Dirty Little Secrets by Chuck Norris (Gov. Healthcare)

[Oregon]

Anybody read this article?

http://townhall.com/columnists/ChuckNorris/2009/08/11/dirty_secret_no_1_in_obamacare

Had not heard some of this before.

[Lee Kington]

What are some of them?

[Sun]

Sean was talking about this. Another case of the govt. controlling you kids and not you.

[nunyadb]

What are some of them?

Basically, Chuck mentioned where the Bill mandates the government to come into
people's homes and ensure that the child is being reared to the fashion that the
government deems most appropriate.
Once again, "the village" seems to be being run by the idiots.

This is not only morally reprehensible, but factually unworkable.
What will result from this is parents terrified of being "ratted out" by their
children to the government for their religious beliefs, moral beliefs, and any thing
else that the government finds "unsuitable".

Parents have the authority over their children, not the government.
Unless of course we wish to emulate Stalin, Mao, and a few other notables
across history.

[sgdp]

I could not care less what Chuck Norris thinks.

[WildRose]

I could not care less what Chuck Norris thinks.That's too bad. I have met Chuck, even helped with some of his charity work. He'd be more than willing to give you five minutes to hear your thoughts if you bumped into him on the street.

He's a b or c actor at best, but he's a teriffic guy who gives tirelessly in his youth programs and has really made a difference in the lives of a lot of very poor, "at risk" children in the inner cities.

[EnchantedFrog]

"I decided to research the reasons so many are opposed to Obamacare to separate the facts from the fantasy. What I discovered is that there are indeed dirty little secrets buried deep within the 1,000-plus page health care bill." - Chuck Norris

Rahm has already dispatched the CCAS (Chicago Character Assassination Squad).

[sgdp]

That's too bad. I have met Chuck, even helped with some of his charity work. He'd be more than willing to give you five minutes to hear your thoughts if you bumped into him on the street.

He's a b or c actor at best, but he's a teriffic guy who gives tirelessly in his youth programs and has really made a difference in the lives of a lot of very poor, "at risk" children in the inner cities.

Angelina Jolie, Bono, and MJ are/were the same way. I still don't care what they think about legislation.

I think caring too much what others think is causing us problems. Popularity factor is a huge reason Obama got elected.

[WildRose]

Angelina Jolie, Bono, and MJ are/were the same way. I still don't care what they think about legislation.

I think caring too much what others think is causing us problems. Popularity factor is a huge reason Obama got elected.Well the reality is, that for better or worse celebrities are sought to champion one cause or another because for what ever reason they do "help" with them.

Chuck has in my opinion pretty much been on the right side of every issue he's ever been public about and his support has helped a lot of people.

As for Obama, you are quite correct, but the reality is, every election is a popularity contest.

[sgdp]

Well the reality is, that for better or worse celebrities are sought to champion one cause or another because for what ever reason they do "help" with them.

Of course. And if a celebrity status is had, it might as well be used for some good.

Chuck has in my opinion pretty much been on the right side of every issue he's ever been public about and his support has helped a lot of people. I didn't agree with his endorsement of Huckabee. I didn't agree with Huckabee in general. I don't particularly know where Chuck Norris stands on anything, though. And I'm not sure why I should care.

Kind of like how I don't care what Tom Cruise thinks about mental health remedies, or which book Oprah thinks I should read.

But regardless of how much I agree or not with someone, I do respect charity work. Was actually unaware of Don Imus' charity work until that episode of Hannity last week. Couldn't sit through the whole thing, but I respect Imus for his contributions.

As for Obama, you are quite correct, but the reality is, every election is a popularity contest.

But there can't have been celebrity endorsements quite as much as with Obama. He really targeted the youth vote, most susceptible to popularity voting. Not even that his ideas or what he stood for were necessarily the epitome of his popularity, but that the man himself was popular. He was unique. New. Good-looking. A breath of fresh air. Hip. Cool. Whatever.

In that way, it wasn't like every other popularity election.

[WildRose]

In that way, it wasn't like every other popularity election.
No election is like "every other" election.

Some history though.

Kennedy himself as well as many throughout history gave great weight to his physical appearance for his win. His was the first televised debate, and while the policy differences between the two candidates were not all that great, his charm and good looks, won over a lot of voters in the eyes of many who observed it.

Reagan's appeal was quite similar. He had a kindly but thoughtful and intelligent appearance and demeanour which diffused his enemies, made them often look silly, and invoked calm and confidence in voters.

Obama's was different in that his every campaign appearance was produced and choreographed by the best in the business from Hollywood.

[sgdp]

No election is like "every other" election. I never meant to infer that was the case.

Some history though.

Kennedy himself as well as many throughout history gave great weight to his physical appearance for his win. His was the first televised debate, and while the policy differences between the two candidates were not all that great, his charm and good looks, won over a lot of voters in the eyes of many who observed it.

Reagan's appeal was quite similar. He had a kindly but thoughtful and intelligent appearance and demeanour which diffused his enemies, made them often look silly, and invoked calm and confidence in voters.

Obama's was different in that his every campaign appearance was produced and choreographed by the best in the business from Hollywood.

That's politics, eh? Here's some history of a personal variety:

When I was 12, I wanted Blagojevich to win his run for governor. Why?

He reminded me of Michael J. Fox. :drool:

[Oregon]

That's too bad. I have met Chuck, even helped with some of his charity work. He'd be more than willing to give you five minutes to hear your thoughts if you bumped into him on the street.

He's a b or c actor at best, but he's a teriffic guy who gives tirelessly in his youth programs and has really made a difference in the lives of a lot of very poor, "at risk" children in the inner cities.

He certainly seems to want to make a difference for good.

[VR2009]

Basically, Chuck mentioned where the Bill mandates the government to come into
people's homes and ensure that the child is being reared to the fashion that the
government deems most appropriate.
Once again, "the village" seems to be being run by the idiots.

This is not only morally reprehensible, but factually unworkable.
What will result from this is parents terrified of being "ratted out" by their
children to the government for their religious beliefs, moral beliefs, and any thing
else that the government finds "unsuitable".

Parents have the authority over their children, not the government.
Unless of course we wish to emulate Stalin, Mao, and a few other notables
across history.
Reminds me of a funny situation that happened to me when my daughter was 2 years old...she wanted to use my laptop and I said no...she picked up the phone in the other room and called 911!!! Imagine that happening now....

[timadous]

My two daughters were born in a country with national healthcare. After each birth a nurse would come to the house weigh and measure the child, and do a general check to see if their development was on track: e.g. did they respond to stimuli correctly or did they have a hearing or sight problem; did they sit, crawl, stand and walk at appropriate stages or was there indication of a concealed physical problem; did they cry excessively or did they respond inappropriately to any number of factors.
Just because i became a parent (even with a LOT of reading) didn't make me an expert at recognizing developmental problems where early intervention could greatly ameliorate the negative consequenses.
I suppose I could have gone to the doctor weekly (and the national health program would have allowed that--unlike my current Blue Cross policy) but the visits were were far less burdensome.
THIS is what is in the bill.

Oh yeah, let's not forget that the mothers had the feeling of support and someone with whom they could discuss their concerns, and feelings of inadquacies that are common among new moms.--some people just don't have none judgemtal mother-in-laws. The nurses could also keep an eye open for signs of post-partum depression.

So please tell me how this government interferance indotrinate my children?

But this hit piece misrepresents the intent of the bill and frmames it in a way toappeal to the black-helicoptor-mob.

What a disservice to the national debate.

[markd]

I get really confused as to which celebrity's opinion is supposed to matter.

[ddye]

Wait a minute, are celebrities supposed to shut up or not?

I am sooooooooooooo confused...

Doug

[hailreagan]

Wait a minute, are celebrities supposed to shut up or not?

I am sooooooooooooo confused...

Doug


That depends. Can we classify you as a celebrity given your popularity on the board?

:angel:

[ddye]

That depends. Can we classify you as a celebrity given your popularity on the board?

:angel:
Nice deflection. You avoid the issue of why the right wants celebrities to shut up, unless that celebrity is a right winger.

There's a word for that but I can't remember...

Doug

[Mojotiger]

There's a word for that but I can't remember...



Evil-Monger?

[ddye]

Evil-Monger?
No, it starts with "h"...

Doug

[Mojotiger]

No, it starts with "h"...

Doug

Hippie?

[hailreagan]

Nice deflection. You avoid the issue of why the right wants celebrities to shut up, unless that celebrity is a right winger.

There's a word for that but I can't remember...

Doug


You are no fun, no fun at all..............

[LibertyinAtl]

Nice deflection. You avoid the issue of why the right wants celebrities to shut up, unless that celebrity is a right winger.

There's a word for that but I can't remember...
Doug

Doug man.. you better be careful...We are talking about Chuck Norris...
He might just show up and stomp your butt....
We are not talking about the Dixie Chicks...

[Joe Sixpack]

I could not care less what Chuck Norris thinks.

Et tu, Rostov?

[CutRunSurrender]

I hear Chuck performed a tracheotomy on himself without anesthesia.

Also heard that Chuck's not bound by the law of gravity. Gravity is bound by the law of Chuck Norris.

[ddye]

You are no fun, no fun at all..............
Oh come on, put 18 or 20 beers in me and I'm a ****ing ENTERTAINER BABY!!!! :D

Doug

[Joe Sixpack]

I hear Chuck performed a tracheotomy on himself without anesthesia.

Also heard that Chuck's not bound by the law of gravity. Gravity is bound by the law of Chuck Norris.

And there's no chin under that beard, just another fist.

[Joe Sixpack]

No, it starts with "h"...

Doug

Hevil Monger?