North Korea threatened Wednesday to wipe the United States off the map

[DRS]

North Korea threatened Wednesday to wipe the United States off the map as Washington and its allies watched for signs the regime will launch a series of missiles in the coming days.

Off China's coast, a U.S. destroyer was tailing a North Korean ship suspected of transporting illicit weapons to Myanmar in what could be the first test of U.N. sanctions passed to punish the nation for an underground nuclear test last month.

The Kang Nam left the North Korean port of Nampo a week ago with the USS John S. McCain close behind. The ship, accused of transporting banned goods in the past, is believed bound for Myanmar, according to South Korean and U.S. officials.

The new U.N. Security Council resolution requires member states to seek permission to inspect suspicious cargo. North Korea has said it would consider interception a declaration of war and on Wednesday accused the U.S. of seeking to provoke another Korean War.

"If the U.S. imperialists start another war, the army and people of Korea will ... wipe out the aggressors on the globe once and for all," the official Korean Central News Agency said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090624/ap_on_re_as/as_koreas_nuclear

Someone needs medication and a reality check

[ThrowCop]

And in other news, Woodie Allen threatened to, "mop the floor" with Mike Tyson.

[CrusaderFrank]

After 3 Kamikazes using only US Commercial airliners toppled the WTC, killed almost 3,000 people, inflicted centi-billions in damage and effectively closed US Capital markets for a week I take these threats a little more seriously, especially from a nuclear armed country no matter how big or small.

Sink the ****ing ship and have the US Navy itself put the sinking on YouTube

[harumph]

This little wackjob is extremely dangerous. I don't expect Obama to do or say anything about this until the world starts weighing in on it. It wouldn't surprise me if Obama's willing to give him the first one, then act. And THAT's scary. (I truly hope I'm wrong on that one.)

[croupier101]

invade.

[margaretms]

"If the U.S. imperialists start another war, the army and people of Korea will ... wipe out the aggressors on the globe once and for all," the official Korean Central News Agency said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090624/ap_on_re_as/as_koreas_nuclear

Someone needs medication and a reality check

North Korea state media has been blaming the U.S. (for everything) and threatening it for decades. If you're interested in the subject, check out the documentary "State of Mind," in which two (either BBC or CBC) documentarians got into the country to follow the lives of two young girls as they trained for the state games. It's incredible--ostensibly, the film is about the two atheletes, but its subject is really life in NK--bizarre in ways that are difficult to imagine until you see it. At one point, the power and the lights go off in one of the family's apartments--they immediately (and with utter seriousness) blame Americans directly for the outage.

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

And in other news, Woodie Allen threatened to, "mop the floor" with Mike Tyson.

:))

[Darkscream]

invade.



Yeah...and then have to invade China - then we can all feel the loving heat of a nuclear destruction.


That'll show em.

[margaretms]

And in other news, Woodie Allen threatened to, "mop the floor" with Mike Tyson.

No joke: as a young man, Allen was actually an excellent athelete and (I am not making this up) trained for a while to be a professional boxer (featherweight).

[PSYOP]

What? This is NOT suppose to happen under an obomba administration. He has given speaches that have repaired our image to the rest of the world. Obomba unlike Bush uses diplomacy first and he has stated he would meet without preconditions with the leaders of N. Korea, Iran, Syria, Cuba, Venezuela within his first year. How could this be happening with the foreign policy genius oboma? How will he react to this problem? I bet he'll give another meaningless speech.

[Bertha]

And in other news, Woodie Allen threatened to, "mop the floor" with Mike Tyson.

Interesting how you folks had the same mindset when Osama Bin Laden declared war on the United States too....

[NightTrain]

0bama threatened to invade South Korea in retaliation....

[Metal Conservative]

invade.

Alright, who are you and what have you done with Croup?

[CrusaderFrank]

Interesting how you folks had the same mindset when Osama Bin Laden declared war on the United States too....

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.

[croupier101]

0bama threatened to invade South Korea in retaliation....

Really? Rumsfeld must be back.

[LibertyinAtl]

This little wackjob is extremely dangerous. I don't expect Obama to do or say anything about this until the world starts weighing in on it. It wouldn't surprise me if Obama's willing to give him the first one, then act. And THAT's scary. (I truly hope I'm wrong on that one.)
He will sit on the fence and vote present.
See how it pans out before saying anything

[PSYOP]

I wonder if N. Korea is one of the 60 states oboma thinks there are?

[See It Clearly]

What? This is NOT suppose to happen under an obomba administration. He has given speaches that have repaired our image to the rest of the world. Obomba unlike Bush uses diplomacy first and he has stated he would meet without preconditions with the leaders of N. Korea, Iran, Syria, Cuba, Venezuela within his first year. How could this be happening with the foreign policy genius oboma? How will he react to this problem? I bet he'll give another meaningless speech.

Not to worry, "the administration" will issue a letter to the opposing party. "The administration" will let the opposing party know that they should not use such harsh language because it is not nice as it sounds kind of "cowboy-ish" and then "the administration" will ensure that the opposing party knows that the real reason they are mad at us is because of BOOOOOOOSH. :whistle:

[Metal Conservative]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.

Ahh the little nutjob is just misunderstood. Right Dems? We just need to have Cokey McFartbrain sitdown and have a heart to heart with him. Thats all.

[kat]

He will sit on the fence and vote present.
See how it pans out before saying anything

Yep! He's an unabashed COWARD.

[NightTrain]

Really? Rumsfeld must be back.

strange that 0bama would listen to him, huh?

Maybe he can blame it on TOTUS...

[wildcat87]

Interesting how you folks had the same mindset when Osama Bin Laden declared war on the United States too....

You'll notice the OP and then I advise you check a map to see if we're still on it

[spinach]

0bama threatened to invade South Korea in retaliation....


no he will bomb Pock ee stin, because NK appears to be a threat.
He always bombs the wrong country.

crack fits do that to a chickenhawk

[CrusaderFrank]

You'll notice the OP and then I advise you check a map to see if we're still on it

Yeah! What's the worst that could happen if we let some nut hand nuclear weapons to suicide bombers?

[PSYOP]

Not to worry, "the administration" will issue a letter to the opposing party. "The administration" will let the opposing party know that they should not use such harsh language because it is not nice as it sounds kind of "cowboy-ish" and then "the administration" will ensure that the opposing party knows that the real reason they are mad at us is because of BOOOOOOOSH. :whistle:

It won't be long before we hear the administration telling us that they inherited this problem from Bush.

[hailreagan]

And in other news, Woodie Allen threatened to, "mop the floor" with Mike Tyson.


Ok that was funny.

[tnt]

Interesting how you folks had the same mindset when Osama Bin Laden declared war on the United States too....

What folks?

the folks that set up a task force dedicated to watching OBL and AQ, then passed taht info on, including a memo titled "Plans to attack tall buildings with jet liners (or something like that)" to the incoming administration?

Or some other folks?

[AZslim]

And in other news, Woodie Allen threatened to, "mop the floor" with Mike Tyson.

:))

[spinach]

the liberal way will be to just let NK make these statements, and then let them arm up with nukes.

I hope the liberals will keep on smiling when this dirtbag finally uses one, or does a land grab, and then sits on his nuke aces in the hole.


Common sense says you do not sit idly by and let a madman acquire nukes.
He WILL USE THEM. Liberals are not known for common sense-- they are known for giving evil regimes nuclear materials.

such as China, and NK.

[tnt]

Yeah! What's the worst that could happen if we let some nut hand nuclear weapons to suicide bombers?


...or if we don't kill the leader of our known enemy. AQ, and let him set up shop in a nuclear armed country sypathetic to him and his cause....

What was that talking point? OBL is just one man. Right?

[croupier101]

the liberal way will be to just let NK make these statements, and then let them arm up with nukes.

I hope the liberals will keep on smiling when this dirtbag finally uses one, or does a land grab, and then sits on his nuke aces in the hole.


Common sense says you do not sit idly by and let a madman acquire nukes.
He WILL USE THEM. Liberals are not known for common sense-- they are known for giving evil regimes nuclear materials.

such as China, and NK.

Conservatives don't have a very good record of figuring out and telling the rest of us who has nukes and where they are.

[wildcat87]

Yeah! What's the worst that could happen if we let some nut hand nuclear weapons to suicide bombers?

you act as if Obama has a memo on his desk titled "North Korean Terrorists Determined to Attack US using Nukes on Boats" on his desk or something

[CrusaderFrank]

the liberal way will be to just let NK make these statements, and then let them arm up with nukes.

I hope the liberals will keep on smiling when this dirtbag finally uses one, or does a land grab, and then sits on his nuke aces in the hole.


Common sense says you do not sit idly by and let a madman acquire nukes.
He WILL USE THEM. Liberals are not known for common sense-- they are known for giving evil regimes nuclear materials.

such as China, and NK.

Sink the ****ing ship, pick up the crew, ask questions later

[CrusaderFrank]

you act as if Obama has a memo on his desk titled "North Korean Terrorists Determined to Attack US using Nukes on Boats" on his desk or something

Another unanswerable question:

On 9/11 at what point would you have ordered the USAF to fire on off course and fully loaded US Commercial airliners?

[spinach]

What folks?

the folks that set up a task force dedicated to watching OBL and AQ, then passed taht info on, including a memo titled "Plans to attack tall buildings with jet liners (or something like that)" to the incoming administration?

Or some other folks?


to save yourself embarrasment--
go find the real memo and then correct yourself.

the threat was "using aircraft against unspecified targets"

:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Gee now how wide of a range does that open up?
and how good is that intel, when the liberal created "Gorelick wall" prevented any intel sharing??

yep, liberals gave the green light for 9-11 to happen.
they made it easy for the terrorists to succeed.

Same as now.

[wildcat87]

the liberal way will be to just let NK make these statements, and then let them arm up with nukes.

I hope the liberals will keep on smiling when this dirtbag finally uses one, or does a land grab, and then sits on his nuke aces in the hole.


Common sense says you do not sit idly by and let a madman acquire nukes.
He WILL USE THEM. Liberals are not known for common sense-- they are known for giving evil regimes nuclear materials.

such as China, and NK.

NK got nukes under Bush 43, FYI

[tnt]

the liberal way will be to just let NK make these statements, and then let them arm up with nukes.

I hope the liberals will keep on smiling when this dirtbag finally uses one, or does a land grab, and then sits on his nuke aces in the hole.


Common sense says you do not sit idly by and let a madman acquire nukes.
He WILL USE THEM. Liberals are not known for common sense-- they are known for giving evil regimes nuclear materials.

such as China, and NK.


So Iran and NK's advances in nuke weapons over the last 8 years....how should we spin that so it's the fault of the stinking liberals?

[PSYOP]

Why is the US the only navy tracking this N. Korean vessel? Why can't obomba convince the rest of the world to take a leading role and track it with us?

[wildcat87]

Another unanswerable question:

On 9/11 at what point would you have ordered the USAF to fire on off course and fully loaded US Commercial airliners?

are you sure there aren't steps we could have taken between the time that memo came out in the Summer before they got on the planes?

Unless you're saying there is no way to completely prevent a terrorist attack?

[tnt]

to save yourself embarrasment--
go find the real memo and then correct yourself.

the threat was "using aircraft against unspecified targets"

:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Gee now how wide of a range does that open up?
and how good is that intel, when the liberal created "Gorelick wall" prevented any intel sharing??

yep, liberals gave the green light for 9-11 to happen.
they made it easy for the terrorists to succeed.

Same as now.


How good is that intel if your sec. state won't meet with teh task force to hear it?

[CrusaderFrank]

NK got nukes under Bush 43, FYI

They were part of the Axis of Evil, remember?

How'd that Agreed Framework work out for us?

[PSBandit]

Will BHO invite Kim over for BBQ on the Fourth too?

[PSYOP]

NK got nukes under Bush 43, FYI

I wonder why Europe let this happen while they were taking their leading role in the world?

[spinach]

Another unanswerable question:

On 9/11 at what point would you have ordered the USAF to fire on off course and fully loaded US Commercial airliners?

true.
until you can confirm a hijack, it's just an off course airliner.

for all the control towers know, the airliner's radio is down, and has serious control problems. That does happen.

the only way you can fire on the airliners is if you:

a. know they are hijacked
b. know they intend to hit a building
c. get presidential approval to fire

[wildcat87]

Another unanswerable question:

On 9/11 at what point would you have ordered the USAF to fire on off course and fully loaded US Commercial airliners?

BTW- I don't know if you got the memo, but Presidents aren't on the hook to protect the US until September 12 of the first year of their first term.

[hailreagan]

So let me get this straight my liberal friends........

ignore them, wait for something to happen............what's your plan

[spinach]

So Iran and NK's advances in nuke weapons over the last 8 years....how should we spin that so it's the fault of the stinking liberals?


Clinton gave NK nuke technology, and China as well.

as far as Iran goes, there is no way any liberal would ever consider letting Bush do anything directly to stop Iran. the liberal whined like little babies when their favorite dictator, Saddam Hussein [mr. sunshine] was being kicked around by Bush.

you must actually think that the rest of us forget history, just because YOU do.
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[CrusaderFrank]

Probably in the 7 minutes that I wasn't staring (s##t scared) at school kids asking questions and actually did my job. That's when.

You would have shot down every off course US Commerical airliner before of after the first plane hit?

You think it's confidence inspiring to have the President of the US running screaming like a little girl, "ARRRR! We're under attack!"

[wildcat87]

true.
until you can confirm a hijack, it's just an off course airliner.

for all the control towers know, the airliner's radio is down, and has serious control problems. That does happen.

the only way you can fire on the airliners is if you:

a. know they are hijacked
b. know they intend to hit a building
c. get presidential approval to fire

If only we had had some warning

[croupier101]

So Iran and NK's advances in nuke weapons over the last 8 years....how should we spin that so it's the fault of the stinking liberals?

Blame Clinton probably, or just ignore your post. :)

Maybe NK and Iran only started on their nuke programs 5 months ago, right when Bush left office.

[Ingator]

The tensions with North Korea and Iran has got to be a sore point for the "can't we just get along" crowd.

And here you thought it was all because of George Bush that we had problems with other nations.

But now a cold stark reality stares in on your misguided world view.

And the worse thing about it, the person who was elected to calm the windy world seas,
doesn't have a clue what to do.

[hailreagan]

BTW- I don't know if you got the memo, but Presidents aren't on the hook to protect the US until September 12 of the first year of their first term.


Nor are they on the hook to take out Osama Bin Laden when they have him in their sights..Clinton, I mean wildcat

[CrusaderFrank]

BTW- I don't know if you got the memo, but Presidents aren't on the hook to protect the US until September 12 of the first year of their first term.

Ignoring the first WTC attack in 93, treating it like it was some kids starting a garbage can fire sure worked out great for us

[croupier101]

Ignoring the first WTC attack in 93, treating it like it was some kids starting a garbage can fire sure worked out great for us

Actually catching the people who commited the attack is considered ignoring. we should have invaded a random country that had no involvement.

[Darkscream]

BTW- I don't know if you got the memo, but Presidents aren't on the hook to protect the US until September 12 of the first year of their first term.



Boooosh and Cheney were really busy though - they could only do one thing at a time and that day was designated school kid question day.

[wildcat87]

Clinton gave NK nuke technology, and China as well.

as far as Iran goes, there is no way any liberal would ever consider letting Bush do anything directly to stop Iran. the liberal whined like little babies when their favorite dictator, Saddam Hussein [mr. sunshine] was being kicked around by Bush.

you must actually think that the rest of us forget history, just because YOU do.
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

I'm pretty sure Saddam was actually Reagan's favorite dictator... well, after Marcos maybe

[animalnut]

North Korea threatened Wednesday to wipe the United States off the map as Washington and its allies watched for signs the regime will launch a series of missiles in the coming days.

Off China's coast, a U.S. destroyer was tailing a North Korean ship suspected of transporting illicit weapons to Myanmar in what could be the first test of U.N. sanctions passed to punish the nation for an underground nuclear test last month.

The Kang Nam left the North Korean port of Nampo a week ago with the USS John S. McCain close behind. The ship, accused of transporting banned goods in the past, is believed bound for Myanmar, according to South Korean and U.S. officials.

The new U.N. Security Council resolution requires member states to seek permission to inspect suspicious cargo. North Korea has said it would consider interception a declaration of war and on Wednesday accused the U.S. of seeking to provoke another Korean War.

"If the U.S. imperialists start another war, the army and people of Korea will ... wipe out the aggressors on the globe once and for all," the official Korean Central News Agency said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090624/ap_on_re_as/as_koreas_nuclear

Someone needs medication and a reality check

Interesting Obama never mentioned N. Korea in his presser.

Since it took him over 10 days to take a strong stand on the violence in Iran, maybe he wants to wait and see if this goes away before he addresses their aggressiveness.

[BigGuy]

So Iran and NK's advances in nuke weapons over the last 8 years....how should we spin that so it's the fault of the stinking liberals?

Well, you can lay the NK's huge technological leap directly at the feet of Clinton. As for the last 20 years, we can blame both parties for being spinless and deferring to the UN's "expertise" and "experience" at dealing with such matters. Sheesh, we would have been better getting the 3 Stooges to fix the problem.

[PSYOP]

So let me get this straight my liberal friends........

ignore them, wait for something to happen............what's your plan

The liberal plan is to sit by waiting on the rest of the world to take a leading role on the problem which never occurs. They then kick into action and obomba gives a speech which amounts to nothing. They then run to the UN and draft another meaningless resolution on top of the other 20 that never get enforeced and N. Korea continues doing as it pleases.

[hailreagan]

So Libs...............what is your plan. Try to come up with something through your sarcasm.

[Darkscream]

You would have shot down every off course US Commerical airliner before of after the first plane hit?

You think it's confidence inspiring to have the President of the US running screaming like a little girl, "ARRRR! We're under attack!"



That would have beat being too cowardly to do anything but soil your pants.

Boooosh.....yeah what a winner.

[hailreagan]

Well, you can lay the NK's huge technological leap directly at the feet of Clinton. As for the last 20 years, we can blame both parties for being sninless and deferring to the UN's "expertise" and "experience" at dealing with such matters. Sheesh, we would have been better getting the 3 Stooges to fix the problem.


(I know) I just want to hear them say it !

[tnt]

Clinton gave NK nuke technology, and China as well.

as far as Iran goes, there is no way any liberal would ever consider letting Bush do anything directly to stop Iran. the liberal whined like little babies when their favorite dictator, Saddam Hussein [mr. sunshine] was being kicked around by Bush.

you must actually think that the rest of us forget history, just because YOU do.
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

You are getting all tangled up in your talking points.

The dems supported invading Iraq...remember? You guys quote them over and over again every time someone suggests the adventure was a mistake.

[mrclean]

Torpedo late at night very quietly.

No hoopla.

[kat]

Interesting Obama never mentioned N. Korea in his presser.

Since it took him over 10 days to take a strong stand on the violence in Iran, maybe he wants to wait and see if this goes away before he addresses their aggressiveness.

Nor did he mention Afganistan, the surge or the Troops. he wasn't asked about them either. Must have been part of the pre-arranged deal with the media.

[wildcat87]

The liberal plan is to sit by waiting on the rest of the world to take a leading role on the problem which never occurs. They then kick into action and obomba gives a speech which amounts to nothing. They then run to the UN and draft another meaningless resolution on top of the other 20 that never get enforeced and N. Korea continues doing as it pleases.

or we send a destroyer to shadow North Korean boats

[hailreagan]

That would have beat being too cowardly to do anything but crap your pants.

Boooosh.....yeah what a winner.


OOOH That Obama is not a coward. He is so strong ........wait a minute.........


HE IS A TOTAL PANSY WHO CAN"T EVEN STICK UP FOR PROTESTERS!!!

[Bertha]

So Libs...............what is your plan. Try to come up with something through your sarcasm.

You can't defend the indefensible.

Hmmm....perhaps that's the plan?

[tnt]

Blame Clinton probably, or just ignore your post. :)

Maybe NK and Iran only started on their nuke programs 5 months ago, right when Bush left office.

Yeah, spinanch blamed clinton. Then he suggested NOT invading Iran was the fault of the weak kneed libs in congress, forgetting the Talk Radio Conservtaive Talking Point that the dems were FOR invading IRaq.....

What a place, this Hannity Land....

[hailreagan]

or we send a destroyer to shadow North Korean boats


shadow them and do what..........? just shadow or stop the ship?

[tnt]

Ignoring the first WTC attack in 93, treating it like it was some kids starting a garbage can fire sure worked out great for us

How many of those responsible for the first WTC bombings are at large within 100 miles of a nuclear armed mulsim country with a population sympathetic to their cause?

Just curious.

[Camp]

NK got nukes under Bush 43, FYI


Madelaine Half-bright gave them the keys in the Clinton years.

[Bertha]

Yeah, spinanch blamed clinton. Then he suggested NOT invading Iran was the fault of the weak kneed libs in congress, forgetting the Talk Radio Conservtaive Talking Point that the dems were FOR invading IRaq.....

What a place, this Hannity Land....

So, why didn't Clinton take Bin Laden when he had him handed to him on a silver platter?

You would think that liberals would of jumped on the moment because they consider national security a law enforcement action rather than by military force.

[spinach]

You are getting all tangled up in your talking points.

The dems supported invading Iraq...remember? You guys quote them over and over again every time someone suggests the adventure was a mistake.


they supported it BEFORE an election.
afterward, they wanted to disown their vote-
and they pretty much as a party went treasonous.

you seem to want to rewrite history.

the FACTS:

bush wanted to take action.
the democrats said "you need congress approval"
Bush said "fine. Give me a resolution today, before the election"
the democrats put on their hawk outfits, to deceive voters. they gave Bush what he wanted
election came and went
Democrats took off their hawk outfits, and went right back to being the treasonous scum they always were, and constantly whining about Iraq, and about Bush going in.

put that in your liberal pipe and smoke it.

[timjy]

Where is dubya when you need him. We need a place to dump our nuke waste push the button and make north korea a parking lot.Obama would have a place to park all his vehicles from his new car company.

[Camp]

The tensions with North Korea and Iran has got to be a sore point for the "can't we just get along" crowd.

And here you thought it was all because of George Bush that we had problems with other nations.

But now a cold stark reality stares in on your misguided world view.

And the worse thing about it, the person who was elected to calm the windy world seas,
doesn't have a clue what to do.

Ouch. That one was right in the solar plexis.

[spinach]

Madelaine Half-bright gave them the keys in the Clinton years.
the liberals want to forget the truth and to forget history.

clinton also gave advance tech to China.
FREE.

the liberals seem to love coddling evil regimes that want to kill americans.
even saddam had the liberals as a valuable ally.

[wildcat87]

shadow them and do what..........? just shadow or stop the ship?

we shall see

[nortman]

They were part of the Axis of Evil, remember?

How'd that Agreed Framework work out for us?:think:
Wasn't there a little uproar about that reference after Dubya said it? I seem to recall some lefties on the tube seeming to be irate because of Bush saying that.

[gb2004]

This little wackjob is extremely dangerous. I don't expect Obama to do or say anything about this until the world starts weighing in on it. It wouldn't surprise me if Obama's willing to give him the first one, then act. And THAT's scary. (I truly hope I'm wrong on that one.)

I'm afraid you're right.

[wildcat87]

the liberals want to forget the truth and to forget history.

clinton also gave advance tech to China.
FREE.

the liberals seem to love coddling evil regimes that want to kill americans.
even saddam had the liberals as a valuable ally.

Reagan, Rumsfeld and Cheney are libs?

I think we should all agree Presidents inherit problems from the past and call it a day, hmm?

[DRS]

Where is dubya when you need him. We need a place to dump our nuke waste push the button and make north korea a parking lot.Obama would have a place to park all his vehicles from his new car company.

What about the effects on South Korea?

[wildcat87]

where is dubya when you need him. We need a place to dump our nuke waste push the button and make north korea a parking lot.obama would have a place to park all his vehicles from his new car company.

yes let's!!!

[spinach]

So, why didn't Clinton take Bin Laden when he had him handed to him on a silver platter?

You would think that liberals would of jumped on the moment because they consider national security a law enforcement action rather than by military force.


but clinton turrrrrrryed so haaaaaard......
he really turrrrryyyyed....

:))

the liberals ALWAYS mess things up. They cannot do anything right.
it's a part of the charter to be a liberal.

[tnt]

they supported it BEFORE an election.
afterward, they wanted to disown their vote-
and they pretty much as a party went treasonous.

you seem to want to rewrite history.

the FACTS:

bush wanted to take action.
the democrats said "you need congress approval"
Bush said "fine. Give me a resolution today, before the election"
the democrats put on their hawk outfits, to deceive voters. they gave Bush what he wanted
election came and went
Democrats took off their hawk outfits, and went right back to being the treasonous scum they always were, and constantly whining about Iraq, and about Bush going in.

put that in your liberal pipe and smoke it.


Oh.

So they did support IRaq?

But you said they would NEVER support invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 like Iran.

Which is it?

If your brilliant man Bush could bambozzle them into Iraq (as you suggested he did) why couldn't he fool them into invading IRan as well?

[STEEL]

Another unanswerable question:

On 9/11 at what point would you have ordered the USAF to fire on off course and fully loaded US Commercial airliners?

Every morning I would have all of them shot down.

Also...I would overreact to each and every threat that is put on my desk.

That way...Michael Moore would love me and not make a stupid movie about it.

[spinach]

Oh.

So they did support IRaq?

But you said they would NEVER support invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 like Iran.

Which is it?

If your brilliant man Bush could bambozzle them into Iraq (as you suggested he did) why couldn't he fool them into invading IRan as well?


they didn't support the iraq invasion-- they supported getting VOTES.
you just don't want to admit that the sole reason the dems voted for the Iraq war, was because it was right before mid term elections.

the democrat scum went right back to their treasonous ways right after the election.
quit trying--
you can't win.
you can't rewrite the liberal track record.

:))

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

North Korea threatened Wednesday to wipe the United States off the map as Washington and its allies watched for signs the regime will launch a series of missiles in the coming days.

Off China's coast, a U.S. destroyer was tailing a North Korean ship suspected of transporting illicit weapons to Myanmar in what could be the first test of U.N. sanctions passed to punish the nation for an underground nuclear test last month.

The Kang Nam left the North Korean port of Nampo a week ago with the USS John S. McCain close behind. The ship, accused of transporting banned goods in the past, is believed bound for Myanmar, according to South Korean and U.S. officials.

The new U.N. Security Council resolution requires member states to seek permission to inspect suspicious cargo. North Korea has said it would consider interception a declaration of war and on Wednesday accused the U.S. of seeking to provoke another Korean War.

"If the U.S. imperialists start another war, the army and people of Korea will ... wipe out the aggressors on the globe once and for all," the official Korean Central News Agency said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090624/ap_on_re_as/as_koreas_nuclear

Someone needs medication and a reality check

I hope no one actually believes this nonsense. We could destroy North Korea in about forty minutes flat.

[RedStatePaPa]

Someone is begging to made an example of.

[STEEL]

You are getting all tangled up in your talking points.

The dems supported invading Iraq...remember? You guys quote them over and over again every time someone suggests the adventure was a mistake.

Actually no.

He is simply getting the timing of the hypocrites tangled.

The democratics were for the invasion before they were against it.

Are you somehow trying to deny the quotes?

[STEEL]

Yeah, spinanch blamed clinton. Then he suggested NOT invading Iran was the fault of the weak kneed libs in congress, forgetting the Talk Radio Conservtaive Talking Point that the dems were FOR invading IRaq.....

What a place, this Hannity Land....

Maybe you should explain to him how there are quotes and soundbites from the democratics saying one thing and then doing a complete 180 when a new President is sworn in.

i would love to hear it.

To add to the challenge...try doing it without using the word "hypocrite".

It just cannot be done.

[Bertha]

I hope no one actually believes this nonsense. We could destroy North Korea in about forty minutes flat.

Not with the current white house resident. It would take a minimum of 72 hours to issue a response of some pathetic sort.

[tnt]

Actually no.

He is simply getting the timing of the hypocrites tangled.

The democratics were for the invasion before they were against it.

Are you somehow trying to deny the quotes?


So the dems voted FOR Iraq and this is pointed out when it's convinient.

But then, he claims the Dems would never vote FOR invading IRan....

So which is it?

If they were stupid enough to vote for Iraq, why wouldn't they vote to invade IRan as well?

Can't have it both ways.

They are either jack asses who voted for a stupid war.

Or they are peace-nik troop haters.

But they can't be both.

[treadmill]

Look folks, isn't it about time we re-positioned the Death Star over NK?

[spinach]

Actually no.

He is simply getting the timing of the hypocrites tangled.

The democratics were for the invasion before they were against it.

Are you somehow trying to deny the quotes?


no, I got it right.

the democrats opposed action in Iraq, from the beginning.
they wanted Bush to get congressional approval
So Bush said "fine. give me a vote, before the election"

and instantly the democrats became hawks. imagine that.

and they stayed hawks until the election was over-
they went right back to undermining the war and trashing our troops.
same old liberals.

they only gave Bush his vote because it was political suicide to not do so, right before an election

[timjy]

Not with the current white house resident. It would take a minimum of 72 hours to issue a response of some pathetic sort.
Thanks to biden we would know where to find them hiding .

[TCUFan]

I seem to remember telling you guys that the McCain wasn't going to actually DO anything.

TCUFan

[StoneScratcher]

NK got nukes under Bush 43, FYI

North Korea sent Scud missiles to Iran in the late 1980s and early 1990s. But from the mid-1990s, under pressure from Washington, Pyongyang was believed to have stopped shipments of whole missiles and limited its assistance to supplying parts and expertise to help build weapons in Iran.

If the U.S. and Asian officials are correct, North Korea has restarted exports to Iran of complete weapons. The SS-N-6-based missiles also represent a technological leap from earlier Iranian and North Korean arms, with a propulsion system capable of lofting heavier loads over longer distances, U.S. officials say.

North Korean technicians are stationed in Iran to help Tehran build missiles, and the two countries share data gleaned from test launches, U.S. officials say.

Wall Street Journal
July 6, 2006
Pg. 4
Pyongyang Deepens Tehran Ties With Suspected Arms Exports
By Gordon Fairclough

[STEEL]

So the dems voted FOR Iraq and this is pointed out when it's convinient.

But then, he claims the Dems would never vote FOR invading IRan....

So which is it?

If they were stupid enough to vote for Iraq, why wouldn't they vote to invade IRan as well?

Can't have it both ways.

They are either jack asses who voted for a stupid war.

Or they are peace-nik troop haters.

But they can't be both.

They absolutely can and they are.

It is called hypocracy.

Democratics live and die by it.

For example: hero Obama

Please do us all a favor....look up the definition of hypocrite...look up the quotes from the democratics (during the Clinton presidency, during the lead up to the invasion of Iraq and post invasion)...then apply what you just learned about what a hypocrite is.

It should be fun as well as enlightening.

Maybe they you will refrain from trying to make a point by using the jumbled mess that is the democratic thought process.

[STEEL]

After watching North Korea develop Nukes for 8 years I guess it's Obama's fault?
Of course, not a thread goes by without the 'blame Obama' crowd chiming in.

Cheney has stated we need to take fast action against this threat by invading Venezuela, I wonder what that's all about?

Didn't NK suspend their nuke program?

[tnt]

Maybe you should explain to him how there are quotes and soundbites from the democratics saying one thing and then doing a complete 180 when a new President is sworn in.

i would love to hear it.

To add to the challenge...try doing it without using the word "hypocrite".

It just cannot be done.


That's all well and good, but if you accept the notion that the dems voted for stupid stuff, then argued against it, how can you make the case that they wouldn't have voted for some different stupid thing - like invading Iran?

Which is how this particular argument started.

Spincah suggested there is no way Bush could have taken care of IRan correctly because the weak kneed dems would have stymied him....

I am simply pointing out that they weak kneed dems some how supported an equally stupid idea - invading Iraq - so why should we think they wouldn't be up for a two-fer?

[cj234]

they supported it BEFORE an election.
afterward, they wanted to disown their vote-
and they pretty much as a party went treasonous.

you seem to want to rewrite history.

the FACTS:

bush wanted to take action.
the democrats said "you need congress approval"
Bush said "fine. Give me a resolution today, before the election"
the democrats put on their hawk outfits, to deceive voters. they gave Bush what he wanted
election came and went
Democrats took off their hawk outfits, and went right back to being the treasonous scum they always were, and constantly whining about Iraq, and about Bush going in.

put that in your liberal pipe and smoke it.


They really seem to forget the facts! Truth is, they are full of "PRIDE." And we all know by history "PRIDE COMETH BEFORE THE FALL!"

[LibertyinAtl]

NK is just a tiny little country...
No threat to the US at all...

[XTankLt]

Originally Posted by croupier101
invade.

Alright, who are you and what have you done with Croup?



:)) :)) :))

Best comeback of the day!

[Ingator]

And what happens if North Korea were too transfer a few of these weapons to Venezuela?

[StoneScratcher]

Although the October 1994 agreed framework with North Korea over its nuclear facilities mitigated the immediate nuclear threat, Pyongyang still possesses an unnecessarily large conventional force, as well as militarily significant chemical weapons and the means to deliver them.

Proliferation,particularly the broad-based nuclear, biological and chemical weapons and missile programs North Korea has implemented, poses a significant chal-lenge to U.S. security interests as well as to those of our allies and friends.

In the event of another war on the Korean Peninsula, these weapons present a significant threat to our forces and the security of our allies.

Should a conflict occur, North Korea likely will try to consolidate and control strategic areas of South Korea by striking quickly and attempting to destroy allied defenses before the United States can provide adequate reinforcements.

Pyongyang hopes to do this with its large conventional force and its chemical weapons and ballistic missiles complement.

From the DoD report"Proliferation: Threat and Response,"released April 1996

Iran first acquired Scud-B ballistic missiles from Libya and North Korea and used them during the Iran-Iraq war. Later it received Scud-B and Scud-C missiles from North Korea, and CSS-8 missiles and other material from China.

Iran fired nearly 100 Scud-B missiles at Iraq from 1985 to 1988. As was the case with chemical weapons,Iran's motivation to improve and expand its ballistic missile force results from the war with Iraq, during which Iran could not respond adequately to Iraqi missile attackson Iranian cities.

Iran has a two-track ballistic missile program. In addition to acquiring Scud missiles and missile-related equipment from North Korea, it also seeks to establish its own missile production capability.

Its production program is planned for both liquid-fueled and solid-propellant missiles.As part of the process, Iran has already begun assembling missiles using foreign-made components, and eventually it may produce these components domestically. Further, it is actively attempting to acquire other assistance and missile-related technology from a variety of foreign sources for its goal of producing a medium range ballistic missile.

With its current inventory of missiles, Iran can strike targets in neighboring countries, including oil installations and ports in Saudi Arabia. With a longer-range missile, such as the North Korean Nodong,it would be able to strike targets in Israeland in most of Saudi Arabia and Turkey.

Iran has Chinese land-based and shipborne anti-ship cruise missiles and Russian air-to-surface missiles, and it has experience in employing some of them in combat conditions.
During the Iran-Iraq war, for example, Iran fired at least 10 coastal-based Chinese missiles at Kuwait,one hitting a U.S.-flagged oil tanker.

Iran will continue to rely on China as its cruise missile supplier. In addition, Iran has artillery and aircraft that can deliver chemical and biological agents and Russian-made Su-24 fighter-bombers that could deliver nuclear weapons.

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