Commentary and Video: Did Jesus Give Us The Name Of The Anti Christ???

[whitewolf]

7/31/2009: Commentary and Video: Did Jesus Give Us The Name Of The Anti Christ???

In many of my early posts I was totally convinced Obama was the Anti Christ...he fit the profile (tongue in cheek). Just sent to me this morning was this Video. I will NOT comment on it but will allow those who view it to make up their own minds. I am stunned after watching this...true or not it makes me uncomfortable for many times my gut feelings prove to be accurate. Seeing what is happening today and then knowing how many questions about Obama are not anserwed, it has become a moment to reflect. As Ripley stated, "Believe it or Not"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXMAnlMmEPw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eoilforimmigration%2Eorg%2F facts%2F%3Fp%3D2723&feature=player_embedded

[windstar3x3]

Interesting how Obama fits the M.O. of false messiah as does his glazed eyed intolerant lock-steppers. It has chilling repercussions that fit what we know and that ought not be too quickly dismissed.

[camarozz]

For as interesting that is, and as much as it seems possible, Im thinking that Obama is not the anti-christ. I have a hard time believing that someone that got only about 50% of the vote could ever get popular enough to rule the world.

But I have been proven wrong before...

[MrShotShot]

I'd be interested to hear from anyone who knows Hebrew whether the video is correct.

As an aside, I remember folks thinking Ronald (6 letters) Wilson (6 letters) Reagan (6 letters) was the AC.

[Gabby]

7/31/2009: Commentary and Video: Did Jesus Give Us The Name Of The Anti Christ???

In many of my early posts I was totally convinced Obama was the Anti Christ...he fit the profile (tongue in cheek). Just sent to me this morning was this Video. I will NOT comment on it but will allow those who view it to make up their own minds. I am stunned after watching this...true or not it makes me uncomfortable for many times my gut feelings prove to be accurate. Seeing what is happening today and then knowing how many questions about Obama are not anserwed, it has become a moment to reflect. As Ripley stated, "Believe it or Not"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXMAnlMmEPw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eoilforimmigration%2Eorg%2F facts%2F%3Fp%3D2723&feature=player_embedded

What I really find interesting is that you mention your earlier posts. Yet this is your first post. So you are a re-tread?

[Gabby]

There are two Semitic words that are close in sound but are different in the last consonant and different in meaning. One could be transliterated B-R-Q, and it means "lightning." The other could be transliterated B-R-K, and that root has to do with "bless," "blessing."

Barack Obama's name is this latter root, "bless"/"blessing," and NOT the "lightning" word. This "Barack" does NOT mean "lightning."

[King Cantona]

Well, after reading this thread's opening two posts I find myself laughing. If I was a neighbour of any of you guys I could sell my TV, I'd make my entertainment by sitting in a deckchair in the back yard and watching the many weird rituals that you go through....

Do you dance around with calf's blood spilt over you while the theme tune from The Omen plays? Go on, admit it, don't be shy. Anyway, I wonder how many of you will admit to thinking he's the Anti Christ after he's out of office?...

After he's served 2 terms of course..........:cool:..........

What amazes me is that possibly (probably not) civilised people will actually talk SERIOUSLY about Obama as the Anti Christ. That's akin to people thinking the gods were unhappy with the people when there was a volcanic eruption and offering up a human sacrifice....:rolleyes:....

Grow up will you........

[StoneScratcher]

There are two Semitic words that are close in sound but are different in the last consonant and different in meaning. One could be transliterated B-R-Q, and it means "lightning." The other could be transliterated B-R-K, and that root has to do with "bless," "blessing."

Barack Obama's name is this latter root, "bless"/"blessing," and NOT the "lightning" word. This "Barack" does NOT mean "lightning."

:think: Really?

"BARAK" in the Bible, when taking the letters BRK, means lightening, flash of light, etc.

Why is "Barack", BRQ?

[StoneScratcher]

I'd be interested to hear from anyone who knows Hebrew whether the video is correct.

As an aside, I remember folks thinking Ronald (6 letters) Wilson (6 letters) Reagan (6 letters) was the AC.

I didn't watch the video, but I thought I'd mention, there is no "Q" sound in Hebrew. Although I am not Hebrew, from what I know, "K" is usually used in the "Q's" place for sound.

[StoneScratcher]

I just started watching the video:

Question: They use Luke 10:18 as Luke quotes what Jesus said.

Luke's chapter was written in GREEK, and although Jesus spoke Aramaic, Luke's words were written in Greek.

And also, the video mentions that the Old Testament was written in Hebrew (correct, of course), but then goes on to say:

"If a Rabbi were to speak these words of Jesus today, he would speak them in Hebrew."

But Luke is in the New Testament (all about Jesus Christ).

Why would what Jesus said be written in Hebrew and then spoken by a Rabbi (as they show pictures of the Torah)?

Edited to add some info:


The oldest written parts of the Bible found were transcribed in three languages. What scholars call the Hebrew Bible (the same books Jews call the Tanakh or Written Torah (http://www.jewfaq.org/torah.htm) and Christians call the Old Testament) was first written in Hebrew with a few chapters of the books of Ezra and Daniel recorded in Aramaic. Hebrew (http://dir.yahoo.com/Social_Science/Linguistics_and_Human_Languages/Languages/Specific_Languages/Hebrew/) had long been the language of the Jewish people, so their scriptures were passed down in Hebrew. Some of the books of the Hebrew Bible may have been written as far back as 1,400 B.C.E., although most of the text (http://gbgm-umc.org/umw/bible/timebce.stm) was probably written between 900 and 400 B.C.E.

Aramaic (http://dir.yahoo.com/Social_Science/Linguistics_and_Human_Languages/Languages/Specific_Languages/Aramaic/) is a Semitic language that was widely spoken from 600 to 200 B.C.E. in the near Middle East. It was one of the common languages of the region until the 13th century, when Arabic became more prominent. Many people believe Jesus and his apostles spoke Aramaic.
The Christian New Testament was written in the first century C.E. in the common Greek of the Mediterranean area and parts of the Middle East at the time. This form of Greek is called Koine Greek (http://greek-language.com/historyofgreek/). It developed from classical Greek spread by the conquests of Alexander the Great. As different people began to use the tongue, it evolved and changed into Koine Greek between 300 B.C.E. and 300 C.E. This form may have been the second language (http://www.hope-of-israel.org/jesgreek.htm) of Jesus and his apostles -- after all, the gospels note that Jesus spoke with Pontius Pilate, who would have been more likely to understand Greek than Aramaic. The New Testament was probably written in Greek because it was the most common language around the Mediterranean at the time.

http://ask.yahoo.com/20030227.html

[StoneScratcher]

Stopped watching this piece of poop video.

Lucifer is not satan. People are ignorant to the fact of what lucifer means. In fact, Jesus is called the morning star, which is, in FACT, lucifer.

Dumb dumb dumb dumb!


:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[LouC]

What I really find interesting is that you mention your earlier posts. Yet this is your first post. So you are a re-tread?

The OP has had several prior threads deleted already for infractions.

[Gabby]

I didn't watch the video, but I thought I'd mention, there is no "Q" sound in Hebrew. Although I am not Hebrew, from what I know, "K" is usually used in the "Q's" place for sound.

Why do you say that there is no Q sound in Hebrew? Look at the Qof in the below alphabet.

http://www.jewfaq.org/alephbet.htm

[Mimiheart]

I didn't watch the video, but I thought I'd mention, there is no "Q" sound in Hebrew. Although I am not Hebrew, from what I know, "K" is usually used in the "Q's" place for sound.There's no "qu". The ק ,qof, is often transliterated as q.

Here's the thing, Barack Obama's name isn't Hebrew in origin. If it were, the last letter would almost have to be a qof, and the meaning lightning. However, his name is an anglicization of a Swahili word, baraka, which means blessing -- it came to Swahili from Arabic. B'racha is a blessing in Hebrew, and the last letter is a chaf, ך, not a qof.

So, Obama's first name means blessing, not lightning, because of the etymology of it, not because of how it's currently spelled in Hebrew.

[Gabby]

There's no "qu". The ק ,qof, is often transliterated as q.
That's wright.. we are talking about similar/equivalent sounds... not the exact same letters.

Here's the thing, Barack Obama's name isn't Hebrew in origin. If it were, the last letter would almost have to be a qof, and the meaning lightning. However, his name is an anglicization of a Swahili word, baraka, which means blessing -- it came to Swahili from Arabic. B'racha is a blessing in Hebrew, and the last letter is a chaf, ך, not a qof.

So, Obama's first name means blessing, not lightning, because of the etymology of it, not because of how it's currently spelled in Hebrew.

You are right about that. I was simply dispelling the sillyness in the video. The entire thing is so misleading that it's laughable.

The parts of the Bible that this come from were not even written in Hebrew.

[Mimiheart]

That's wright.. we are talking about similar/equivalent sounds... not the exact same letters.



You are right about that. I was simply dispelling the sillyness in the video. The entire thing is so misleading that it's laughable.

The parts of the Bible that this come from were not even written in Hebrew.I'm not watching the video, as I don't believe in an Antichrist. I don't see what purpose it would serve. I was just expanding on what you were saying and trying to explain it as a Hebrew teacher.

[snagswolf]

I've been hearing this "[fill in the blank] is the AntiChrist" since the 70s. And I'm sure it was going on long before that.

[StoneScratcher]

I'm not watching the video, as I don't believe in an Antichrist. I don't see what purpose it would serve. I was just expanding on what you were saying and trying to explain it as a Hebrew teacher.

Thanks! Doesn't it also mean "curse" as well as blessing. And also "kneeling"?

[StoneScratcher]

I've been hearing this "[fill in the blank] is the AntiChrist" since the 70s. And I'm sure it was going on long before that.

At that roast (can't remember the name...), Obama did say he wasn't born in a manger. So that's an anti-manger birth. Therefore, one could conclude, Obama is anti-whoever-was-born-in-a-manger.

Obama is the AWWBIAM.

[Gabby]

I'm not watching the video, as I don't believe in an Antichrist. I don't see what purpose it would serve. I was just expanding on what you were saying and trying to explain it as a Hebrew teacher.

The only reason I see for watching the video is to be able to refute the points it makes to those who are not aware of the real misinformation in it.

[Gabby]

For anyone who thinks this video has a point... please read this web page. It explains pretty clearly where the video goes wrong.

http://michaelsheiser.com/PaleoBabble/2009/07/more-pulpit-paleobabble-president-obama-is-the-antichrist-the-bible-tells-us-so/

[Mimiheart]

Thanks! Doesn't it also mean "curse" as well as blessing. And also "kneeling"?
No, it doesn't mean "curse." There's a passage where no one was willing to write that they cursed G-d... so they put they blessed G-d, and everyone understood the meaning of what was said. (I don't remember the details. I know it when I see it because it's so bizarre.) The three-letter root is the same as that for "knee." When Jews pray, they will sometimes bend their knees on baruch, during a bow. There's more to it than that. Not kneeling though. (There's a whole choreography to Jewish prayer.)

[Rurudyne]

I've been hearing this "[fill in the blank] is the AntiChrist" since the 70s. And I'm sure it was going on long before that.
A proud American tradition since the 1770s. ;)

But we got it from the English, Dutch etceteras.

[King Cantona]

A proud American tradition since the 1770s. ;)

But we got it from the English, Dutch etceteras.

Really?...

Well it must have died out over here years before I was born because I only hear of it over there.....

Or maybe in the flat earth society..........:)).............

http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

7/31/2009: Commentary and Video: Did Jesus Give Us The Name Of The Anti Christ???

In many of my early posts I was totally convinced Obama was the Anti Christ...he fit the profile (tongue in cheek). Just sent to me this morning was this Video. I will NOT comment on it but will allow those who view it to make up their own minds. I am stunned after watching this...true or not it makes me uncomfortable for many times my gut feelings prove to be accurate. Seeing what is happening today and then knowing how many questions about Obama are not anserwed, it has become a moment to reflect. As Ripley stated, "Believe it or Not"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXMAnlMmEPw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eoilforimmigration%2Eorg%2F facts%2F%3Fp%3D2723&feature=player_embedded

You were totally convinced that an American President was the anti Christ? Really? You don't read the book of Revelations in the bible very often do you? :rolleyes:

Let's see...Barack Obama wasn't/isn't 'noble' born..he wasn't born and raised in one of the high European homes...didn't come from the 'old established world' of kings...and yet you were absolutely convinced BHO was the anti christ? Wow...it's all I can say..wow.

I could care less what some whack job found within the collection of words within our bible..twisting words up to fit some odd ball idea isn't new....you do know that right? :think:

Tin foil hat fitting to tight? Untwist the top a bit and let your brain air out some....might do you some good. :lol:

~Mysty

[windstar3x3]

Gabby, i too find it chilling that Jesus might well have revealed the anti-Christ. Of course the fanatical devotees are noit about to give up their lock-stepping, kool-aid drinkiing to even consider the gravity of this. Except of course those that do realize it's the truth and revel in it. This might even stir up brain activity in some believed to be brain dead.

I find frothing at the mouth denials sweet to my ears. Anti-Christ or just one of the high preists makes little difference to me.
Does anybody really know who Obama is or nationality ?

[SabercatPuck]

Well aparently National Jewish Democratic Council think that it means lightning and Rahm means Thunder

Barack means Lightning, Rahm means Thunder

Aaron Keyak — November 6, 2008 – 5:49 pm | Israel (http://www.njdc.org/blog/categories/category/israel/) | Democrats (http://www.njdc.org/blog/categories/category/democrats/) | Obama (http://www.njdc.org/blog/categories/category/obama/) Comments (23) (http://www.njdc.org/blog/post/lightningandthunder110608#comments) Add a comment (http://www.njdc.org/blog/post/lightningandthunder110608#commentform)


Remember when it was reported that President-elect Barack Obama had a problem (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/22/us/politics/22jewish.html?_r=1&oref=slogin) with the Jewish vote?
That (http://jta.org/news/article/2008/11/05/1000783/jews-looked-past-worries-to-embrace-obama) is (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/11/loose-ends-ii-o.html) no (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#val=USP00p2) more (http://jta.org/news/article/2008/11/05/1000800/op-ed-why-jews-voted-for-obama). (http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=4caddc86-ef98-4bf1-a4fb-bb3cbc40b9d1)
In one of President-elect Barack Obama's first Presidential decisions since Election Day he selected (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-na-transition7-2008nov07,0,7946178.story) Representative Rahm Emanuel to be his Chief of Staff. We all know that Emanuel has (http://www.njdc.org/blog/post/commendschoiceofemanuel110608) "has a proven commitment to Israel’s security and served as civilian volunteer on an Israeli military base during the Persian Gulf War of 1991." We also know that Emanuel's "aggressive, pragmatic style of politics" (http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/06/Rahmbo_joins_Obamas_team/UPI-90421226001150/) makes him the perfect selection to be Obama's Chief of Staff.
But could have Emanuel's selection had something to do with his first name - Rahm?
In Hebrew, Rahm (רעם)* means "thunder" (http://www.milon.co.il/general/general.php?term=thunder) and Barack (ברק) means "lightning." (http://www.milon.co.il/general/general.php?term=lightning)
"If you are near...lightning you’ll hear thunder as one sharp crack" (http://www.wxdude.com/page5.html)
Thunder & Lightning = Change that can get it done

*Point of clarification: Ra'am- spelled reish, ayin, mem - means thunder, but it depends on how he spells his name. If he spells his name reish, mem, then it may mean something different (like "high, lofty, or loud") - and it looks like he may. (http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3619067,00.html) (Thanks for the heads up Nava!)
http://www.njdc.org/blog/post/lightningandthunder110608

Although I must say it is interesting to me that with a small change in pronunciation it goes from Thunder and Lightning to compationate and blessed

[PeterGriffin]

Falwell et al have always been very clear; the Anti Christ is a male Jew. So i'm thinking Marvin Hamlisch.

[Wookinstien]

Falwell et al have always been very clear; the Anti Christ is a male Jew. So i'm thinking Marvin Hamlisch.

Gee, I would have thought it would be Stephen Spielberg... :)

[smyrna]

We have control of the vertical.


We have control of the horizontal.


:)):shifty::))

[StoneScratcher]

No, it doesn't mean "curse." There's a passage where no one was willing to write that they cursed G-d... so they put they blessed G-d, and everyone understood the meaning of what was said. (I don't remember the details. I know it when I see it because it's so bizarre.) The three-letter root is the same as that for "knee." When Jews pray, they will sometimes bend their knees on baruch, during a bow. There's more to it than that. Not kneeling though. (There's a whole choreography to Jewish prayer.)

I'm going by memory of what I read (so, if you want me to find links or something to confirm it, I'll happily search for it)...so, what I read was that the word bless was used almost sarcastically, in other words, as if, today we'd say: "Yeah, you're a rocket scientist." when they couldn't figure out what 10% off a ticketed price means.

Also, for the kneeling part--that word is used for kneeling (I believe in the Old Testament).

Kneeling was something that camels had to be TAUGHT at an early age. It wasn't something a camel would do voluntarily. To use the word "kneel" for blessed is an interesting concept to think about (when one puts it in context).

Let me know if you want me to find what and where I read these things. I don't want to put stuff up (after looking for it) if someone isn't interested. (I tend to do that at times, lol).

Again, I do not know the Hebrew language, but when I read, Bible, etc, I always like to look at how the words were translated. Since you do know the Hebrew language, I'd welcome the opportunity to be guided (by you) in the right direction!

[King Cantona]

Gabby, i too find it chilling that Jesus might well have revealed the anti-Christ. Of course the fanatical devotees are noit about to give up their lock-stepping, kool-aid drinkiing to even consider the gravity of this. Except of course those that do realize it's the truth and revel in it. This might even stir up brain activity in some believed to be brain dead.

I find frothing at the mouth denials sweet to my ears. Anti-Christ or just one of the high preists makes little difference to me.
Does anybody really know who Obama is or nationality ?

:)):))

I've got to hand it to you, that was hilarious.........:))..........

And by the way, I'm pretty sure (positive) that Obama is American..........

Any chance of your brain stirring up any activity?......

[windstar3x3]

I'm sure your as displeased with my exercising my right to freedom of speech as Obama, King Cantona. You tyrants hang tough together, don't you.
Don't presume I'm Joe the plumber or Sarah Palin, i don't like bullies that threaten, bully, intimidate, i stand up to such ilk/debris.

[windstar3x3]

King Cantona:
Well, after reading this thread's opening two posts I find myself laughing.

yankeedoodled:
As you keep posting you are laughing at others, amybe you want to change your name to King Jester ? You and Obama cosmic twins ?

[King Cantona]

I'm sure your as displeased with my exercising my right to freedom of speech as Obama, King Cantona. You tyrants hang tough together, don't you.
Don't presume I'm Joe the plumber or Sarah Palin, i don't like bullies that threaten, bully, intimidate, i stand up to such ilk/debris.

Have I posted something that gives you the impression that I am displeased with your exercising your right of free speech? And Obama doesn't either, for myself I love you exercising your right to free speech because it's hilarious...

Or are you in your dictatorial way going to try to curb MY right to free speech which I choose to use to ridicule you?....

And I'd be interested to know who's bullying who......

[King Cantona]

yankeedoodled:
As you keep posting you are laughing at others, amybe you want to change your name to King Jester ? You and Obama cosmic twins ?

Well if you were to stop posting the kind of material that comes pretty close to comedy genius then I wouldn't be laughing would I? Maybe (doubt it) I would take you seriously......

[windstar3x3]

Coming from the kingdom of the neutered dhimmi Lion, its good you haven't lost your sense of humor.

[jeepers]

Gee, I would have thought it would be Stephen Spielberg... :)


I"ve always been partial to Sam Neill

http://images.themoviedb.org/backdrops/34700/omen3-fanart_poster.jpg

He was pretty creepy as a kid

;)

http://www.joblo.com/images_arrownews/devil_damian.jpg

[OldSchoolConservative]

The problem I have with these theories is that they take away from the actual context and purposes of the scriptures. Luke 10:18 was part of the passage that dealt with Jesus talking to the seventy that he had commissioned to preach the Kingdom of God that had returned victorious. How that would relate to Jesus possibly naming an antichrist befuddles me. As much as I disagree with Obamas policies I seriously 100 percent doubt that he would be the antichrist. Obama is very charasmatic but the antichrist will be ultra charasmatic. Again, I disagree with most of Obamas policies but I think it is very unfair and frankly unkind for someone to imply or make the impression using some sort of formulas in the scriptures that he is the antichrist.

I don't mean to sound too religious here(I am an old fashioned Bible believer fundamentalist) but I don't think God ever intended for his Holy word to be some sort of reference for encoded messages or encrypted messages. At one time I was admitally fascinated by that sort of material but I now firmly believe that God meant for his word to be read for what it is at face value. To not read God's word at face value but to try to decipher ecrypted type material is to distract from the actual message of the Word.

[Clintville]

Or maybe in the flat earth society..........:)).............

http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm (http://www.alaska.net/%7Eclund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm)
You know that website is a joke, right? Not that there aren't people out there who believe that stuff.

[Gabby]

Gabby, i too find it chilling that Jesus might well have revealed the anti-Christ. Of course the fanatical devotees are noit about to give up their lock-stepping, kool-aid drinkiing to even consider the gravity of this. Except of course those that do realize it's the truth and revel in it. This might even stir up brain activity in some believed to be brain dead.

I find frothing at the mouth denials sweet to my ears. Anti-Christ or just one of the high preists makes little difference to me.
Does anybody really know who Obama is or nationality ?
I have no idea where you got the idea that I "find it chilling that Jesus might well have revealed the anti-Christ."

My posts have been clear, your opening post on this thread is a bunch of nonsense. I have others have shown that it's based on a lot of misconceptions and misunderstandings. Spreading this trash is very wrong.

Than here you come saying that anyone who does not fall in behind your nonsense is brain dead? Get over yourself. And please stop spreading just tripe.

[DRS]

I find it funny both sides in this debate using the bible to try and prove Obama is some how biblical in a good way or bad way

Saw this one yeterday

Judges 4:6*And she proceeded to send and call Ba′rak the son of A‧bin′o‧am out of Ke′desh-naph′ta‧li and to say to him: “Has not Jehovah the God of Israel given the command? ‘Go and you must spread yourself out on Mount Ta′bor, and you must take with you ten thousand men out of the sons of Naph′ta‧li and out of the sons of Zeb′u‧lun. 7*And I shall certainly draw to you at the torrent valley of Ki′shon Sis′e‧ra the chief of Ja′bin’s army and his war chariots and his crowd, and I shall indeed give him into your hand.’”

[Stuball]

7/31/2009: Commentary and Video: Did Jesus Give Us The Name Of The Anti Christ???

In many of my early posts I was totally convinced Obama was the Anti Christ...he fit the profile (tongue in cheek). Just sent to me this morning was this Video. I will NOT comment on it but will allow those who view it to make up their own minds. I am stunned after watching this...true or not it makes me uncomfortable for many times my gut feelings prove to be accurate. Seeing what is happening today and then knowing how many questions about Obama are not anserwed, it has become a moment to reflect. As Ripley stated, "Believe it or Not"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXMAnlMmEPw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eoilforimmigration%2Eorg%2F facts%2F%3Fp%3D2723&feature=player_embedded
I started laughing as soon as I read the part on the bottom that says 'A Jewish Rabbi":))

[Old_Mil]

7/31/2009: Commentary and Video: Did Jesus Give Us The Name Of The Anti Christ???

In many of my early posts I was totally convinced Obama was the Anti Christ...he fit the profile (tongue in cheek). Just sent to me this morning was this Video. I will NOT comment on it but will allow those who view it to make up their own minds. I am stunned after watching this...true or not it makes me uncomfortable for many times my gut feelings prove to be accurate. Seeing what is happening today and then knowing how many questions about Obama are not anserwed, it has become a moment to reflect. As Ripley stated, "Believe it or Not"...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXMAnlMmEPw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eoilforimmigration%2Eorg%2F facts%2F%3Fp%3D2723&feature=player_embedded

Wow. I'm going to keep an open mind on this to see what the next 8 years holds. Certainly, if it isn't the case, it's one heck of a coincidence.

[Old_Mil]

I don't mean to sound too religious here(I am an old fashioned Bible believer fundamentalist) but I don't think God ever intended for his Holy word to be some sort of reference for encoded messages or encrypted messages.

I agree with you on the bit about encoded messages. However, this wouldn't take any sort of an encoded message - only a mistake in which what was originally intended to be transcribed as a name was translated as its meaning...

...if correct, the assumptions for the future are tremendous. There will be an unsuccessful attempt on his life. There will be a short term peace treaty in the middle east. Closer to home, there will be no pretribulation rapture and persecution and the death penalty for belief are right around the corner.

[Gabby]

I find it funny both sides in this debate using the bible to try and prove Obama is some how biblical in a good way or bad way

Saw this one yeterday

Judges 4:6*And she proceeded to send and call Ba′rak the son of A‧bin′o‧am out of Ke′desh-naph′ta‧li and to say to him: “Has not Jehovah the God of Israel given the command? ‘Go and you must spread yourself out on Mount Ta′bor, and you must take with you ten thousand men out of the sons of Naph′ta‧li and out of the sons of Zeb′u‧lun. 7*And I shall certainly draw to you at the torrent valley of Ki′shon Sis′e‧ra the chief of Ja′bin’s army and his war chariots and his crowd, and I shall indeed give him into your hand.’”

Saying any of this refers to the current president is rediculous. People are given biblical names all the time, even when the parents are not trying to use the biblical connection at the time of naming a child.

I have a son named Joseph. Does this mean that the Bible predicted that he will father a comming messiah? Hardly... it only means that he was named after his grand uncle.

[notluzn]

Who cares, no one wants Obama except sheeple

[OldSchoolConservative]

I agree with you on the bit about encoded messages. However, this wouldn't take any sort of an encoded message - only a mistake in which what was originally intended to be transcribed as a name was translated as its meaning...

...if correct, the assumptions for the future are tremendous. There will be an unsuccessful attempt on his life. There will be a short term peace treaty in the middle east. Closer to home, there will be no pretribulation rapture and persecution and the death penalty for belief are right around the corner.

But why would Jesus talk about Obama when he was talking about Satan? The whole passage was how Jesus was expounding to the seventy how to rejoice most in their names being written in the Lambs of Life aside from them having power over Satan. Why would the Lord in the middle of explaining this concept all of a sudden change the subject totally and try to name the antichrist in mid conversation? There is no question that God's Holy Word is full of prophecies and endtime prophecies. But the key is that these prophecies are for all to read in black and white at face value in the actual reading of the actual scriptures.

[SSP13]

not only Luke 10:18 but Daniel 8:23 must also be considered.
He will understand dark sentences, check out "Yes We Can" backwards on YouTube
Stanley Armour Dunham has Irish roots that go back to the tribe of Dan
Hillary handing out Phoenix lapel pins, Laura Bush Phoenix in the background of
Christmas card pics


Obama was born half-British
Article II was put in so that no-one British or even half-British ever becomes Prez
Kissinger saying Obama is here to lead us into the New World Order
Obama meeting the Bilderburgs three days before the election