Other than the US, what country would you consider moving to.

[LibertarianDude]

Other than the US, what country would you consider moving to. And why?

Tell us why you like that other country so much.

[NascarGirl2448]

If I had a choice, I would probably choose Ireland. Its beautiful over there.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Other than the US, what country would you consider moving to. And why?

Tell us why you like that other country so much.

England. My daughter lived there for a time a few years back. The photos she emailed were breath-taking.

[2Parties1GlobalistGoal]

There are a number of countries I'd consider moving to. Too many to list.

[ChaosControl]

Ireland or Switzerland.

[AutoRacer55]

Switzerland, but only after I've gotten a job secured first =P

[sgdp]

Scotland. Home of my ancestors.

[Fire Watch]

New Zealand, Australia, Israel.

[Samm]

Didn't we just do this last winter? :eh:

I said New Zealand and Ireland the last time, but Ireland has ****ed it up so badly in the last few months that that leaves New Zealand... with vacations in Fiji.

[King Cantona]

If I had a choice, I would probably choose Ireland. Its beautiful over there.

You're right of course, it IS beautiful but it's very expensive.....

[Residential Bob]

England. My wife's family lives there.

[JenyEliza]

Ireland (have ability to obtain Irish passport due to parentage/ancestry), then Australia.

Believe it or not, I suspect I would prefer Aussieland even though Ireland is the land of my ancestry.

Ireland is very very expensive, not to mention cold damp and dreary more often than not. I have SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) and need sunshine to function properly. Not sure Ireland would offer enough sunshine to sustain me--especially in winter.

On the other hand, Australia gets more than its fair share of sunshine and I suspect I would do quite well there--even in winter. :mrgreen:

[sgtmac_46]

Other than the US, what country would you consider moving to. And why?

Tell us why you like that other country so much.

Texas.

[Vaard]

belize.......

[Buffalo]

Probably Europe somewhere, but I'd really love to live in Coastal Central America or South America. Grenada would work pretty well too, as my Sis in Law has extended family all around there. They treat my brother like a king when they visit. Wouldn't rule out pacific islands either.

[super cool ski instructor]

Either the Dominican Republic or the Bahamas.

[sgtmac_46]

If this United States thing falls through, i'm going to start my own country.

[sironin]

Sri Lanka.

It's a beautiful island country. They speak English. Their economy (and accompanying amenities) are modern. And really, if it's good enough for Sir Arthur C. Clarke, it's good enough for me. :)

[IndyBec]

I am a Texan living in Switzerland. It is very beautiful and a nice place to live. I've met many foreigner and they all have varying opinions. A single Brazilian man was relieved when he was moving back home, he found Zurich city life too boring. A woman moving back to North Dakota was afraid they would find it too boring after living in Zurich. I found that amusing.

I think I prefer Swiss life to French. France seems to be more warm and social, with more of a village square, music and mingling feeling in old town centers. The Swiss seem to be very focused on hard work and life quality in all aspects. Since we already have a network of friends and a large family ourselves, I don't feel the social difference too much.

Foreigners to new countries typically struggle not just with the language, but major cultural differences which may not be obvious. Germany, Switzerland, France and Italy are close but they are each different culturally speaking. So I believe I would have to live in a country first before deciding to stay there permanently.

[IndyBec]

Switzerland, but only after I've gotten a job secured first =P

Bad news: Typically foreigners are given jobs in Switzerland only if their is a demonstrated lack of local candidates.

Good news: If you do get a job here, it's likely it will pay much more than you would expect because of greater demand. Our Swiss job pays roughly double, if not more.

[Samm]

If this United States thing falls through, i'm going to start my own country.

In such a case, I already have one... ;)

[DRS]

Scotland. Home of my ancestors.

Where a man can wear a skirt call it a kilt and no one questions his manliness :D

[sgdp]

Where a man can wear a skirt call it a kilt and no one questions his manliness :D

You must not remember that I'm attracted to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hMrY8jysdg&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYv4EUV_dD0&feature=related

I jest. I jest. Tim Curry and Freddie Mercury in drag. I mean. It's hilarious.

[DRS]

You must not remember that I'm attracted to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hMrY8jysdg&feature=channel_page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYv4EUV_dD0&feature=related

I jest. I jest. Tim Curry and Freddie Mercury in drag. I mean. It's hilarious.

It is a Canadian way of life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NubcKsQTuNQ&feature=related

[BrittleBullet]

Zacatecas, Mexico.

[sgdp]

It is a Canadian way of life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NubcKsQTuNQ&feature=related

Ohhhh. :)) Nice!

But nobody can beat the Pythons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwTqC2T6q4E


Though, Eric Idle was always the best looking in drag.

[DRS]

Ohhhh. :)) Nice!

But nobody can beat the Pythons.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwTqC2T6q4E


Though, Eric Idle was always the best looking in drag.

Are you saying that English men are better looking in a dress then we Canadian men are?

Thems fightin words.

[sgdp]

Are you saying that English men are better looking in a dress then we Canadian men are?

Thems fightin words.

Funnier at any rate. ;) I think it's the accent. So, don't feel so bad. You can't help your accent. :hug:

[DRS]

Okay I can take the accent thing

[MrShotShot]

The Vatican.

[dave rogers]

Other than the US, what country would you consider moving to. And why?

Tell us why you like that other country so much.
Israel. They are a great people that enjoy a quality of life that is respectable and honorable. They are heros to me in an ugly world. God bless them for all they do to protect themselves from the blood thirsty dog pukes that are constantly scheming against them. The Israeli people are truly a great and noble people that have earned the respect of honorable people everywhere.

[BillBrown]

Other than the US, what country would you consider moving to. And why?

Tell us why you like that other country so much.

Ethiopia.
I've been wanting to move there since the 1980s.

I was sold on it when I saw the ads on TV- "$10 will feed a starving child for a month". I knew it was the place for me.

I had two kids and was spending over $300 a month on groceries.

[Spiked101]

Australia or New Zealand.

[TexasForever]

Israel, because the Jews are God's chosen people and they don't mess around with terrorists and other lawbreakers. If you are going to fight a war, fight to win. I would give my life in defense of Israel, and would never fight against them.

[DLaw911]

The Netherlands. I have family there and visit occasionally. Nice place to live and easy hops to nearby countries for vacations.

[simssk]

Australia - especially Perth or New Zealand.

[Hereintheusa]

Israel, because the Jews are God's chosen people and they don't mess around with terrorists and other lawbreakers. If you are going to fight a war, fight to win. I would give my life in defense of Israel, and would never fight against them.

You realize Israel has universal health care.

[Samm]

Australia - especially Perth or New Zealand.

Contrary to popular belief, New Zealand is not a city in Australia. :razz:

[CHUG]

Ireland (have ability to obtain Irish passport due to parentage/ancestry), then Australia.

Believe it or not, I suspect I would prefer Aussieland even though Ireland is the land of my ancestry.

Ireland is very very expensive, not to mention cold damp and dreary more often than not. I have SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) and need sunshine to function properly. Not sure Ireland would offer enough sunshine to sustain me--especially in winter.

On the other hand, Australia gets more than its fair share of sunshine and I suspect I would do quite well there--even in winter. :mrgreen:

Australia does also have more than its fair share of poisonous creatures. At least in Ireland you can go to the loo without the risk of some bloody great creepy-crawly biting your arse.http://www.escouts.org.uk/forum/images/smilies/bigsmiley.gif

[CHUG]

Australia - especially Perth or New Zealand.

Bit of advice. Never go to New Zealand, after that post you'll be a marked man. They'll send the All-Blacks round to haka all over your arse.:mrgreen:

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

Luxembourg

[CHUG]

Luxembourg

Why Luxembourg?

[Samm]

Australia does also have more than its fair share of poisonous creatures. At least in Ireland you can go to the loo without the risk of some bloody great creepy-crawly biting your arse.http://www.escouts.org.uk/forum/images/smilies/bigsmiley.gif

It seems like damn near everything that moves in Australia is poisonous. On the other hand, the most "dangerous" critter in New Zealand is those little sand flies... so small they can wriggle through mosquito netting, but with a bite that can raise a welt and itches like hell. Second would be feral pigs, but they are not nearly as frequently encountered than the biting flies (I spent weeks in the back country in their area and never saw one.) Third (not a critter) would be hook grass... pulls the hair right out of your legs. :neutral:

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

Why Luxembourg?

I just googled the richest countries in the world.

[CHUG]

I just googled the richest countries in the world.


A man with principles.:)

[PhantomPholly]

New Zealand is about the only remaining free country, owing principally to the fact that no one has bother to confiscate them.

[Yasuo]

Israel; Spiritual Fatherland.

Greece; Lots of history, religious and secular, to experience.

England; Mom's folks come from Wales.
Norway; Dad's folks come from an island off the coast.

Scotland; Dad's ancestors invaded and settled in the Highlands, especially the islands. Be interesting to see, up close and personal, how my ancestors' cultures merged.

Japan; Spooky and fascinating. More I study about it, the more I want to see it for real.

[Samm]

New Zealand is about the only remaining free country, owing principally to the fact that no one has bother to confiscate them.

Confiscate what? :eh:

[CHUG]

England; Mom's folks come from Wales.


Oh dear, someones going to get a nasty visit from the Tafia for that comment.:lol:

[sgdp]

Oh dear, someones going to get a nasty visit from the Tafia for that comment.:lol:

Oh, stop you..


You and your....your...Britishness.

[GA_LP]

In order:

1) Deutschland - ancestral home
2) Denmark - close enough to 1.
3) Venezuela - why not?

ETA: I can't believe I put that for #3. Thanks KC - thinking Uruguay, typed Venezuela. Time for more coffee.

[smyrna]

The Bahama's. Can I have my own island please?:mrgreen:

[GA_LP]

The Bahama's. Can I have my own island please?:mrgreen:
But, but, but the ocean's are rising 13 feet a year - you'll drown!

Seriously, we went to the Bahamas for our Senior trip after graduation - it was fabulous.

[King Cantona]

3) Venezuela - why not?

Why not?...

Hugo Chavez?.....

[GA_LP]

Why not?...

Hugo Chavez?.....:eek: :think: Sorry, meant Uruguay ... will get more coffee now. :lol:
(see edit of OP)

[Samm]

:eek: :think: Sorry, meant Uruguay ... will get more coffee now. :lol:
(see edit of OP)

Uruguay? :eek: Why on Earth Uruguay? :eh:

[CHUG]

Oh, stop you..


You and your....your...Britishness.

:)):))

[5thIDSoldier]

Tonga - lovely little island with friendly people where life is simple.

[twinheart]

Ireland
Rome

Ireland - I have dual citizenship in Ireland, and have been many times - it is absolutely beautiful there, and the people are truly amazing

Rome - I have never been, but the history and the beauty of it is something I think I could surround myself with -

with that said - there is no other place in the world that I would want to live other than the USA -

[Apatriot]

Other than the US, what country would you consider moving to. And why?

Tell us why you like that other country so much.


If I had to work, I'd choose Belize or Canada, as they are both fairly stable English speaking countries with reasonably good internet connections. I'd probably choose Belize for the weather. I'd rather live in the tropics than in a snow zone.

If working wasn't needed, I'd live on a series of cruise ships, and travel the world.

[Kelzan]

England, Scotland, Australia.
I would have said Ireland until they passed that blasphemy law.

[Army Wife]

Luxembourg

It is a beautiful country to be sure, we LOVE what we saw of it back in 2000. It was one of the places I wanted to see on our last PCS to Germany.

If I had to choose (not for government, beanies,etc) it would be either Germany or England. With England coming out on top.

[Alaric]

Italy. In particular, one of the northern autonomous regions.

The country is breathtakingly spectacular.
I can speak well enough to survive.
I'm quite familiar with the area (travel there 2-3 times a year)
The economy doesn't suck as bad as the rest of Italy.
The food sucks though - ;)

I lived in Korea for a while. While I loved being there and I can speak the language well, I wouldn't take my family there, or anywhere else in the orient for that matter.

[CID_0687]

Scotland, Ireland, or Germany.

[RickRhetoric]

Somalia.

Warm climate, no income tax, no seat belts, no catalytic converters, no driver's license, no license's of any kind. No going green, no recycling, no rules, no regulations, no restrictions, -- no government at all. Total anarchy -- do as you please. Kind of like deep south Texas, but even better. :))

[PhantomPholly]

Confiscate what? :eh:

40 million sheep, and some of the most beautiful landscapes on earth.

[Vaard]

trinidad.......

[Samm]

40 million sheep, and some of the most beautiful landscapes on earth.

I'm sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense in context with your earlier statement.

New Zealand is about the only remaining free country, owing principally to the fact that no one has bother to confiscate them.

What does not confiscating sheep have to do with remaining a free country? :eh:

But I agree about the landscapes... I have spent over four months in NZ and have set foot on nearly every area of the country except the far tips of the east and west coasts of N. Island.

[Samm]

Australia does also have more than its fair share of poisonous creatures. At least in Ireland you can go to the loo without the risk of some bloody great creepy-crawly biting your arse.http://www.escouts.org.uk/forum/images/smilies/bigsmiley.gif

God bless St. Patrick. ;)

[Ninjacorpse]

I do not know anymore, the older I get the more I realize I would not want to live anywhere else, not another county, state, country or continent.

[Foxtrot]

I wanna travel, but would never live or settle down anywhere else.

2 coastlines, so many climates / terrains, beautiful geography, natural resources, rich history, the highest diversity in the world, we educate every citizen, the best medicine around, security, a solid constitution, history's greatest military, the birthplace of most modern tech advances, freedom of speech, freedom to worship, free elections, the most culturally influential, the strongest trade...

why live anywhere else? I'm telling you, this is the Promised Land.

[DemonicK9]

I think China would be a great place to live.

I could start a business manufacturing stuff & only pay the workers 50 cents a day while marking up my exports by 700%. I'd be rich in no time.

[mobiusptc]

Japan

Cayman

Saint Martin and the other French west indies

France

Australia

[PhantomPholly]

I'm sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense in context with your earlier statement.

You asked what someone would be able to confiscate if they invaded / took over New Zealand (my original statement was that they were fortunate no one had bothered to do so). If they were taken over, they stand to lose their 40 million sheep and ownership of some of the most beautiful landscape in the world.

Sorry if that wasn't clear, I thought my meaning was self-evident...

What does not confiscating sheep have to do with remaining a free country? :eh:

"Confiscate" = "take away" - as in an invader taking over their country, which was fairly common for small countries until the last century or so.

But I agree about the landscapes... I have spent over four months in NZ and have set foot on nearly every area of the country except the far tips of the east and west coasts of N. Island.

I'm jealous! Well, we may move there yet.

[PhantomPholly]

I wanna travel, but would never live or settle down anywhere else.

2 coastlines, so many climates / terrains, beautiful geography, natural resources, rich history, the highest diversity in the world, we educate every citizen, the best medicine around, security, a solid constitution, history's greatest military, the birthplace of most modern tech advances, freedom of speech, freedom to worship, free elections, the most culturally influential, the strongest trade...

why live anywhere else? I'm telling you, this is the Promised Land.

Enjoy it while it lasts. Nothing is certain.

[Samm]

You asked what someone would be able to confiscate if they invaded / took over New Zealand (my original statement was that they were fortunate no one had bothered to do so). If they were taken over, they stand to lose their 40 million sheep and ownership of some of the most beautiful landscape in the world.

Sorry if that wasn't clear, I thought my meaning was self-evident...

No, I did not ask you that... because... you were not clear that that was what you meant. (and... I know what confiscate means... :neutral: )

I'm jealous! Well, we may move there yet.
It is a nice place to visit, but they do not want you to live there. ;)

[Once a Marine]

I will never give up my Country,My oath of allegience I took,when I First joined The USMC 44years ago and repeated many times when I joined the Pa.Air National Guard and reenlisted many times with 30 years total service.Still stands now!

[Lego-Man]

I have considered moving to New Zealand, and even once had a sponsor should I have decided to. From what I have read, and from what I learned from natives living there, I think the climate would agree with me, and the standard of living is quite nice.

So, should I ever move away from the US, I would move there.

[Samm]

I have considered moving to New Zealand, and even once had a sponsor should I have decided to. From what I have read, and from what I learned from natives living there, I think the climate would agree with me, and the standard of living is quite nice.

So, should I ever move away from the US, I would move there.

Family friends of ours, two of the nicest people anyone could know, tried to emigrate from Oregon to NZ. He was a commercial pilot and his wife was a New Zealander. She was a former flight attendant; they met in SE Asia when he was flying for Air America and she with Air New Zealand. They moved to Queenstown...one of my favorite places in NZ... where her family lived.

After a year they moved back to Oregon. During that year in NZ they experienced continuous subtle discrimination and backbiting by the locals (because he was a Yank) all the while that everybody was nice to their faces. He was very disappointed; she was shocked. As I said earlier... NZ is a very nice place to visit, but they do not want you to live there.

[jbthe20th]

England, more specifically London. I spent a few months there working and love the life (pubs after work, extra on Fridays). I have plenty of friends there, and the summers are beautiful... unfortunately, the winters are horrible and they have no clue how to deal with more than three inches of snow.

Second guess would be Denmark (Copenhagen)... an absolutely beautiful city that I adored. Plus, it's a 30 minute train ride to Malmo, Sweeden. I tell ya, when the time comes for me to go, I'm going to go there to die.

[Samm]

England, more specifically London. I spent a few months there working and love the life (pubs after work, extra on Fridays). I have plenty of friends there, and the summers are beautiful... unfortunately, the winters are horrible and they have no clue how to deal with more than three inches of snow.

Second guess would be Denmark (Copenhagen)... an absolutely beautiful city that I adored. Plus, it's a 30 minute train ride to Malmo, Sweeden. I tell ya, when the time comes for me to go, I'm going to go there to die.

Yeah... if this country is going to go off the deep end of Socialism you may as well go where it is fully developed like Denmark and Sweden so you don't have to deal with the growing pains. ;)

[JohnRandolph]

I'm already there

http://images.goantiques.com/thumbnails2/SGF9389/SGF9389M417.jpg

[firemommy]

Definitely Ireland! Beauty and wonderful drinks!!

[PhantomPholly]

No, I did not ask you that... because... you were not clear that that was what you meant. (and... I know what confiscate means... :neutral: )

Ah well, it is an imperfect world...

It is a nice place to visit, but they do not want you to live there. ;)

Funny, everyone I've met from there wants us to come join them. Maybe it was something you ate..

;)

[Samm]

Ah well, it is an imperfect world...


Funny, everyone I've met from there wants us to come join them. Maybe it was something you ate..

;)

That's what everyone told my friend too... "Come on down... we have a job lined up for you and everything..." :neutral:

New Zealand is an extremely friendly country to visit, but once you emigrate it is another story. And it is not just we Yanks. I met a Canadian guy... owned a sporting goods store in Auckland... he had been there for 15 years and told me they still treated him like an outsider. Sort of like people moving to New England... they never quite fit in.

[spearmaster]

Germany! Because of Oktoberfest of course. Maybe Ireland, but I would have to visit it first. The beer sounds mighty good in Ireland though. :drool:

[spearmaster]

Texas.

Texas is awesome, I may have to become one of those damn Yankees here soon if Ohio doesn't improve any.

[LibertarianDude]

Australia - especially Perth or New Zealand.


Australia has a lot of votes in my thread.

Anyone here from Australia? Why is it so good there. Also, what's the gold coast of Australia.

[PuckHappy]

Hong Kong. I like the fact that school children there are required to learn english. Unlike the the country of Los Angeles.

[King Cantona]

England, more specifically London. I spent a few months there working and love the life (pubs after work, extra on Fridays). I have plenty of friends there, and the summers are beautiful... unfortunately, the winters are horrible and they have no clue how to deal with more than three inches of snow.

Second guess would be Denmark (Copenhagen)... an absolutely beautiful city that I adored. Plus, it's a 30 minute train ride to Malmo, Sweeden. I tell ya, when the time comes for me to go, I'm going to go there to die.

You have friends in London? Good then because I'm from the north of England and my sister's friend is Scottish. She says that people get less friendly the further south you go, something that in my experience seems pretty accurate...

Anyway the last time I passed through London I didn't stop, got off the train at Euston, tube to Victoria and got the train to Dover, I'm not a fan of London but that's just me...

[CHUG]

You have friends in London? Good then because I'm from the north of England and my sister's friend is Scottish. She says that people get less friendly the further south you go, something that in my experience seems pretty accurate...

Anyway the last time I passed through London I didn't stop, got off the train at Euston, tube to Victoria and got the train to Dover, I'm not a fan of London but that's just me...

You could have been travelling on a train I was working.:hug:

[Samm]

Australia has a lot of votes in my thread.

Anyone here from Australia? Why is it so good there. Also, what's the gold coast of Australia.

I can't tell you why it is so good there... I don't think it is.

But the Gold Coast is a ritzy stretch of tourist beach south of Brisbane centered on Surfers Paradise. Its kind of like Miami Beach, Waikiki, or Copacabana. There is nothing "gold" about it, except perhaps for the tans and the contents of the tourists pockets.

[docjp]

Definitely Ireland! Beauty and wonderful drinks!!

But if one is not inebriated or hung over, or a member of the IRA, how is it?

[docjp]

I wanna travel, but would never live or settle down anywhere else.

2 coastlines, so many climates / terrains, beautiful geography, natural resources, rich history, the highest diversity in the world, we educate every citizen, the best medicine around, security, a solid constitution, history's greatest military, the birthplace of most modern tech advances, freedom of speech, freedom to worship, free elections, the most culturally influential, the strongest trade...

why live anywhere else? I'm telling you, this is the Promised Land.

Yes, the America you describe WAS a wonderful place. However, it allowed too much freedom to those who were fearful of freedom, fearful of personal responsibility, and in denial of God. As a consequence, a war is being waged against the natural Law of Karma, and America is fast becoming a third-world country thanks to King Obama and his delusional thinking.

[King Cantona]

You could have been travelling on a train I was working.:hug:

It was May 1991, I was on my way to Rotterdam where United defeated Barcelona, I've not been back since...:)...

[CHUG]

It was May 1991, I was on my way to Rotterdam where United defeated Barcelona, I've not been back since...:)...


OK then maybe not. Good grief KC, we don't bite down south.:D

[King Cantona]

OK then maybe not. Good grief KC, we don't bite down south.:D

I'm not criticising southerners, one of my best mates is a cockney but I haven't felt the need to venture south of Watford for a long time...;)...

Actually I don't think I've been south of Stockport for a while...........:))............

Well we've got a good airport so I can fly anywhere in the world without going down south, actually I tell a lie....

I've just remembered, I was changing planes in Philadelphia and the plane was overbooked to Manchester so I gave up my seat and went to London (there was still plenty of seats on that flight) and got a free return flight anywhere in the world as a result...

Now that is the only time since 1991 that I've ventured down south........:D.........

[PhantomPholly]

That's what everyone told my friend too... "Come on down... we have a job lined up for you and everything..." :neutral:

New Zealand is an extremely friendly country to visit, but once you emigrate it is another story. And it is not just we Yanks. I met a Canadian guy... owned a sporting goods store in Auckland... he had been there for 15 years and told me they still treated him like an outsider. Sort of like people moving to New England... they never quite fit in.

Ah, gotcha. Well, isn't that really true everywhere? I've been in Atlanta over 15 years, and those who grew up here still ask, "Where are you from?"

Course, it might be because of my somewhat unusual combination of accent snippets haphazardly assembled growing up in various places....

:)

[Samm]

Ah, gotcha. Well, isn't that really true everywhere? I've been in Atlanta over 15 years, and those who grew up here still ask, "Where are you from?"

Course, it might be because of my somewhat unusual combination of accent snippets haphazardly assembled growing up in various places....

:)
Not where I live... True you may never be accepted, but most people are and many become "locals" within a few years... even months in some cases. It all depends on your values and your attitude. Where are you from is still a common question, but it is asked with the assumption that everybody is from somewhere else. Surprise is often the reaction when you say "I was born here."

[johnrocks]

Switzerland or one of the Nordic countries like Finland.

[Lego-Man]

Family friends of ours, two of the nicest people anyone could know, tried to emigrate from Oregon to NZ. He was a commercial pilot and his wife was a New Zealander. She was a former flight attendant; they met in SE Asia when he was flying for Air America and she with Air New Zealand. They moved to Queenstown...one of my favorite places in NZ... where her family lived.

After a year they moved back to Oregon. During that year in NZ they experienced continuous subtle discrimination and backbiting by the locals (because he was a Yank) all the while that everybody was nice to their faces. He was very disappointed; she was shocked. As I said earlier... NZ is a very nice place to visit, but they do not want you to live there.

I was invited, and would have had a job the moment I landed in Napier. I dunno what it is really like as I have never been there, so who knows? You are probably right. Then again, you could find that here as well, and in the next town over, the people could be totally sincere.

[content]

Jamaica. Wonderful beaches, mountains, great coffee and other local products.