Obama's Black Panther Scandal

[darknessesedge]

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/08/obamas_black_panther_scandal.html


culture of corruption as usual.

[Pastor C]

Why because they are black. That is why charges were dropped. Let me a white have none that and I would have seen the inside of bars for a thousand years.

[Tangible]

another "black" thread. Great.

[horse28]

another "black" thread. Great.

Truth hurts doesn't it?

[Tangible]

Truth hurts doesn't it?

yeah, poor white men. I'm sure white people would want to be black at the drop of a hat.

[monkeymom]

another "black" thread. Great.

So this is not a legitimate topic for discussion because they were "black"?? Ok - got it.

[ModerateVoice]

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq143/Roadsong66/black-panthers-300x287.jpg

HOPE

[WildRose]

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/08/obamas_black_panther_scandal.html


culture of corruption as usual.Good, concise, clear article. I would say that I can't believe the current administration would sink so low, but then, I'm pretty sure we ain't seen Nutt'n yet!


Three more years of this..:rolleyes:

[darknessesedge]

Good, concise, clear article. I would say that I can't believe the current administration would sink so low, but then, I'm pretty sure we ain't seen Nutt'n yet!


Three more years of this..:rolleyes:

1.5 yrs left.
2011 gop congress starts the impeachment hearings for obama.

[Tangible]

So this is not a legitimate topic for discussion because they were "black"?? Ok - got it.

no, the emphasis is on them being black...don't just act as if race is a sidebar in this.

What's with all the white victimhood on this site? I mean seriously, whether any white person would want to trade places with black people in todays world is highly unlikely... whether any white person would want to trade places with a black person prior to 1980 is ludicrous.

[ModerateVoice]

no, the emphasis is on them being black...don't just act as if race is a sidebar in this.

What's with all the white victimhood on this site? I mean seriously, whether any white person would want to trade places with black people in todays world is highly unlikely... whether any white person would want to trade places with a black person prior to 1980 is ludicrous.

So, voter intimidation with a club is okay if a black person does it? That makes it excusable?!

[WildRose]

1.5 yrs left.
2011 gop congress starts the impeachment hearings for obama.Can't impeach him simply because we don't like him. "High Crimes and Misdemeanors". Like it or not, I don't think he's breeched that tipping point just yet.

The whole thing about "support and defend the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic" unfortunately will never be used as grounds for impeachment.

Worse yet, the cries will resonate for generations that it was "all about race" even if he was impeached for perfectly legal grounds.

[WildRose]

So, voter intimidation with a club is okay if a black person does it? That makes it excusable?!Well the name of the organization in question here makes it about race.

I can't remember the last time the Black Panthers came out to do or support anything except stirring up racial issues.

[WildRose]

no, the emphasis is on them being black...don't just act as if race is a sidebar in this.No, the color is irrelevant, blocking the entrance to a polling place and displaying weapons in doing so is a federal crime. They were already found guilty, but then Holder gave them a keep out of jail free card.

Never has an AG done anything similar in history; at least not that I'm aware of.

[ModerateVoice]

Well the name of the organization in question here makes it about race.

I can't remember the last time the Black Panthers came out to do or support anything except racial issues.

I can't remember the last time someone stood outside a voter station with a club in their hand and it was considered legal.................I don't care WHO stood outside the voting station with a club in their hand, it was wrong, they were rightfully prosecuted for it, and Eric Holder threw out the conviction..................IMHO, Holder is a racist and a terrorist sympathizer.

[darknessesedge]

Can't impeach him simply because we don't like him. "High Crimes and Misdemeanors". Like it or not, I don't think he's breeched that tipping point just yet.

The whole thing about "support and defend the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic" unfortunately will never be used as grounds for impeachment.

Worse yet, the cries will resonate for generations that it was "all about race" even if he was impeached for perfectly legal grounds.

who said anything about we dont like him so lets impeach him.

that "illegal" war is still going on...libs wanted to impeach bbooosshh
illegal wire tapping is still going on...libs wanted to impeach bbooosshhh
and so on.

[monkeymom]

no, the emphasis is on them being black...don't just act as if race is a sidebar in this.

What's with all the white victimhood on this site? I mean seriously, whether any white person would want to trade places with black people in todays world is highly unlikely... whether any white person would want to trade places with a black person prior to 1980 is ludicrous.

The focus is on the fact that they are members of the Black Panthers ( a group known for thuggery), and that they intimidated voters. I suggest if they don't like being painted with the Black Panther brush, they be a bit more careful about the company they chose to keep.

Your comments about whites trading places with blacks has nothing to do with this story. These gentlemen intimidated voters - it's pretty obvious - it is a Black Panther scandal because they are members - no one forced them to join the BPs.

[Thanatos144]

No, the color is irrelevant, blocking the entrance to a polling place and displaying weapons in doing so is a federal crime. They were already found guilty, but then Holder gave them a keep out of jail free card.

Never has an AG done anything similar in history; at least not that I'm aware of.

Holden like terrorists. His record proves it. Black panthers are nothing but terrorists. Just like Klansmen and nazi are terrorists.

[Tangible]

So, voter intimidation with a club is okay if a black person does it? That makes it excusable?!

yeah, a black man standing outside of a polling place would be intimidate me into not voting and going home

:rolleyes:

[fava]

no, the emphasis is on them being black...don't just act as if race is a sidebar in this.

What's with all the white victimhood on this site? I mean seriously, whether any white person would want to trade places with black people in todays world is highly unlikely... whether any white person would want to trade places with a black person prior to 1980 is ludicrous.

Black Panther is the name of an organization. You made the only connections to it being about blacks. There is no white victim hood. It is about crime and voter suppression.
I take it you support both crime and voter suppression because you were unable to bring yourself to condemn them.

[WildRose]

yeah, a black man standing outside of a polling place would be intimidate me into not voting and going home

:rolleyes:Want to compare this to the kinds of screaming from the left that would have occurred had there been three white cops standing there with billy clubs, blocking access to black voters?

Democrats filed lawsuit after lawsuit in FLA a few years back because local cops had the gall to actually give people speeding tickets, and arrest some DUI drivers on election day...:rolleyes:

[Tangible]

The focus is on the fact that they are members of the Black Panthers ( a group known for thuggery), and that they intimidated voters. I suggest if they don't like being painted with the Black Panther brush, they be a bit more careful about the company they chose to keep.

Your comments about whites trading places with blacks has nothing to do with this story. These gentlemen intimidated voters - it's pretty obvious - it is a Black Panther scandal because they are members - no one forced them to join the BPs.

Who did they intimidate?

[Tangible]

You made the only connections to it being about blacks.

I suppose you missed the post directly under the OP?

[darknessesedge]

yeah, a black man standing outside of a polling place would be intimidate me into not voting and going home

:rolleyes:

maybe not to you..but what about women?
2 men standing guard with clubs would scare most women.
nice try to spin it though.

[Tangible]

Want to compare this to the kinds of screaming from the left that would have occurred had there been three white cops standing there with billy clubs, blocking access to black voters?

Democrats filed lawsuit after lawsuit in FLA a few years back because local cops had the gall to actually give people speeding tickets, and arrest some DUI drivers on election day...:rolleyes:

You said "blocking access to black voters," so I assume that they actually sought to stop black voters.... did these guys actually seek to turn away a white voter....was there any confrontation?

[Tangible]

maybe not to you..but what about women?
2 men standing guard with clubs would scare most women.
nice try to spin it though.

what kind of women?

[WildRose]

You said "blocking access to black voters," so I assume that they actually sought to stop black voters.... did these guys actually seek to turn away a white voter....was there any confrontation?Do you not realize they were found guilty, that the DOJ had proven their case in front of a Federal Judge before Holder gave them a Stay out of Jail Free Card?

Someone was intimidated, called the police, they were arrested, and it went from there.

As far as I know, though, there is no footage of what transpired before the police arrived other than tidbits.

[ModerateVoice]

You said "blocking access to black voters," so I assume that they actually sought to stop black voters.... did these guys actually seek to turn away a white voter....was there any confrontation?

Get off your high horse................they were CONVICTED for voter intimidation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU

[WildRose]

I guess facts don't fit well into this discussion but here's a few.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94b78rnWMP4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94b78rnWMP4)

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/05/29/charges-black-panthers-dropped-obama/ (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/05/29/charges-black-panthers-dropped-obama/)

[fava]

I suppose you missed the post directly under the OP?

Evidently you saw something that no one else did. You might want to get some new glasses.
Again, do you support voter intimidation and supression as you seem to have indicated?

[Tangible]

Do you not realize they were found guilty, that the DOJ had proven their case in front of a Federal Judge before Holder gave them a Stay out of Jail Free Card?

Someone was intimidated, called the police, they were arrested, and it went from there.

As far as I know, though, there is no footage of what transpired before the police arrived other than tidbits.

I understand that they were arrested, but I'm asking for evidence of intimidation.

[bitterclinger84]

yeah, a black man standing outside of a polling place would be intimidate me into not voting and going home

:rolleyes:

MEN WITH CLUBS!

Might not make me go home...but it would probably put a hitch in my giddyup.

[fava]

I thought the guy was playing stupid at first. He has now convinced me he is for real.

[ModerateVoice]

I understand that they were arrested, but I'm asking for evidence of intimidation.

I guess video and a CONVICTION isn't proof enough for you........:rolleyes:

[Tangible]

Evidently you saw something that no one else did. You might want to get some new glasses.
Again, do you support voter intimidation and supression as you seem to have indicated?

I didn't see anything. I just want to see the evidence.

[bitterclinger84]

what kind of women?

This woman, for one.

Are you ****ing kidding me?

[Tangible]

I guess video and a CONVICTION isn't proof enough for you........:rolleyes:

you gave me the surveillance video?

[fava]

I didn't see anything. I just want to see the evidence.

It is quite obvious you can't see anything. Not the op link or the various other links or the picture of men with clubs and paramilitary uniforms.
Yep. This is your new Amerika.

[ModerateVoice]

you gave me the surveillance video?

Goodbye...you're being purposefully truculent about the obvious. Enjoy your partisan view of the world.

[Tangible]

I'm just asking for direct evidence, an earlier poster said that white policemen were accused of voter intimidation...were they convicted? You understand the difference between making a legal argument, and just having an opinion on a situation?

[PSBandit]

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq143/Roadsong66/black-panthers-300x287.jpg

When the SEUI thugs dont work out... BHO can always call in the reinforcements. :lol:

[ddye]

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/08/obamas_black_panther_scandal.html


culture of corruption as usual.
1. That bunch of modern day sissies that call themselves Black Panthers would wet their pants if they ever ran into the REAL Black Panthers.

2. It's a ****ing BLOG!

Doug

[ShinGouki]

yeah, poor white men. I'm sure white people would want to be black at the drop of a hat.

Don't remember the exact quote but... It went something like this.

"Man, a white janitor wouldn't even trade places with me. And I'm rich!"

Chris Rock

[bitterclinger84]

I'm not getting the whole line of reasoning about white people not wanting to trade with black people. Doesn't really have any bearing on the whole MEN WITH CLUBS situation...

[darknessesedge]

I guess video and a CONVICTION isn't proof enough for you........:rolleyes:

your wasting your time buddy...libs and facts...:rolleyes:

[Rurudyne]

yeah, poor white men. I'm sure white people would want to be black at the drop of a hat.
They made a movie about that (college scholarships were involved I believe).

[paulbenedict]

It's hard to believe that the American Thinker thinks that Obama, the first black president, is the first openly racist president since Andrew Jackson.

That's been going around a bunch. That hatred of Churchill's stone bust and the love of Jeremiah Wright's sermons hasn't helped. The admiration for Judge S. based on her speeches (the first openly racist jurist since Taney of Dred Scott fame?) or his prejudgment of the Gates affair has only increased the issue.

Everyone can grow. Racial prejudice does not become bigotry without willful ignorance.

The beer summit impressed me, but I didn't like the part where Gates was allowed to say anything.

[PheonixOps]

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq143/Roadsong66/black-panthers-300x287.jpg

HOPE

Were those guys arrested and convicted of a crime? Note, I certainly don't agree with what they did, but do you have an answer to the question?

[Greyghost]

yeah, a black man standing outside of a polling place would be intimidate me into not voting and going home

:rolleyes:

This statement alone makes me wonder if you know anything about the situation being discussed at all. Or you believe what they did is ok. Either way you don't bring anything constructive to this discussion on a racist organization intimidating voters at a polling place if they were there to vote for McCain. :rolleyes:

[PheonixOps]

So, voter intimidation with a club is okay if a black person does it? That makes it excusable?!

What are the racial demographics of that precicnt? Just curious........

[WildRose]

I understand that they were arrested, but I'm asking for evidence of intimidation.Since they were convicted I'd say it's pretty obvious...:rolleyes:

[WildRose]

Were those guys arrested and convicted of a crime?Try reading the quoted articles....:rolleyes:

[PheonixOps]

Try reading the quoted articles....:rolleyes:

I read it, so "where's the beef"? :rolleyes:

[WildRose]

I read it, so "where's the beef"? :rolleyes:Well I hate to point out the obvious but a conviction by a Federal judge is pretty clear evidence that they were violating the law :rolleyes:

That was in the quoted articles.

[rubicon]

What are the racial demographics of that precicnt? Just curious........
Does it really matter?

Is voter intimidation only when it is blacks feeling it? Or does the intimidation have to be done by someone that was white?

I would venture to guess that if these 2 were white (and that being the only difference) Holder would not have done this.

[animalnut]

I saw a discussion about this yesterday. Supposedly they are considering reopening this case. If they let it go, can you imagine how that opens the door for more activity of this kind at future elections? If they were then arrested, wouldn't they be able to cry "discrimination" because they had let the first bullies do it, even though it violated election law?

[opsyscw]

Black Panther is the name of an organization. You made the only connections to it being about blacks. There is no white victim hood. It is about crime and voter suppression.
I take it you support both crime and voter suppression because you were unable to bring yourself to condemn them.
How many white members are in the Black Panthers?
I would guess about the same number of Black people that were in the KKK.

How many white members are there in the Black Congressional Caucus?
I would guess about the same number of Black people that are in the White Congressional Caucus.

Oh yea, I forgot. There is no White Congressional Caucus.

[WildRose]

I saw a discussion about this yesterday. Supposedly they are considering reopening this case. If they let it go, can you imagine how that opens the door for more activity of this kind at future elections? If they were then arrested, wouldn't they be able to cry "discrimination" because they had let the first bullies do it, even though it violated election law?I heard the same story. Apparently the judge and the prosecuting attorneys are flat incensed that the AAG is trying this crap.

[bitterclinger84]

I heard the same story. Apparently the judge and the prosecuting attorneys are flat incensed that the AAG is trying this crap.

SWEET!

If I were that judge, I'd be ****ed too! Why bother handing down a verdict if some idiot AG is just gonna toss it out?!