When will the madness stop?

[TexasForever]

While watching Fox News today, I heard that Obama and his bunch want all school books altered to match their political correctness agenda. The Founding Fathers are to be called The Founders (many women provided invaluable and selfless service to the nation during the Revolution, but I can't remember seeing any in the Continental Congress); caveman or cavewoman will become caveperson; and on, and on, and on. At first I thought that I might have changed the channel to Comedy Central, that there was no possible way that our country could let political correctness get this out of control. Unfortunately it is true. If people get their feelings hurt just because someone or something is addressed by its gender, then they need to drop out of society and assume the fetal position.
In the middle of a recession, out of control government spending, and Obama's attempt to change our traditions and system of government and economy, it used to surprise me when Obama would come up with another ignorant plan. It doesn't surprise me anymore, since the only thing Obama is good at is coming up with crazy, cost prohibitive agendas. I guess he is too ignorant to understand that changing textbooks will cost large amounts of money and time, when school systems don't even have enough money to buy new textbooks. Once again he is trying to erase our national identity. I just hope the American people will stand up and defend all of our time tested and proven traditions and values.

[Daronel]

First of all - source?

Secondly - do you find "The Founders" offensive? I don't really see a problem with being inclusive in this case... same thing with caveman, really.

I still have to see the link, but I somewhat doubt that people will just start throwing out the old books and printing special new copies any more than they ALREADY DO. Books change rather often, both little and big things - including wording (racial wording, common phrases, new research, etc)

And, lastly - is making everything 'male' a very important time-tested tradition? I think P.C. can go WAYYYY too far, and often does - but nothing you mentioned here really matters, IMHO.

[smyrna]

First of all - source?

Secondly - do you find "The Founders" offensive? I don't really see a problem with being inclusive in this case... same thing with caveman, really.

I still have to see the link, but I somewhat doubt that people will just start throwing out the old books and printing special new copies any more than they ALREADY DO. Books change rather often, both little and big things - including wording (racial wording, common phrases, new research, etc)

And, lastly - is making everything 'male' a very important time-tested tradition? I think P.C. can go WAYYYY too far, and often does - but nothing you mentioned here really matters, IMHO.

I would agree with your sentiment completely. There are more important things to concern us than this. What has me going though, is that this is what our politicians are concerned with. Our country in desperate need of cooperation from both parties, to fix our ills and this is where they spend time? :rolleyes:

The second thing is; the term "founding fathers", was a special honor given to the signers of the declaration, formed the constitution, bill of rights and got the country started off. The probability of having a Thomas Jefferson or a Ben Franklin, much less at the same time is astronomical. I always thought that title was descriptive, appropriate and honorable. I won't argue about caveperson though...but GEICO might.:mrgreen:

[Fitz]

Implementation is everything.

If they are forcing schools to start replacing books over it, of course that's moronic.

If they're just requiring future purchases to comply, I don't see a problem.

[jimjames418]

It seems that most people do not understand what a textbook is, and what it does.

A textbook must be consistent for K to 12, and subject to subject. When a textbook series is changed it is from top to bottom K-12. And as an estimate you can say that it will cost between $1,500 and $3,500 per student to change. :surprised

[sgdp]

A relative of mine is studying mental health counseling. Almost all of her classes focus on sensitivity. A big thing is changing "man" to "person," "blind person" to "person who is blind."

"Labels are for jars, not for people!"

It doesn't really bother me. It's just a sign of the times. I don't think it's a political agenda, either. It's just like we've decided "gay" doesn't mean "happy," and "groovy" is only for potheads.

We also don't say "thou" anymore.

[Fitz]

A relative of mine is studying mental health counseling. Almost all of her classes focus on sensitivity. A big thing is changing "man" to "person," "blind person" to "person who is blind."
Extra syllables make me sad :(

[sgdp]

Extra syllables make me sad :(

Annoying in AP style. :eek:

[angelicmadrigal]

I would find it far simplier if English would switch to the gender neutral pronoun of ****. It combines She, He, and it into one word.

I was never personally bothered by the whole defaulting to the male pronoun. It's far better than having to type out she/he his/hers him/her. I'm a woman and I don't feel excluded by it.


There is also the use of the word "one" as a gender neutral pronoun but honestly who uses it?

[psyko kat]

I have always spoke my mind, I don't 'candy coat' my opinions--
I say what I see, and if the people around me don't like it-- too bad...

[supreme_war_Pig]

I would agree with your sentiment completely. There are more important things to concern us than this. What has me going though, is that this is what our politicians are concerned with. Our country in desperate need of cooperation from both parties, to fix our ills and this is where they spend time? :rolleyes:

The second thing is; the term "founding fathers", was a special honor given to the signers of the declaration, formed the constitution, bill of rights and got the country started off. The probability of having a Thomas Jefferson or a Ben Franklin, much less at the same time is astronomical. I always thought that title was descriptive, appropriate and honorable. I won't argue about caveperson though...but GEICO might.:mrgreen:

Interesting. I was thinking about this this morning, and I was wondering if the "Founders" were considered to be just the signers of the Declaration, or if it stretched to the Constitution as well.

[supreme_war_Pig]

Extra syllables make me sad :(

:)) Well done.

[AutoRacer55]

Extra syllables make me sad :(

World War I: Shell Shock (2 syllables)
World War II: Battle Fatigue (4 syllables)
Korean War: Operational Exhaustion (8 syllables)
Vietnam War: Post-Traumatic Stress DIsorder (8 syllables still, but with a hyphen!)