Ron Paul Mows Down 2 Socialists on Larry King Last Night..........Again

[Buschb]

Last evening Dr.Paul was on Larry King...

The main piece is Paul and 2 fellow doctors Dr Paul Song & Dr. Sanjay Gupta debating Health Care reform ...
CNN stacked the Deck against Paul only to come up short...

Dr.Gupta even came away with a new understanding of Government waste....When Paul schooled him on the 50 Billion being used to supervise themselves...@7:05

part one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dqXV08lPg4&feature=channel_page

In the 2nd part Paul states "We'd Have Trillions Of Dollars To Spend If Didn't Have These Wasteful Wars!"
http://www.youtube.com/user/MoxNewsDotCom#play/all/uploads-all/2/p_A4b1LSkh8

And I agree If we drop all these foolish Wars,chilled out on the Foreign aid and quit paying for Illegals...
Maybe we could afford to spend alittle coin on people here at home...
The American people should be the main prerogative ...no one else..**** that

[fjccommish]

If we didn't have these foolish wars we'd have had more terror attacks on US soil.

[Buschb]

If we didn't have these foolish wars we'd have had more terror attacks on US soil.

I would disagree...but I rather talk about why Paul is the only Republican staying in the fight after the election...

I can't name another Republican out there on camera fighting this crap as much as Paul...many appearances on air each week

Although I was surprised to see Mitt on Sean's show today...It seams like Fred,Mitt,Juan,etc,etc are gone...you don't hear a peep
The only people you hear speaking out about this crap is talk radio,Fox and Paul...and thankfully for them Americans are now rallying...imo

[johnrocks]

Great videos as usual from the champion of free markets!

[LouC]

Why not not spend the money on wars but then not try to find other things to spend it on either?

Want health insurance for the uninsured?

Fine as long as the cost is paid out of a real Federal budget surplus.

[Buschb]

Great videos as usual from the champion of free markets!

Amen....Hell I tell you John...If wasn't for Beck,Sean,Paul,Levin,The Judge,Laura,Neil and Rush(one's in the limelight)...Americans might never know the power grab...

[RedStatePaPa]

What about all of the other wasteful spending. I'd rather spend the money going after terrorists and cut spending in other areas.

Paul loses me here over and over.

[johnrocks]

What about all of the other wasteful spending. I'd rather spend the money going after terrorists and cut spending in other areas.

Paul loses me here over and over.

Without getting crazy here, where we going to cut a hundred billion or more at?

[johnrocks]

Amen....Hell I tell you John...If wasn't for Beck,Sean,Paul,Levin,The Judge,Laura,Neil and Rush(one's in the limelight)...Americans might never know the power grab...

Something we can all unite on,that's for sure.

[Buschb]

What about all of the other wasteful spending. I'd rather spend the money going after terrorists and cut spending in other areas.

Paul loses me here over and over.

That has always been the problem...:lol:

[Steel-W0LF]

Without getting crazy here, where we going to cut a hundred billion or more at?


From anything that says "Environmental Study"....Climate Change...Global warming......

Hell I'ld even throw FEMA under the choping block. I meen my god, how many times does a hurricane need to blow somones house down, or a fire burn it down, or tornados wipe it out befor an area should be considered "Live here at your own risk". Some fireman needs to put some chemical in the water in california that is unsafe for humans so that when the fires are out no idiot can move back into those hills.

[LouC]

Without getting crazy here, where we going to cut a hundred billion or more at?

I could, but they would never let me, oh well... :(

[Tricia P.A]

I didn't understand Ron Paul for many years but I'd say the past year or two he seems to make sense to me now.

It seems to me he does want the best for Americans and believes in the concepts of "we need to take care of America and Americans first"....

And I agree

I believe we need to keep America and Americans safe and we need to spend to keep up safe here on our shores but I do not agree with so many young boys\men dying\being butchered over over there ....

We are losing all our young men over there and for what? For who?
And what is this so called Prez.. of Change doing ..ugh sending more troops to the next battle killing field Afganistan (afakafaganamessss..).

Nothing over there will change - once we leave they (the arabs\persians\etc;) go back to killing one another... ...

It is not for us to decide, it will be the will of destiny......

If we are attacked on our shores I will pick up a bat and fight along side of our young men .... but if its not on our shores and is a thing that will never end - fate - destiny, then I say bring our boys home and when they come home We All (all nationalities\races\religions\ethnicities) need to honor them, respect them, help them....and anyone who will not help, respect or speak up for Our American Troops when they come home is a dirtbag and should be cast-out.

[johnrocks]

From anything that says "Environmental Study"....Climate Change...Global warming......

Hell I'ld even throw FEMA under the choping block. I meen my god, how many times does a hurricane need to blow somones house down, or a fire burn it down, or tornados wipe it out befor an area should be considered "Live here at your own risk". Some fireman needs to put some chemical in the water in california that is unsafe for humans so that when the fires are out no idiot can move back into those hills.

All find and good but nowhere near 100 billion and that's if we completly abolished those programs which I'm more than fine with. Thanks for excellent choices though.;)

[JohnRandolph]

Without getting crazy here, where we going to cut a hundred billion or more at?

Probably couldn't do it all in the first budget year, but given the chance, and the absolute power necessary to make it happen, I would find a way.

[johnrocks]

I could, but they would never let me, oh well... :(

lol,oh,trust me,I could too even though everything from farmers to Astronauts may get mad at me.:cool:

[johnrocks]

Probably couldn't do it all in the first budget year, but given the chance, and the absolute power necessary to make it happen, I would find a way.

Folks like us could but realistically speaking John,where? Where are the votes necessary to cut 200 billion ;I know, I upped it,:lol:

[Buschb]

I didn't understand Ron Paul for many years but I'd say the past year or two he seems to make sense to me now.

It seems to me he does want the best for Americans and believes in the concepts of "we need to take care of America and Americans first"....

And I agree

I believe we need to keep America and Americans safe and we need to spend to keep up safe here on our shores but I do not agree with so many young boys\men dying\being butchered over over there ....

We are losing all our young men over there and for what? For who?
And what is this so called Prez.. of Change doing ..ugh sending more troops to the next battle killing field Afganistan (afakafaganamessss..).

Nothing over there will change - once we leave they (the arabs\persians\etc;) go back to killing one another... ...

It is not for us to decide, it will be the will of destiny......

If we are attacked on our shores I will pick up a bat and fight along side of our young men .... but if its not on our shores and is a thing that will never end - fate - destiny, then I say bring our boys home and when they come home We All (all nationalities\races\religions\ethnicities) need to honor them, respect them, help them....and anyone who will not help, respect or speak up for Our American Troops when they come home is a dirtbag and should be cast-out.

Testify Sister :flag:

Goes to show Ya Honesty goes along way..

[JohnRandolph]

Folks like us could but realistically speaking John,where? Where are the votes necessary to cut 200 billion ;I know, I upped it,:lol:

Like I said, it would require absolute power, something I don't believe in, but since we are playing parlor games...

Wave bye bye to the space program and a host of alphabet soup agencies and programs.
There are millions of acres of undeveloped land that should be returned to private land owners, or leased for mineral exploitation.

Wanna save a wild horse or jackass from the BLM? Buy it or I'm selling it to Alpo.

[Buschb]

Nasa is one program I would not like to see axed...lol

[JohnRandolph]

Nasa is one program I would not like to see axed...lol

Thats the problem, everybody has one. Every time somebody suggests cutting budgets, what is the first thing the NPS does? They threaten to close Yellowstone and Yosemite.
But let me meet you half way. NASA lives, but men on Mars goes into the **** can.

[JohnRandolph]

Thats the problem, everybody has one. Every time somebody suggests cutting budgets, what is the first thing the NPS does? They threaten to close Yellowstone and Yosemite.
But let me meet you half way. NASA lives, but men on Mars goes into the **** can.

EDIT
NASA lives, but goes onto the auction block, to make it or not in the private sector.

[Ninjacorpse]

EDIT
NASA lives, but goes onto the auction block, to make it or not in the private sector.

Sounds good to me, i have to admit some ignorance on the subject but i wonder what other countries spend on space programs compared to what we do.

[LouC]

EDIT
NASA lives, but goes onto the auction block, to make it or not in the private sector.

NASA infrastructure and assets gets sold or leased at auction with a performance clause that it reverts back if the buyer doesn't keep it up and a clause for a percentage of any profits that are made to go to funding technology education and R&D type things, or something along those lines.

[LouC]

Sounds good to me, i have to admit some ignorance on the subject but i wonder what other countries spend on space programs compared to what we do.

Japan, India, China are on the move into space big time.

December 19 2008

Worldwide Governments Spend 62 Billion Dollars On Space Programs
Euroconsult has announced that world government space program expenditures are at a historical high of more than $62 billion dollars in 2008, with planned satellite launches in the next ten years to increase 38% over the previous decade.

According to Euroconsult's new report "Government Space Markets, World Prospects to 2017", governments have clearly entered a new phase of investment, committing to the development of a new generation of programs worldwide. Furthermore, government space program expenditures worldwide are expected to grow at 4.5% per year through 2012, reaching nearly $70 billion.

Click LINK (http://www.spacemart.com/reports/Worldwide_Governments_Spend_62_Billion_Dollars_On_ Space_Programs_999.html)

[Ronald Reagan]

Boy, do I wish Dr. Paul was president.


I'm optimistic about the future with Rand Paul is getting into politics. I think he's a younger, more attractive candidate than his father is.


Gupta and that other guy are a bunch of clowns. The Asian guy quotes Dr. Friedman, but then wont say his entire plan for health care? What a tool.

[Ninjacorpse]

Japan, India, China are on the move into space big time.

Thanks lou, this is what i was wanting to find out

However, 95% of this spending is concentrated in the US.

[Kentucky Thinker]

lol,oh,trust me,I could too even though everything from farmers to Astronauts may get mad at me.:cool:

If I were in charge I would make sure Americans received bills for taxes every payday instead of automatic payroll deductions. I think if that happened you would probably see an incremental rollback in government to at least the time before LBJ. These recent town hall meetings would look like love-ins compared to some of the havoc taxpayers would wreak.

[LouC]

Thanks lou, this is what i was wanting to find out

No problem.

[thomas]

Although I was surprised to see Mitt on Sean's show today...It seams like Fred,Mitt,Juan,etc,etc are gone...you don't hear a peep
The only people you hear speaking out about this crap is talk radio,Fox and Paul...and thankfully for them Americans are now rallying...imo


This is wise. The republicans need to stay quiet and let the democrats hang themselves. Just quietly stand in the background and keep quiet, let the dems kill their own support.

[tom1468]

If we didn't have these foolish wars we'd have had more terror attacks on US soil.

First let me say that I do not think Ron trumped these people in the video. I think he did as well as them and no better. I do not think this debate had a winner.

But to your point, I do not think Ron Paul is against going after terrorist. I think he could support going after and killing any terrorist who is a threat to america. I do ,however, think he is against nation building.

No one can tell me that the United States can not wipe out Iraq and Afganistan is no time at all. We have been at this since 2001 and most of the time has been spent providing security , allowing them to vote, etc etc. We are nation building.

How about we focus on terrorist. The terrorist are the threat. Our job is to get the terrorist and leave.
Is everyone trying to tell me that we cant kick a 3rd world country's ass?
Is everyone trying to tell me that we do not have the intel to get the terrorist?
Are we that bad?

Go after the terrorist, corner them, kill them

I do not mean to support Ron Paul, cause I am not one of his supporters but he is right.
How about we take all these men over there that are focused on nation building and turn them loose to hunt the terrorist like dogs and then bring them home.
If we would have done that from the start , this would all be history already. Hell if we would have done just this, Iraq and Afganistan would both be safer as well.

[Buschb]

The Asian guy quotes Dr. Friedman, but then wont say his entire plan for health care? What a tool.

That was amazing

[ThinkingMan]

Ah, Dr. Paul. Someone who should be president, so therefore never will be.

Wattaya gonna do.

[RedStatePaPa]

Without getting crazy here, where we going to cut a hundred billion or more at?

No idea.

But it seems foolish to cut off your nose to spite your face.

[Gravityspeak]

Amen....Hell I tell you John...If wasn't for Beck,Sean,Paul,Levin,The Judge,Laura,Neil and Rush(one's in the limelight)...Americans might never know the power grab...

Yep, now if we can just get the afore-mentioned to stand behind a principled candidates in the next presidential election, we'll be in business!

[yesterdaystomorrow]

Ah, Dr. Paul. Someone who should be president, so therefore never will be.

Wattaya gonna do.

A smart man, no doubt. Although some of ideas are out there, he definitely has the right motives.

Ideally, he would've been the Republican nominee. Sadly, the base decided to laugh, marginalize, and paint Paul as a kook, when he was the only one who had a brain out of all of the candidates.

The same people that are crying about their constitutional rights and liberty stood silent when Paul rightfully criticized the previous administrations wrongdoing. That's why it's hard to take most people seriously who are whining about their freedoms and are all of a sudden constitutional scholars... because they are the same ones who mocked Dr.Paul.

... And they still do.

[RedStatePaPa]

Nasa is one program I would not like to see axed...lol

What is it with you guys? :lol:


Axe NASA, axe the military.

Do you hate technology? How often do you guys bathe? ;)

[Foosy]

You catch the judges short talk on Glenn Beck?

If not, watch here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVDG8cM-zu0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecampaignforliberty%2Ecom%2 Findex%2Ephp&feature=player_embedded#t=33

[Buschb]

What is it with you guys? :lol:


Axe NASA, axe the military.

Do you hate technology? How often do you guys bathe? ;)

:lol:

I personally view Space/Nasa as a National security issue....It's 2009...
Just as much as the borders should be foolproof.....I think space is just important

[ThinkingMan]

A smart man, no doubt. Although some of ideas are out there, he definitely has the right motives.

Ideally, he would've been the Republican nominee. Sadly, the base decided to laugh, marginalize, and paint Paul as a kook, when he was the only one who had a brain out of all of the candidates.

The same people that are crying about their constitutional rights and liberty stood silent when Paul rightfully criticized the previous administrations wrongdoing. That's why it's hard to take most people seriously who are whining about their freedoms and are all of a sudden constitutional scholars... because they are the same ones who mocked Dr.Paul.

... And they still do.

Yep. Shame we have this media driven off the rack image obsessed culture.

Dr. Paul was the only one I heard of proposing to repeal Sarbanes-Oxley, knowing that it is the quintessential congressional knee jerk reaction to corporate scandal that costs this country billions of dollars and who knows how many jobs.

[Gravityspeak]

A smart man, no doubt. Although some of ideas are out there, he definitely has the right motives.

Ideally, he would've been the Republican nominee. Sadly, the base decided to laugh, marginalize, and paint Paul as a kook, when he was the only one who had a brain out of all of the candidates.

The same people that are crying about their constitutional rights and liberty stood silent when Paul rightfully criticized the previous administrations wrongdoing. That's why it's hard to take most people seriously who are whining about their freedoms and are all of a sudden constitutional scholars... because they are the same ones who mocked Dr.Paul.

... And they still do.

Utter irony. Maybe Paul will get a more serious look this time around. Truly the only candidate to champion the constitution on all fronts. Hopefully the Rs and Rinos will stop chastising him and his supporters.

[Buschb]

You catch the judges short talk on Glenn Beck?

If not, watch here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVDG8cM-zu0&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Ecampaignforliberty%2Ecom%2 Findex%2Ephp&feature=player_embedded#t=33

thank you

[Ninjacorpse]

What is it with you guys? :lol:


Axe NASA, axe the military.

Do you hate technology? How often do you guys bathe? ;)

Why, do you want to watch us in the bath? :razz:

[tarpoon]

Foolish war..... Go four weeks without gasoline in this country and see what kind of war you get. Maybe you meant "foolish that we needed to go to war" or the next foolish war for oil. Then I would have to agree.

[nebcon]

If I were in charge I would make sure Americans received bills for taxes every payday instead of automatic payroll deductions. I think if that happened you would probably see an incremental rollback in government to at least the time before LBJ. These recent town hall meetings would look like love-ins compared to some of the havoc taxpayers would wreak.

This may seem naive of human nature, and there would certainly be problems, but I think that the main reason why some people say "don't touch my program" is because...

1. They have been forced to make an investment in it for years and without any return, that doesn't seem right.

2. The changes or alternatives offered, almost always give them LESS choice and control, not MORE.

I think that is an important distinction to make, especially in light of the health care debate. Replace government run medicare with something that clearly gives recipients more control and choices, and they won't be getting up and saying "NO NO NO".

[nebcon]

What about all of the other wasteful spending. I'd rather spend the money going after terrorists and cut spending in other areas.

Paul loses me here over and over.

The why medicare part "D"?