven remarkably inefficient suicide bombers manage to kill no one but themselves.
2009.07.24 Pakistan Quetta 1 0 A university professor is shot to death in a sectarian attack.
2009.07.24 Iraq Tal Afar 4 0 Four Iraqis are kidnapped and murdered execution-style by suspected al-Qaeda.
2009.07.23 India Shopian 2 0 Islamic terrorists burst into a home and murder a 3-year-old boy and his father.
2009.07.23 Somalia Mogadishu 15 55 Fifteen civilians are killed during a late evening attack by al-Shabaab and Hizb al-Islam terrorists.
2009.07.23 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A villager is shot to death outside a store by drive-by Muslim radicals.
2009.07.23 Pal. Auth. Jabalya 1 0 A man tortures and kills his daughter after finding her talking on a cell phone and suspected an illicit relation.
2009.07.23 Philippines Basilan 3 0 A 1-year-old child is among three people gunned down in an Abu Sayyaf drive-by shooting.
2009.07.23 Pakistan Quetta 1 0 A school principal is gunned down in a targeted sectarian attack.
2009.07.23 Pakistan Lahore 1 0 A 21-year-old girl is burned to death by her in-laws in an honor killing.
2009.07.23 Yemen Saada 7 3 Shiite extremists ambush and kill seven local soldiers.
2009.07.23 Iraq Kirkuk 2 5 Jihadis end the lives of two civilians with separate roadside bombs.
2009.07.22 Thailand Yala 1 0 Islamists gun down a 41-year-old rubber farmer by the side of the road.
2009.07.22 Afghanistan Kunduz 11 0 Four children are among eleven killed in a Taliban rocket attack.
2009.07.22 Iraq Diyala 5 35 Five Shia pilgrims are killed when Sunni gunmen open fire on their bus at close range.
2009.07.21 Yemen Saada 1 2 Shiite rebels shoot a security personnel member to death.
2009.07.21 Iraq Baghdad 18 113 Sunni extremists murder eighteen Iraqis in coordinated bombings around four cities. The dead include women and children.
2009.07.21 India Shopian 1 3 Lashkar-e-Toiba militants throw a grenade a group of police, killing one.
2009.07.21 Philippines Cotabato 1 1 An elderly woman farmer is shot to death in her field by Moro Islamists.
2009.07.21 Dagestan Khasavyurt 1 0 A man is shot to death by Muslim gunmen while sitting in a cafe.
2009.07.21 Afghanistan Paktia 3 4 Women and children are among the casualties when suicide bombers dressed as women stage an attack.
2009.07.21 Pal. Auth. Gaza 0 50 About fifty Fatah supporters at a wedding are injured when Hamas operatives detonate a bomb during the reception.
2009.07.20 Iraq Mosul 2 1 A young girl is among two civilians killed by Islamic gunmen.
2009.07.20 Somalia Mahadday Weyne 1 0 A father of two is shot to death by Muslims for leaving Islam and becoming a Christian.
2009.07.20 Iraq Peshawar 4 0 Four local cops are gunned down in a brutal ambush by Lashkar-e-Islam.
2009.07.20 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A Buddhist man is shot to death by passing Muslims on a motorcycle.
2009.07.20 Iraq Ramadi 4 9 Jihadis kill four Iraqis with a car bomb.
2009.07.20 Pakistan Lahore 2 0 A young couple is murdered by the woman's family for marrying against their will.
2009.07.20 Somalia Mogadishu 2 7 Two civilians are killed during an ambush by Islamists.

[snagswolf]

2009.07.20 Germany Munich 1 0 A Muslim man stabs his ex-wife to death 'in the name of the Qur'an' for being in a relationship.
2009.07.20 Turkey Istanbul 1 0 A Christian is stabbed shortly after leaving a church by a Muslim who said he just 'wanted to kill a Christian.'
2009.07.19 Afghanistan Kunduz 1 0 A politician is murdered by Taliban gunmen.
2009.07.19 Afghanistan Torkham 2 1 A suicide bomber takes out two Afghanis at a police post.
2009.07.19 Thailand Yala 1 0 Mujahideen shoot a plantation worker to death by the side of the road.
2009.07.19 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A shopkeeper is murdered when Islamic radicals fire into his store.
2009.07.19 India Doda 1 0 Hizb-ul-Mujahideen militants gun down a young civilian.
2009.07.19 Yemen Sanaa 10 0 Ten people are killed when Sunnis and Shias clash over control of a local mosque.
2009.07.18 Iraq Fallujah 1 13 A child dies from shrapnel injuries suffered from a bomb attack on a soccer game the day before.
2009.07.18 Pakistan Swat 1 0 The Taliban behead a government employee in his home.
2009.07.18 Afghanistan Zabul 3 3 Three local soldiers are blown to bits in a Shahid suicide attack.
2009.07.18 Iraq Garma 4 8 Four Iraqis are taken out by a Jihadi car bomb.
2009.07.18 Afghanistan Nangarhar 2 0 Two villagers die defending their homes from a Taliban attack.
2009.07.17 Iraq Baghdad 2 9 A married couple is blown apart in a Muhahideen bombing.
2009.07.17 Indonesia Jakarta 9 50 Fedayeen suicide bombers carry out attacks on two luxury hotels that leave at least nine dead.
2009.07.17 Thailand Yala 2 5 Two security personnel are murdered in a militant bomb attack.
2009.07.17 India Shopian 1 0 A 17-year-old girl is shot to death in her home by Muslim terrorists.
2009.07.17 Iraq Garma 2 11 Two young girls, ages 6 and 12, are killed in a brutal bombing by Holy Warriors outside their home.
2009.07.17 Ingushetia Sredniye Achaluki 2 0 Islamists open fire on a passing vehicle, killing two people.
2009.07.17 Iraq Kut 1 0 A young woman is shot to death in an apparent honor killing.
2009.07.17 Pakistan Khyber 1 0 A shopkeeper dies in a Taliban bombing at a market.
2009.07.17 Afghanistan Spin Boldak 11 3 Five children are among eleven civilians killed when an Islamist bomb rips through their bus.
2009.07.16 Pakistan Bajaur 1 0 A Taliban rocket attack on a home leaves at least one resident dead.
2009.07.16 Pakistan Miranshah 3 4 Mujahideen bombers take out three people traveling in a car.
2009.07.16 Pakistan Karachi 3 0 Three men are killed in separate sectarian attacks, including one who is brutally tortured before being shot.
2009.07.16 India Doda 1 0 Islamic militants kidnap and murder a civilian.
2009.07.16 Jordan Amman 1 0 A young man stabs his married sister and smashes her head with a rock over 'immoral behavior.'
2009.07.16 Pakistan Peshawar 2 0 A UN staff member and a guard are shot to death by Sunni militants at a refugee camp.
2009.07.16 Iraq Basra 3 1 An Iranian-backed militia kills three off-duty US soldiers in a mortar attack.
2009.07.16 Dagestan Gedzhukh 1 0 A government official is assassinated outside his home by suspected Islamists.
2009.07.16 Thailand Yala 1 0 A 26-year-old man is murdered inside his home by Muslim radicals.
2009.07.16 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 Islamists gun down a food vendor.
2009.07.15 Pakistan Bannu 2 6 Mujihadeen kill two cops with a roadside bomb.
2009.07.15 Afghanistan Ghazni 2 1 Two civilians lose their lives to a Taliban bomb hidden on a bicycle.
2009.07.15 Ingushetia Border 2 0 Two innocents are gunned down in their car by Muslim separatists.
2009.07.15 Thailand Pattani 2 1 Two civilians are shot to death by Muslim radicals in separate attacks.
2009.07.15 Iraq Ramadi 6 25 Six Iraqis are blown up when a Shahid suicide bomber drives into a checkpoint.
2009.07.15 Pakistan Jandola 2 1 Two woman are killed and a child injured when Islamic terrorists lob a rocket into a home.
2009.07.15 Chechnya Grozny 1 0 A female human rights activist investigating honor killings is kidnapped and brutally murdered.
2009.07.15 Iraq Baghdad 5 28 Jihadi bombers take the lives of five people attending a funeral.
2009.07.14 Pakistan Khyber 2 3 Islamic militants attack an oil tanker, killing two civilians.
2009.07.14 Iraq Mosul 1 0 A woman is murdered in her home by Jihadi gunmen.
2009.07.14 Iraq Baghdad 2 0 Two traffic cops are gunned down by Mujahideen.
2009.07.13 Afghanistan Kabul 4 0 Taliban bombers send four local police to Allah.
2009.07.13 Pakistan Multan 12 61 Seven children and three women are among twelve killed when a cleric's explosives go off earlier than expected where they are being stored at his Qur'an school.
2009.07.13 Dagestan Rostov-on-Don 2 5 Islamists open up on a convoy of local troops at point blank range, killing at least two.
2009.07.13 Chechnya Grozny 1 0 Mujahideen kill a policeman with a bomb.
2009.07.13 Iraq Fallujah 1 0 A boy is kidnapped and tortured to death by terrorists.
2009.07.12 Iraq Kirkuk 1 0 A Christian man is pulled from his car and murdered in front of his daughter.
2009.07.12 Iraq Jurf al-Sakhar 1 0 al-Qaeda gunmen murder a civilian.
2009.07.12 Iraq Baghdad 4 33 Four people are killed when Islamists place bombs at four Christian churches.
2009.07.12 Pakistan Lahore 1 0 A 23-year old woman is shot to death by her cousin over unapproved sexual relations.
2009.07.11 Pakistan Kohat 3 6 Three security personnel are murdered by a Taliban remote-controlled bomb.
2009.07.11 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 A government official is murdered in an ambush by Jihadis.
2009.07.11 Afghanistan Ghazni 8 1 Four security guards are killed in a Taliban rocket attack. Another four are cut down by a roadside bomb in Logar.
2009.07.11 Iraq Mosul 8 39 Eight Iraqis are blown up in a Jihad car bombing.
2009.07.11 Iraq Baghdad 4 12 Four people are killed when fundamentalists bomb a billiards hall.
2009.07.11 Afghanistan Paktia 18 20 Taliban fundamentalists stage a brutal ambush on a road construction crew, leaving eighteen dead.
2009.07.11 Somalia Mogadishu 3 1 Three Ugandan peacekeepers are killed in an al-Shabaab mortar attack.
2009.07.10 China Urumqi 137 800 Chinese Muslims rampage through Han neighborhoods, murdering one-hundred and forty, including women, children and even an 84-year-old who is stoned and set ablaze.
2009.07.10 Somalia Baidoa 7 0 al-Shabaab Islamists stage the public beheading of seven people for "being Christian."
2009.07.10 Thailand Pattani 1 0 An elderly man is shot to death in a Mujahideen drive-by attack.
2009.07.09 Iraq Baghdad 16 66 Sixteen Iraqis are blown to bits in two marketplace bombings.
2009.07.09 Afghanistan Kabul 25 4 More than a dozen children are among twenty-five innocents annihilated in a suicide blast.
2009.07.09 Pakistan Bannu 2 5 The Taliban take out two local soldiers with a roadside bombing.
2009.07.09 Pakistan Peshawar 1 3 A power company employee dies from shrapnel injuries suffered from a Mujahideen bombing.
2009.07.09 France Lyon 1 0 A 22-year-old woman is murdered by her 17-year-old "religious" brother, angry over a sexual affair.
2009.07.09 Jordan Amman 1 0 A 27-year-old woman is stabbed to death by her younger brother for bringing dishonor to the family by getting pregnant.
2009.07.09 Pakistan Bajaur 4 0 Islamic terrorists attack a checkpost and shoot four security personnel to death.
2009.07.09 Afghanistan Samangan 2 2 Two local policmen are murdered in a Taliban attack on a remote post.
2009.07.09 Thailand Pattani 1 5 Islamists kill a local soldier with a roadside bomb.
2009.07.09 Iraq Tal Afar 35 61 Thirty-five Iraqis are murdered by Fedayeen suicide bombers along a residential street.
2009.07.09 Jordan Amman 1 0 A second woman is stabbed to death by her brother, who finishes the job with a rock. Her crime was talking to a man.
2009.07.08 Pakistan Peshawar 1 4 A female suicide bomber manages to kill one other person.
2009.07.08 Ingushetia Nazran 1 0 Muslim militants open fire on a government vehicle, killing a guard.
2009.07.08 India Kulgam 1 1 A shepherd and and a 13-year-old boy are shot point-blank by Islamic terrorists. The boy survives with critical injuries.

[snagswolf]

2009.07.08 Iraq Mosul 15 24 Fifteen people are blown apart by two Jihad bombs, one near a mosque and the other in a commercial district.
2009.07.08 Iraq Musayyib 2 18 Mujahideen attempt to blow up a wedding, killing two of the guests.
2009.07.08 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A villager is gunned down by Muslim terrorists while driving his pickup truck.
2009.07.08 Iraq Baghdad 2 5 A man and his teenage son are taken down by sectarian bombers while tending their garden.
2009.07.07 Pakistan Khyber 1 0 A 55-year-old tribal leader is kidnapped and murdered by Sunni extremists.
2009.07.07 Pakistan Lahore 0 1 A Christian man is crippled by a Muslim, who shoots him eight times in the legs for refusing to pay Jizya.
2009.07.07 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 40-year-old Buddhist man is shot to death by Muslim radicals while shopping at a grocery.
2009.07.07 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two teenagers riding a motorbike are taken out by Religion of Peace gunmen.
2009.07.07 Afghanistan Khost 1 28 Religious extremists throw a grenade into the street, killing one civilian and injuring children.
2009.07.07 Philippines Jolo 2 27 Abu Sayyaf militants detonate a bomb outside a second Christian church, killing two innocents.
2009.07.07 Afghanistan Nuristan 8 8 Armed fundamentalists storm a police post, killing eight local officers.
2009.07.07 Pakistan Peshawar 2 3 Taliban assassins take down two civilians in separate attacks.
2009.07.07 Iraq Mosul 4 0 A father and son are among four Iraqis gunned down by Mujahideen.
2009.07.06 Iraq Baghdad 5 0 Mujahideen gunmen take down five Iraqis at a checkpoint.
2009.07.06 Iraq Mosul 1 12 Two policemen are stabbed to death by Muslim terrorists, who also murder a teenager in a separate bombing.
2009.07.06 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 5 2 Five Shias and Sunnis are killed in three separate sectarian attacks.
2009.07.05 Philippines Cotabato 6 44 A Religion of Peace nail bomb outside a Christian church leaves at least six innocents dead.
2009.07.05 Pakistan Mohmand 2 0 Two tribesmen are kidnapped by Sunni hardliners, then murdered by having their throats slit.
2009.07.05 Saudi Arabia Riyadh 2 0 A brother shoots his two young sisters to death for 'mixing with unrelated men.'
2009.07.05 Pakistan Lahore 1 0 A man is gunned down in the name of honor by his new wife's son.
2009.07.04 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 1 0 A local trader is gunned down by sectarian rivals.
2009.07.04 Iraq Mosul 4 0 Two brothers are among four people shot to death in separate terror attacks.
2009.07.04 Iraq Yusufiya 1 12 One person is killed when Jihadis bomb a vegetable market.
2009.07.04 Pakistan Mohmand 12 0 Islamic radicals ambush a group of tribesmen, killing at least a dozen.
2009.07.04 Somalia Mogadishu 23 50 Twenty-three civilian bystanders are killed during an attack by al-Shabaab militants on government troops.
2009.07.04 Ingushetia Nazran 9 9 A brutal, well-planned ambush by Mujahideen leaves nine police officers dead.
2009.07.04 Mali Tessalit 24 3 al-Qaeda militants ambush a group of local soldiers, killing some on the spot and then executing others taken hostage.
2009.07.04 Somalia Mogadishu 1 0 Islamists shoot a 22-year-old journalist in the stomach, then shoot at those trying to help so that he eventually bleeds to death.
2009.07.03 India Kishtwar 2 1 Hizb-ul-Mujahideen militants slit the throat of one individual and shot another to death.
2009.07.03 Ethiopia Dessie 2 0 Two Christians are shot to death by Muslim gunmen while working on a church.
2009.07.02 Saudi Arabia Riyadh 2 0 Two sisters are shot to death outside a women's shelter by their brother after being accused of 'illicit relations.'
2009.07.02 UK London 0 1 A 24-year-old man is blinded, suffers the loss of his tongue and 90% burns during an 'honor' attack in which he was forced to drink acid and had it thrown on him by angry Muslims.
2009.07.02 Pakistan Peshawar 2 2 Two local police are killed in a remote-controlled bomb attack by Talibanis.
2009.07.02 Iraq Baghdad 4 31 Four Iraqis are blown apart by a series of Jihad bomb blasts.
2009.07.02 Pakistan Chacho Wali 2 0 A young couple is shot to death in for marrying against their family's will.
2009.07.02 Pal. Auth. Gaza 1 0 A Palestinian girl is killed from an errant Hamas mortar shell intended for Israelis.
2009.07.02 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 2 6 Suspected Islamists toss a grenade into a shop, killing two people.
2009.07.01 Pakistan Lahore 0 15 Fifteen Christian women and children are burned when a Muslim mob throws acid on them.
2009.07.01 Pakistan Jamrud 2 0 Religious extremists ambush two men in a vehicle, shooting both to death.
2009.07.01 Pakistan Ghaziabad 1 0 A 16-year-old Christian boy is tortured to death in a police station.
2009.07.01 Pakistan Lashkar 2 4 Two villagers are cut down by militant Muslims in an automatic weapons attack.
2009.07.01 Iraq Baquba 1 3 An Iraqi is killed in a Jihad bomb attack.
2009.07.01 Pakistan Nowshera 2 3 Two civilians are blown apart in a Sunni rocket attack on a home.
2009.07.01 Pakistan Hangu 1 9 A local police officer is killed in a Taliban ambush.
2009.07.01 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 1 1 A civilian is killed in a Taliban bombing.
2009.06.30 Somalia Mogadishu 2 5 al-Shabaab militants toss a hand grenade into the street, killing two people.
2009.06.30 Pakistan Hajika 4 11 Four people are killed in a car bombing outside a hotel.
2009.06.30 Iraq Kirkuk 27 80 Holy Warriors blow up over two dozen Iraqi civilians at an outdoor market.
2009.06.30 Afghanistan Torkhum 8 8 Four women and two children are among eight people killed by a male suicide bomber disguised in a burka.
2009.06.30 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Muslim bombers kill a local soldier on patrol.
2009.06.30 Canada Kingston Mills, ON 4 0 Three teenage girls and a 50-year-old woman are murdered by their family in an 'honor killing.'
2009.06.30 Iraq Shurqat 2 0 Jihadis shoot two people riding in a civilian vehicle.
2009.06.29 Iran Mashhad 6 0 Six political activists are hanged.
2009.06.29 Thailand Narathiwat 2 0 Two young men are gunned down by Islamic terrorists by the side of the road.
2009.06.29 Philippines Maguindanao 1 14 A Muslim extremist murders a patron at a coffee shop with a homemade bomb.
2009.06.29 Belgium Brussels 1 0 A woman is found dead, the victim of an honor killing by her husband and brother-in-law for seeking a divorce.
2009.06.29 Iraq Hamdaniya 9 10 A 5-year-old child is among nine Iraqis killed by Islamic bombers.
2009.06.28 Pakistan Waziristan 22 35 Twenty-two local troops are killed in two brutal ambushes by Muslim extremists.
2009.06.28 Philippines Sumisip 7 2 Abu Sayyaf militants ambush a police vehicle and shoot seven officers to death.
2009.06.28 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A female Buddhist teacher is murdered by two Muslim gunmen on a motorcycle.
2009.06.28 Iraq Mosul 2 0 Two civilians are murdered by Sunni gunmen.
2009.06.28 Pakistan Charsadda 5 0 'Deeply conservative' Muslims shoot a young couple to death for eloping without permission - along with a few other family members.
2009.06.28 Somalia Mogadisu 5 14 Five Somalis are killed during an attack on the presidential palace.
2009.06.28 Iraq Hamrin Dam 1 3 Islamists bomb a family vehicle, killing one member and injuring three.
2009.06.27 Bangladesh Shariatpur 1 0 Muslims rape and kill a Hindu woman.
2009.06.27 Afghanistan Helmand 8 0 Religious radicals storm a police post and shoot eight local officers to death.
2009.06.27 India Rajouri 2 0 Muslim terrorists gun down a young couple.
2009.06.27 Sudan Hashaba 8 20 The Islamic Republic stages airstrikes on a village, killing eight residents.
2009.06.27 Philippines Tipo Tipo 2 0 Two unarmed engineers are murdered by Moro Islamist gunmen.
2009.06.27 Afghanistan Kunar 2 0 Two locals are blown apart by a well-placed Islamic bomb.
2009.06.27 Afghanistan Khost 1 0 Taliban bombers kill a civilian with a car bomb.
2009.06.27 Iraq Baghdad 1 4 A civilian is murdered when Islamists plant a bomb on a motorcycle.
2009.06.27 Philippines Tacurong 0 9 Nine people at a bus terminal suffer shrapnel injuries from an Islamic bomb.

[The Bos'un]

:shhh:

[The Bos'un]

I am not saying anything against feeling OK about. What is with those negative vibes, man?

http://ts3.images.live.com/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1153187709174&id=1d4bd8e36e7723cb925b3f3866560006&url=http%3a%2f%2fimg2.allposters.com%2fimages%2fMM PH%2f274118.jpg

[The Bos'un]

So could I. But I sure like BBQ....

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[Clintville]

The president of our multicultural country has done something multicultural by recognizing a major holiday? Damn him! Damn him to HELL!

[Antrel]

Snagswolf, Who are the majority of those victims? Is there a point to your list? Religions don't kill people, nor are they the source for advancements as Obama claimed.

And Bo'sun, your innuendos have gotten old. At one time I thought you might be sincere and open minded, but you continue to post vaguely and subtly support the posters who do post ignorantly against a religion.

But still, a completely sincere "Happy Ramadan" to you.

[Wild Bill03]

Religions don't kill people


But dangerous cults like Islam do. Their instruction manual (the quran) tells them to.

[Antrel]

But dangerous cults like Islam do. Their instruction manual (the quran) tells them to.Manuals don't kill people either.

[ExDem]

Sorry I did not post this before. Courtesy of President Barak Hussein Obama (http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-of-President-Barack-Obama-in-Ramadan-Message/), 44th President of the United States


Wow. He didn't say a damn thing to Christians at Easter. No glowing prose about the Christian religion. Odd. And as usual, he is sickening.

[Greyclouds]

Wow. He didn't say a damn thing to Christians at Easter. No glowing prose about the Christian religion. Odd. And as usual, he is sickening.

He did give an Easter address and called for religious tolerance.

http://www.bvblackspin.com/2009/04/13/obamas-easter-passover-message/

[ExDem]

He did give an Easter address and called for religious tolerance.

http://www.bvblackspin.com/2009/04/13/obamas-easter-passover-message/

Yeah, I know about that glowing speech on the beauty of Christianity. :rolleyes:

[The Bos'un]

So you think that I am ignorant toward Islam. My friend, i have not thrown the baby out with the bathwater. I am trying to understand. Of course I joke a round from time to time, such as posting Donald Sutherland's picture with the comment about negative vibes. What I have found about religion in general, joke about Islam and stand by for heavy rolls. Joke about Christians and Jews, it is OK.

My friend there is a double standard.

Back to Buddhism and Islam, the Buddhists I know are cautious as some and their families have been victimized by radicals. Now I suppose there are violent Buddhists, Hindus and others. You will have to enlighten my on percentages.

[The Bos'un]

I had no intention of posting this, but, am compelled to bring a little realtity of the Qur'an Qur'an Sirah 9:029

YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

PICKTHAL: Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

SHAKIR: Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

Just what the heck does this mean???????? Is the Qur'an just "a manual?" :))

[The Bos'un]

Ever hear of the Pact of Umar?

[The Bos'un]

Wow. He didn't say a damn thing to Christians at Easter. No glowing prose about the Christian religion. Odd. And as usual, he is sickening.
Nor will he next Christmas or Easter. He does not want to offend anyone. ;)

[The Bos'un]

He did give an Easter address and called for religious tolerance.

http://www.bvblackspin.com/2009/04/13/obamas-easter-passover-message/
From Who?

[gdoane]

I've got preliminary text of Barack Obama's Xmas speech to the nation.

And I quote:

"Meh."

[notluzn]

Snagswolf, Who are the majority of those victims? Is there a point to your list? .Im sorry you're lost in all of this.

[Antrel]

Im sorry you're lost in all of this.Don't be sorry. You're wrong.

[Antrel]

Sura 9:
1. A (declaration) of immunity from Allah and His Messenger, to those of the Pagans with whom ye have contracted mutual alliances:-

2. Go ye, then, for four months, backwards and forwards, (as ye will), throughout the land, but know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah (by your falsehood) but that Allah will cover with shame those who reject Him.

3. And an announcement from Allah and His Messenger, to the people (assembled) on the day of the Great Pilgrimage,- that Allah and His Messenger dissolve (treaty) obligations with the Pagans. If then, ye repent, it were best for you; but if ye turn away, know ye that ye cannot frustrate Allah. And proclaim a grievous penalty to those who reject Faith.

4. (But the treaties are) not dissolved with those Pagans with whom ye have entered into alliance and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor aided any one against you. So fulfil your engagements with them to the end of their term: for Allah loveth the righteous.

5. But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

6. If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah. and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge.

The Sura is in context with the Battle of Tabuk. It's clear that the the verse you cite is in regard to those who persist in fighting, which even as still cruel, is a hell of a lot more than God allowed the children of the tribes of Canaan.

REGARDLESS, even IF the Quran were to endorse the wanton killing of non-aggressing unbelievers (which it doesn't), the book itself does not kill a single person. Islam as a religion does not bring harm to anybody. It's entirely up to the individual to act as he or she will. Religious fault is a fallacy, harbored by those who thrive on fear and who lack the will to understand individuals, choosing rather to subscribe to obtuse generalization.

Anybody who believes that the Quran (or any other book) is a problem, or source of any problem (other than being extremely boring at times), has no idea what they are talking about.

[The Bos'un]

Did the proptet ever order anyone killed?

Also, why did he change his opinion of the People of the Book after they rejected his overtures?

[Antrel]

Did the proptet ever order anyone killed?

Also, why did he change his opinion of the People of the Book after they rejected his overtures?I'm not Muhammad, nor was I with him. I have a book that I can read, but I have no idea what truth it holds. Regardless, any action I take following the reading of the book is entirely of my own responsibility, not of its, or any religion's.

[The Bos'un]

I am not sure I am following you, Antrel. Did the prophet ever order anyone killed? And while you are at it; Has Muhammad ever preached “universal responsibility” to create and maintain a peaceful world?

[The Bos'un]

Have you? I am not certain you have or I would not be asking again.


By the way, I do take some time for reflection, my friend.

I recall reading “Compassion in the Globalized World” , July 2007, in which the Dalai Lama discussed how to resolve religious differences...

[The Bos'un]

:clap: It is good to get away from the Qur'an - Muhammad - Islam debate and step back to what this thread should have developed into. We should go back to President Oby and his intentions.. Thank you gdoane.... Peace...

[The Bos'un]

Perhaps you can enlighten me on your interfaith dialogs and the development of a “global civilization” dedicated to the protection of all human life instead of you accusing me of trying to bait you and me try to pick my way through hate verses in the Qur'an. come on, sgdp, educate me.... I really did give you several opportunities to start talking about Buddhism as a Buddhist. Buddhism is a way of life with an aura of inner peace......

[Antrel]

I am not sure I am following you, Antrel. Did the prophet ever order anyone killed? And while you are at it; Has Muhammad ever preached “universal responsibility” to create and maintain a peaceful world?I don't know. I would guess as a leader of armies he did order someone killed at some point. I never accompanied him, so I can't tell you what he did and didn't do. What's the significance? Joshua ordered the armies he lead to kill children according to the Bible, and Jesus affirmed the necessity and legitimacy of such action with his Jewish faith.

[The Bos'un]

Lets think about this a little,

Has Muhammad ever preached “universal responsibility” to create and maintain a peaceful world?

We might be able to bring this to a new level of dialog. I am not ranting against Islam right now. This is your chance to share how you feel, my friend.

[Antrel]

Lets think about this a little,

Has Muhammad ever preached “universal responsibility” to create and maintain a peaceful world?

We might be able to bring this to a new level of dialog. I am not ranting against Islam right now. This is your chance to share how you feel, my friend.Feel about what? He wasn't not the Dalai Lama. What is your point?

[snagswolf]

Snagswolf, Who are the majority of those victims? Is there a point to your list?
The point is that the reality of what some of the followers of Islam are doing in the world, doesn't match Obama's claim of "Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings."

Religions don't kill people,
But beliefs in some religions do. As the reality demonstrates.

[Greyclouds]

The point is that the reality of what some of the followers of Islam are doing in the world, doesn't match Obama's claim of "Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings."


But beliefs in some religions do. As the reality demonstrates.

Is it the religion, or the ethnic culture... :think:


Do all Catholics share the same culture?

Do all Protestants share the same culture?

Do all Buddhists share the same culture?

[The Bos'un]

Here is one man's opinion; Islam is religious-political-cultural ideology What many Muslims and non-Muslims alike fail to realize is that Islam is not a religion in the same way "religion" is understood in the West. Philip Hitti, the late Lebanese-American scholar who taught at Princeton University for nearly fifty years, was a leading expert on the history of Arabs and Islam. One of his books has three parts: Islam as Religion, Islam as State, and Islam as Culture. Whether Muslims are aware of it or not, orthodox Islam is a threefold system—a religious-political-cultural ideology—with the goal to subjugate the world to itself. Source: Ansewing Islam.... Islam: More than a Religion (http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Sene/morethanreligion.html)

[The Bos'un]

:wall: Open dialog my friend.

I am trying to meet you half way down a bridge of peace. I am trying to step back from being what some have called a bigot regarding my stand on radical islam.

Antel it is much more complex. We really should talk about the prophet of Islam from 6th century. Therein he is the key to Modern Islam.

[The Bos'un]

In regards to Islam, my friend, I was once what one might describe an "apologist and appeaser."

Now I consider myself a realist.

[Greyclouds]

Here is one man's opinion; Islam is religious-political-cultural ideology Source: Ansewing Islam.... Islam: More than a Religion

Link please?


I think that my initial skepticism is tied to the fact that Islam, as a "culture," seems to suggest a universality that does not exist in reality.

Unless you're trying to tell me that a Moroccan Berber Muslim, an Arabian Arab Muslim and a South East Asian Muslim all practice the same cultural memes!!!

If so, then do I get the right to proclaim that the Phelps Church is representative of all Christians in China? :lol:

[Greyclouds]

In regards to Islam, my friend, I was once what one might describe an "apologist and appeaser."

Now I consider myself a realist.

I consider myself a realist as well: Ikkawhan/Wahhabist Islamic fundamentalists are a blight on the human landscape. They do not represent all Muslims, much like the Knights Templar did not represent all Christians.

[The Bos'un]

Hey Snag, Marc Aubrière is happy about Ramadan. It helped him escape.... ;)

Ramadan aids escape by French agent (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6811399.ece)

Six week hostage ordeal ends after agent manages to sneak past his Somali guards who were tired after Ramadan fasting

[The Bos'un]

Oops: http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Sene/morethanreligion.html (by the way I am not. I have said in the past that Islam is not a religion, it is an ideology because it has every aspect of society rolled into one. Outside of the differences between Shia, Sunni, and several other sub-sects, Islam is basically the same for everyone and most are treated the same. One must completely submit to allah and adopt the way of the Ummah.

Some say that in true Islam there is no skin color or other prejudicial barriers.

[Greyclouds]

Oops: http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Sene/morethanreligion.html

Thank you. Reading now.

[The Bos'un]

Thank you. Reading now.
by the way I am not. I have said in the past that Islam is not a religion, it is an ideology because it has every aspect of society rolled into one. Outside of the differences between Shia, Sunni, and several other sub-sects, Islam is basically the same for everyone and most are treated the same. One must completely submit to allah and adopt the way of the Ummah.

Some say that in true Islam there is no skin color or other prejudicial barriers.

[Greyclouds]

Oops: http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Sene/morethanreligion.html

Several points:

1. He says that he lived in a "majority Muslim nation," but does not say where.

2. Not all Muslim nations practice the strict form of Sharia law that is offensive to basic human rights.

3. He cherry-picks parts of the Koran and Bible to make his point; not all Muslims and NOT ALL CHRISTIANS follow every part of the Koran and Bible respectively. I rarely see Christians giving up all that they own to become priests of Christ a la Matthew 19:29, but it's there! Oh and the Levitical laws? Only one is harped upon (homosexuality), but the rest are not followed.

All religions can lead to great misfortune or great benefits. Islam is no different in this regard.

The current culture of the Arabian peninsula, and its appeal to the frustrated and war-torn youth of Middle Eastern nations is a HUGE problem. Islam is not. Deal with the Wahabists, not the peaceful Indonesians.

[The Bos'un]

I am not certain that Muhammad represents all Muslims. So many know so little about the father of modern Muhammedanism.... Case in point his treatment of the Uraynah

[Greyclouds]

by the way I am not. I have said in the past that Islam is not a religion, it is an ideology because it has every aspect of society rolled into one. Outside of the differences between Shia, Sunni, and several other sub-sects, Islam is basically the same for everyone and most are treated the same. One must completely submit to allah and adopt the way of the Ummah.

Some say that in true Islam there is no skin color or other prejudicial barriers.

I could make the same argument for certain forms of Christianity by cherry-picking different sects.

Christianity is a culture: take a look at the fundamentalist sect of the latter day saints! They've taken religious culture to a NEW level! They dress in antiquated garb, they create communities that are solely composed of their members, and they seek domination of their home country and total conversion of all peoples within.

I'm not bashing Christianity, nor am I praising Islam: if I had my way, every human being would take the time to develop their own spiritual pathway and seek enlightenment on their own terms. I'm merely seeking to dispel the misconceptions about a different culture, insofar as a religion is being SOLELY identified with one problematic interpretation of it!

[The Bos'un]

The Mormans do have a complete system of government, laws, social programs, and way of life. However, I would venture to say that Mormons treat non believers much better than Muhammad did (and some Muslims now treat non believers).

They did not slaughter those who did not convert. And, Mormons do not have Jizya....

[The Bos'un]

Some Indonesians are not so peaceful.... Since the 14th century Islam has about domintated the society. There are violent clashes between some in the religion of peace and non believers, Kufur, if you will. It is hard to say who is at fault.

[Greyclouds]

The Mormans do have a complete system of government, laws, social programs, and way of life. However, I would venture to say that Mormons treat non believers much better than Muhammad did (and some Muslims now treat non believers).

They did not slaughter those who did not convert. And, Mormons do not have Jizya....

And therein lies the fallacy of your argument.

1. I said Muslims, not Muhammad. Moses killed people. Jacob killed people. David led wars and killed people. It would be intellectually dishonest of me to claim that the entire Jewish religion was hell-bent on killing non-believers (Gentiles) because of what their founding leaders did.

2. There are differences between religions, yes. Pointing out those differences actually helps my argument that not all of Islam can be branded as a uniformity of thought, culture and religion. Tell me how many Dervishes have killed non-believers in cold blood?

[The Bos'un]

Muhammad is the founder of present day Muhammadnism. He got the word, translated it, and made the rules. His Companions carried it out after his demise.

There is no fallacy because I did not pose an arguement, my friend...

[snagswolf]

Is it the religion, or the ethnic culture... :think:
The ones doing it are claiming it's the religion.

Both radical and non-radical muslims claim they are following the true religion. Who am I to determine which one is correct? If non-radical muslims are tired of being associated with the radicals, then it is up to them to make that disassociation, not me.

For example, you mentioned Phelps. I'd be willing to claim that just about 100% of christian sects have denounced Phelps and his beliefs. There is no ambiguity within the christian community, or their message to the rest of the world, about whether or not Phelps represents Christianity. They make it clear that he doesn't.

There are some within Islam who criticize the radicals in their religion. But that voice is not loud nor strident enough. For example, when a cartoon of Muhammad was published, muslims took to the street in protest, some threatening to kill those responsible. However, when 3000 Americans were slaughtered in the name of Muhammad, where were the Muslims filling the streets in protest?

[Antrel]

The point is that the reality of what some of the followers of Islam are doing in the world, doesn't match Obama's claim of "Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings."

But beliefs in some religions do. As the reality demonstrates.I'm disagree with Obama as well, on the basis that religions and books themselves cannot make advances. People can and do. Beliefs do not kill people, period.

[Antrel]

:wall: Open dialog my friend.

I am trying to meet you half way down a bridge of peace. I am trying to step back from being what some have called a bigot regarding my stand on radical islam.

Antel it is much more complex. We really should talk about the prophet of Islam from 6th century. Therein he is the key to Modern Islam.No, you're not meeting me half way. You're ignoring my argument. I want you to present to me how exactly any book, any system of beliefs, or any ghost of a man dead for over a millennium can be responsible for murders occurring today. Whose responsibility is it to not pull the trigger?

You call yourself a realist but insist on shifting the argument towards the life of a man deceased for almost 1400 years. The context of your argument strays completely from reality. I admit it's a complex issue, it is you, and any other trying to pin the problems of individuals on a single religion that are over simplifying.

[snagswolf]

I'm disagree with Obama as well, on the basis that religions and books themselves cannot make advances. People can and do. Beliefs do not kill people, period.
You're arguing semantics.

Belief in religion motivates people to do many things, including killing others.

Whether it's the belief itself, or the belief motivating the person to do it, the result is the same.

[Antrel]

The Mormans do have a complete system of government, laws, social programs, and way of life. However, I would venture to say that Mormons treat non believers much better than Muhammad did (and some Muslims now treat non believers).

They did not slaughter those who did not convert. And, Mormons do not have Jizya....Any practiced religion is a way of life. Religion by definition is a system of beliefs we as people adhere to. My religion is self-improvement, non-aggression, and being happy - religion and "way of life" are synonymous.

Mormons aren't out and about slaughtering non-Christians, but the religion they follow indicates that it was right to do so at one point. How did God order the Israeli tribes to treat the non-believers of Canaan? Yet that doesn't mean that any Jew or Christian who kills a non-Christian is the fault of the bible. Murder was justified when God commanded it, is it the Bible's fault if a man kills another today and claims it was justified because God told him to do it?

[Antrel]

You're arguing semantics.

Belief in religion motivates people to do many things, including killing others.

Whether it's the belief itself, or the belief motivating the person to do it, the result is the same.No, it's not. It's logically erroneous to bypass the responsibility of the conscious individual to act or restrain himself physically, and claim any fault in an inanimate concept such as a belief. The Quran has not killed a single human being. Islam has not killed a single human being. Nor has the Bible, the Torah, Christianity, or Judaism. People, simply, kill. It happens. It won't stop happening. Oppression and strife predated Islam, and will thrive once it's dead.

It's the pseudo intellectual who tries to assume any other cause for murder other than the physical reality.

[The Bos'un]

So now you are a Mormon authority too? Were did it say it was OK to slay non Mormons anyway? Please provide link and text, thank you..

[The Bos'un]

I disagree. Sorry Antrel...

[snagswolf]

No, it's not. It's logically erroneous to bypass the responsibility of the conscious individual to act or restrain himself physically, and claim any fault in an inanimate concept such as a belief. The Quran has not killed a single human being. Islam has not killed a single human being. Nor has the Bible, the Torah, Christianity, or Judaism. People, simply, kill. It happens. It won't stop happening. Oppression and strife predated Islam, and will thrive once it's dead.

It's the pseudo intellectual who tries to assume any other cause for murder other than the physical reality.
And it's the intellectually dishonest who look at the reality of countless acts of violence done in the name of a religion, and claim the religion has nothing to do with it.

This is exactly why moderate muslims get painted with the radicals - because they refuse to accept the reality of what others are doing in the name of their religion.

[The Bos'un]

You may have something there. But then again many do not like reality and would like to look at things through rose coloured glasses.