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Buffalo
July 9th, 2009, 10:31 am
On Fox and Friends, during a discussion of marriage/Alzehemiers link, he starts rambling on impure American marriages, marrying other "species", how the Swedes and Finns have pure marriage because they marry other Swedes and Finns. Found it on Gawker

http://gawker.com/5310208/brian-kilmeade-would-like-species-and-ethnics-to-remain-pure
(warning, link is to Gawker, comments may not be family friendly)

What is up here?

The Girl from Ipanema
July 9th, 2009, 10:39 am
:)) Was that someone off camera whistling "If I only had a brain?"

Buffalo
July 9th, 2009, 10:42 am
:)) Was that someone off camera whistling "If I only had a brain?"
That was pretty funny. Seriously though, does Kilmeade have diarrhea of the mouth or something. Even Gretchen was trying to steer him away from where he was going, but he soldiered on.

The Girl from Ipanema
July 9th, 2009, 10:46 am
LOL! I THINK I know what he was getting at, but yeah, he should've just stopped when he realized how poorly he was doing at getting his thoughts out.

LouC
July 9th, 2009, 12:09 pm
On Fox and Friends, during a discussion of marriage/Alzehemiers link, he starts rambling on impure American marriages, marrying other "species", how the Swedes and Finns have pure marriage because they marry other Swedes and Finns. Found it on Gawker

http://gawker.com/5310208/brian-kilmeade-would-like-species-and-ethnics-to-remain-pure
(warning, link is to Gawker, comments may not be family friendly)

What is up here?

What is up here?

What is up, after re-watching the clip multiple times, is I feel he felt the study results shouldn't apply in the United States because the of the make up of population differences between melting pot America and where the study was done.

The terms of "pure" and "impure" were not being used as pejoratives by him but as contrasts between what he perceived as their more racially homogeneous population versus our more racially eclectic one, for marrying, and its possible skewing of marriage based studies.

Did he have a point underlying his poor rendering of said point?

Perhaps he did, but I don't have the study or it's structure or reported results before me, so I don't know.

I have watched Fox and Friends nearly every morning for many years, so I have a little better sense of Brian, certainly unlike anyone in the Gawker linked article.

EmmanuelGoldstein
July 9th, 2009, 12:13 pm
Mornin' Lou :hug:

I wonder what's his SF username?

LouC
July 9th, 2009, 12:49 pm
Mornin' Lou :hug:

I wonder what's his SF username?

SF username?

Morning Emma :hug:

King Cantona
July 9th, 2009, 1:10 pm
how the Swedes and Finns have pure marriage because they marry other Swedes and Finns. Found it on Gawker


Sorry to break it to Brian but my brother is married to a Swede so she obviously didn't adhere to his racial purity beliefs.....

Buffalo
July 9th, 2009, 1:15 pm
Sorry to break it to Brian but my brother is married to a Swede so she obviously didn't adhere to his racial purity beliefs.....
:)) race mixer! I kind of understand the guys point, but the phrasing, wow. Even the rest of them saw the trouble and tried to save him, he just wouldn't put down the shovel.

Buffalo
July 9th, 2009, 1:18 pm
What is up here?

What is up, after re-watching the clip multiple times, is I feel he felt the study results shouldn't apply in the United States because the of the make up of population differences between melting pot America and where the study was done.

The terms of "pure" and "impure" were not being used as pejoratives by him but as contrasts between what he perceived as their more racially homogeneous population versus our more racially eclectic one, for marrying, and its possible skewing of marriage based studies.

Did he have a point underlying his poor rendering of said point?

Perhaps he did, but I don't have the study or it's structure or reported results before me, so I don't know.

I have watched Fox and Friends nearly every morning for many years, so I have a little better sense of Brian, certainly unlike anyone in the Gawker linked article.
I kinda get where he was going. The phrasing he used is out there. I don't watch Fox and Friends, don't really want to, so I won't indict the guy based on this, just thought it very odd.

King Cantona
July 9th, 2009, 1:23 pm
I kinda get where he was going. The phrasing he used is out there. I don't watch Fox and Friends, don't really want to, so I won't indict the guy based on this, just thought it very odd.

I wouldn't like to indict him for that either and I don't watch Fox News but I have seen Fox & Friends in the past and I don't have a good opinion of any of 'em......

LouC
July 9th, 2009, 1:52 pm
Sorry to break it to Brian but my brother is married to a Swede so she obviously didn't adhere to his racial purity beliefs.....

That proves nothing.

LouC
July 9th, 2009, 1:55 pm
I wouldn't like to indict him for that either and I don't watch Fox News but I have seen Fox & Friends in the past and I don't have a good opinion of any of 'em......

Out of all the morning coffee klatch news - magazine programs I have watched over the years they are the least annoying.

I preferred the E D Hill crew over this one.

King Cantona
July 9th, 2009, 2:42 pm
That proves nothing.

She is Swedish and my brother is British...........

Seems to prove that contrary to Brian Kilmeade's opinion, Swedes don't just marry Swedes........

LouC
July 9th, 2009, 3:05 pm
She is Swedish and my brother is British...........

Seems to prove that contrary to Brian Kilmeade's opinion, Swedes don't just marry Swedes........

That isn't what he said.

King Cantona
July 9th, 2009, 4:51 pm
That isn't what he said.

I just watched the clip again, he said "Swedes have pure genes because they marry other Swedes, that's the rule".....

Unfortunately I may not get the nuances of American speech because I'm British and although we Brits use irony frequently, when someone says something obviously without irony we tend to take it at face value.....

That being said, he is only guilty of foot in mouth syndrome in my opinion. This is quite a common occurrence on Fox & Friends I believe, it certainly has been on the very few occasions that I've seen it.....

sgdp
July 9th, 2009, 5:29 pm
"Species"

:))

shaveking
July 9th, 2009, 6:04 pm
What is up here?

What is up, after re-watching the clip multiple times, is I feel he felt the study results shouldn't apply in the United States because the of the make up of population differences between melting pot America and where the study was done.

The terms of "pure" and "impure" were not being used as pejoratives by him but as contrasts between what he perceived as their more racially homogeneous population versus our more racially eclectic one, for marrying, and its possible skewing of marriage based studies.

Did he have a point underlying his poor rendering of said point?

Perhaps he did, but I don't have the study or it's structure or reported results before me, so I don't know.

I have watched Fox and Friends nearly every morning for many years, so I have a little better sense of Brian, certainly unlike anyone in the Gawker linked article.Nice try, but your spinning betrays the lengths you'll go to defend something you don't understand just because it's Fox. Maybe your altar to the-brown-haired-guy-who-isn't-Steve-Doocy isn't functioning so well.

The key phrase is "pure genes", something your statement does not address at all.

I believe what he was intending to refer to was how a lack of genetic diversity makes a person more prone to certain diseases (such as sickle cell being more prevalent in African Americans and Hispanics, or the problems that arise from multiple generations of incest.) The real problem comes from him saying it doesn't apply because we "marry" other ethnicities, when he should be saying it doesn't apply because "we" (or more relevantly, our ancestors) *reproduce* with other ethnicities.

This is of course disregarding that if the study controlled ethnicity - which is implied by his own statement when he says the Swedes and Finns have pure genes - then this kind of criticism wouldn't apply.

Oh, and he is obviously an idiot for juxtaposing "ethnicities" and "species." In the end it really is just a bunch of verbal diarrhea coming out of the-brown-haired-guy-who-isn't-Steve-Doocy.

LouC
July 9th, 2009, 8:00 pm
Nice try, but your spinning betrays the lengths you'll go to defend something you don't understand just because it's Fox...

Bull.