All's We Need Is a Spark......

[Farmer_Ted]

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. -Thomas Jefferson

For what seems all of mankind, there are stories that are written hundreds and thousands of years ago with warnings of what is to come in the future. Not only predictions from visionaries, prophets, and fortune tellers, but from regular folk grabbing their individual peice of liberty and freedom. Setting a culture and policies that should not only govern, but enrich our lives for the better.

The Bible is a classic example of this. There are many versions, but the core of the message is the same.

Hollywood repeats story line after story line of having to go back to the past to solve issues from the future. Some document or important and/or sacred object that can save us all from the dangers of the present. Some event of the past that sets the tone of what is today.

Our constitution falls under the same. Written 222 years ago, it was a document that was meant to govern our society forever as a free market place where you can do what you want, as long as it did not interfere with the liberty and happiness of others.

To follow where this is going, wikipedia offers a great definition of what a constitution is;

A constitution is set of rules for government — often codified as a written document — that establishes principles of an autonomous political entity. In the case of countries, this term refers specifically to a national constitution defining the fundamental political principles, and establishing the structure, procedures, powers and duties, of a government. By limiting the government's own reach, most constitutions guarantee certain rights to the people. The term constitution can be applied to any overall law that defines the functioning of a government.

Remember, at the time of the American Revolution, the government of Great Britian was the "big government", the "big brother" figure in American's daily lives. They told us what to do, what to think, and overtaxed our citizens. The British government was a burden on the citizens of America. Look at the organized events of today, based on the Boston Tea Party. Average citizens who couldn't take any more, citizens who wanted a free market society without the overbearing tax ramifications imposed by big government. Did they break the current law at the time?? Yes. Was it necessary to have a free society and protect the civil libertires of Americans?? Yes. But the Tea Tax was levied against Americans without their consent, nor a local voice from America, it was dictated by Britian's parliment who had no interests in what new called Americans wanted, much like the Naionalized Health Car debate of today. Tomorrow with this administation, it will be Cap and Trade and Check Card. The Tea Tax was in fact Britian's solution to help solve the money troubles and profitablitity of the British East India Co., just as this current adminstration is helping the profitability of corporate giants.

Our constituion is a sacred document that is filled with warnings of big government. It was created so people can live free lives and pursue their dreams without government interference. Our fore fathers wrote the document that people had individual rights, and these rights were not to be touched. Much like the hollywood movies, people today need to go back to their past to solve the issues of the present. The second admendment was written not to arm all of us hillbillies and country folk, it was written so that if big government became too overbearing, Americans had a consitutionally approved solution.

Our forefathers knew this day was coming, and wanted us prepared for it.

And like Hollywood stories, people like special effects and big explosions.

Our forefathers had their Boston Tea Party as their spark, what will be the spark of today????

[Drawz]

The oldest written language is only about 5200 years old.

[Farmer_Ted]

The earliest forms of writing began with the expression of ideas through pictures that is now studied under a branch called Ideography. This mode of expression enabled people of different origins to communicate with each other. This however soon became inconvenient and time consuming.

[Drawz]

Ok that gets you back to about 30000 bc. Still not exactly hundreds of thousands of years.

[jelake]

Spark for what to happen? Stop beating around the bush. Are you calling for an armed revolution against a democratically elect president and congress or what? All you have to do is sit back, cool your heels, and prepare yourself for the next elections.

[Drawz]

Oh and the Constitution is not a sacred document nor is the 2nd amendment a licence for insurrection.

[Farmer_Ted]

Elected through a fair and democratic system???

If you think that voting in 2010 is going to change anything your insane. Becuase for every one vote you cast legally, Acorn and it's 100 sub-corporations are submitting 3 illegally. And now they have funding through the government because of this president. They also have a USSR KGB type grib on the media as well thanks to all the trial lawyers treatening to sue over any bad press for the messiah. If you think the rules apply to everyone, your wrong. This president does what he wants when he wants with our tax dollars. He has already taken 4 vacations in 7 months in office on our dime.

If you think voter fraud was bad in the 2008 election, wait until 2010. Plus acorn has the backing of the ACLU who will sue if any of acorn's members are prosecuted.

If you think it's all fair, your wrong. If you think your vote counts in this country, you are again wrong. The Liberals and Marxists are in control, they will be in power as long as they want.

So besides the 2010 and 2012 rigged elections, what's your solution????

[Farmer_Ted]

Drawz, I see your from Chicago, are you a lefty???

[merickson]

With over 50% of the country approving of Obama's performance and many, many more not willing to overthrow the constitution, I think that a lot more than "a spark" is needed.

In addition to a great deal more unhappiness in the populus, revolutionary leaders willing to publicly admit that the goal is armed revolution would be a nesesary condition for any such revolution.

You might read Che and Mao to find effective ways to forment a revolution.

[Drawz]

Drawz, I see your from Chicago, are you a lefty???

I sure am. Why some many question marks?
And regardless of that fact:

Written language is not hundreds of thousands years old.(many cons will tell you the universe is not even that old)
The Constitution is not sacred.(unless the Federal government has some religious authority that I'm not aware of)
And the second amendment is not a license for insurrection.

[hatman]

Elected through a fair and democratic system???

If you think that voting in 2010 is going to change anything your insane. Becuase for every one vote you cast legally, Acorn and it's 100 sub-corporations are submitting 3 illegally. And now they have funding through the government because of this president. They also have a USSR KGB type grib on the media as well thanks to all the trial lawyers treatening to sue over any bad press for the messiah. If you think the rules apply to everyone, your wrong. This president does what he wants when he wants with our tax dollars. He has already taken 4 vacations in 7 months in office on our dime.

If you think voter fraud was bad in the 2008 election, wait until 2010. Plus acorn has the backing of the ACLU who will sue if any of acorn's members are prosecuted.

If you think it's all fair, your wrong. If you think your vote counts in this country, you are again wrong. The Liberals and Marxists are in control, they will be in power as long as they want.

So besides the 2010 and 2012 rigged elections, what's your solution????

Wow. Do you really believe this hyperbolic drivel? Or are you a liberal trying to make conservatives look bad?

Liberals will remain in power if mainstream Americans think this post is representative of Conservatism. And that would be a shame.

[Clintville]

Oh and the Constitution is not a sacred document nor is the 2nd amendment a licence for insurrection.
The Constitution is not? To me it is. It should be held to more importance than any religious book.

[Clintville]

I love how they think the only way people they disagree with can get into power is by fraud or non democratically. Let me guess, you are a birther?

[Farmer_Ted]

If you are questioning my judgement in believing our voting system is seriously flawed, then yes, I do believe it. I believe in this country, and I believe this is a Christian nation regardless of what the left has been trying to erase lately froim our history.

Although most may not agree with the original post, prove it wrong. And provide a solution, becuase voting isn't going to get the desired results a majority of people want in 2010 or 2012.

If you do not believe that you woke up this morning and aren't already living in a Marxist society, you are the one who should rethink your posts.

It's reverse McCarthyism occuring in this country right now. Have you noticed the "new" conservative talk radio and IAB message of "fair and balanced?" You think that isn't a result of one of the messiah's czars???

[Farmer_Ted]

drawz. I feel sorry for you. It's obvious you are brainwashed by some leftist professor from some college you attended who has not only talked you out of your belief of God, but also out of the belief for your country.

Supporters of the left love to be sold snake oil.

[Farmer_Ted]

With over 50% of the country approving of Obama's performance and many, many more not willing to overthrow the constitution, I think that a lot more than "a spark" is needed.

Last time I looked his approval rating was below 50%, down over 20% in less than 7 months in office. You must not engage a lot with people in general. Most people I know are furious. Beyond mad. Why do you think this year has been a record year for gun sales in this country??? Did we as a nation all of a sudden become more enamored with our guns?? Or do you think there is another underlying issue behind it.

I don't need to refer to any Marxist or Socialist dictator to see how to overtake a country by revolution, I am already watching the obama administration do it without firing a single shot.

[Drawz]

drawz. I feel sorry for you. It's obvious you are brainwashed by some leftist professor from some college you attended who has not only talked you out of your belief of God, but also out of the belief for your country.

Supporters of the left love to be sold snake oil.

Wow, then what's obvious to you is a complete delusion. I put aside belief in a God long before I got to college and I love my country to this day.

What is obvious however, is that you've yet to address any of the three assertions that I've made regarding your post...wonder why that is.

[Drawz]

The Constitution is not? To me it is. It should be held to more importance than any religious book.

Ok, if you apply the non-religious definition of the word then I can see your point. However that's not the primary usage of the word.

Main Entry:
sa·cred
Pronunciation:
\ˈsā-krəd\
Function:
adjective
Etymology:
Middle English, from past participle of sacren to consecrate, from Anglo-French sacrer, from Latin sacrare, from sacr-, sacer sacred; akin to Latin sancire to make sacred, Hittite šaklāi- rite
Date:
14th century
1 a: dedicated or set apart for the service or worship of a deity <a tree sacred to the gods> b: devoted exclusively to one service or use (as of a person or purpose) <a fund sacred to charity>
2 a: worthy of religious veneration : holy b: entitled to reverence and respect
3: of or relating to religion : not secular or profane <sacred music>
4archaic : accursed
5 a: unassailable, inviolable b: highly valued and important <a sacred responsibility>

[hatman]

With over 50% of the country approving of Obama's performance and many, many more not willing to overthrow the constitution, I think that a lot more than "a spark" is needed.

Last time I looked his approval rating was below 50%, dow
n over 20% in less than 7 months in office. You must not engage a lot with people in general. Most people I know are furious. Beyond mad. Why do you think this year has been a record year for gun sales in this country??? Did we as a nation all of a sudden become more enamored with our guns?? Or do you think there is another underlying issue behind it.

I don't need to refer to any Marxist or Socialist dictator to see how to overtake a country by revolution, I am already watching the obama administration do it without firing a single shot.

Why do you think this has been a record year for gun sales?
If you believe you can't recover the government through elections, whatcha gonna do?
Perhaps find a Marxist or Socialist dictator you agree with? Or, what?

[Clintville]

If you are questioning my judgement in believing our voting system is seriously flawed, then yes, I do believe it. I believe in this country, and I believe this is a Christian nation regardless of what the left has been trying to erase lately froim our history.
What does your second sentence have to do with what you are talking about? It is wrong of course, I don't know what your definition of "Christian nation" is, but we were not founded on Christianity.

Although most may not agree with the original post, prove it wrong. And provide a solution, becuase voting isn't going to get the desired results a majority of people want in 2010 or 2012.
The fact that there is no evidence that there was vote rigging is proof.

[Clintville]

drawz. I feel sorry for you. It's obvious you are brainwashed by some leftist professor from some college you attended who has not only talked you out of your belief of God, but also out of the belief for your country.
I haven't been to college yet and I agree with him (or at least disagree with you).

[Clintville]

Why do you think this year has been a record year for gun sales in this country???

That was because they were paranoid and feared Obama would somehow have the power (even if he wanted to) ban guns, or put a tax on them, or restrict them or whatever. It didn't happen. You know, just like death panels, him being a Muslim, or him being from Kenya or Australia. Do you see a pattern?

[Farmer_Ted]

I haven't been to college yet and I agree with him (or at least disagree with you).

That's because your a sheep and a follower, just like most followers of the left. You believe everything the messiah says, but you have no original thought of your own. Your like a robot that is commanded by obama. What a shame.

[Farmer_Ted]

You know, just like death panels, him being a Muslim, or him being from Kenya or Australia. Do you see a pattern?

This is getting too easy.

Are you going to disagree that there are not death panels in this health care sham??? It's all over this bill.

Of course you probaly want health care cause your a democrat. And democrats typically bring nothing to the table as far as society is concerned. You want everything for free and expect someone else to pay for it.

This bill is a sham just like your writings.

[betwixt]

Now if you were to say, an economic collapse, where people loose medicaire, SS, and food stamps. There might be a spark type condition.

[Clintville]

I haven't been to college yet and I agree with him (or at least disagree with you).

That's because your a sheep and a follower, just like most followers of the left. You believe everything the messiah says, but you have no original thought of your own. Your like a robot that is commanded by obama. What a shame.

Uh, no I said nothing about Obama. Its funny how no one could possibly disagree with you unless they were brainwashed or went to college.

[Clintville]

You know, just like death panels, him being a Muslim, or him being from Kenya or Australia. Do you see a pattern?

This is getting too easy.

Are you going to disagree that there are not death panels in this health care sham??? It's all over this bill.
And this is where?

[Sinister Rouge]

You know, just like death panels, him being a Muslim, or him being from Kenya or Australia. Do you see a pattern?

This is getting too easy.

Are you going to disagree that there are not death panels in this health care sham??? It's all over this bill.

Of course you probaly want health care cause your a democrat. And democrats typically bring nothing to the table as far as society is concerned. You want everything for free and expect someone else to pay for it.

This bill is a sham just like your writings.

So where in the health care bill are these Death Panels? Are you going to post a link?