Specter facing Educated Citizens and He Can't Handle The Truth!

[Penny in WV]

Specter is in Lebanon, PA for a town hall. One citizen stated he appreciates the Senator showing up to speak to the people considering the "republicans" voted him in office. Priceless!

There are a lot of "educated" people attending this town hall. They HAVE read the bill and they are actually quoting sections and he can't handle it. He is way over his head.

Watching it live on Fox.

[Czhorat]

There are a lot of "educated" people attending this town hall. They HAVE read the bill and they are actually quoting sections and he can't handle it.

I like that you put "educated" in quotes; it's true that many of the protestors are not truly educated about anything, but have read snippets of one bill out of context and are misinterpreting them to play into paranoid delusions and parrot talking points from right-wing talk-radio. "Educated" in quotes is a nice way to differentiate them from voters who really are educated and have a broader understanding of the issue.

[Cutiepie]

I like that you put "educated" in quotes; it's true that many of the protestors are not truly educated about anything, but have read snippets of one bill out of context and are misinterpreting them to play into paranoid delusions and parrot talking points from right-wing talk-radio. "Educated" in quotes is a nice way to differentiate them from voters who really are educated and have a broader understanding of the issue.




and look you got some talking points from GObama! the idiot. Not a single one of these congress critters have read the bill. That is why they are in over their heads. They wanted this pushed through and passed before they had a recess b/c they didn't want to face us. Now they are paying the piper.

[Penny in WV]

I like that you put "educated" in quotes; it's true that many of the protestors are not truly educated about anything, but have read snippets of one bill out of context and are misinterpreting them to play into paranoid delusions and parrot talking points from right-wing talk-radio. "Educated" in quotes is a nice way to differentiate them from voters who really are educated and have a broader understanding of the issue.

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I guess you missed where I said they have READ THE BILL. They are referencing to page numbers.

Your spin is noted. These people KNOW more about what's in this bill then Specter does.

[LibertyinAtl]

Spector is gone in next election...Not a chance in hell of holding that seat...

[penner01]

I like that you put "educated" in quotes; it's true that many of the protestors are not truly educated about anything, but have read snippets of one bill out of context and are misinterpreting them to play into paranoid delusions and parrot talking points from right-wing talk-radio. "Educated" in quotes is a nice way to differentiate them from voters who really are educated and have a broader understanding of the issue. And you're suggesting Congress is more educated than the protestors in respect to the bill? How many times have you heard members say they haven't read it, couldn't possibly read it, and even that they don't have to read it.......Maybe you are assuming you know why Cutie chose to put quotes around the word "educated." It amazes me to see liberal comments that point fingers at the right for things like snippets misrepresenting things to play into delusion....."Parrot talking points?" You are doing it right now.

[E7ALR]

I like that you put "educated" in quotes; it's true that many of the protestors are not truly educated about anything, but have read snippets of one bill out of context and are misinterpreting them to play into paranoid delusions and parrot talking points from right-wing talk-radio. "Educated" in quotes is a nice way to differentiate them from voters who really are educated and have a broader understanding of the issue.Yoyu can bet that every one of those people will vote, if humanly possible, in the mid-term. You and yours just keep making fun of them and see what it gets you. These people are focused on this and talking....to each other, their family members, their neighbors....

You just keep making fun of them and tell us how it works out for you come next election day.

[Always Independent]

These town halls are really exposing how incompetent our current representation is. No wonder they want to deal with this as quietly as they can. God Bless Americans for standing up to this takeover of our wallets and rights. Watching Specter make it up as he goes is kind of depressing, once you get past the entertainment factor.

It needs to be highlighted again, that for all of these decades of activism and billions into grass roots, the DemonRats sure missed the boat on coming up with a coherent plan. I'm beginning to think, that it's not the health care that's important, never was, like many of their social programs, it's the control they get to exert over our lives they seek. What better way to destroy and reform a system such as ours then from the inside out? Tax and spend the current system to death, and who will our saviors be? Hint: they have been campaigning for almost 3 years straight now and show no signs of slowing down.

[blackcatrun]

I like that you put "educated" in quotes; it's true that many of the protestors are not truly educated about anything, but have read snippets of one bill out of context and are misinterpreting them to play into paranoid delusions and parrot talking points from right-wing talk-radio. "Educated" in quotes is a nice way to differentiate them from voters who really are educated and have a broader understanding of the issue.

Those whom have read the bill dont like what they are reading. Context is broken up within the bill so of course sections are going to be point of contention.

Of course the reps representing this obamanation would never sell it short and out right lie saying that objectionable pieces of legislation in the bill like.. end of life counceling or family counceling isnt the feds ending our lives or controling them.


End result people dont want government run health care and wont accept it.
The bill as a whole kills indavidual right and gives the government the rights to control our lives and our deaths.

I am going die at some point in the future IT WIIL BE A FREE MAN, it is most certian when I do die it wont be under obama care.

[E7ALR]

Spector is gone in next election...Not a chance in hell of holding that seat...I will give him his due, he is standing in the line of fire and taking the hits. Too bad he and other elected officials didn't and don't do this more often on issues before voting on these bills.

[PAmoderate37]

Specter is in Lebanon, PA for a town hall. One citizen stated he appreciates the Senator showing up to speak to the people considering the "republicans" voted him in office. Priceless!

There are a lot of "educated" people attending this town hall. They HAVE read the bill and they are actually quoting sections and he can't handle it. He is way over his head.

Watching it live on Fox.

Might be "Priceless" but its not smart. As a state we voted for John Kerry, yet we still voted for Arlen too. That means it was pretty much the Democrats that crossed over that put Arlen in office.

[HawkeyeLonewolf]

I like that you put "educated" in quotes; it's true that many of the protestors are not truly educated about anything, but have read snippets of one bill out of context and are misinterpreting them to play into paranoid delusions and parrot talking points from right-wing talk-radio. "Educated" in quotes is a nice way to differentiate them from voters who really are educated and have a broader understanding of the issue.

1. Have you read the entire bill?

2. Please take each "snippet" and educate us on how the exact words are taken out of context.

We're waiting.

[komobu]

Here it is: http://www.newsnet5.com/video/20356320/index.html

[stereo]

Might be "Priceless" but its not smart. As a state we voted for John Kerry, yet we still voted for Arlen too. That means it was pretty much the Democrats that crossed over that put Arlen in office.

Arlen is gone next election. I don't, as well as many others in Pennsylvania, don't want him.
I can't see how he will carry any Republican voters. I a sure some Democrats and most Independents won't vote for him either.

[LibertyinAtl]

I will give him his due, he is standing in the line of fire and taking the hits. Too bad he and other elected officials didn't and don't do this more often on issues before voting on these bills.
I would not even mind if they read the damn things before they voted for them...

[PAmoderate37]

Arlen is gone next election. I don't, as well as many others in Pennsylvania, don't want him.
I can't see how he will carry any Republican voters. I a sure some Democrats and most Independents won't vote for him either.

The only way he loses is if he gets upset by Sestak in the primary. Toomey or some other hard righty will not carry most suburban republicans - especially women.

[robinlp69]

Great town hall meeting! I am watching this as well and so proud of my fellow Americans!

[Penny in WV]

Might be "Priceless" but its not smart. As a state we voted for John Kerry, yet we still voted for Arlen too. That means it was pretty much the Democrats that crossed over that put Arlen in office.


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Specter ran as a republican, he was elected as a republican, and he took office as a republican. He chose to switch from republican to democrat and made a mockery of the very people who voted him into office. If he wanted to be a democrat, he should have ran as one.

Being called on it...yes, is priceless.

[Ronald Reagan]

OMGZ!! Look at these crazy normal, informed, articulated citizens!

[HawkeyeLonewolf]

Great town hall meeting! I am watching this as well and so proud of my fellow Americans!

Yes! This is incredible and I love these people asking the questions and dropping the "cult of celebrity" with Specter.

[avergbear]

The citizens were informed, intelligent, respectful and calm.

Specter gave canned, evasive answers and it was obvious he was just going through the motions.

[Silentnomore]

OMGZ!! Look at these crazy normal, informed, articulated citizens!


Stop the insanity !!

:dance:

[HawkeyeLonewolf]

"We will hold your feet to the fire!" He just threatened Specter!!!! ARREST HIM!

[RickRhetoric]

These people seriously need to jot down in advance some of the questions they want to ask their representatives at town hall meetings.

Most of them are incoherent, rattled, confused and can't phrase a coherent question to ask Senator Specter. He just asked one guy to tell him what he wanted in the health care reform bill. The old guy babbled a bit, lost his train of thought, and said he wanted ... "tort reform." What?! Everyone giggled.

Specter then moved on to another guy, and he wasn't prepared to ask his question either. He babbled something in a low, mush-mouthed voice that couldn't possibly be understood by anyone.

It's embarrassing.

Come with a prepared script and sound off like you got a pair!

Well, anyway, it shows that these "dissidents" are truly grassroots and haven't been selected, staged or set up by any organized group. They are all too bleeping ignorant, disconnected and unhinged to ask a proper question.

It's embarrasing.

[animalnut]

I like that you put "educated" in quotes; it's true that many of the protestors are not truly educated about anything, but have read snippets of one bill out of context and are misinterpreting them to play into paranoid delusions and parrot talking points from right-wing talk-radio. "Educated" in quotes is a nice way to differentiate them from voters who really are educated and have a broader understanding of the issue.

And you would know that they merely read "snippits" of the bill how? Please explain how their questions were other than informed. I'm assuming from your comments that you watched this to give your analysis, although you don't know any of the questioners. Please give examples so we can understand your assumption that they do not have a broad understanding of the issues.

[Penny in WV]

He really isn't answering the questions. He did however, say if certain issues brought up by the people are in the Senate bill he would not vote for it. He also said he would take the idea of a referendum back to Washington.

Although one would think this is a good idea, I am torn. Let's face it, the voting process in now in question as well. There is so much corruption with no accountability, that I just don't trust the process much anymore.

[RTchoke]

I like how he stated he didn't have to be there doing this kind of stuff.

Another arrogant ass.

[Ronald Reagan]

Wow.

[kat]

I just caught the tail end of it. lot's well dressed astroturf right there!

[blackcatrun]

I like how he ran away from the dept issue. He had a look on his face of oh crap...priceless.

[Iggy]

I was arguing with a guy the other day who was spouting the "you'll be able to keep your current plan" hogwash Obama is always lying about. I pulled out a handy print-out of page 16 and showed him line by line how it will eventually lead to the destruction of the insurance industry so that he will be forced onto the public option.

All he could do is say, "Oh my God. It really is in there."

Amazing what lights go on when you have the proof right in your hand.

[fava]

I like that you put "educated" in quotes; it's true that many of the protestors are not truly educated about anything, but have read snippets of one bill out of context and are misinterpreting them to play into paranoid delusions and parrot talking points from right-wing talk-radio. "Educated" in quotes is a nice way to differentiate them from voters who really are educated and have a broader understanding of the issue.

Are you "educated"?

[Penny in WV]

I like how he stated he didn't have to be there doing this kind of stuff.

Another arrogant ass.

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I know, you believe that? The citizens didn't like that very much...no wonder these people are getting booed.

[jprin]

These people seriously need to jot down in advance some of the questions they want to ask their representatives at town hall meetings.

Most of them are incoherent, rattled, confused and can't phrase a coherent question to ask Senator Specter. He just asked one guy to tell him what he wanted in the health care reform bill. The old guy babbled a bit, lost his train of thought, and said he wanted ... "tort reform." What?! Everyone giggled.

Specter then moved on to another guy, and he wasn't prepared to ask his question either. He babbled something in a low, mush-mouthed voice that couldn't possibly be understood by anyone.

It's embarrassing.

Come with a prepared script and sound off like you got a pair!

Well, anyway, it shows that these "dissidents" are truly grassroots and haven't been selected, staged or set up by any organized group. They are all too bleeping ignorant, disconnected and unhinged to ask a proper question.

It's embarrasing.

All the coherency in the world can't create a credible argument when it's based on internet misinformation fueled by conservative radio talkers. What's embarrassing is how people can ask over and over and over the same questions that have been debunked days ago (".....why are we going to fund euthanasia!?......").

I've seen enough of these town halls to see a trend. Looks to me like the loudest, most vocal challengers intent on distruption, look like they came to the meeting directly from the Republican National Convention.

[LibertyinAtl]

Specter's campaign song:
Bohemian Rhapsody :

"Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide
No escape from reality
Open your eyes
Look up to the skies and see
I'm just a poor boy (poor boy), I need no sympathy
Because I'm easy come, easy go
little high, little low
Anyway the wind blows, doesn't really matter to me, to me"

[Iggy]

All the coherency in the world can't create a credible argument when it's based on internet misinformation fueled by conservative radio talkers. What's embarrassing is how people can ask over and over and over the same questions that have been debunked days ago (".....why are we going to fund euthanasia!?......").

I've seen enough of these town halls to see a trend. Looks to me like the loudest, most vocal challengers intent on distruption, look like they came to the meeting directly from the Republican National Convention.

The peasants are revolting.

[LouC]

I actually was quite impressed with how he handled the situation.

I noticed that he blasted only ONE rumor....bvut none of the other "rumors"...

So he must agree that "access to private bank accounts" is NOT a runmor.

So I must ask.....what kind of Speaker is Pelosi who allowed such a clause be put into ANY bill in America?

At least Specter said he will not vote for it if it is in the final draft.

Considering Senator Specter was answering questions regarding the House Bill he did a fairly good job, but it would have been great if he had answered these questions with respect to what he knew of the House Bill but more importantly what the Senate version being written is saying.

[Penny in WV]

All the coherency in the world can't create a credible argument when it's based on internet misinformation fueled by conservative radio talkers. What's embarrassing is how people can ask over and over and over the same questions that have been debunked days ago (".....why are we going to fund euthanasia!?......").

I've seen enough of these town halls to see a trend. Looks to me like the loudest, most vocal challengers intent on distruption, look like they came to the meeting directly from the Republican National Convention.

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So, you didn't watch.

[avergbear]

All the coherency in the world can't create a credible argument when it's based on internet misinformation fueled by conservative radio talkers. What's embarrassing is how people can ask over and over and over the same questions that have been debunked days ago (".....why are we going to fund euthanasia!?......").

I've seen enough of these town halls to see a trend. Looks to me like the loudest, most vocal challengers intent on distruption, look like they came to the meeting directly from the Republican National Convention.

Spin!!!!!!

The word “Euthanasia” is not in the bill, but the effect of rationing care to seniors accomplishes exactly that. You just don’t call it euthanasia, you call it something else and pretend it doesn’t exist.

Spin….spin….spin….

We’ve had enough!

[Iggy]

________________________

So, you didn't watch.

He's just upset that the unwashed masses are being such a pain to the liberal oligarchy.

[Iggy]

Mama....I just voted yes.
They put a gun against my head
now democracy is dead.
Mama my term has just begun.
But now Ive gone and thrown it all away......

:))

[MrShotShot]

I like that you put "educated" in quotes; it's true that many of the protestors are not truly educated about anything, but have read snippets of one bill out of context and are misinterpreting them to play into paranoid delusions and parrot talking points from right-wing talk-radio. "Educated" in quotes is a nice way to differentiate them from voters who really are educated and have a broader understanding of the issue.

Irrelevent.

The right to free speech - even misinterpreted free speech - is protected under the Constitution.

[jprin]

The peasants are revolting.

Now would be a good time to sell torches and pitchforks on eBay?:dance:

[Penny in WV]

Considering Senator Specter was answering questions regarding the House Bill he did a fairly good job, but it would have been great if he had answered these questions with respect to what he knew of the House Bill but more importantly what the Senate version being written is saying.

_____________________

Does it really matter where the bill is at? They are holding these town halls to try to convince the American people that a total government take-over is the right thing to do and they don't even know what the final version is going to be.

All he has to argue is the house bill, so he better inform himself.

[avergbear]

Now would be a good time to sell torches and pitchforks on eBay?:dance:

I’ve got dibs on the tar & feathers concession. :)

[jprin]

________________________

So, you didn't watch.


Coincidentally, I'm in Pittsburgh as I type - and it's all over local news.

Yes, I saw most of it. I particularly liked the guy who got in Specter's face to yell that he "...was going to be judged (by God)....." Now that's "informed" discussion. :))

[Iggy]

Now would be a good time to sell torches and pitchforks on eBay?:dance:
There's a story in the Washington Times about how anti-Obama bumperstickers, buttons and shirts are starting the really pick up in sales.

[avergbear]

Coincidentally, I'm in Pittsburgh as I type - and it's all over local news.

Yes, I saw most of it. I particularly liked the guy who got in Specter's face to yell that he "...was going to be judged (by God)....." Now that's "informed" discussion. :))

Fox News carried it live, nationally.

[PAmoderate37]

_____________________

Specter ran as a republican, he was elected as a republican, and he took office as a republican. He chose to switch from republican to democrat and made a mockery of the very people who voted him into office. If he wanted to be a democrat, he should have ran as one.

Being called on it...yes, is priceless.

That's part of the problem with politics, people are elected not parties. Its always the same people who elect Specter, a coalition of right leaning Dems and left leaning Repubs, that's why those predicting he demise are way off.

[Penny in WV]

Now would be a good time to sell torches and pitchforks on eBay?:dance:

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No, now is a good time to THROW THE BUMS OUT!

[avergbear]

There's a story in the Washington Times about how anti-Obama bumperstickers, buttons and shirts are starting the really pick up in sales.

"No He Can't" Stickers.

[jprin]

I’ve got dibs on the tar & feathers concession. :)

.......n'kay......then let's split the profits from selling tickets for the rail out of town?

[Penny in WV]

That's part of the problem with politics, people are elected not parties. Its always the same people who elect Specter, a coalition of right leaning Dems and left leaning Repubs, that's why those predicting he demise are way off.

_________________________

You are suppose to vote for the person, however, many people only vote party line. Therefore, it is the party that is voted for, not the person.

You are seeing buyers remorse taking place. We are seeing change, just not the kind Obama was thinking. Those very people that voted Specter in and have now become involved, will hold him accountable for his actions from this point forward. I think even he sees that now.

[Celtic Pax]

I like that you put "educated" in quotes; it's true that many of the protestors are not truly educated about anything, but have read snippets of one bill out of context and are misinterpreting them to play into paranoid delusions and parrot talking points from right-wing talk-radio. "Educated" in quotes is a nice way to differentiate them from voters who really are educated and have a broader understanding of the issue.Unfortunately, you can also place the majority of reps in the "educated" category as well. Most have not even read the bill and few seem to even understand what is in the bill. Many cannot answer questions honestly about the bill as there is NO final bill at present. Senators cannot answer questions about the bill as it has not even made it out of the house yet either so THEY go into the "educated" category as well. When ever I see " have a broader understanding of the issue" I always feel that, that means an arrogant "I am smarter than you so shut up and listen to what I have to say". Most who calim to have a "broader understanding of the issue" have nothing of the kind and are usually just blowing hot air.

[RickRhetoric]

Obama is being very compassionate by allowing his peasants to rant and ask questions about his plan to take away their health care.

Obama clearly has enough votes in the congress to jam his plan down their throats. And he's gonna do it! He's just humoring the protesters. It's long been a known fact that whenever peasants (like soldiers), are given an opportunity to bitch, gripe, rant and vent about something they don't like, they'll always mellow out and accept it.

Americans are like children, and their government is like their parents. Father knows best!

[jprin]

Wow. You are truly a man of the world. Exactly how many of those town hall meetings did you attend?

ZERO:rolleyes:

Or did you just see "snippets" of the town hall meetings that YOUR media deemed was worthy of your viewing?

Snippet or no snippet, the screaming, yelling, and interruptions can't be taken out of context. I don't have a media. But if you're getting all your information off the web and talk radio, I wouldn't criticize others.

Certainly you cant say you saw them on the news seeing as the news does not televise 2 hour town hall meetings.

What does that matter? People screaming and yelling to get their point across is a matter of record - regardless whether it was witnessed personally.

Why are you even making this argument? Why are you defending folks who are yelling and screaming? If you contend it's all a misinuderstanding based on horrid LMSM, then argue with someone else because that is not a rational argument.

SO how many did you attend?

ZERO. So I should bookmark your name and discount every opinion you have on a subject unless you were at the meeting or event? This is a discussion forum - not a courtroom.

[Celtic Pax]

Obama is being very compassionate by allowing his peasants to rant and ask questions about his plan to take away their health care.

Obama clearly has enough votes in the congress to jam his plan down their throats. And he's gonna do it! He's just humoring the protesters. It's long been a known fact that whenever peasants (like soldiers), are given an opportunity to bitch, gripe, rant and vent about something they don't like, they'll always mellow out and accept it.

Americans are like children, and their government is like their parents. Father knows best!:dance:And we ALL know how children listen to their parents, especially their fathers:dance: If :liar:bama thought he had trouble getting blue dog democrats onboard his train wreck before August recess, just wait until AFTER August recess.:D

[jprin]

So you pick one out of 30 questions......

And that is, to you, a true sampling.

Quite pathetic if you ask me.

Apparently, I've upset you? The guy didn't ask a question. He got into Specter's face and yelled about Specter answering to God. Draw whatever conclusion you wish.

[LindaLR]

I was arguing with a guy the other day who was spouting the "you'll be able to keep your current plan" hogwash Obama is always lying about. I pulled out a handy print-out of page 16 and showed him line by line how it will eventually lead to the destruction of the insurance industry so that he will be forced onto the public option.

All he could do is say, "Oh my God. It really is in there."

Amazing what lights go on when you have the proof right in your hand.

Muaaaaaaaaahahahhahahahah

We went to the Hank Johnson town hall last nite, i am one block out of his district, but went anyway. He makes morons look smart. His own panel slapped him around saying that this bill is not the answer, by a long shot. The crowd against the bill outweighed the for crowd, by about 60-40, in our opinion... and it is a HEAVY dem district, and the Organizing for America thugs had registered over 3000 people on their website as responded and attending. That turnout for them was Underwhelming, at the best i can report.
One man asked about where the money is going that will be taken out of Medicare,t he half trillion or so.. how would it impact him as a medicare recipient... JOhnsons reply was
AND I QUOTE VERBATIM:

"Money out will base on providers having more leeway to have better pricing systems"

WHAT?

we live in interesting times and at this point have the opportunity to snap our country back to its original intent. Freedom is not to be taken lightly, nor will it occur in a vacuum, where people just keep sitting on the sofa talking about this year's Idol.

[komobu]

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[Penny in WV]

Apparently, I've upset you? The guy didn't ask a question. He got into Specter's face and yelled about Specter answering to God. Draw whatever conclusion you wish.


________________

The man was upset because he called in advance and was told he would be able to ask questions and voice his concerns. Apparently, he wasn't one of the 30 selected to do so. He was upset about it...I can relate.

Perhaps he should have been told the truth when he called and this could have been avoided.

[Oregon]

The way this thread is described paints a mind picture of the grease starting to ooze from Specter and sizzle as the meeting progressed.

LOL

[RTchoke]

Apparently, I've upset you? The guy didn't ask a question. He got into Specter's face and yelled about Specter answering to God. Draw whatever conclusion you wish.

You talking about the guy who was ****ed that he had called Specter's office numerous times and told he could ask his question at th upcoming town hall and the when he got there found out that only around 30 selected people would get to ask questions?

Frankly I would be a little ****ed to after getting blown off like that.

[LindaLR]

All the coherency in the world can't create a credible argument when it's based on internet misinformation fueled by conservative radio talkers. What's embarrassing is how people can ask over and over and over the same questions that have been debunked days ago (".....why are we going to fund euthanasia!?......").

I've seen enough of these town halls to see a trend. Looks to me like the loudest, most vocal challengers intent on distruption, look like they came to the meeting directly from the Republican National Convention.
Today sounded to me like a lot of informed CITIZENS asked Sphincter a lot of hard questions, and all he did was dismiss them by ignoring the question and saying something else, or he yessed them to death and called for the next number, like his pants were on fire.... there is tape on that tho,, so he cant say he didnt say those things.. lol
Which town halls have you gone to? I have been to two, and participated in a few other events as well, as well a group organizer and promoter of taking back our country and the loud proponent of returning to common sense and self direction. What are YOU doing? If you are looking to your government to DO IT FOR YOU, you are better off looking up your backside cavity for help.

[RTchoke]

________________

The man was upset because he called in advance and was told he would be able to ask questions and voice his concerns. Apparently, he wasn't one of the 30 selected to do so. He was upset about it...I can relate.

Perhaps he should have been told the truth when he called and this could have been avoided.

Not only that but he went on his little diatribe after Specter basically told him he was free to leave. After the crowd chewed his butt about it, he backed off and let the guy talk.

[Penny in WV]

Obama is being very compassionate by allowing his peasants to rant and ask questions about his plan to take away their health care.

Obama clearly has enough votes in the congress to jam his plan down their throats. And he's gonna do it! He's just humoring the protesters. It's long been a known fact that whenever peasants (like soldiers), are given an opportunity to bitch, gripe, rant and vent about something they don't like, they'll always mellow out and accept it.

Americans are like children, and their government is like their parents. Father knows best!

_________________

Ahhh, being you are one of the "peasants" you are okay with that. So, when something is proposed that YOU disagree with, you will be okay with him forcing it down your throat simply because he has enough votes to do it.

As for our soldiers being peasants, that's quite an insult considering if it wasn't for them, you would not be afforded your right to free speech.

How about the next time we need to defend our Country, you go to the front lines and defend our freedom.

[RickRhetoric]

I was just now watching some clips on Fox about Specter's town hall meeting.

Some old guy about 60, in a gray shirt was trying to ask Specter a question when a large, husky, Obama-supporting ghoul grabbed him by his shoulders from behind and shoved him aside. The old guy turned around to face his attacker, but was grabbed and thrown out by an enormous cop.

Wow! Just Wow!

Democracy! I love it!

Viva la revolución!

Gracias!

[Ballygrl]

I like that you put "educated" in quotes; it's true that many of the protestors are not truly educated about anything, but have read snippets of one bill out of context and are misinterpreting them to play into paranoid delusions and parrot talking points from right-wing talk-radio. "Educated" in quotes is a nice way to differentiate them from voters who really are educated and have a broader understanding of the issue.

Let's be honest here, they're sure as heck more well informed then the typical "he's going to pay for my gas and mortgage payment" Obamabot who probably couldn't pass a civics test even if you gave them the answers.

At least these people have read the bill, that's more then the Democrats have done.

[animalnut]

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Ahhh, being you are one of the "peasants" you are okay with that. So, when something is proposed that YOU disagree with, you will be okay with him forcing it down your throat simply because he has enough votes to do it.

As for our soldiers being peasants, that's quite an insult considering if it wasn't for them, you would not be afforded your right to free speech.

How about the next time we need to defend our Country, you go to the front lines and defend our freedom.

What are the chances of that happening?

[animalnut]

ZERO:rolleyes:



Snippet or no snippet, the screaming, yelling, and interruptions can't be taken out of context. I don't have a media. But if you're getting all your information off the web and talk radio, I wouldn't criticize others.



What does that matter? People screaming and yelling to get their point across is a matter of record - regardless whether it was witnessed personally.

Why are you even making this argument? Why are you defending folks who are yelling and screaming? If you contend it's all a misinuderstanding based on horrid LMSM, then argue with someone else because that is not a rational argument.



ZERO. So I should bookmark your name and discount every opinion you have on a subject unless you were at the meeting or event? This is a discussion forum - not a courtroom.


Most of the posters have read the parts of the bill that concern them. How much of it have you read?

[Camp]

I like that you put "educated" in quotes; it's true that many of the protestors are not truly educated about anything, but have read snippets of one bill out of context and are misinterpreting them to play into paranoid delusions and parrot talking points from right-wing talk-radio. "Educated" in quotes is a nice way to differentiate them from voters who really are educated and have a broader understanding of the issue.

What elitist drivel. All Americans have an equal voice, not just the so-called educated.

When I encounter this attitude I see weakness in knowledge and conviction.

[animalnut]

ZERO:rolleyes:



Snippet or no snippet, the screaming, yelling, and interruptions can't be taken out of context. I don't have a media. But if you're getting all your information off the web and talk radio, I wouldn't criticize others.



What does that matter? People screaming and yelling to get their point across is a matter of record - regardless whether it was witnessed personally.

Why are you even making this argument? Why are you defending folks who are yelling and screaming? If you contend it's all a misinuderstanding based on horrid LMSM, then argue with someone else because that is not a rational argument.



ZERO. So I should bookmark your name and discount every opinion you have on a subject unless you were at the meeting or event? This is a discussion forum - not a courtroom.

No, you should turn all of us in. Here's the website: flag@whitehouse.com.

[animalnut]

The peasants are revolting.

Yes they are, and it's great. They are not foolish - they know whenever these yahoos say "you can keep your insurance" and say it's misinformation to say otherwise, that they have simply left the word "temporarily" off their claim.

[fava]

This jut on tv-nurse reading off the bill about end of life coverage and Specter interjects,
"That simply is not true. It is malicious rumors!:

I think his opponent has found a never ending campaign advertisement.

[Electromyographical Alien]

I like that you put "educated" in quotes; it's true that many of the protestors are not truly educated about anything, but have read snippets of one bill out of context and are misinterpreting them to play into paranoid delusions and parrot talking points from right-wing talk-radio. "Educated" in quotes is a nice way to differentiate them from voters who really are educated and have a broader understanding of the issue.
Do you have a source for this?

Otherwise, it is nothing more than a Randy Rhodes talking piece.

[fava]

Do you have a source for this?

Otherwise, it is nothing more than a Randy Rhodes talking piece.

It was a hit and run post. He is trying to sober Randi up to write another post as we type.

[Proud Mom and Teacher]

I like that you put "educated" in quotes; it's true that many of the protestors are not truly educated about anything, but have read snippets of one bill out of context and are misinterpreting them to play into paranoid delusions and parrot talking points from right-wing talk-radio. "Educated" in quotes is a nice way to differentiate them from voters who really are educated and have a broader understanding of the issue.
Is there anyone that can understand the whole bill? They have teams of people trying to decipher the thing.

OHHHH, I get it. You heard on LMSM that the outrage is based on lies and we are just spitting out snippets of misinformation. I think there is someone organizing this. I'll have to watch MSNBC to find out who is feeding the uneducated. :rolleyes:

[muhadeeb99]

From what I gathered from the newscast of Specter's Townhall meeting in Lebanon PA., his responses were positive. Those responses he made were short, perhaps of wanting to listen and not equivocate on any specific questions or statements. Any responses he did make were of him reiterating his senatorial duties to his constituents. I think what he has heard will ring in his mind for a while. But, when he gets back to the senate he will try to illuminate his colleagues of any or little info he has retained. Of course there are his aides that took notes if he forgot most of what was said. Then again are his aides partisan? Will they give him the real skinny of the meeting? I think those comments could be slanted for the spin factor.

[Trip]

The peasants are revolting.

http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/pp337/tjmccann/pitchforks2.gif

Revolting? (no deodorant?) :neutral:

[pattyk]

I loved this one. one guy said about the GM takeover, something about cars that no one wants, of course, referring to the puddle jumpers the gov. now wants them to build.

Spector said something like: paraphrasing: that's important in all this and that's why we had to take them over because they are building cars no one wants to buy.

where is that hand swooshing over the head smilie? he totally got it wrong.

out of touch.

[victwells]

It would be hard to find ANYONE in the US that is less deserving to be re elected than Specter. Specter is for Specter and will say whatever he is told to say.

[penner01]

He really isn't answering the questions. He did however, say if certain issues brought up by the people are in the Senate bill he would not vote for it. He also said he would take the idea of a referendum back to Washington.

Although one would think this is a good idea, I am torn. Let's face it, the voting process in now in question as well. There is so much corruption with no accountability, that I just don't trust the process much anymore.I was listening to a guest on Dennis Miller - I wish I had caught who she was but she was calm collected and astute. One statement she made grabbed me. She recalled as a little girl, the first autograph she had ever wanted. It was her congressman. Now, she remembers when we held our representatives with esteem.....now, we tend to hold most of them in contempt.