Should Washington DC Elites Be Forced Into ObamaCare If U.S. Citizens Are?

[Stars&Stripes]

Should they?

Businesses have to make a profit in order to operate. Gov't doesn't. Gov't can tax, change the rules, print money, do whatever, to fund ObamaCare and put insurance companies out of business.... Many, many businesses will find that it's cheaper to pay the tax and let their employees have no other choice but to go on ObamaCare. Like in Massachusetts, many citizens could afford private health care but dropped it nonetheless and enrolled in their gov't-subsidized health care plan, leading it to the brink of disaster where it is now.

Yet, when millions of Americans find themselves stuck in ObamaCare, will Congressional leaders - who will vote this in - enroll in ObamaCare?

No way. Never.

They will stick us with this crap, and just like all elitists, they will make sure that they get quick acess to health care while millions of Americans get stuck in long waiting lines and long waiting periods to see a doctor.

Funny how the DC elitists have not stepped forward to say that they will enroll themselves and their families in whatever form ObamaCare takes.

That ought to tell you something.

[Stars&Stripes]

If our glorious leaders won't enroll in it, yet they say it will be so glorious and dandy, should we believe them that ObamCare will be all that they make it out to be?

[Once a Marine]

If Mr.Obama gets his way, you can kiss your freedom goodby.I guess the Military and there families will be getting Obama care Too.I can see in the future our Military turning on our Corrupt Government.[They are breaking our US Constitution}.

[Once a Marine]

I know if I get Terminally Ill under Obama care.What do I have to lose.

[StemcellFajita]

Well, no, since they're rich. The health care reform is for people who can't afford to pay for their insurance.

[Stars&Stripes]

If Mr.Obama gets his way, you can kiss your freedom goodby.I guess the Military and there families will be getting Obama care Too.I can see in the future our Military turning on our Corrupt Government.[They are breaking our US Constitution}.

Several newspapers across the US (and for a long time at that) have talked about the pitfalls of gov't-run, military health care. That is what ObamCare will be like.

Remember the news articles about the main health care hospital for seriously injured military personnel, and how run down and ill-equipped it was? That is what ObamCare will be like.

Yet the DC elites, rich fat cats in the media, the hollwood crowd, union reps, corporate execs, and all of their buddies will alwys make sure that they get the best of health care.

And Americans are still letting these DC elites people cram this down their throats.

The Gov't now owns a near majority of the housing market, the banking system, an auto company (for all intents and purposes) where Gov't elites can dictate what kind of cars they roll out, with some tax-payer funded rebate subsides to help fund the car company.

Now they want to run health care, too.

[SFC(R)L]

they should be required to receive all outpatient care from a VA hospital for 6 months prior to voting on this plan

[Manager]

I think we all know that we cannot kid ourselves one bit. These elitist will never be like the common man with all their golden parachutes where ever they turn. If they some how find out that down the road a prachute is not there, they will surely make up a bill and vote yes so they won't be like us.

They all live in a vacuum of their own world and has nothing to do with the real world that you and I live in...

[Stars&Stripes]

Well, no, since they're rich. The health care reform is for people who can't afford to pay for their insurance.

No, it's about control. It's not "reform," it's control.

The gov't now controls a near majority of the banking system, a near majority of the housing market, a car company for all intents and purposes, and now you see in the news DC elites demonizing the health care industry like they have demonized other corporations in an effort to try and get ObamaCare passed so they can eventualy control health care.

Look at Walter Reed. That is gov't-subsidized health care, and is what Americans will end up with. Medicare has been run into the ground just like Walter Reed.

And when we get crappy health care, the elites will still be riding high and living like kings and queens and having access to their health care (that they will make sure that they still get come hell or high water).

Wake up!

They have shown that they don't want to enroll in ObamaCare, but they are willing to stick us with it. That ought to tell you that they are lying when they say that ObamaCare will be so wonderful.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

I voted yes, but I will add this caveat...that IF in "...if US Citizens Are" better be capitalized, bolded and underlined.

Because I don't think we're ever GOING to be FORCED into anything like that.

[Stars&Stripes]

they should be required to receive all outpatient care from a VA hospital for 6 months prior to voting on this plan

Remember Walter Reed (gov't-run health care) and what it was shown to be like? It was like that for a loooong time.

That is what you get with gov't subsidized health care.

[rodeo]

There is no way we should be forced to accept this socialized medicine crap unless the eliteist idiots accept exactly the same program we end up accepting.

Perhaps Mr. Dodd should call someone in Canada, since he's planning to get treatment for his newly discovered cancer within the next couple of weeks, and find out how long it would take him to get that same treatment under the Canadian system.

[simssk]

Well, no, since they're rich. The health care reform is for people who can't afford to pay for their insurance.
That would be nice if that were true.

Even those who are not rich but have a job but then change that job...

boom... you are now covered by the gov. insurance plan.

How nice.. how fair... and you're not even poor.

AND I thought the libs were all for everyone is equal. I guess since the congressmen/women are considered "rich" , they are not as equal as us?

[simssk]

ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY YES.

Can I make that any clearer?

They are writing the legislation. If it is good enough for us, it dam well better be good enough for them.

[Stars&Stripes]

There is no way we should be forced to accept this socialized medicine crap unless the eliteist idiots accept exactly the same program we end up accepting.

Perhaps Mr. Dodd should call someone in Canada, since he's planning to get treatment for his newly discovered cancer within the next couple of weeks, and find out how long it would take him to get that same treatment under the Canadian system.

If our elected reps have to run on the promise that they will enroll themselves (and maybe their families) in whatever gov't subsidized care that they vote for us, they will drop this gov't-subsidized health care crap.

Especially if those they have to run against run on the promise that they will enroll in it.

[Stars&Stripes]

That would be nice if that were true.

Even those who are not rich but have a job but then change that job...

boom... you are now covered by the gov. insurance plan.

How nice.. how fair... and you're not even poor.

AND I thought the libs were all for everyone is equal. I guess since the congressmen/women are considered "rich" , they are not as equal as us?

The elitists in DC, Hollywood, the media big wigs, union reps and so on, will make sure that they get quick access to quality health care while the rest of us get crappy care and long waiting periods.

[StemcellFajita]

No, it's about control. It's not "reform," it's control.

I know that's what your GOP masters command you the believe, but that statement is crazy.

boom... you are now covered by the gov. insurance plan.

Huh? BlueCross BlueShield isn't going anywhere :).

[Stars&Stripes]

I know that's what your GOP masters command you the believe, but that statement is crazy.

LOL. BTW...There's a mother ship waiting above for you and Farrakhan. LOL.

Get a clue. Employers who provide health care to their employess, may, under ObamaCare, opt to pay the tax each year instead of continuing to provide part of the cost for health care coverage for their employees. The employees then get to pay out of pocket for health care, or - what big government wants - will have to enroll in Obamacare or pay a fine each year for not having health care.

And, you lose your job, you get to sign up for ObamaCare. Wow. What fun.

Huh? BlueCross BlueShield isn't going anywhere :).

Gov't can change the rules, print money, tax, do whatever it takes to give gov't care the edge over private health care companies, because the gov't doesn't have to make a profit to stay in business - businesses do.

Again, get a clue.

[jimjames418]

One for all and all for one. The only way to fly. :rolleyes:

[hatman]

I voted yes, but I will add this caveat...that IF in "...if US Citizens Are" better be capitalized, bolded and underlined.

Because I don't think we're ever GOING to be FORCED into anything like that.

I voted yes for exactly the same reason.

[Old_Mil]

I know if I get Terminally Ill under Obama care.What do I have to lose.

Your life.

[Penny in WV]

I know that's what your GOP masters command you the believe, but that statement is crazy.



Huh? BlueCross BlueShield isn't going anywhere :).

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No, it is about control. If it wasn't then they would be listening to the American people instead of changing the rules to get what THEY want us to have. Here's what the dems plan to do if they don't have enough votes to pass this BS...

Aug. 3 (Bloomberg) -- Senate Democrats will consider approving a U.S. health-care overhaul without Republican support if some opposition lawmakers don’t agree to a plan by mid-September, Senator Charles Schumer said.

Schumer said Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus set a Sept. 15 deadline for getting a bipartisan agreement among six senators on the panel who are negotiating a deal.

“If we cannot produce a bipartisan solution by then, you have to wonder if the Republicans would ever be willing to agree to anything,” Schumer, a New York Democrat, told reporters on a conference call. “We will enact health-care reform by the end of the year. If the Republicans are not able to produce an agreement, we will have contingencies in play.”

Schumer said Democrats may invoke the practice of “reconciliation,” which requires only 51votes for Senate passage. The Democrats control 60 votes, enough to quash a Republican filibuster. Yet party leaders can’t rely on all 60 because of the illnesses of two senators, Edward Kennedy of Massachusetts and Robert Byrd of West Virginia.

“That is clearly one of the contingencies on the table,” Schumer, a member of the finance panel, said of reconciliation.



Link:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a8.VSZBEW6ng

Talk about corruption in its finest form...if they do this they can kiss their power grab goodbye because they will lose so many voters it won't be funny.

[ChaosControl]

Yes. It is idiotic they get a fancy nice health care and retirement plan on the taxpayer's dime then expect us to settle for this ****.

Freaking hypocritical scumbags.

[Mike88]

Well, no, since they're rich. The health care reform is for people who can't afford to pay for their insurance.

What flavor is the koolaid today?

[Stars&Stripes]

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No, it is about control. If it wasn't then they would be listening to the American people instead of changing the rules to get what THEY want us to have. Here's what the dems plan to do if they don't have enough votes to pass this BS...



Link:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a8.VSZBEW6ng

Talk about corruption in its finest form...if they do this they can kiss their power grab goodbye because they will lose so many voters it won't be funny.

Wasn't is scumbag Schumer, his buddies and one or two RINOS that said that it was unconstitutional to invoke the "nuclear option" back in 2005? ...which seems to be what what Chuck E Cheese Schumer is apparently considering?

[Stars&Stripes]

Yes. It is idiotic they get a fancy nice health care and retirement plan on the taxpayer's dime then expect us to settle for this ****.

Freaking hypocritical scumbags.

Elitists doing what elitists do. Hypocritical scumbags indeed.