Ron Paul doing good but liberals shutting him down.

[Thanatos144]

This hurts more than mosy of you can know for me to admit this but the Federal reserve transparency act of 2009 is a must have...Yet the ruling class of democrats keep shutting it down befor it is even heard. Why are they so scared?
http://www.nolanchart.com/article6063.html

This is link you might find interesting I did.

http://www.infowars.com/bernanke-congress-audit-would-be-takeover-pressure-on-fed-monetary-policy-would-trigger-economic-collapse/ More fear mongering what dose Bernie have to hide and why is he saying the economy would crash if they are audited?

Am I the only one who is not wondering if Paul has hit a nerve?

And yes it kills me to admit it.

[Thanatos144]

I am shocked there are not some here to rub it in my face LOL

[PaleoPaul]

Who's hacking Thant's account?

[johnrocks]

I am shocked there are not some here to rub it in my face LOL

No need to do that as long as you honestly support him when you think he's right. in fact, I commend you for this.

[Thanatos144]

trust me it hurts. LOL But this is kinda scary how much the reserve is controlling the libs in power. Something is fishy.

[Vaard]

heh.. both sides are against ron paul, not just "the libs".........

he is a threat to their power no matter which letter "their" falls under at the moment........

[johnrocks]

trust me it hurts. LOL But this is kinda scary how much the reserve is controlling the libs in power. Something is fishy.

Neither side wants to let go of the Fed's teet, Paul is treading in dangerous waters,imho.

[Thanatos144]

heh.. both sides are against ron paul, not just "the libs".........

he is a threat to their power no matter which letter "their" falls under at the moment........
seeing as libs are the power it falls on them to aduit them not the conservatives seeing a bunch seem to want this.

[VCaddy05]

Pauls a good senator from what ive seen, no reason to knock any senator for good work. Hell Id give pelosi credit if she did something useful once in her life, instead of turning people to stone when the look into her eyes. Good work is good work, and if it can help the country then it deserves praise, anything different is just partisan ******** putting the country second.

[Vaard]

seeing as libs are the power it falls on them to aduit them not the conservatives seeing a bunch seem to want this.

yeah, of course the "conservatives" didnt actually do anything when they had actual control over congress.......

[PaleoPaul]

At least it's a better thread than "Obama didn't wear his red tie today!"

[Vaard]

Pauls a good senator from what ive seen, no reason to knock any senator for good work. Hell Id give pelosi credit if she did something useful once in her life, instead of turning people to stone when the look into her eyes. Good work is good work, and if it can help the country then it deserves praise, anything different is just partisan ******** putting the country second.

ron paul is a represenative, not a senator.......

[Thanatos144]

Neither side wants to let go of the Fed's teet, Paul is treading in dangerous waters,imho.

I personally could care less if he ruins his career cause He is a politician maybe he will get a real job after what matters is this act. This is important. The idea not the man. I will support this but sometimes you have to do whats right not whats easy.

[johnrocks]

seeing as libs are the power it falls on them to aduit them not the conservatives seeing a bunch seem to want this.

This isn't the first time Paul has introduced this, I think it goes back to the 70's,his wanting to audit the Fed.,if not abolish.

Again,thanks for the link though,it shows Bernanke to not have a problem regulating everyone...just not his baby,the Fed.

[Thanatos144]

yeah, of course the "conservatives" didnt actually do anything when they had actual control over congress.......

Oh so lets place blame instead of actually doing something? Grow up.

[VCaddy05]

ron paul is a represenative, not a senator.......

your right my bad i was typing faster than thinking :wall:

[Thanatos144]

This isn't the first time Paul has introduced this, I think it goes back to the 70's,his wanting to audit the Fed.,if not abolish.

Again,thanks for the link though,it shows Bernanke to not have a problem regulating everyone...just not his baby,the Fed.

your point is what? Place blame instead of getting this passed? WAKE UP!

[VCaddy05]

Neither side wants to let go of the Fed's teet, Paul is treading in dangerous waters,imho.

i dunno, he maybe but I think the fed reserve is getting more attention these last few months or so then ever before. I think light shed on this issue is good, and he may benefit from something like this. At least I would hope so.

[johnrocks]

your point is what? Place blame instead of getting this passed? WAKE UP!

Wake up,lol, I have a thread on this very topic that is probably 4-5 months old.:)) All I'm stating is both sides are to blame,not just one like you mentioned.

[Vaard]

Oh so lets place blame instead of actually doing something? Grow up.

the republicans hated ron paul when they were in control as much as the dems do now......


i am blaming all, not jjust the side you hate, so you should be the one to grow up.......

[Thanatos144]

we all know I so am not a fan of Paul. I find him weak and dishonest but this is something that should be supported. Hell if the dust kick up is this nasty I am thinking he is on to something. Like I herd on the Beck show by the Judge (not gonna try and spell his name) We know more about the CIA than we do about the Fed reserve. why is this?

[Vaard]

your point is what? Place blame instead of getting this passed? WAKE UP!

it will never pass.....


the only ones supporting this are doing it so they can pretend they are conservatives during the next election because thye know there is no way this will pass no matter which party is in control.........

[VCaddy05]

your point is what? Place blame instead of getting this passed? WAKE UP!

his point is that this issue has been brought up many times but is hushed by whoever is in power. Also that Bernanke is a ****ing bag of crap and will want noone to see what he is doing behind this massive curtain called the Fed Reserve.

[JMikey]

There is a reason why it's very likely even with massive popular support, this bill will not pass: accountability. They like the way things are now, where there is none.

There are two ways to pay for bailouts, etc.

1.) Taxes. This is politically suicidal, especially if we paid for everything up front, instead of passing it on to our great grandchildren.

2.) Borrow it. This is unlimited because of the Fed.

Imagine if you would, if Obama had to tell people that they were going to be short $200 a month for 10 years to pay for the bailouts.. You'd see a bi-partisan "go to hell." People don't care because we can just charge it. And as long as the majority really doesn't care, this type of stuff we see now will continue.

The Fed is the enabler of big government, and so it's likely going to be defended hardily by the existing power structure.

[Thanatos144]

Wake up,lol, I have a thread on this very topic that is probably 4-5 months old.:)) All I'm stating is both sides are to blame,not just one like you mentioned.

well if the republicans were in power I would be calling for them to do this as well. Now that we got the blame republicans for everything out of the way we can move on right?

[johnrocks]

There is a reason why it's very likely even with massive popular support, this bill will not pass: accountability. They like the way things are now, where there is none.

There are two ways to pay for bailouts, etc.

1.) Taxes. This is politically suicidal, especially if we paid for everything up front, instead of passing it on to our great grandchildren.

2.) Borrow it. This is unlimited because of the Fed.

Imagine if you would, if Obama had to tell people that they were going to be short $200 a month for 10 years to pay for the bailouts.. You'd see a bi-partisan "go to hell." People don't care because we can just charge it. And as long as the majority really doesn't care, this type of stuff we see now will continue.

The Fed is the enabler of big government, and so it's likely going to be defended hardily by the existing power structure.

Yep, that's why short of abolishing, I support PAYGO(true PAYGO) and wish taxpayers had to write a check to the IRS each month.

[johnrocks]

well if the republicans were in power I would be calling for them to do this as well. Now that we got the blame republicans for everything out of the way we can move on right?

Again BOTH,not JUST but yeah,move on,call or write your Congressman if he or she isn't a supporter and voice your opinion.

[VCaddy05]

we all know I so am not a fan of Paul. I find him weak and dishonest but this is something that should be supported. Hell if the dust kick up is this nasty I am thinking he is on to something. Like I herd on the Beck show by the Judge (not gonna try and spell his name) We know more about the CIA than we do about the Fed reserve. why is this?

I dont agree with Paul on alot of issues myself, that said I would also cut off my right sack of manhood to have him as a voice here in the Peoples Republic of Maryland. If we had about 20%more people in the GOP like Paul I think we would be in a much different place right now, maybe even with a much better outlook on the country. Its fine to disagree with him, but praise when right is a good thing. If the Repubs will get behind him now, great, but I am cautious that it will not last, as the Fed Reserv has been protected by both parties in the past. Even the Party that I am a semi-proud member of.

[VCaddy05]

well if the republicans were in power I would be calling for them to do this as well. Now that we got the blame republicans for everything out of the way we can move on right?

trust me hes not blaming republicans, hes just not letting them off the hook. If they have skated around this issue before, why have full trust that they wont do it again. Trust me I hope that MY party the GOP will do the right thing, but they have been spinless previously,and i just hope they will stand up this time.

[VCaddy05]

Yep, that's why short of abolishing, I support PAYGO(true PAYGO) and wish taxpayers had to write a check to the IRS each month.

LOL yes true paygo, not increase spending 10bajillion dollars, then say we need to pay as we go from now on. :)) I loved that little dirty spin trick

[johnrocks]

trust me hes not blaming republicans, hes just not letting them off the hook. If they have skated around this issue before, why have full trust that they wont do it again. Trust me I hope that MY party the GOP will do the right thing, but they have been spinless previously,and i just hope they will stand up this time.

Yep, I too belong to the GOP however like you, I'm not going to reward bad behavior and blindly follow. They irritate the heck out of me right now, they need new leaders that don't carry the garbage of the last decade or so around with them,imho.

[johnrocks]

LOL yes true paygo, not increase spending 10bajillion dollars, then say we need to pay as we go from now on. :)) I loved that little dirty spin trick

lol, I was wondering who was going to understand what I meant. Now, I'm off to the hardware store,later!

[VCaddy05]

Yep, I too belong to the GOP however like you, I'm not going to reward bad behavior and blindly follow. They irritate the heck out of me right now, they need new leaders that don't carry the garbage of the last decade or so around with them,imho.

ya damn right they do, i used to vote for the best option within the party, but from nov. 3 2008 on i will vote for the best candidate now, even if it means voting libertarian, i will do so.

Hardware store ayee buying some wood to barricade your doors up already?? lol

[TheWallbanger2010]

It's not just the liberals who are shutting Ron Paul down, but so is the Republican establishment, including Sean Hannity. Sean was no fan of his Presidential bid last year.

[Thanatos144]

It's not just the liberals who are shutting Ron Paul down, but so is the Republican establishment, including Sean Hannity. Sean was no fan of his Presidential bid last year.

Thats cause he would have made a horrid president and he blamed us for 9-11 I wouldnt have voted for him ether.

[dizzy3a]

Pauls a good senator from what ive seen, no reason to knock any senator for good work. Hell Id give pelosi credit if she did something useful once in her life, instead of turning people to stone when the look into her eyes. Good work is good work, and if it can help the country then it deserves praise, anything different is just partisan ******** putting the country second.

He's not a senator, just a congressman.

[McCoyFan]

I am shocked there are not some here to rub it in my face LOL

perhaps the topic might have more credibility
if you didnt use as reference any source from alex jones such as infowar,
if you want this be taken seriously

[Thanatos144]

perhaps the topic might have more credibility
if you didnt use as reference any source from alex jones such as infowar,
if you want this be taken seriously

Um how is it false?

[McCoyFan]

Um how is it false?


i said dykes lack credibility and believability


aaron c. dykes whom you reference from infowars is not an expert economist.


he makes two bit movies for alex jones such as
"Terror Storm : A History of Government Sponsored Terrorism"
and "New World Order"

and write conspiracy type of propaganda for alex jones


he only owns and runs a "ma and pop" Magnolia Management/Multimedia in Angleton, Texas
and has no experience with national or internationl finacial or banking transactions

[Thanatos144]

i said dykes lack credibility and believability


aaron c. dykes whom you reference from infowars is not an expert economist.


he makes two bit movies for alex jones such as
"Terror Storm : A History of Government Sponsored Terrorism"
and "New World Order"

and write conspiracy type of propaganda for alex jones


he only owns and runs a "ma and pop" Magnolia Management/Multimedia in Angleton, Texas
and has no experience with national or internationl finacial or banking transactions

Again where is the substance of my OP false?

[dad49er]

seeing as libs are the power it falls on them to aduit them not the conservatives seeing a bunch seem to want this.

Liberals would object to that.
Just as conservatives did.
Republicans in control (or majority) did not mean conservatives in control (or majority).
Democrats in control (or majority) doesn't mean the liberals have all that clout either.

[Thanatos144]

Liberals would object to that.
Just as conservatives did.
Republicans in control (or majority) did not mean conservatives in control (or majority).
Democrats in control (or majority) doesn't mean the liberals have all that clout either.

see thats were you are wrong cause the majority in the congress and wh is liberal .

[dad49er]

see thats were you are wrong cause the majority in the congress and wh is liberal .

Not if you ask liberals, or read actual liberal media publications.
Read Mother Jones, The Nation, or even Huffington Post.
They act as if they are an oppressed minority just as conservatives do.

There Presidential candidates (Gravel, Kucinhich, etc) all lost too.

[dad49er]

see thats were you are wrong cause the majority in the congress and wh is liberal .

They are comparatively liberal, next to conservatives, but not liberal as a stand alone group.
Just like when liberals call Bush conservative, conservatives object, and rightly so.

[Thanatos144]

Hey if it smells like a liberal, Squawks like a liberal. and looks like a liberal guess what? it is a liberal.

[johnrocks]

Hey if it smells like a liberal, Squawks like a liberal. and looks like a liberal guess what? it is a liberal.

Which is dominated on both sides, the debt didn't grow to the size it has or the deficits with just democrats.

[Thanatos144]

Which is dominated on both sides, the debt didn't grow to the size it has or the deficits with just democrats.

I am sorry did I say republican or democrat?

[johnrocks]

I am sorry did I say republican or democrat?

Did my post come across as arguing with you,lol.

[Thanatos144]

Did my post come across as arguing with you,lol.

Making myself clear thats all.

[dad49er]

Hey if it smells like a liberal, Squawks like a liberal. and looks like a liberal guess what? it is a liberal.

Just wait till someone to your right comes along, and calls you a liberal.
Then you will get the idea.

[johnrocks]

Just wait till someone to your right comes along, and calls you a liberal.
Then you will get the idea.

Trust me,that's already happened.:angel:

[McCoyFan]

This hurts more than mosy of you can know for me to admit this but the Federal reserve transparency act of 2009 is a must have...Yet the ruling class of democrats keep shutting it down befor it is even heard. Why are they so scared?

they may be "scared" because Paul's underlying goal is to abolish the Federal Reserve
and not just only an audit of the Federal Reserve


but then alex jones disciples are drawn to him by fear as jones play on and make money off people's fears

[johnrocks]

they may be "scared" because Paul's underlying goal is to abolish the Federal Reserve
and not just only an audit of the Federal Reserve


but then alex jones disciples are drawn to him by fear as jones play on and make money of the fear of people

It looks like all sides have the fear baiters, Alex Jones is someone I heard of when I first became a member here,he's too kooky for me with the 9-11 truth crap however he has made some great points,imho. Just goes to show,even a blind squirrel will eventually find a nut I suppose,lol.

[byzantine catholic]

This hurts more than mosy of you can know for me to admit this but the Federal reserve transparency act of 2009 is a must have...Yet the ruling class of democrats keep shutting it down befor it is even heard. Why are they so scared?
http://www.nolanchart.com/article6063.html

This is link you might find interesting I did.

http://www.infowars.com/bernanke-congress-audit-would-be-takeover-pressure-on-fed-monetary-policy-would-trigger-economic-collapse/ More fear mongering what dose Bernie have to hide and why is he saying the economy would crash if they are audited?

Am I the only one who is not wondering if Paul has hit a nerve?

And yes it kills me to admit it.I thought you did not like Ron Paul.

[byzantine catholic]

I am glad you are defending him though. Even some of the cons who believe in interventionism likes Ron Paul's domestic policy.

[byzantine catholic]

It looks like all sides have the fear baiters, Alex Jones is someone I heard of when I first became a member here,he's too kooky for me with the 9-11 truth crap however he has made some great points,imho. Just goes to show,even a blind squirrel will eventually find a nut I suppose,lol.Alex Jones is a nutty loon with all of that government caused 9-11 crap!:mad:I like what Ron Paul says when asked if the government did 9-11, "Absolutely not!" 9-11 was of course caused by the Al'Queda but our foreign policy has made the Al' Queda go into Iraq though.

[BasicGreatGuy]

Good to see you give credit when it is due Thanatos.

[Buschb]

good to see you give credit when it is due thanatos.

+1

[dad49er]

Trust me,that's already happened.:angel:

I have seen it here myself.
Howls of protest, and outrage.
Often when they are guilty of the same themselves.