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toeknee
August 15th, 2009, 12:22 am
Bullet wound not noticed as robbery suspect jailed

By MEGAN HOLLAND
mholland@adn.com

Published: August 14th, 2009 04:57 PM
Last Modified: August 14th, 2009 04:57 PM

Anchorage police arrested and booked a robbery suspect into jail on Thursday without noticing he had a bullet wound in his back.

Police did not see the injury :)) nor did the accused man mention he was hurt, police said in a statement.

Marcus Young, 21, was charged with second-degree robbery but the gunshot wound is apparently not related to that charge.

The Girl from Ipanema
August 15th, 2009, 12:48 am
:eek: Ok that's pretty weird.

No indication of how it got there?

Police: Hey you've got a bullet wound.
Guy: Yeah.

and they just go on their way?

The Girl from Ipanema
August 15th, 2009, 12:50 am
Since it was in Anchorage, I guess it wasn't related to the other guy who got a gun past all the checkpoints when he was imprisoned.

Gunslinger
August 15th, 2009, 12:50 am
Not unusual. I've seen people shot that are not bleeding and the entrance wound is closed up behind the bullet so it looks almost like an abrasion and nothing else.

If he made no complaint and he wasn't bleeding, how were they going to know?

This is assuming it was not bleeding and the wound was as described.

The Girl from Ipanema
August 15th, 2009, 12:58 am
That's interesting, Gunslinger. I had no idea. I just assumed if you got shot, a mess be involved.

jimjames418
August 15th, 2009, 2:41 am
Just wait, some liberal democrat will file an ethics charge against Palin for the shooting. :evil:

Samm
August 15th, 2009, 3:54 am
Just wait, some liberal democrat will file an ethics charge against Palin for the shooting. :evil:

That would be Parnell, not Palin.

OldBuzzard
August 15th, 2009, 6:14 am
That would be Parnell, not Palin.

That won't matter to the moonbats Samm. It will still be Gov. Palin's fault as far as they are concerned :lol:

PAAAAAAAAAAAAAALIN!

Samm
August 15th, 2009, 3:25 pm
That won't matter to the moonbats Samm. It will still be Gov. Palin's fault as far as they are concerned :lol:

PAAAAAAAAAAAAAALIN!

My point is, you cannot file ethics complaints against a regular citizen.

jimjames418
August 15th, 2009, 4:24 pm
My point is, you cannot file ethics complaints against a regular citizen.
I know you can't. But what do you want to bet some moonbat will try. :think:

FidelisAdMortem
August 15th, 2009, 4:32 pm
This is actually not unheard of. As you all know you dont strip search prisoners for any offense, therefore, if the perp does not state such, nor is there physical evidence of a gunshot sound, the officer conducting a patdown/search wouldnt necessarily come across it.

toeknee
August 15th, 2009, 5:54 pm
This is actually not unheard of. As you all know you dont strip search prisoners for any offense, therefore, if the perp does not state such, nor is there physical evidence of a gunshot sound, the officer conducting a patdown/search wouldnt necessarily come across it.

in Anchorage they striped and beat a 60 year old (white) man
but got sued for it :))
this is no surprise to us,
remember Palins ex-brother in law drunk drove in his trooper car
and still has his job!

FidelisAdMortem
August 15th, 2009, 8:47 pm
That has nothing to do with my comment, therefore my comment stands.

The Girl from Ipanema
August 15th, 2009, 9:35 pm
Y'all are takin the funny out of the story.:cry:

Samm
August 15th, 2009, 9:57 pm
I know you can't. But what do you want to bet some moonbat will try. :think:

I'll take that bet. What are you willing to risk?

jimjames418
August 15th, 2009, 10:01 pm
I'll take that bet. What are you willing to risk?
How about a beer at the White House. I hear Obama is big on those. ;)

gdoane
August 15th, 2009, 11:16 pm
:eek: Ok that's pretty weird.

No indication of how it got there?

Police: Hey you've got a bullet wound.
Guy: Yeah.

and they just go on their way?

http://newsminer.com/news/2009/aug/15/bullet-wound-unnoticed-until-man-booked-anchorage-/

It seems that Marcus Young (Bullet Boy) was at the scene of a shooting when he was arrested for the burglary of a woman's wallet. This criminal act probably put him clean out of any mood to be chatty with the cops. After all, he could reasonably expect that the cops were there to make his life worse.

It must not have been much of a gun. Maybe a .22 or a .25 at most. Crooks tend to gravitate towards the cheaper firearms, mainly because a life of crime just doesn't pay all that well.

I never carry much money in my wallet and I don't know many people who do. Sum total contents of my wallet right now is $25, which is more than I usually have on me. My house would sorely disappoint a burglar looking for cash or jewelry.

I don't see how the idiots can make a living because if they only clear $25 per burglary and they rob a house every single day (no mean feat to do that and go undetected) then they're only making $25 * 365 days per year = $9,125 annually. A Wal*Mart Greeter takes home more cash than that and doesn't risk prison time.

Or getting shot in the back, for that matter.

Samm
August 15th, 2009, 11:18 pm
How about a beer at the White House. I hear Obama is big on those. ;)

You win; I concede.

I would rather go to a soiree at Pelose's vineyard than spend ten seconds with Obama; free beer or not. :neutral:

Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese
August 15th, 2009, 11:43 pm
I dunno, there was a guy that dropped outside an after-hours club and the cops thought it was an OD. He was DOA by the time the ambo got him to the hospital, and when he got to the morgue it turned out he had been shot with a .22 from who the hell knows where. They didn't see the entrance wound because he got shot in the armpit when his arm was raised.

Weird **** like that happens more than you might think.

meggers49
August 16th, 2009, 10:27 am
Not unusual. I've seen people shot that are not bleeding and the entrance wound is closed up behind the bullet so it looks almost like an abrasion and nothing else.

If he made no complaint and he wasn't bleeding, how were they going to know?

This is assuming it was not bleeding and the wound was as described.

One of the girls I work with was Triaging one evening (I work in a city Emergency Department). She said this very polite man walked up to her (and at this time, it is a looooong walk due to construction) and said, "excuse me ma'am, but I think I've been shot." She asked him where and he replied, "everywhere". She got a wheelchair and brought him in back. He had been shot four times in the torso.

Adrenaline is a funny thing.

eta: we wondered how many times he'd need to be shot before he was SURE he was shot instead of just thinking so......

meggers49
August 16th, 2009, 10:32 am
http://newsminer.com/news/2009/aug/15/bullet-wound-unnoticed-until-man-booked-anchorage-/

It seems that Marcus Young (Bullet Boy) was at the scene of a shooting when he was arrested for the burglary of a woman's wallet. This criminal act probably put him clean out of any mood to be chatty with the cops. After all, he could reasonably expect that the cops were there to make his life worse.

It must not have been much of a gun. Maybe a .22 or a .25 at most. Crooks tend to gravitate towards the cheaper firearms, mainly because a life of crime just doesn't pay all that well.

I never carry much money in my wallet and I don't know many people who do. Sum total contents of my wallet right now is $25, which is more than I usually have on me. My house would sorely disappoint a burglar looking for cash or jewelry.

I don't see how the idiots can make a living because if they only clear $25 per burglary and they rob a house every single day (no mean feat to do that and go undetected) then they're only making $25 * 365 days per year = $9,125 annually. A Wal*Mart Greeter takes home more cash than that and doesn't risk prison time.

Or getting shot in the back, for that matter.

they may be cheaper, not not necessarily useless. Most of my homicides have been caused by a .22 or a .25......they just take longer to die. Turns everything inside into hamburger.

meggers49
August 16th, 2009, 10:35 am
I dunno, there was a guy that dropped outside an after-hours club and the cops thought it was an OD. He was DOA by the time the ambo got him to the hospital, and when he got to the morgue it turned out he had been shot with a .22 from who the hell knows where. They didn't see the entrance wound because he got shot in the armpit when his arm was raised.

Weird **** like that happens more than you might think.

absolutely.

That is why when we have a person who comes in unresponsive for no particular reason, we always roll them over to check their back. There have been many bullet holes missed because there was no visible blood and no one knew what was going on to give us info. Sometimes the ambulance folks just don't have the time to look. no knock against them, but it's easier to get the person going in the rig as they are coming to the hospital...

strange **** happens all the time.

gdoane
August 16th, 2009, 11:24 am
they may be cheaper, not not necessarily useless. Most of my homicides have been caused by a .22 or a .25......they just take longer to die. Turns everything inside into hamburger.

I think that may be a matter of quantity, not quality. The .22 and .25 is cheaper, therefore more commonplace. I'd never use anything smaller than a .380 or 9mm because I want stopping power. My preferred caliber is .357 Magnum. I've tried .44 Magnum but the gun is painful to shoot in practice, while my .357's can purr with .38 Special loads and I can practice with them for hours without spraining my wrist.

I like the wheelguns better than the semi-autos because you never have to clear a revolver from a misfire. You can just pull the trigger again.

Shooting is an expensive hobby. Every time I pull the trigger in practice, it costs about a buck but I consider it cheap insurance. If I need my gun, then I'll be able to use it well and get the job done. It's gotten even more expensive with gun-grabbing maniac Obama in office and people scared that guns will be outlawed by our current government. Now is not the time to be cheap when it comes to self defense. I'm buying more guns than ever before because I know how much it ticks off the Obama administration to see guns and ammo sales going through the roof.

Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese
August 16th, 2009, 11:34 am
I think that may be a matter of quantity, not quality. The .22 and .25 is cheaper, therefore more commonplace. I'd never use anything smaller than a .380 or 9mm because I want stopping power. My preferred caliber is .357 Magnum. I've tried .44 Magnum but the gun is painful to shoot in practice, while my .357's can purr with .38 Special loads and I can practice with them for hours without spraining my wrist.

I like the wheelguns better than the semi-autos because you never have to clear a revolver from a misfire. You can just pull the trigger again.

Shooting is an expensive hobby. Every time I pull the trigger in practice, it costs about a buck but I consider it cheap insurance. If I need my gun, then I'll be able to use it well and get the job done. It's gotten even more expensive with gun-grabbing maniac Obama in office and people scared that guns will be outlawed by our current government. Now is not the time to be cheap when it comes to self defense. I'm buying more guns than ever before because I know how much it ticks off the Obama administration to see guns and ammo sales going through the roof.

A larger caliber will punch right through you, but a small caliber bullet will often take a tour of your whole body. Bounces around inside you like a pinball.

FidelisAdMortem
August 16th, 2009, 11:36 am
That depends, Ive seen a small caliber lodge right beneath the skin of a victim.

chem_fem
August 16th, 2009, 1:37 pm
I don't see how the idiots can make a living because if they only clear $25 per burglary and they rob a house every single day (no mean feat to do that and go undetected) then they're only making $25 * 365 days per year = $9,125 annually. A Wal*Mart Greeter takes home more cash than that and doesn't risk prison time.

Or getting shot in the back, for that matter.

Well, but you're assuming that they only clear $25 per burglary based on how much you carry, right? Realistically, they're going to average a lot more than that if they steal people's wallets. Plus, if they target people's houses, they're going to average a lot more than $25 between money people have, jewelry, electronics and whatever else they end up taking. Plus, working at Walmart might not be an option. Does Walmart hire people with records?

My favorite part of this story is that he didn't say anything! If I was about to be put in jail, pretty sure I'd speak up and tell someone that I had been shot, because I'd much rather the police take me to the hospital than jail, even if it would be just a short detour.

meggers49
August 16th, 2009, 1:39 pm
I think that may be a matter of quantity, not quality. The .22 and .25 is cheaper, therefore more commonplace. I'd never use anything smaller than a .380 or 9mm because I want stopping power. My preferred caliber is .357 Magnum. I've tried .44 Magnum but the gun is painful to shoot in practice, while my .357's can purr with .38 Special loads and I can practice with them for hours without spraining my wrist.

I like the wheelguns better than the semi-autos because you never have to clear a revolver from a misfire. You can just pull the trigger again.

Shooting is an expensive hobby. Every time I pull the trigger in practice, it costs about a buck but I consider it cheap insurance. If I need my gun, then I'll be able to use it well and get the job done. It's gotten even more expensive with gun-grabbing maniac Obama in office and people scared that guns will be outlawed by our current government. Now is not the time to be cheap when it comes to self defense. I'm buying more guns than ever before because I know how much it ticks off the Obama administration to see guns and ammo sales going through the roof.

wheel guns also have fewer things that break.

we are having serious ammo problems up here. husband took daughter out shooting at the academy. used his Beretta 92 (gonna be her gun when she's old enough)....they had tons of 9mm because no one is using it any more, but there is no or damned near no .40 or .45. Sheriff and city have had to alter how they're doing things because of lack of ammo. No fall inservice for city and county not transitioning to new guns until spring d/t lack of ammo. husband said, ammo locker was BARE.

not good.

gdoane
August 16th, 2009, 2:26 pm
A larger caliber will punch right through you, but a small caliber bullet will often take a tour of your whole body. Bounces around inside you like a pinball.

Which is exactly what you don't want because if a villain is coming at you with a knife or a club or what have you, the pinball action won't drop him to the floor.

My Ruger .357 Magnum is loaded with Black Talons, and my S&W .357 Magnum is loaded with Hornady Flex Tip hollowpoints. Either round has fantastic stopping power, enough to stop a charging bull dead in its tracks.

When a threat is bad enough to require deadly force, a pinball ain't going to do the trick. Bad guy needs to fall down go boom. If he's on crack or meth then he's not even going to feel a thing if it's just a little popgun hit him and he can still do a lot of damage while you're waiting for him to bleed to death.

chip
August 16th, 2009, 3:21 pm
Ill top this story with another weird one

http://www.kbmt12.com/news/local/52592012.html

600 Pound SETX Man Uses His Rolls of Fat to Smuggle Weapons into Prison