What is your favorite Bourbon?

[Samm]

Fairly recently I have reacquainted myself with Bourbon. I used to drink it on rare occasion when I was much younger, but since I drank the cheap stuff, I had to mix it to make it palatable. (I was, and still am, particularly fond of Manhattans.) After watching a History Channel show on Bourbons and Scotch I became curious about top shelf Bourbons and, as to be expected, I found that they are far better neat or on rocks than the Bourbon of my youth.

My greatest curiosity was about Knob Creek (I think it is the machine gun thing... ;) ) but the first liquor store I was shopping at wanted $53 a bottle for it so I bought a half pint of Jim Beam Black instead. Not bad, but the Knob Creek had to be better, right? Wrong... turns out the JBB was smoother and gave me that residual warm feeling whereas the KC ( at $44) although excellent, burned a bit going down.

I was turned on to Bulliet by my "future" son-in-law and found it noticeably better than the JBB, but of course at a higher price (albeit less than the KC) and probably worth the cost difference. Still, I think the JBB is an excellent value.

What Bourbon do you all favor? And for what characteristics? I cannot afford to buy a bottle of each top brand to test taste and have no desire to drink that much whiskey, particularly if I do not find a particular brand to my liking. My preference is for a full bodied slightly sweet drink that gives that "warming" sensation, as opposed to the sharper finish that the Knob Creek provides.

I have been eyeing Maker's Mark, Bakers, Henry Mckenna, Woodford Reserve and Elijah Craig as possibilities, but would appreciate any experience you can pass on.

[zerk]

I've been a knob creek manhattan drinker since I was a minor. (a decade)

[zerk]

I had Four Roses when I was in Barcelona and it was top notch.

[CID_0687]

Mostly what I drink is bourbon and Tennessee Whiskey...and when I say Tennessee Whiskey I don't mean that overrated Jack Daniels ****.

It depends on my budget.

George Dickel Tennessee Whiskey, I can get a liter for $22...very smooth, not as sweet as Jack Daniels.

Maker's Mark is very smooth, liter is around $35 here...

Woodford Reserve is a bit more pricey around $50 a liter but man is it worth it.

Definitely try the Maker's and Woodford you'll enjoy them...neither are as harsh as Jim Beam...I have to cut JB with Coke or water...Maker's and Woodford I'll just pour over ice.

If you like Tennessee Whiskey give George Dickel a try too...cheaper than JD, and has a superior flavor.

[LouC]

What is your favorite Boubon?

Boubon?

I don't remember what mine was, since I haven't had any in 7 or 8 years, but I think I'll have a little of whatever you are having Samm. :))

[Samm]

What is your favorite Boubon?

Boubon?

I don't remember what mine was, since I haven't had any in 7 or 8 years, but I think I'll have a little of whatever you are having Samm. :))

:redface: :))

Hmmm... Google's spell checker must think that is a word... :think:

[Fire Watch]

Gentleman Jack.

http://www.gentlemanjack.com/Default.aspx

[mrclean]

Jack Daniels.

But when I'm in an extravagant mood, I'll buy a bottle of Makers Mark.

[Samm]

Mostly what I drink is bourbon and Tennessee Whiskey...and when I say Tennessee Whiskey I don't mean that overrated Jack Daniels ****.

It depends on my budget.

George Dickel Tennessee Whiskey, I can get a liter for $22...very smooth, not as sweet as Jack Daniels.

Maker's Mark is very smooth, liter is around $35 here...

Woodford Reserve is a bit more pricey around $50 a liter but man is it worth it.

Definitely try the Maker's and Woodford you'll enjoy them...neither are as harsh as Jim Beam...I have to cut JB with Coke or water...Maker's and Woodford I'll just pour over ice.

If you like Tennessee Whiskey give George Dickel a try too...cheaper than JD, and has a superior flavor.

Looks like Maker's will be next on my list. Don't believe I have seen George Dickel here locally, but I will keep an eye out for it. Thanks.

[Samm]

Jack Daniels.

But when I'm in an extravagant mood, I'll buy a bottle of Makers Mark.

I have tried the JD Black Label ... can't say I care for it all that much. Too sharp. I like the Beam a lot better. Maybe I'd like one of their more select (pricier) products.

[BillBrown]

Old Grand-Dad

[Samm]

Gentleman Jack.

http://www.gentlemanjack.com/Default.aspx

I'll give it another try if you would do me the great favor of inserting the "r" in the correct place in the title of my thread. ;)


Can't figure out how that happened... the spell checker highlights "boubon" in the text, but it apparently did not in the title. I know I spell checked before launching this thread... :think:

[LouC]

Dang, I was looking around the net trying to remember what I used to like, man there are some wonderful looking bourbons out there I never heard of that sound downright scrumptious.

Almost for a brief moment thought about taking up drinking again.

George T. Stagg

Known as the “granddaddy of bourbons” for its insanely high proof (do NOT do shots of this. I am serious.) and multiple awards. The Stagg, which is aged for 15 years and bottled unfiltered (you'll notice a cloudiness) has achieved cult status among bourbon drinkers worldwide. Opening a bottle of this will impress any connoisseur.

Tastes Like: Dark chocolate, roasted coffee beans, rich oak

Proof: 141.8

Most Similar To: Booker’s

Price: $60

[Quid]

Jim Beam, with a splash of sweet vermouth, and a dash of Angostura Bitters.

ah, my beloved Manhattan.

[jimjames418]

I have tried the JD Black Label ... can't say I care for it all that much. Too sharp. I like the Beam a lot better. Maybe I'd like one of their more select (pricier) products.
Could never no fishing without a pint of Four Roses in the pocket. Seems it made the fish bite. ;)

Straight Bourbon dot com has a message board kind of like this one for those who enjoy a good drink every once in a while. Seems like an interesting place to visit.

[mryukon]

Samm, I am enjoying the last of a bottle of Woodford Reserve. I like to drink it over one ice cube, about 2 fingers is good. It is smoothe, faintly sweet with a nice caramelly, woody finish. As a bonus, it makes your head a little warm. I pay around $32 per bottle, which is fair value.

You can visit them here: http://www.woodfordreserve.com/

Enjoy.

[Cav Scout]

Makers Mark
Knob Creek
Bulliet
Woodford Reserve I don't mind if I am having a sweet tooth day.

All good.

[mryukon]

Woodford has a marked sweetness compared to MM or Knob Creek. Each of these are great as a sipping bourbon.

[GA_LP]

Maker's Mark - no question.

[CID_0687]

Looks like Maker's will be next on my list. Don't believe I have seen George Dickel here locally, but I will keep an eye out for it. Thanks.
Dickel is made on a smaller scale...a lot of states won't bring it in because it cost so much to have it shipped, but if you run across some get it...or you can always order online, if you really want to give it a shot. (cheap pun)

[CID_0687]

Jack Daniels.

But when I'm in an extravagant mood, I'll buy a bottle of Makers Mark.
Jack Daniels is Tennessee Whiskey, Maker's Mark is Bourbon...there's a difference.

Sorry, I'm being a purist...the difference is that Tennessee Whiskey is charcoal filtered...also Bourbon laws don't apply, that being at least 51% of the mash is corn.

[Cav Scout]

Jack Daniels is Tennessee Whiskey, Maker's Mark is Bourbon...there's a difference.

Sorry, I'm being a purist...the difference is that Tennessee Whiskey is charcoal filtered...also Bourbon laws don't apply, that being at least 51% of the mash is corn.

Be purist all you want, you are correct.

[PredFan]

I'm not too picky about my Bourbon. I'll enjoy anything that isn't rot gut. Usually any of the good brands are quite tasty. Most of the brands mentioned already make my mouth water!

[Samm]

Samm, I am enjoying the last of a bottle of Woodford Reserve. I like to drink it over one ice cube, about 2 fingers is good. It is smoothe, faintly sweet with a nice caramelly, woody finish. As a bonus, it makes your head a little warm. I pay around $32 per bottle, which is fair value.

You can visit them here: http://www.woodfordreserve.com/

Enjoy.

Sounds perfect... (nice bottle too... ;) ) I'll have to search for it.

Maybe I should just move to Kentucky for a year or so and try them all. ;)

[Samm]

Jack Daniels is Tennessee Whiskey, Maker's Mark is Bourbon...there's a difference.

Sorry, I'm being a purist...the difference is that Tennessee Whiskey is charcoal filtered...also Bourbon laws don't apply, that being at least 51% of the mash is corn.

That's what I thought... that Jack Daniels was not Bourbon... a lot of people have tried to tell me it is. It is good whisky for sure, but it just does not taste like Bourbon to me... it does not have that smoothness and warmth I am looking for in a fine whisky.

[CID_0687]

That's what I thought... that Jack Daniels was not Bourbon... a lot of people have tried to tell me it is. It is good whisky for sure, but it just does not taste like Bourbon to me... it does not have that smoothness and warmth I am looking for in a fine whisky.
If you're wanting smoothness you will really enjoy Maker's...One thing that set it apart is many of the distillers use rye in their mash...Jim Beam for example...it makes the whiskey harsher. Maker's uses Red Winter Wheat which gives it it's smoothness.

I'm by no means an aficionado on all things Bourbon...I just like to drink it, try different ones..Plus I worked in Kentucky for several months and got to go on a few distillery tours...Mostly I like to drink it though. :)

[EnchantedFrog]

Makers Mark is superb, and I've always had a fondness for Wild Turkey.
But my normal sippin' is Evan Williams (1783 label or Single Barrel).

[Chuangtzu]

MM. Good cooking uisge, too.

[mrclean]

Jack Daniels is Tennessee Whiskey, Maker's Mark is Bourbon...there's a difference.

Sorry, I'm being a purist...the difference is that Tennessee Whiskey is charcoal filtered...also Bourbon laws don't apply, that being at least 51% of the mash is corn.


See that, you learn something new everyday.

Thanks for the info.

[CID_0687]

See that, you learn something new everyday.

Thanks for the info.
Glad I could enabl, er I mean, be of assistance. ;)

[birddog1]

Fairly recently I have reacquainted myself with Bourbon. I used to drink it on rare occasion when I was much younger, but since I drank the cheap stuff, I had to mix it to make it palatable. (I was, and still am, particularly fond of Manhattans.) After watching a History Channel show on Bourbons and Scotch I became curious about top shelf Bourbons and, as to be expected, I found that they are far better neat or on rocks than the Bourbon of my youth.

My greatest curiosity was about Knob Creek (I think it is the machine gun thing... ;) ) but the first liquor store I was shopping at wanted $53 a bottle for it so I bought a half pint of Jim Beam Black instead. Not bad, but the Knob Creek had to be better, right? Wrong... turns out the JBB was smoother and gave me that residual warm feeling whereas the KC ( at $44) although excellent, burned a bit going down.

I was turned on to Bulliet by my "future" son-in-law and found it noticeably better than the JBB, but of course at a higher price (albeit less than the KC) and probably worth the cost difference. Still, I think the JBB is an excellent value.

What Bourbon do you all favor? And for what characteristics? I cannot afford to buy a bottle of each top brand to test taste and have no desire to drink that much whiskey, particularly if I do not find a particular brand to my liking. My preference is for a full bodied slightly sweet drink that gives that "warming" sensation, as opposed to the sharper finish that the Knob Creek provides.

I have been eyeing Maker's Mark, Bakers, Henry Mckenna, Woodford Reserve and Elijah Craig as possibilities, but would appreciate any experience you can pass on.

JB makes Knob Creek and if I am not mistaken they make it at the same facility that they make the regular JB brands.

Maker's Mark is my old stand by but I like Knob Creek on occasion. I have heard really nice things about Woodford Reserve but it is awfully pricey. By the way the same company that owns JB also owns Maker's Mark right now.

[mryukon]

I just like bourbon. Period. Of course some are better than others. Woodford Reserve is far and away my fave. MM is pretty good as well and around $25 per bottle, it's a good buy.

[captusa]

I had Four Roses when I was in Barcelona and it was top notch.

I have never heard of a Four Roses bourbon.
Four Roses has always been what is referred to as an American bar rye.
Actual whisky mixed with grain neutral spirits (vodka)
When I first read about bourbon it was defined as a whisky made from mash that is more than 50% corn and aged in new charred oak barrels for at least 4 years.
(I think the required age has been decreased)
I got this from a site called Straightbourbon FAQ.
Not all of their answers were completely accurate but this seems correct:
13. I am attempting to locate a distributor in the San Diego area for a product made by Joseph E Seagram and Sons Incorporated (Lawrenceburg, KY), that being Four Roses bourbon, and the above email address has been the ONLY one I have been able to locate for this company. Any help or suggestions you can offer will be greatly appreciated.
You can't. Four Roses Bourbon is not yet sold in the U.S. However, I am told by a reliable source, that Four Roses Bourbon will be available in Kentucky sometime this year.

[BrittleBullet]

Wild Turkey.

[captusa]

Jack Daniels is Tennessee Whiskey, Maker's Mark is Bourbon...there's a difference.

Sorry, I'm being a purist...the difference is that Tennessee Whiskey is charcoal filtered...also Bourbon laws don't apply, that being at least 51% of the mash is corn.

Bourbon is charcoal filtered (either Wellers or Maker's Mark adds an extra charcoal filtering step)
Jack Daniels is most likely a bourbon (and a damn good one) since it is unlikely that in the USA alcohol would be made from less than 51% corn for purely economic reasons.
Should there be a corn famine Jack Daniels would not have to change its name.

[CID_0687]

Bourbon is charcoal filtered (either Wellers or Maker's Mark adds an extra charcoal filtering step)
Jack Daniels is most likely a bourbon (and a damn good one) since it is unlikely that in the USA alcohol would be made from less than 51% corn for purely economic reasons.
Should there be a corn famine Jack Daniels would not have to change its name.
Is Jack Daniel's a bourbon?

Jack Daniel's is not a bourbon - it's a Tennessee Whiskey. Jack Daniel's is dripped slowly - drop-by-drop - through ten feet of firmly packed charcoal (made from hard sugar maple) before going into new charred oak barrels for aging. This special process gives Jack Daniel's Tennessee Whiskey its rare smoothness. It's this extra step - charcoal mellowing – that makes Jack Daniel's a Tennessee Whiskey.

http://www.jackdaniels.com/faq.aspx?terms=bourbon

Official website.

Jack Daniels doesn't claim to be a bourbon, and bourbon distiller's don't consider them one either.

[captusa]

Fairly recently I have reacquainted myself with Bourbon. I used to drink it on rare occasion when I was much younger, but since I drank the cheap stuff, I had to mix it to make it palatable. (I was, and still am, particularly fond of Manhattans.) After watching a History Channel show on Bourbons and Scotch I became curious about top shelf Bourbons and, as to be expected, I found that they are far better neat or on rocks than the Bourbon of my youth.

My greatest curiosity was about Knob Creek (I think it is the machine gun thing... ;) ) but the first liquor store I was shopping at wanted $53 a bottle for it so I bought a half pint of Jim Beam Black instead. Not bad, but the Knob Creek had to be better, right? Wrong... turns out the JBB was smoother and gave me that residual warm feeling whereas the KC ( at $44) although excellent, burned a bit going down.

I was turned on to Bulliet by my "future" son-in-law and found it noticeably better than the JBB, but of course at a higher price (albeit less than the KC) and probably worth the cost difference. Still, I think the JBB is an excellent value.

What Bourbon do you all favor? And for what characteristics? I cannot afford to buy a bottle of each top brand to test taste and have no desire to drink that much whiskey, particularly if I do not find a particular brand to my liking. My preference is for a full bodied slightly sweet drink that gives that "warming" sensation, as opposed to the sharper finish that the Knob Creek provides.

I have been eyeing Maker's Mark, Bakers, Henry Mckenna, Woodford Reserve and Elijah Craig as possibilities, but would appreciate any experience you can pass on.

I've been a bourbon drinker for many years.
I have not noticed anything special about the small batch bourbons that would justify the price difference.
I have tried Knob Creek and it is very good.
The Japanese have cornered the market on my favorite I.W.Harper Bonded.
Jack Daniels Black label is an excellent bourbon. A little heavy for me but great body and flavor.
There are 2 excellent bourbons that are great buys if you can find them.
Yellowstone is an light, smooth bourbon that is price no more than the average brands.
Whenever I am upstate (NY) I stock up on J.T.S.Brown bonded.
(Only the 86 is available in NYC and L.I.)
I would not rate it as the best but best for the price.
My uncle who was a solid bourbon drinker introduced it to me and it was often mentioned by Paul Newman in the Hustler and The Color of Money.

I reread your post.
I prefer lighter bourbon that is smooth but has some bite so my tastes would be different than yours.
I keep confusing Weller's and Maker's Mark.
One uses some malted barly in their mash and one has an extra filtering process.
The latter would fit you preferences but I don't remember with one it is.
Jim Beam is generally rounder, sweeter and smoother than most brands and may fit your tastes better than the small batch bourbons.
BTW Most of the distillers of bourbons are members of the Beam family.
Many for brands that I prefer to Jim Beam.

[curtis123]

Back in the day, it used to be Dack Janiels.

Made me 10 feet tall, bulletproof and powerful handsome. Instant stupid - just add whiskey. It encouraged me to pick a fight with an entire hotel staff in 1988. I still don't remember what exactly started it. Needless to say, I got my ass kicked and tossed out onto the snowbank outside. (I got in a few good ones, though) I haven't touched it since.

Haven't drank Dack Janiels, or any other hard booze in over 20 years, with the exception of a small glass of good brandy or cognac and the occaisional frosty beer on a hot day. Haven't been drunk in over 20 years since though.

Life's better that way.

[JimGP20]

You guys sound like such experts. I have never drank bourbon or any other whiskey in my 52+ years of life. :eek:

[captusa]

http://www.jackdaniels.com/faq.aspx?terms=bourbon

Official website.

Jack Daniels doesn't claim to be a bourbon, and bourbon distiller's don't consider them one either.

I maintain that Jack Daniels meets the definition of bourbon even though they are not required to.
The only difference is that they are not REQUIRED to use 51% corn in their mash but there is no reason they would not use mostly corn.
Several bourbons are charcoal filtered.

But your statement "Jack Daniels doesn't claim to be a bourbon, and bourbon distiller's don't consider them one either." is absolutely true.

[CID_0687]

You guys sound like such experts. I have never drank bourbon or any other whiskey in my 52+ years of life. :eek:
Come with us...to the dark, and mellow side.

[JimGP20]

Come with us...to the dark, and mellow side.


Can't teach an old dog...... you know. :cool:

[jimjames418]

Can't teach an old dog...... you know. :cool:
You CAN teach.









Doesn't mean the dog will learn though. :whistle:

[EnchantedFrog]

You guys sound like such experts. I have never drank bourbon or any other whiskey in my 52+ years of life. :eek:
Don't worry. I've had enough for both of us. :whistle:

[CID_0687]

Can't teach an old dog...... you know. :cool:
That's cool...just leaves more for me. ;)

[Samm]

I really appreciate the advice... I had no idea there were so many fellow bourbon lovers in this Forum. I shall tip my glass to you all as I "experiment."

I believe I will next try Maker's Mark, as I know most stores here carry it.
Next, if I can find it, the Woodford Reserve... I have seen it somewhere, if I can just remember where.

... and of course I promised Fire Watch I'd try Gentleman's Jack. Thanks buddy.

But there are certainly some other tempting choices you all have suggested that I am sure to get around to if they are sold locally... even if eventually I come back to Jim Beam Black because I am cheap. ;)

[PeterGriffin]

Any of these:

http://www.smallbatch.com/lpa

Costco usually has Woodford Reserve and other good brands for a good deal. I don't really drink hard liquor anymore, especially not dark liquor. Wild Turkey on the low end is still pretty good, Bookers is probably the best if you're not concerned about price.

I still have a half finished still when I got a wild hair and thought I'd make my own corn squeezin's, but getting married and having kids took care of that "too much time on my hands" hobby. One day.

[Chuangtzu]

Any of these:

http://www.smallbatch.com/lpa

Costco usually has Woodford Reserve and other good brands for a good deal. I don't really drink hard liquor anymore, especially not dark liquor. Wild Turkey on the low end is still pretty good, Bookers is probably the best if you're not concerned about price.

I still have a half finished still when I got a wild hair and thought I'd make my own corn squeezin's, but getting married and having kids took care of that "too much time on my hands" hobby. One day.

Woodford Reserve is tasty.

[XB70]

Wild Turkey.


Bravo B.B. :clap:

Apparently, you and I are the only true conasures around here, of fine Bourbon.

Wild Turkey 101...fine Bourbon ...:cool:

[RTchoke]

Oh noes!!!!!!! They are running out of Bourbon!! :eek:

The folks at Knob Creek say this:

For the first time ever, we've actually run out of Knob Creek.

Because you and your fellow Stillhouse members have done such a great job sharing your love of Knob Creek and spreading the word far and wide, consumer demand for our bourbon has finally outstripped our current supply. And we've got nothing left to bottle until November. So, from the bottom of our hearts, thanks for nothing.

Of course, we could bottle the next batch a little early to make up for the shortage, but we believe Knob Creek must be aged a full 9 years in order to reach its true potential. So we're just going to wait it out. If you happen to experience a shortage where you live, just remember that everything will be back to normal this November.

[djdudley]

You should be tasting the product of those fine distillers of Loretto, Ky. By that I mean Makers Mark. Now there is a full rich bourbon. My son in law gave me a bottle of KC and I knew there had to be something better!!! JMHO and nothing else!!!!!

[CID_0687]

Oh noes!!!!!!! They are running out of Bourbon!! :eek:
:redface: Sorry.

[JohnRandolph]

Makers Mark
Wild Turkey 101
Rebel Yell
Jim Beam

Generally I prefer sour mash to bourbon, but circumstances, mood, and availability often determine purchase.

[RTchoke]

:redface: Sorry.

Doesn't bother me a bit since I don't drink the stuff. :razz: They start running out of Kahlua though, well let's just say..................Momma ain't gonna be happy.

[EnchantedFrog]

Doesn't bother me a bit since I don't drink the stuff. :razz: They start running out of Kahlua though, well let's just say..................Momma ain't gonna be happy.
HOMEMADE KAHLUA

3 c. sugar
3 c. water
10 tsp. instant coffee
3 c. vodka
3 tsp. vanilla extract
Simmer water - sugar and coffee for 1 hour. Let cool. Add vanilla extract and vodka.

Add stick of cinnamon

[JohnRandolph]

Any of these:

http://www.smallbatch.com/lpa

Costco usually has Woodford Reserve and other good brands for a good deal. I don't really drink hard liquor anymore, especially not dark liquor. Wild Turkey on the low end is still pretty good, Bookers is probably the best if you're not concerned about price.

I still have a half finished still when I got a wild hair and thought I'd make my own corn squeezin's, but getting married and having kids took care of that "too much time on my hands" hobby. One day.

Ummmmm once you connect the coil to the pot, you are in violation of certain statutes at the state and federal level enacted to collect taxes and prevent certain private pleasures...

[captusa]

Makers Mark
Wild Turkey 101
Rebel Yell
Jim Beam

Generally I prefer sour mash to bourbon, but circumstances, mood, and availability often determine purchase.

Almost every bourbon is sour mash whether they say so or not.
Sour mash just means some old mash is used to start a new batch of mash.

[RTchoke]

HOMEMADE KAHLUA

3 c. sugar
3 c. water
10 tsp. instant coffee
3 c. vodka
3 tsp. vanilla extract
Simmer water - sugar and coffee for 1 hour. Let cool. Add vanilla extract and vodka.

Add stick of cinnamon


Vodka is for wimps. My recipe calls for Everclear. Got to go to Montana to get it though.

[EnchantedFrog]

Vodka is for wimps. My recipe calls for Everclear. Got to go to Montana to get it though.
You likes that 'stiff' Kahlua...:razz:

Ya, pretty good, too.

There's the drink called the "Aggravation" that involves

1 shot Whiskey (Scotch is actually best)
1 shot Kahlua

Pour over rocks in short highball glass
Top with milk.


Beginner drinkers love this drink because it goes
down like chocolate milk. Experienced drinkers
know that it will buzz you hard.
A variant made with Southern Comfort is a
frat party legend.

[RTchoke]

You likes that 'stiff' Kahlua...:razz:

Ya, pretty good, too.

There's the drink called the "Aggravation" that involves

1 shot Whiskey (Scotch is actually best)
1 shot Kahlua

Pour over rocks in short highball glass
Top with milk.


Beginner drinkers love this drink because it goes
down like chocolate milk. Experienced drinkers
know that it will buzz you hard.
A variant made with Southern Comfort is a
frat party legend.

Never had one of those. Guess I'll have to try one. It sounds yummy. :razz:

[pattyk]

Never had one of those. Guess I'll have to try one. It sounds yummy. :razz:

here we call that drynk a "separator"

separates your mind from your body.....:))

but that is my absolute fav drynk ever !!!

[RTchoke]

here we call that drynk a "separator"

separates your mind from your body.....:))

but that is my absolute fav drynk ever !!!

:)) How appropriate.

I drink quite a bit of Kahlua and Cream but have never added the whiskey. Don't think we even have any in the house. Got plenty of other stuff though. :whistle:

[Samm]

HOMEMADE KAHLUA

3 c. sugar
3 c. water
10 tsp. instant coffee
3 c. vodka
3 tsp. vanilla extract
Simmer water - sugar and coffee for 1 hour. Let cool. Add vanilla extract and vodka.

Add stick of cinnamon


Yes, I have made that... not as good straight as the real stuff from Mexico, but good enough in coffee and mixed drinks.

[Samm]

Vodka is for wimps. My recipe calls for Everclear. Got to go to Montana to get it though.

That leads to the question... can you still get 190 proof Everclear in Montana? We can only get 160 proof here anymore.

[Samm]

You likes that 'stiff' Kahlua...:razz:

Ya, pretty good, too.

There's the drink called the "Aggravation" that involves

1 shot Whiskey (Scotch is actually best)
1 shot Kahlua

Pour over rocks in short highball glass
Top with milk.


Beginner drinkers love this drink because it goes
down like chocolate milk. Experienced drinkers
know that it will buzz you hard.
A variant made with Southern Comfort is a
frat party legend.

Did you know you can make a very passable Southern Comfort by mixing Apricot Brandy with 7-Up? ... and at a much lower price.

Told you I was cheap. ;)

[Samm]

here we call that drynk a "separator"

separates your mind from your body.....:))

but that is my absolute fav drynk ever !!!

Perfect... I am only interested in your body. :shifty:

[RTchoke]

That leads to the question... can you still get 190 proof Everclear in Montana? We can only get 160 proof here anymore.

**checks bottle on the bar**

Yep. It's 190 proof, so I would say yes. :)

[mryukon]

I've toyed with the idea of making my own whisky. You can get a decent setup including barrel for around $500. My only prolem is waiting two years or so to get to taste it. Maybe I should stick with commercial products...

[curtis123]

That leads to the question... can you still get 190 proof Everclear in Montana? We can only get 160 proof here anymore.

We have the 190 in ND, too. It comes in handy in the winter, to help start the truck.

[Spiked101]

I like Booker's and also Maker's Mark. Bushmill's is usually my regular drink.

[TinCan]

Mostly what I drink is bourbon and Tennessee Whiskey...and when I say Tennessee Whiskey I don't mean that overrated Jack Daniels ****.

It depends on my budget.

George Dickel Tennessee Whiskey, I can get a liter for $22...very smooth, not as sweet as Jack Daniels.

Maker's Mark is very smooth, liter is around $35 here...

Woodford Reserve is a bit more pricey around $50 a liter but man is it worth it.

Definitely try the Maker's and Woodford you'll enjoy them...neither are as harsh as Jim Beam...I have to cut JB with Coke or water...Maker's and Woodford I'll just pour over ice.

If you like Tennessee Whiskey give George Dickel a try too...cheaper than JD, and has a superior flavor.

+1 Maker's Mark then Woodford. If you chance upon a decent bottle of real Irish Whiskey let me know.

[TinCan]

You guys sound like such experts. I have never drank bourbon or any other whiskey in my 52+ years of life. :eek:

Well now, it sounds like something you need to add to the "Bucket List." ;)

[TinCan]

Ummmmm once you connect the coil to the pot, you are in violation of certain statutes at the state and federal level enacted to collect taxes and prevent certain private pleasures...


Not if you did it as a science project for your senior year in high school. :)
Got an A+++ for that one! Of course it didn't hurt that the entire faculty had to "sample" it along with the Chief of Police and local Doctor. Gotta love growing up in a small town. :)

[TinCan]

You likes that 'stiff' Kahlua...:razz:

Ya, pretty good, too.

There's the drink called the "Aggravation" that involves

1 shot Whiskey (Scotch is actually best)
1 shot Kahlua

Pour over rocks in short highball glass
Top with milk.


Beginner drinkers love this drink because it goes
down like chocolate milk. Experienced drinkers
know that it will buzz you hard.
A variant made with Southern Comfort is a
frat party legend.

:eek: Mixing Scotch! That's a sacrilege!!!!!!!

[TinCan]

That leads to the question... can you still get 190 proof Everclear in Montana? We can only get 160 proof here anymore.

Now surely some enterprising local can do better than that. ;)

[PeterGriffin]

Ummmmm once you connect the coil to the pot, you are in violation of certain statutes at the state and federal level enacted to collect taxes and prevent certain private pleasures...


That was most of the attraction. That, gettin' drunk on my own hooch, and outrunning the law in my hemi powered '40 Ford.

[jimjames418]

Ummmmm once you connect the coil to the pot, you are in violation of certain statutes at the state and federal level enacted to collect taxes and prevent certain private pleasures...

Actually you are not. Some states allow you to manufacture for personal consumption.


MISSOURI STATE LAW. CLICK HERE. Citizens can distill up to 200 gallons per year without a permit. Check with your local law enforcement. (http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c300-399/3110000055.htm)

NEVADA LAW CLICK HERE. THERE IS NO LAW PREVENTING YOU FROM DISTILLING FOR YOUR OWN USE IN NEVADA. (http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-369.html)

[Samm]

+1 Maker's Mark then Woodford. If you chance upon a decent bottle of real Irish Whiskey let me know.

I understand Jamesons's is a decent Irish Whiskey, but then I have never tried it. I can't recall the last time I had Irish of any brand.

[Samm]

Now surely some enterprising local can do better than that. ;)

There is really not much point... you may not be able to spike the wedding reception punch as potently, but from the stand point of personal consumption and inebriation, there is not a great deal of difference.

[TinCan]

I understand Jamesons's is a decent Irish Whiskey, but then I have never tried it. I can't recall the last time I had Irish of any brand.

The last time I had some was back in June 1992 when I ran into an old Irish Chaplain that I knew and we toasted each other before I headed off to a new duty station.

[TinCan]

There is really not much point... you may not be able to spike the wedding reception punch as potently, but from the stand point of personal consumption and inebriation, there is not a great deal of difference.

Quite true. I pretty much content myself with glass of wine every so often and when the urge hits, Maker's Mark on ice. Far cry from my youth. ;)

Ya know, I've been thinking about your quest and thought you may want to check out the local watering hole to see what they carry. That way you could possibly sample a few different ones without having to buy a fifth of each.

[captusa]

+1 Maker's Mark then Woodford. If you chance upon a decent bottle of real Irish Whiskey let me know.


My favorite is Paddy's followed by Powers then Bushmill's (both Black Bull and regular)
Tullamore Dew (like Canadian Seagram's Crown Royale) is far too light and mild for me.
If I have it with coffee (black no cream) I use Jameson.
BTW I don't what you mean by real Irish Whiskey but I've had Poteen and would not recommend it.

[captusa]

I understand Jamesons's is a decent Irish Whiskey, but then I have never tried it. I can't recall the last time I had Irish of any brand.

By coincidence I have drunk (I think that's the correct tense and not a double entendre) the same think as Paul Newman did in some movies.
J.T.S. Brown bourbon from The Hustler and The Color of Money and Bushmill's from The Verdict.

[spearmaster]

Knob Creek is awesome, nothing like the sound of some crew serve weapons! Oh yeah and I agree the bourbon is pretty good too. I have to say I pretty partial to Jack Daniels I often keep some old No. 7 around but when I feel the urge to drink the refine stuff I step up to some Single Barrel. Which I happen to have right now. Excellent stuff.

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

I cant really drink bourbon, it makes me go crazy, plus I had a bad experience as a teenager than involved drinking a quart of Jack Daniels.

I can drink Crown Royal, but only because it's sissy Canadian whiskey.

Gran Marnier is where it's at.

[TheModerateOne]

I cant really drink bourbon, it makes me go crazy, plus I had a bad experience as a teenager than involved drinking a quart of Jack Daniels.

I can drink Crown Royal, but only because it's sissy Canadian whiskey.

Gran Marnier is where it's at.

Dang, dude. Gran Marnier straight up? Can't say I've met someone who drinks it. I like it in a sissy-ass concoction at the neighborhood martini bar. OJ, Goose Orange, and Grand Marnier.

[TheModerateOne]

Speaking of Bourbon anyway, I like Maker's, but I've wanted to try Blanton's. A friend offered me some recently and I wasn't in the mood for Bourbon that day. It seems super dee duper expensive but I wonder if it's worth it.

[captusa]

Dang, dude. Gran Marnier straight up? Can't say I've met someone who drinks it. I like it in a sissy-ass concoction at the neighborhood martini bar. OJ, Goose Orange, and Grand Marnier.

Grand Marnier is most typically drunk as an after dinner drink.
Straight in a pony glass.
Anytime a company can get their drink in a popular cocktail it means $$$$$$$$$$$.

Green Charteuse is used in something called swamp water.
It is also an after dinner drink and over 100 proof (both yellow and green)

http://www.drinkswap.com/drinks/detail.asp?recipe_id=10496

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

Dang, dude. Gran Marnier straight up? Can't say I've met someone who drinks it. I like it in a sissy-ass concoction at the neighborhood martini bar. OJ, Goose Orange, and Grand Marnier.

Yeah, I don't just sip it as a cordial, I do straight shots of it. It's actually pretty much all I do shots of, except the occasional shooter if someone buys it for me.

If you like it mixed, try an ounce and a half of GM, half an ounce of peach schapps and a splash of pineapple juice. Chill and strain. It's called a Blonde-Headed Slut.

[MrDuffy]

Fairly recently I have reacquainted myself with Bourbon. I used to drink it on rare occasion when I was much younger, but since I drank the cheap stuff, I had to mix it to make it palatable. (I was, and still am, particularly fond of Manhattans.) After watching a History Channel show on Bourbons and Scotch I became curious about top shelf Bourbons and, as to be expected, I found that they are far better neat or on rocks than the Bourbon of my youth.

My greatest curiosity was about Knob Creek (I think it is the machine gun thing... ;) ) but the first liquor store I was shopping at wanted $53 a bottle for it so I bought a half pint of Jim Beam Black instead. Not bad, but the Knob Creek had to be better, right? Wrong... turns out the JBB was smoother and gave me that residual warm feeling whereas the KC ( at $44) although excellent, burned a bit going down.

I was turned on to Bulliet by my "future" son-in-law and found it noticeably better than the JBB, but of course at a higher price (albeit less than the KC) and probably worth the cost difference. Still, I think the JBB is an excellent value.

What Bourbon do you all favor? And for what characteristics? I cannot afford to buy a bottle of each top brand to test taste and have no desire to drink that much whiskey, particularly if I do not find a particular brand to my liking. My preference is for a full bodied slightly sweet drink that gives that "warming" sensation, as opposed to the sharper finish that the Knob Creek provides.

I have been eyeing Maker's Mark, Bakers, Henry Mckenna, Woodford Reserve and Elijah Craig as possibilities, but would appreciate any experience you can pass on.
Whiskey River

[mryukon]

I had a shot of Knob Creek today and I must say it is smooth as a baby's hiney. I'm still partial to Woodford, though. Any plans of incorporating your newly rekindled interest in bourbon in your 4th celebrations?

I've got a new bottle of Woodford in the freezer, begging me to have a taste, but I shall wait...

[CID_0687]

I had a shot of Knob Creek today and I must say it is smooth as a baby's hiney. I'm still partial to Woodford, though. Any plans of incorporating your newly rekindled interest in bourbon in your 4th celebrations?

I've got a new bottle of Woodford in the freezer, begging me to have a taste, but I shall wait...
My love for Bourbon is incorporated in my Independence Day celebrations...my thoughts are, what better way to celebrate the birth of my Beloved Nation than by drinking an American Spirit?

In order to ensure that I had enough for the weekend. ;) I bought a pint of Woodford which is about to be gone, one more glass should do it...and a fifth of Maker's...Sure, it would have made more sense to buy a big jug of Maker's, but I'm all about spreading the wealth...****!! I think I just threw up in my mouth...and it ain't because of the Bourbon. :))

Good times, good times.

[mryukon]

I have since opened my bottle of Woodford, something was nagging at me about it, like it was not a good batch or something. After a thorough taste test I discovered two things. First, it tastes great and second, I will need to visit our local spirits vendor in the morning. There is nothing like a good bourbon and fireworks...:mrgreen:

[CID_0687]

I have since opened my bottle of Woodford, something was nagging at me about it, like it was not a good batch or something. After a thorough taste test I discovered two things. First, it tastes great and second, I will need to visit our local spirits vendor in the morning. There is nothing like a good bourbon and fireworks...:mrgreen:
Yes Praise God!! Hallelujah!! :clap:

[mryukon]

My Woodford bottle is deformed! It pours way too much!

Fortunately my bourbon glass was on the scene to catch it...WHEW!

[CID_0687]

My Woodford bottle is deformed! It pours way too much!

Fortunately my bourbon glass was on the scene to catch it...WHEW!
Shew..that was a close call...they ought not make those mouths so wide on those Woodford bottles.

I had the same problem earlier.

Maker's is a bit more conservative.

[mryukon]

That there is good info. I may have to check out the MM, just for the easily controlled pour. B ut that may take some of the fun out of the whole experience...it's a conundrum

[CID_0687]

I had batch 47...which one did you have Yukon?

[Samm]

Quite true. I pretty much content myself with glass of wine every so often and when the urge hits, Maker's Mark on ice. Far cry from my youth. ;)

Ya know, I've been thinking about your quest and thought you may want to check out the local watering hole to see what they carry. That way you could possibly sample a few different ones without having to buy a fifth of each.

That's not a bad idea, but we don't particularly frequent bars anymore and my wife would not like me to do it alone. I think I'll take the slow approach... one bottle at a time.

I am still working on the bottle of Jim Beam Black (what can I say, it was on sale... as I said... I'm cheap), but have my eye on the Maker's Mark for the next round.

[mryukon]

I'm not quite sure, the print looks funny, its small and I can't find my eyeglasses. Maybe if I have another belt, I'll be able to see it.

[Samm]

I cant really drink bourbon, it makes me go crazy, plus I had a bad experience as a teenager than involved drinking a quart of Jack Daniels.

I can drink Crown Royal, but only because it's sissy Canadian whiskey.

Gran Marnier is where it's at.

If I did not drink everything that I had a bad experience with in my youth, I would be a teetotaler. ;)

I love Gran Marnier in good strong dark roast coffee, but I just cannot get into sipping it straight.

[Samm]

Whiskey River

That's one I have not heard of... are you sure it's bourbon?

[Samm]

My love for Bourbon is incorporated in my Independence Day celebrations...my thoughts are, what better way to celebrate the birth of my Beloved Nation than by drinking an American Spirit?

In order to ensure that I had enough for the weekend. ;) I bought a pint of Woodford which is about to be gone, one more glass should do it...and a fifth of Maker's...Sure, it would have made more sense to buy a big jug of Maker's, but I'm all about spreading the wealth... ****!! I think I just threw up in my mouth...and it ain't because of the Bourbon. :))

Good times, good times.

Thanks for that visual... :sick:

[mryukon]

Nothing wrong with Crown, even though it is from O Canada...It's a necessary ingredient in duck farts.

CID, I cannot for the life of me see the batch number...I'm aggravated now.

[CID_0687]

That's not a bad idea, but we don't particularly frequent bars anymore and my wife would not like me to do it alone. I think I'll take the slow approach... one bottle at a time.

I am still working on the bottle of Jim Beam Black (what can I say, it was on sale... as I said... I'm cheap), but have my eye on the Maker's Mark for the next round.
Lord Jesus, I hope that next round is soon..the suspense is killing me...I'm waiting to see this:

Maker's Mark is some superb Bourbon, I should have tried it first.
;)

[CID_0687]

Thanks for that visual... :sick:
My apologies.

[CID_0687]

Nothing wrong with Crown, even though it is from O Canada...It's a necessary ingredient in duck farts.

CID, I cannot for the life of me see the batch number...I'm aggravated now.
Bless him Lord!!

Maybe if you hadn't drunk so much you'd be able to read it...but then all the fun would be gone...drink on!!

[Samm]

Nothing wrong with Crown, even though it is from O Canada...It's a necessary ingredient in duck farts.

CID, I cannot for the life of me see the batch number...I'm aggravated now.

Old man + magnifying glass + strong light = fine print ;)

[Samm]

Lord Jesus, I hope that next round is soon..the suspense is killing me...I'm waiting to see this:

Originally Posted by Samm
Maker's Mark is some superb Bourbon, I should have tried it first.

;)

:))

Rest asured, I will report back. In the mean time, pour yourself another... on me. ;)

[CID_0687]

:))

Rest asured, I will report back. In the mean time, pour yourself another... on me. ;)
Thank you sir...And as it's coming in on 2 in the morning here in Alabama I believe I'll call it an evening...Gotta save some of God's nectar for tomorrow. :dance:

Have a good night gents...and any ladies that may be viewing this here thread.

[mryukon]

Old man + magnifying glass + strong light = fine print ;)

A calculus quiz in the midst of bourbon enjoyment....what is this world coming to??? :D

Samm, at this stage of the game, a microscope would be the visual aid of choice.

At this point in time, I will take CID's advice and drynk on.

Cheers, fellow forumites, today (Makers) marks the day of the birth of our beloved country...Don;t cry for me Argent..oh wait wrong song. Damned fingers typing that!

Seriously though, yawl have a safe and Happy 4th, and please remember our Defenders of the Republic who cannot be with their families and friends. Thanks one and all.

[Samm]

A calculus quiz in the midst of bourbon enjoyment....what is this world coming to??? :D

Samm, at this stage of the game, a microscope would be the visual aid of choice.

At this point in time, I will take CID's advice and drynk on.

Cheers, fellow forumites, today (Makers) marks the day of the birth of our beloved country...Don;t cry for me Argent..oh wait wrong song. Damned fingers typing that!

Seriously though, yawl have a safe and Happy 4th, and please remember our Defenders of the Republic who cannot be with their families and friends. Thanks one and all.

Cheers... and I don't know about you guys, but tomorrow I am going fishing with my wife and dog. ;)

[CID_0687]

Cheers... and I don't know about you guys, but tomorrow I am going fishing with my wife and dog. ;)
You use your dog as bait? Wow...I understand the wife, but wow!!:lol:

[PredFan]

My favorite Bourbon?

Bourbon Street!

[mryukon]

I must have been pretty aggravated last night, I cannot seem to locate the label now. Hmmm, oh well. Got the brisket on the smoker and the beer is ice cold. Ya'all have a happy 4th.

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

If I did not drink everything that I had a bad experience with in my youth, I would be a teetotaler. ;)

I love Gran Marnier in good strong dark roast coffee, but I just cannot get into sipping it straight.

It's not for everyone, but I love it. I pound shots of it like they're gonna blow up the factory in five minutes.

And trust me, Tommy drunk on bourbon is a dangerous proposition. It doesn't make me violent, but it does get me really really amped up, which can lead to confrontation if I'm approached the wrong way.

[mryukon]

I think I've outgrown the 10 foot tall and bullet proof mentality when enjoying bourbon. That is not to say I do not get easily agitated, apparently I was sufficiently agitated to removed the label from my Woodford...PWI as it were. :D

[CID_0687]

I think I've outgrown the 10 foot tall and bullet proof mentality when enjoying bourbon. That is not to say I do not get easily agitated, apparently I was sufficiently agitated to removed the label from my Woodford...PWI as it were. :D
:))

Vodka makes me angry...Bourbon makes me mellow. I was really mellow last night.

[CaptC]

My all time favorite BOURBON is a very fine home brew made in Harlin Co. Kentucky. Since it's illegal to transport I just try to get it when I'm in the area.

Store bought bourbon: Wild Turkey (80 or 100 - it tastes the same).

Anything by Jack Daniels is NOT bourbon.

Drinking lesson: Bourbon is made ONLY in Kentucky - anything advertising as bourbon that was not made in Kentucky is false. Notice on the bottle: Jack Daniels is not bourbon, but rather Tennessee Whiskey. The best bourbon is made from Sour Mash (that's corn to you Yankees) and not grain. :angel:

[CaptC]

I've got a new bottle of Woodford in the freezer, begging me to have a taste, but I shall wait...IN THE FREEZER??????!?!?!?!!?!?!? BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!! HERETIC!!!!!!!!! :mad:

Of course if you're talking about Vodka, I apologize. :silenced:

[CaptC]

I love Gran Marnier in good strong dark roast coffee, but I just cannot get into sipping it straight.You must be French to bring up a liqueur in a thread about good ole American Bourbon. Besides, Gran Marnier is for sissies. You want brandy (which is distilled wine) try a good VSOP. :dance:

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

You must be French to bring up a liqueur in a thread about good ole American Bourbon. Besides, Gran Marnier is for sissies. You want brandy (which is distilled wine) try a good VSOP. :dance:

GM isn't brandy, it's Cognac.

[Mithrastan]

GM isn't brandy, it's Cognac.

Actually a yac-based cordial.

[Mithrastan]

Any number of expensive "botique" bourbons will satisfy one's palate. One of my favorites is Booker's. Woodford Reserve is very good as well.
Bulleit bourbon is right up there, and much less expensive.

Jack Daniels is rot-gut, and not technically bourbon.

I've seen mention of George Dickel in this thread. The Dickel is worth buying simply for the fact that "cold chillin'" is mentioned on the label.

[captusa]

GM isn't brandy, it's Cognac.

Cognac IS a brandy.
Grand Marnier is a blend of cognac and orange liquor.

[mryukon]

IN THE FREEZER??????!?!?!?!!?!?!? BLASPHEMER!!!!!!!! HERETIC!!!!!!!!! :mad:

Of course if you're talking about Vodka, I apologize. :silenced:


I know I know. But I sure like it cold without it being watered down. Well, ah, that's my story and I'm sticking to it...:)

[Samm]

You use your dog as bait? Wow...I understand the wife, but wow!!:lol:

Our fish are too big to use worms... ;)


Had a great day, caught a few fish; a few got away. No matter... it was a catch and release stream anyway. ;)

[Samm]

:))

Vodka makes me angry...Bourbon makes me mellow. I was really mellow last night.

All booze makes me mellow... except gin. Gin makes me feel numb and on the verge of becoming comatose. But then juniper berries are poisonous.... :neutral:

[Samm]

You must be French to bring up a liqueur in a thread about good ole American Bourbon. Besides, Gran Marnier is for sissies. You want brandy (which is distilled wine) try a good VSOP. :dance:

I didn't bring it up... Tommy did.

And I think he's Italian. ;)

[CaptC]

GM isn't brandy, it's Cognac.Brandy, cognac -- schematics same thing different wording. Besides GM is not even cognac, it's a liqueur.

[CaptC]

I know I know. But I sure like it cold without it being watered down. Well, ah, that's my story and I'm sticking to it...:)They got this new thing now called "ice". Goes great with either Bourbon or Scotch. :angel:

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

Brandy, cognac -- schematics same thing different wording. Besides GM is not even cognac, it's a liqueur.

It's orange-flavored Cognac.

[CaptC]

All booze makes me mellow... except gin. Gin makes me feel numb and on the verge of becoming comatose. But then juniper berries are poisonous.... :neutral:Gin: a useful ingredient in a Martini. Best recipe: 3 parts Gin (I use Gordon's), 1 part dry vermouth (I use Martini & Rossi), shake vigorously with ice until shaker is too cold to hold, strain into martini glass or rocks glass add 2 manzilla olives and enjoy.

P.S. More than 2 of these may result in loss of coordination, memory, and possibly consciousness. :drool:

Vodka Martini: 3 measure Gin, 1 measure Vodka, 1/3 measure vermouth, serve as above but substitute lemon peel for olives.

Note: the ingredient Kina Lillet used in the new James Bond movies has not been made since 1968.

[CaptC]

It's orange-flavored Cognac.Liqueur: ANY whiskey, cognac, brandy, whatever premixed with flavored syrup.

[mryukon]

They got this new thing now called "ice". Goes great with either Bourbon or Scotch. :angel:

I think I've seen this ice stuff before. It's in the same place I keep my bourbon, the chill chest. :D

[Cav Scout]

Gin: a useful ingredient in a Martini. Best recipe: 3 parts Gin (I use Gordon's), 1 part dry vermouth (I use Martini & Rossi), shake vigorously with ice until shaker is too cold to hold, strain into martini glass or rocks glass add 2 manzilla olives and enjoy.

P.S. More than 2 of these may result in loss of coordination, memory, and possibly consciousness. :drool:

Vodka Martini: 3 measure Gin, 1 measure Vodka, 1/3 measure vermouth, serve as above but substitute lemon peel for olives.

Note: the ingredient Kina Lillet used in the new James Bond movies has not been made since 1968.

Gin is one of the most disgusting substances on earth...

Combining it with Vodka is sacraligious and should criminal.

[CID_0687]

Gin is one of the most disgusting substances on earth...

Combining it with Vodka is sacraligious and should criminal.
All of the light liquors disgust me...The only exception is a vodka martini or a Bloody Mary...But vodka in any other form just makes me cringe...Gin is ub da debil...How some folks can stomach it is beyond me...Of course I've heard others say the same about Bourbon and Scotch so I guess it's all an acquired taste.

[Samm]

Gin: a useful ingredient in a Martini. Best recipe: 3 parts Gin (I use Gordon's), 1 part dry vermouth (I use Martini & Rossi), shake vigorously with ice until shaker is too cold to hold, strain into martini glass or rocks glass add 2 manzilla olives and enjoy.

P.S. More than 2 of these may result in loss of coordination, memory, and possibly consciousness. :drool:

Vodka Martini: 3 measure Gin, 1 measure Vodka, 1/3 measure vermouth, serve as above but substitute lemon peel for olives.

Note: the ingredient Kina Lillet used in the new James Bond movies has not been made since 1968.

You left out the most important (given the title of this thread) martini... the bourbon martini, aka the manhattan.

2 1/2 oz bourbon whiskey
3/4 oz sweet vermouth
1 dash Angostura® bitters
1 maraschino cherry

optional:

+ 1 twist orange peel

[Samm]

All of the light liquors disgust me...The only exception is a vodka martini or a Bloody Mary...But vodka in any other form just makes me cringe...Gin is ub da debil...How some folks can stomach it is beyond me...Of course I've heard others say the same about Bourbon and Scotch so I guess it's all an acquired taste.

I have heard that top shelf vodka is really quite nice. Perhaps I will go on a vodka quest once my bourbon quest is over... :think:


Oh, wait... I have already booked a top shelf tequila quest... the vodka will have to wait. ;)

[CID_0687]

I have heard that top shelf vodka is really quite nice. Perhaps I will go on a vodka quest once my bourbon quest is over... :think:


Oh, wait... I have already booked a top shelf tequila quest... the vodka will have to wait. ;)
Have you finished that bottle of Jim Beam yet? At this rate it's gonna take you at least 5 years before the tequila quest begins...I suggest skipping the tequila and going straight for the Mezcal but maybe that's just me...:)

A buddy of mine has mentioned that Kettle One? Vodka is very good, I haven't brought myself to try it...I keep a bottle of Absolut around just in case I get in the mood for a Bloody Mary, which is rare. That bottle has been in the cabinet for over a year and not even down to the half way mark.

[CaptC]

JMO: Best of the best--

Bourbon: Wild Turkey

Whiskey: Jack Daniels - black label

Scotch: Famous Grouse

Irish: Black Bush

Vodka: Stolychnaya (Taaka runs a close second)

Gin: Gordon's

Tequila: José Cuervo Especial (Gold)

Brandy/Cognac: Any good VSOP

Home brew: Anything from Harlin Co. KY

[CID_0687]

JMO: Best of the best--

Bourbon: Wild Turkey

Whiskey: Jack Daniels - black label

Scotch: Famous Grouse

Irish: Black Bush

Vodka: Stolychnaya (Taaka runs a close second)

Gin: Gordon's

Tequila: José Cuervo Especial (Gold)

Brandy/Cognac: Any good VSOP

Home brew: Anything from Harlin Co. KY


Gotta disagree with you on the Jack Daniels...George Dickel is superior IMO.

Jack is overrated...It's a good whiskey, but not the best. I do like Gentleman Jack and I've had a couple of bottles of Single Barrel that I've enjoyed, but none have matched George Dickel white label...or Barrel Select.

[Samm]

Have you finished that bottle of Jim Beam yet? At this rate it's gonna take you at least 5 years before the tequila quest begins...I suggest skipping the tequila and going straight for the Mezcal but maybe that's just me...:)

A buddy of mine has mentioned that Kettle One? Vodka is very good, I haven't brought myself to try it...I keep a bottle of Absolut around just in case I get in the mood for a Bloody Mary, which is rare. That bottle has been in the cabinet for over a year and not even down to the half way mark.

Actually I am gonna hang on to the JB... I already know I like it; no need to keep testing it. I also have several evening drinks left in the Boulliet bottle that I am also saving for comparative purposes, so the MM (and maybe the WR too) is gonna be purchased in the next day or so.

This "hard" booze thing is something new to me; or at least a revival. Since my mid 20s, a time when I drank far more than I should have, I bet I have not consumed a full fifth of all types of hard liquor combined... until embarking on the bourbon quest that is. And even now, I am only "testing" a couple of ounces 2-3 times a week. I am in no hurry... ;)

[captusa]

Liqueur: ANY whiskey, cognac, brandy, whatever premixed with flavored syrup.

Correct.
There was a time when you couldn't sell whiskey in a half-pint so if you wanted a flask it was whiskey liqueur.
An over sweet syrupy moose urime at 60 proof.

[Samm]

JMO: Best of the best--

Bourbon: Wild Turkey

Whiskey: Jack Daniels - black label

Scotch: Famous Grouse

Irish: Black Bush

Vodka: Stolychnaya (Taaka runs a close second)

Gin: Gordon's

Tequila: José Cuervo Especial (Gold)

Brandy/Cognac: Any good VSOP

Home brew: Anything from Harlin Co. KY



Is JMO some sort of super whiskey none of the rest of us have ever heard of? :eh:


:razz:

;)

[captusa]

JMO: Best of the best--

Bourbon: Wild Turkey

Whiskey: Jack Daniels - black label

Scotch: Famous Grouse

Irish: Black Bush

Vodka: Stolychnaya (Taaka runs a close second)

Gin: Gordon's

Tequila: José Cuervo Especial (Gold)

Brandy/Cognac: Any good VSOP

Home brew: Anything from Harlin Co. KY



What is your favorite whisky ?

Wild Turkey, Jack Daniels - black label, Famous Grouse or Black Bush ?
They're all whiskeys.

[captusa]

They got this new thing now called "ice". Goes great with either Bourbon or Scotch. :angel:

But it does give an unpleasant after taste similar to water.

[captusa]

It's orange-flavored Cognac.

that's what I told you.:D

[CaptC]

What is your favorite whisky ?

Wild Turkey, Jack Daniels - black label, Famous Grouse or Black Bush ?
They're all whiskeys.I broke it down to the various components. :drool:

[captusa]

I broke it down to the various components. :drool:
I know.
I was just being my usual pedantic pain in the butt self.

[VCaddy05]

Im a Rum drinker myself! but dont mind a good scotch from time to time

[ronuva]

Maker's Mark is a smooth bourbon that goes well with all traditional drinks. I prefer the mint julep.

[captusa]

Im a Rum drinker myself! but dont mind a good scotch from time to time

I find DonQ far superior than any regular rum including Bacardi.
I had some DonQ 151 that could be described as drinkable (straight of course)
Two friends and I were challenged by a bar owner in Boston to drink shots of Lemon Hart 151.
If we drank the shots we would get another shot and not have to pay for either shot.
We drank the shots but calling tham drinkable would be an exaggeration.

[Samm]

I know.
I was just being my usual pedantic pain in the butt self.

Who do you think you are? Mr. M? ;)

[CaptC]

I know.
I was just being my usual pedantic pain in the butt self.And I would expect no less from you m/f :D

[CaptC]

Im a Rum drinker myself! but dont mind a good scotch from time to timeGlad you brought that up. I don't drink a lot of rum myself, but when I do I prefer Myers Dark over ice with a dash of soda.

[Samm]

Lord Jesus, I hope that next round is soon..the suspense is killing me...I'm waiting to see this:

Maker's Mark is some superb Bourbon, I should have tried it first.

;)

I'll have you know Mr. Cid that I am sitting here with MM on the rocks enjoying every sip. It is some superb Bourbon and I should have tried it first.

That will not stop my quest for the perfect Bourbon, but I certainly give it the edge over everything else I have tried. ;)

hic

BTW... Firewatch... As I promised, I also picked up a bottle of Gentleman's Jack and even though it it not Bourbon I expect to try it in the next day or so.

[CID_0687]

I'll have you know Mr. Cid that I am sitting here with MM on the rocks enjoying every sip. It is some superb Bourbon and I should have tried it first.

That will not stop my quest for the perfect Bourbon, but I certainly give it the edge over everything else I have tried. ;)

hic

BTW... Firewatch... As I promised, I also picked up a bottle of Gentleman's Jack and even though it it not Bourbon I expect to try it in the next day or so.
:)) :)) :clap: :)) :))

This is where I say...

Told ya so. :mrgreen:

[Samm]

:)) :)) :clap: :)) :))

This is where I say...

Told ya so. :mrgreen:

And I appreciate you telling me so; this is really good. :D


The store where I bought it did not carry Woodford Reserve, but they did have Bookers, but it was in such an "ordinary" bottle that I bought the Gentleman's Jack instead. The bottle counts too ya know. ;)

[Cav Scout]

All of the light liquors disgust me...The only exception is a vodka martini or a Bloody Mary...But vodka in any other form just makes me cringe...Gin is ub da debil...How some folks can stomach it is beyond me...Of course I've heard others say the same about Bourbon and Scotch so I guess it's all an acquired taste.

This is very true. I know a guy who grew up stealing Vodka from his dad and would not even try anything else. I had to get him drunk on beer just to get him to taste Makers Mark, and then when I did I thought he was gonna wretch. But after a few (half a bottle) drinks I got him converted. Then when he got sober he was mad at me for ruining his drinking habits. :D

I dislike most 'light' liquers myself. I can drink a good brandy, but only one, and Scotch while not light by any means is something I stay away from unless it is one of those really well done scotch's. Cheap scotch is meant for killing people I think.

[Cav Scout]

And I appreciate you telling me so; this is really good. :D


The store where I bought it did not carry Woodford Reserve, but they did have Bookers, but it was in such an "ordinary" bottle that I bought the Gentleman's Jack instead. The bottle counts too ya know. ;)

Tis true, one can not put a fine drink in a dixie cup and call it fine.

I am glad you have discovered Makers Mark.

I have a method, in a good mood then it is Makers, in a bad mood then its the Creek. Entertaining my friends, it is what they like and I will normally drink Makers, and when dealing with the weighty issues of marital discord, whatever is handy...:D

[GA_LP]

This is very true. I know a guy who grew up stealing Vodka from his dad and would not even try anything else. I had to get him drunk on beer just to get him to taste Makers Mark, and then when I did I thought he was gonna wretch. But after a few (half a bottle) drinks I got him converted. Then when he got sober he was mad at me for ruining his drinking habits. :D

I dislike most 'light' liquers myself. I can drink a good brandy, but only one, and Scotch while not light by any means is something I stay away from unless it is one of those really well done scotch's. Cheap scotch is meant for killing people I think.Cheap Scotch is for frugal Scotsmen. Unfortunately, some here in the US have adopted the act.

[GA_LP]

I'll have you know Mr. Cid that I am sitting here with MM on the rocks enjoying every sip. It is some superb Bourbon and I should have tried it first.

That will not stop my quest for the perfect Bourbon, but I certainly give it the edge over everything else I have tried. ;)

hic

BTW... Firewatch... As I promised, I also picked up a bottle of Gentleman's Jack and even though it it not Bourbon I expect to try it in the next day or so.Would we steer you wrong on a matter as weighty as serious drinking?

[Cav Scout]

Cheap Scotch is for frugal Scotsmen. Unfortunately, some here in the US have adopted the act.


Ah, its a good thing when I was broke then that I am a Dane!

[mryukon]

I've attempted to develop a taste for scotch, but it is slow going.

[Samm]

Would we steer you wrong on a matter as weighty as serious drinking?

Everybody has an individual taste in booze... what some like some do not. If that were not the case there would not be so many varieties to choose from. Of course you would not steer me wrong, but then some people here have suggested Jack Daniels, which I do not particularly like and which is not actually bourbon. Besides, half the fun is in the quest... ;)

What impressed me about the Makers besides that it is extremely smooth, is what I can only describe as a "dusty" or "gritty" quality in place of the alcohol burn. I have never experienced that before. If someone had told me that, I would have prejudged that I would not like it, but I found it very pleasant.

[Samm]

I've attempted to develop a taste for scotch, but it is slow going.

I'm not going to go there... my brief experience with scotch is that nothing under 18 years old is palatable. And you see what they charge for a bottle of that... :neutral:

[CountryGirl]

Jim Beam
Virginia Gentleman

I used to live next to the VA Gentleman distillery and had to pass it going to and from work.

And "Thank You" to those who knew and explained the difference between bourbon and whiskey. If it's whiskey, I'm drinking Gentleman Jack. Yeah, I'm one of those picky purist, too!

Went on the Jack Daniels Distillery tour last year. I recommend it to anyone getting near Lynchburg, TN.

[CountryGirl]

I've attempted to develop a taste for scotch, but it is slow going.

Oh, God.

I had scotch ONCE. To me it tasted like watered-down bourbon so I kept adding more and more and MORE to the drink. My last memory was riding down the road with my head out the window, singing at the top of my lungs.

Never Again.

[mryukon]

I have not been able to drink enough scotch to get like that. Bourbon, well that is a different story...

[Samm]

I have not been able to drink enough scotch to get like that. Bourbon, well that is a different story...

The second time I ever got drunk (the first being on my brother's home brew - he was 18; I was 14) was on bourbon - Old Grand Dad, if I remember correctly. A friend of my brother's bet me that I could not drink his 2/3 of a fifth straight in half an hour; if I could I got it free; if I couldn't I had to buy him a full fifth. I got it down in about 20 minutes. But boy did I pay for it later... ;)

And yet I like bourbon... :D

[VCaddy05]

I find DonQ far superior than any regular rum including Bacardi.
I had some DonQ 151 that could be described as drinkable (straight of course)
Two friends and I were challenged by a bar owner in Boston to drink shots of Lemon Hart 151.
If we drank the shots we would get another shot and not have to pay for either shot.
We drank the shots but calling tham drinkable would be an exaggeration.

I wont even look at bacardi unless its mixed in a drink, I drink real Island rum, such as Mount Gay, Cockspur, Myers(occasionally) and others. Never tried DonQ151 but if I see it id give it a shot.

[VCaddy05]

Glad you brought that up. I don't drink a lot of rum myself, but when I do I prefer Myers Dark over ice with a dash of soda.

:clap: not a bad choice, dont do much rum mixed with anything but alil water or lime, but I do enjoy a nice glass of good rum with a light dash of soda.

[VCaddy05]

lol "retreading moron" i enjoyed that one!

[mryukon]

The second time I ever got drunk (the first being on my brother's home brew - he was 18; I was 14) was on bourbon - Old Grand Dad, if I remember correctly. A friend of my brother's bet me that I could not drink his 2/3 of a fifth straight in half an hour; if I could I got it free; if I couldn't I had to buy him a full fifth. I got it down in about 20 minutes. But boy did I pay for it later... ;)

And yet I like bourbon... :D

9th grade for me. Had about half a fifth (a tenth?) Then bad things happened. Still like bourbon, though. Haven't had Jim Beam in quite a while.

[VCaddy05]

9th grade for me. Had about half a fifth (a tenth?) Then bad things happened. Still like bourbon, though. Haven't had Jim Beam in quite a while.

yea its funny how a bad experience with something can shape the way you drink from then on out. I used to drink my share of wihskey, but after a real heavy night of varieties of different whiskey in one night, in public, not a good combination. Havent been able to stomach much whiskey ever since. However, I have always enjoyed my rum, and never had any issues with it.

[mryukon]

yea its funny how a bad experience with something can shape the way you drink from then on out. I used to drink my share of wihskey, but after a real heavy night of varieties of different whiskey in one night, in public, not a good combination. Havent been able to stomach much whiskey ever since. However, I have always enjoyed my rum, and never had any issues with it.

I had a bad experience with Southern Comfort once in my late teens. I cannot even stand the smell of it today, it makes me feel all queasy.

[Samm]

As I said earlier... If I did not drink any form of booze with which I had had a bad experience, I would be a teetotaler. ;)


The same could be said of women... If I let the "bad" ones affect my life, I would be a celibate monk. :neutral:

It's not the bad experience that matters... its what you learn from it.

[Samm]

I had a bad experience with Southern Comfort once in my late teens. I cannot even stand the smell of it today, it makes me feel all queasy.

Considering that you can make a passable imitation of Southern Comfort by mixing Apricot Brandy with 7-up, it is no wonder. :D

Actually... I have no evidence to indicate that is not how they make Southern Comfort... :think:

[AgreatAmerican]

Imitation is the Old Crow...now don't flame me too bad, it's not up to makers mark but it does cut good with coke!

[Samm]

Imitation is the Old Crow...now don't flame me too bad, it's not up to makers mark but it does cut good with coke!

If you are going to cut your bourbon with coke you may as well use kerosene. :sick:

BTW... Old Crow is the same whiskey as Jim Beam white label... has been since 1987 when JB bought them out.

[mryukon]

The History Channel had a special on last night called Rumrunners, Moonshiners and Bootleggers. I didn't catch all of it, but the beginning was pretty good. I hope it will be on again.

[captusa]

The History Channel had a special on last night called Rumrunners, Moonshiners and Bootleggers. I didn't catch all of it, but the beginning was pretty good. I hope it will be on again.

They also did one on bourbon.

[captusa]

If you are going to cut your bourbon with coke you may as well use kerosene. :sick:

BTW... Old Crow is the same whiskey as Jim Beam white label... has been since 1987 when JB bought them out.

I'm with you on sweet or heavy chasers with whisky.
When I was young, at a fancy affair I order scotch and Seven up.
The waiter even asked my to repeat the order.
I had to pretend I liked it.
Jack and coke is popular now.
40 years ago when my uncle from California was visiting and wanted a Jack and coke it seemed like blasphemy.

[Samm]

They also did one on bourbon.

It was that show that sparked my interest in top-shelf bourbon. ;)

[Samm]

I'm with you on sweet or heavy chasers with whisky.
When I was young, at a fancy affair I order scotch and Seven up.
The waiter even asked my to repeat the order.
I had to pretend I liked it.
Jack and coke is popular now.
40 years ago when my uncle from California was visiting and wanted a Jack and coke it seemed like blasphemy.

One of my college roommates would buy Crown Royal and mix it with coke. I would do the same with Calvert's Extra for less than half the price. When I challenged him to a blind taste test, he found that could not tell the difference (Coke will ruin the taste of any whisky equally.) While he admitted that, he continued his habit (of wasting money and ruining good booze)... claiming that he did it for "the purple sack." ;)

Expensive friggin sack... :rolleyes:

[mryukon]

They also did one on bourbon.


Damn, I missed that one, too.

[Z_only1]

Anyone try Hiram Walkers?

It was 20 some years ago I sampled some 8 year aged HW bourbon. It was smooth as silk and at fairly reasonable price.

[CaptC]

I've attempted to develop a taste for scotch, but it is slow going.I was taught that the best way to enjoy a good scotch is over ice with about a teaspoon of water. Brings out the smoky, peaty flavor.

[CaptC]

Imitation is the Old Crow...now don't flame me too bad, it's not up to makers mark but it does cut good with coke!If you have a bad cold complete with laryngitis Old Crow makes a good Hot Toddy.

Recipe: 1 cup hot Lipton's Tea
1 teaspoon honey
juice of 1/4 lemon
1 shot of Old Crow

Stir well and sip.

[CID_0687]

This is very true. I know a guy who grew up stealing Vodka from his dad and would not even try anything else. I had to get him drunk on beer just to get him to taste Makers Mark, and then when I did I thought he was gonna wretch. But after a few (half a bottle) drinks I got him converted. Then when he got sober he was mad at me for ruining his drinking habits. :D

I dislike most 'light' liquers myself. I can drink a good brandy, but only one, and Scotch while not light by any means is something I stay away from unless it is one of those really well done scotch's. Cheap scotch is meant for killing people I think.
Growing up there was always a bottle of Jack Daniels around the house, so I'd take a shot here and there...During the "Dark Ages" which was my last two years in high school, I dran a lot of vodka...typically mixed with cranberry juice...I guess I lost the taste for it...Didn't drink at all for several years and then my kids turned 2. :eek: I decided to do like our buddy Samm is doing and go on a quest...which is when I discovered George Dickel and Maker's Mark.

[CID_0687]

Everybody has an individual taste in booze... what some like some do not. If that were not the case there would not be so many varieties to choose from. Of course you would not steer me wrong, but then some people here have suggested Jack Daniels, which I do not particularly like and which is not actually bourbon. Besides, half the fun is in the quest... ;)

What impressed me about the Makers besides that it is extremely smooth, is what I can only describe as a "dusty" or "gritty" quality in place of the alcohol burn. I have never experienced that before. If someone had told me that, I would have prejudged that I would not like it, but I found it very pleasant.
It's because of the type of wheat they use in their mash...Most bourbons have rye in them, which is where the harsh burn comes from.

[CID_0687]

Jim Beam
Virginia Gentleman

I used to live next to the VA Gentleman distillery and had to pass it going to and from work.

And "Thank You" to those who knew and explained the difference between bourbon and whiskey. If it's whiskey, I'm drinking Gentleman Jack. Yeah, I'm one of those picky purist, too!

Went on the Jack Daniels Distillery tour last year. I recommend it to anyone getting near Lynchburg, TN.
That is a nice tour...we live about 3.5 hours from Nashville, so we'll make a little getaway once or twice a year...we have to pass through Lynchburg to get there, so two years ago we finally took the tour, I enjoyed it. The tour of Cascade Hollow is also a nice one, where George Dickel is made...But I was more impressed with the Maker's Mark tour than any other. Their distillery is beautiful.

[AgreatAmerican]

yup, that's why I buy crow at about $11 for a 750mil insted of Beams at $15+

[thr3]

I've been a knob creek manhattan drinker since I was a minor. (a decade)
:lol::lol:

That sentence could be construed in quite a different manner!

[captusa]

It's because of the type of wheat they use in their mash...Most bourbons have rye in them, which is where the harsh burn comes from.

Most of bourbon mash is corn unless otherwise stated.
The mixture is the blender's secret.
Either Makers Mark or Wellers use malted barly in their mash.
Malted barley is the grain used for scotch.

[JWinJAXFL]

There is only one choice - - Wild Turkey 101.

It tastes good with a variety of mixes, water, cola, 7-up, even Mountain Dew.

My favorite is on the rocks with a nice glass of ice water.

I once sat with a friend of mine and we took care of a bottle. It took us several hours, all night in fact, but we enjoyed it immensely! We had glasses of ice water to chase at first, but soon it was just us and Austin. We also had a few premium cigars with our drinks. We sat on the porch and drank all night. When dawn came, we went to town and had breakfast and then went fishing. Now that I look back on it, it was one of the best weekends I have ever had.

Wild Turkey 101. Try the 8 or 12 year old. Try the Rare Breed too! It's all Good!

JWinJAXFL

[Samm]

There is only one choice - - Wild Turkey 101.

It tastes good with a variety of mixes, water, cola, 7-up, even Mountain Dew.

My favorite is on the rocks with a nice glass of ice water.

I once sat with a friend of mine and we took care of a bottle. It took us several hours, all night in fact, but we enjoyed it immensely! We had glasses of ice water to chase at first, but soon it was just us and Austin. We also had a few premium cigars with our drinks. We sat on the porch and drank all night. When dawn came, we went to town and had breakfast and then went fishing. Now that I look back on it, it was one of the best weekends I have ever had.

Wild Turkey 101. Try the 8 or 12 year old. Try the Rare Breed too! It's all Good!

JWinJAXFL

If you are going to mix your bourbon with cola, 7-up, or Mountain Dew you may as well buy the cheapest bottle on the shelf.

I remember drinking a bottle of Wild Turkey with a fellow surveyor one evening around the campfire out in the bush about 30 years ago, but don't know if it was 101. (are there other labels?) My recollection was that it was somewhat sweet.

[captusa]

If you are going to mix your bourbon with cola, 7-up, or Mountain Dew you may as well buy the cheapest bottle on the shelf.

I remember drinking a bottle of Wild Turkey with a fellow surveyor one evening around the campfire out in the bush about 30 years ago, but don't know if it was 101. (are there other labels?) My recollection was that it was somewhat sweet.

Wild Turkey does make weaker bourbons.
A characteristic of bourbon versus other whiskeys is sweetness.
(as compared to scotch or rye)
I almost always drink bourbon straight.
The only time I mix bourbon is on very hot days I might have a tall bourbon and soda with lots of ice.
Also with a sprig of mint in crushed ice and a little soda on Derby day.
I tried Weller's receipe for a mint julip but it was too much trouble and too sweet.

A great drink on a very hot day is Laird's Applejack tall with soda.
I have an old bottle of bonded applejack (100proof) that I am saving.
I don't know why.

[mryukon]

I have an old bottle of bonded applejack (100proof) that I am saving.
I don't know why.

The only bottle I have saved is a bottle of Russian Vodka. Like you, I have no idea why I'm saving it, other than the fact I don't care for vodka that much.

I wil be going on a bourbon hunt tomorrow. Not sure what I'm after, but when I see it, I'll know. I want it to be something out of the ordinary. Suggestions?

[captusa]

The only bottle I have saved is a bottle of Russian Vodka. Like you, I have no idea why I'm saving it, other than the fact I don't care for vodka that much.

I wil be going on a bourbon hunt tomorrow. Not sure what I'm after, but when I see it, I'll know. I want it to be something out of the ordinary. Suggestions?

My tastes are relatively pedestrian.
If you can find Yellowstone (bonded if possible) you will have a relatively smooth light bodied bourbon.
I've drunk it straight form the bottle while helping friends stack firewood on a hot day and it was soothing.(I was much younger)
Opinions on out of the ordinary and small batch products have been recommended by others on the forum.

[Samm]

Well... I cracked the seal on the bottle of Gentileman's Jack last night... thank you very much Firewatch.

It is excellent... far better than Jack Daniels No. 7. If I didn't know better I would have sworn it was bourbon.

I might just squirrel that bottle away for special occasions and drink MM or Bulleit (love the bottle ;) ) for everyday.

[mryukon]

Stuck with Woodford this weekend. Tuesday I will be near a very large liquor outlet, will be strolling through the aisles checking out the wares.

[Samm]

Stuck with Woodford this weekend. Tuesday I will be near a very large liquor outlet, will be strolling through the aisles checking out the wares.

I have yet to find a bottle of Woodford... got a couple more outlets to check out.

Give the Gentleman Jack's a try Yukon... It is really fine whisky even if you may not enjoy Jack Daniels 7.

[mryukon]

I may do that Samm. I had Jack's Single Barrel some time ago (Christmas present from a friend) it was tasty, with a good, throaty burn.

[CID_0687]

Well... I cracked the seal on the bottle of Gentileman's Jack last night... thank you very much Firewatch.

It is excellent... far better than Jack Daniels No. 7. If I didn't know better I would have sworn it was bourbon.

I might just squirrel that bottle away for special occasions and drink MM or Bulleit (love the bottle ;) ) for everyday.
I enjoy some Gentleman Jack every now and then...about the best thing to come out of Lynchburg, TN IMHO.

[captusa]

Well... I cracked the seal on the bottle of Gentileman's Jack last night... thank you very much Firewatch.

It is excellent... far better than Jack Daniels No. 7. If I didn't know better I would have sworn it was bourbon.

I might just squirrel that bottle away for special occasions and drink MM or Bulleit (love the bottle ;) ) for everyday.

As I have stated before.
I would wager that most if not all of Jack Daniels products are bourbons.
Bourbon is a grain whiskey from a mash that is more than 50% corn and aged in a new charred oak barrel for (it used to be 4 years) a minimum length of time.
Every American whiskey has the same requirement except for the content of the mash.
It is unlikely that anyone making any whiskey in America but rye whiskey would use less than 50% corn.
(Corn Whisky is aged in a new uncharred oak barrel.
Irish and Scotch whiskeys use malted barley and are not required to be aged in new barrels)

[Samm]

As I have stated before.
I would wager that most if not all of Jack Daniels products are bourbons.
Bourbon is a grain whiskey from a mash that is more than 50% corn and aged in a new charred oak barrel for (it used to be 4 years) a minimum length of time.
Every American whiskey has the same requirement except for the content of the mash.
It is unlikely that anyone making any whiskey in America but rye whiskey would use less than 50% corn.
(Corn Whisky is aged in a new uncharred oak barrel.
Irish and Scotch whiskeys use malted barley and are not required to be aged in new barrels)

Legally, yes, that is true, but I don't think there is a Bourbon in Kentucky that contains less than 70% corn, so as far as flavor is concerned that is what people consider to be the minimum corn content of bourbon. And Tennessee corn whisky is usually charcoal filtered... Kentucky Bourbon usually is not.

I stumbled across a quote regarding Jack Daniels No. 7 that I like: "Too expensive to mix. Not good enough to drink straight."

I believe that Kentucky distilleries sell their used oak barrels to Scotch and Irish distillers to be used to age their products.

[captusa]

Legally, yes, that is true, but I don't think there is a Bourbon in Kentucky that contains less than 70% corn, so as far as flavor is concerned that is what people consider to be the minimum corn content of bourbon. And Tennessee corn whisky is usually charcoal filtered... Kentucky Bourbon usually is not.

I stumbled across a quote regarding Jack Daniels No. 7 that I like: "Too expensive to mix. Not good enough to drink straight."

I believe that Kentucky distilleries sell their used oak barrels to Scotch and Irish distillers to be used to age their products.

Most whiskey is charcoal filtered and I believe Maker's Mark uses a special filtering process.

My only point is that most whiskey made by Jack Daniels is most likely bourbon (50+% corn and aged in charred barrels.
It is possible they use a different mash but unlikely.
If a bourbon manufactuer ran out of corn he couldn't produce bourbon.
By not using the name bourbon Daniels can use any blend of mash available.

Also since every other country does not require new barrels there is always more used barrels then there is a market for.
Chevas boasts of their hundred year old sherry barrels.
Barrels are also scraped clean and use to store and ship neutral spirits.

[Samm]

...since every other country does not require new barrels there is always more used barrels then there is a market for.


I know... I have used several as planters over the years. ;)

[mryukon]

Returned from the trip to the liquor warehouse. Nothing noteworthy, I did save $5 on a bottle of WR. I came this close to buying a bottle of Macallan 15 yr old single malt scotch. They were asking $65. Maybe next go 'round I'll try it, for now I will stick with what I like.

[captusa]

Returned from the trip to the liquor warehouse. Nothing noteworthy, I did save $5 on a bottle of WR. I came this close to buying a bottle of Macallan 15 yr old single malt scotch. They were asking $65. Maybe next go 'round I'll try it, for now I will stick with what I like.

My son was given a bottle (earthen jug) of 21 year old Chevas "Royal Salute"
Is anyone familiar with the product (and approx. price)

[mryukon]

Capt, a quick google and I found these two websites:

http://www.wineglobe.com/10200.html

http://www.cigarpass.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=28905

Interesting review (second link).

[Samm]

My son was given a bottle (earthen jug) of 21 year old Chevas "Royal Salute"
Is anyone familiar with the product (and approx. price)

At $130 - $160 per bottle (on-line; more in your corner liquor store) it damn well better be good!

[captusa]

Capt, a quick google and I found these two websites:

http://www.wineglobe.com/10200.html

http://www.cigarpass.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=28905

Interesting review (second link).

Thanks!
Now my son has to find a Scotch drinker with a spare C.

Like Johnnie Walker Blue and The Whyte & Mackay 30, The Royal Salute is one of the top blends you can buy.
Single malt drinkers might consider this a back-handed compliment.

[mryukon]

I understand the concept of blends vs. single malt (barrel) I'm not sure my taste buds are in tune enough to notice the differences. Bottom line is I enjoy a good cocktail regardless of blend or barrel.

[captusa]

At $130 - $160 per bottle (on-line; more in your corner liquor store) it damn well better be good!

I saw some things I wanted on the web. (Yellowstone bourbon for example)
Shipping costs made the list prices almost irrelevent. (in my price range).
Some of the bottles my son got are 86 proof for brands that are now 80 proof.
Crown Royal for example.
BTW I consider 80 proof bourbon to be unAmerican.

[Samm]

I saw some things I wanted on the web. (Yellowstone bourbon for example)
Shipping costs made the list prices almost irrelevent. (in my price range).
Some of the bottles my son got are 86 proof for brands that are now 80 proof.
Crown Royal for example.
BTW I consider 80 proof bourbon to be unAmerican.

Fortunately... so do Kentuckians. ;)

[mryukon]

I think I am becoming a bourbon-head. I've been doing some light reading on the different aspects of the distillation/aging process and how it effects the flavor of the bourbon. It is fascinating to say the least. So I think the next logical step for me would be to develop my taste buds by drinking more bourbon. :mrgreen: With the intent not to get drunk but to fully realize the flavor of the beverage.

Incidentally, I have in front of me right now about 3 fingers of WR, Bottle #9335 from Batch #383. One cube of ice. Nice.

[Samm]

I think I am becoming a bourbon-head. I've been doing some light reading on the different aspects of the distillation/aging process and how it effects the flavor of the bourbon. It is fascinating to say the least. So I think the next logical step for me would be to develop my taste buds by drinking more bourbon. :mrgreen: With the intent not to get drunk but to fully realize the flavor of the beverage.

Incidentally, I have in front of me right now about 3 fingers of WR, Bottle #9335 from Batch #383. One cube of ice. Nice.

The first step is to quit pretending that you like Scotch. ;)

[mryukon]

Right you are, Samm. I wouldn't want to confuse my taste buds...

[Samm]

Well, I finally found a bottle of Woodford Reserve. I will give you my verdict soon.

[mryukon]

Enjoy, Samm.

[CID_0687]

Well, I finally found a bottle of Woodford Reserve. I will give you my verdict soon.
Hope you got your sweet tooth ready. :)

[captusa]

The first step is to quit pretending that you like Scotch. ;)

That is the hard part!
The pretentious explanation is "You have to develope a taste for Scotch."

[mryukon]

My apologies for the pretentious explanation. That was not my intent.

[Samm]

Hope you got your sweet tooth ready. :)

I usually snack of something like wheat thins or cashews when I am sipping my evening bourbon. Are you suggesting something else? Chocolate perhaps? :eh:

[CID_0687]

I usually snack of something like wheat thins or cashews when I am sipping my evening bourbon. Are you suggesting something else? Chocolate perhaps? :eh:
I'm sorry, I should have explained further...Woodford is some very fine Bourbon...but compared to most it is very sweet. That's all I was meaning...and I'm sure that by now you have realized as such. I hope you enjoyed it. :) I've enjoyed quite a bit of Maker's myself this evening. :dance:

[Samm]

Yes CID... Woodfords Reserve is a very fine bourbon... I can now attest to that with confidence. I think I have reached the limit of my ability to distinguish which of the top shelf brands I have tried is best. They are all slightly different, but I cannot pick a favorite. Maybe that will be refined with time. WB, MM and Bulleit are all tops in my book, but for the money, JB Black is the best value. I did not particularly like Knob Creek, particularly at the price. Although it does have great character.

My quest will continue... I would eventually like to try Bookers and Bakers (and candlestick makers ;) )

[nikoloslvy]

jim beam..cant stand jack.
drink it by the glass fulls.
anyone who knows me well enough knows my drink order.
4 shots of jim beam and an emptey glass.1 huge glass of coke with slices of lemon and sugar.keep lemon slices in coke an add sugar to coke.pour 4 shots in empty glass.inhale..sip on coke as chaser.repeat....where am i?...

[mryukon]

Glad you enjoyed your WR, Samm. It is not which is the finest bourbon, but the quest to find it. Next on my list is Bulleit. I've only seen it offered at one establishment so it may be a while before I can try it.

[chip]

Easy

Boodles.

[Samm]

Glad you enjoyed your WR, Samm. It is not which is the finest bourbon, but the quest to find it. Next on my list is Bulleit. I've only seen it offered at one establishment so it may be a while before I can try it.

I am particularly fond of the Bulleit bottle... it has a lot of nostalgic class.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_gLJopL2jr3A/SIO9dPmk0TI/AAAAAAAAAB8/FNWgKECf8Ic/s320/lastad.jpg

[Samm]

The Knob Creek bottle is great too...


http://www.thenibble.com/reviews/main/fish/seafood/images/knob-creek-bourbon-230.gif

Maybe I should buy JB Black and put it into Bulleit and Knob Creek bottles... :think:

[Samm]

Glad you enjoyed your WR, Samm. It is not which is the finest bourbon, but the quest to find it. Next on my list is Bulleit. I've only seen it offered at one establishment so it may be a while before I can try it.

So... any luck?

[mryukon]

No luck, Samm. We were at 2 different stores today and could not find a bottle of Bulleit. I'll have to get by with the remaining WR. I know it sucks, but I think I'll manage to get through it somehow. :mrgreen:

[GA_LP]

The Knob Creek bottle is great too...


http://www.thenibble.com/reviews/main/fish/seafood/images/knob-creek-bourbon-230.gif

Maybe I should buy JB Black and put it into Bulleit and Knob Creek bottles... :think::eek: :eh: Sacriledge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But, hey, they're your bottles man. :D






Of course, it doesn't hurt that JB makes Knob Creek.

[Samm]

:eek: :eh: Sacriledge!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But, hey, they're your bottles man. :D


Of course, it doesn't hurt that JB makes Knob Creek.


I learned that trick from Archie Bunker... he would "age" scotch by pouring cheap stuff into a Pinch bottle. ;)

At least it can be argued that JB Black is nearly on par with Bulleit and Knob Creek... (I actually like it better than Knob Creek) it wouldn't be much of a sin. :shifty:

[captusa]

I learned that trick from Archie Bunker... he would "age" scotch by pouring cheap stuff into a Pinch bottle. ;)

At least it can be argued that JB Black is nearly on par with Bulleit and Knob Creek... (I actually like it better than Knob Creek) it wouldn't be much of a sin. :shifty:

Jim Beam is not close to being my favorite but on a history channel show on bourbons it mentioned members of the Beam family as master brewer(I forgot the correct term) for several of the brands I do like.
Including J.T.S. Brown (featured in the Hustler and Color of Money.

[Samm]

Jim Beam is not close to being my favorite but on a history channel show on bourbons it mentioned members of the Beam family as master brewer(I forgot the correct term) for several of the brands I do like.
Including J.T.S. Brown (featured in the Hustler and Color of Money.

Jim Beam White label or Black label? There is a significant difference in taste. I don't care much for the White myself.

Yeah... It was that show that got me interested in top shelf bourbon...

I just saw a bourbon marked "new item" on the shelf at the Safeway Oaken Keg yesterday that I had not seen before. It was a short math symbol... (e^2) or something like that... no label... printed on the glass. It was pricey... over 40 bucks... too much to just "try it out." Anybody else seen such a brand?

[mryukon]

This is such a great topic I had to rekindle the interest. Unfortunately I have not been able to acquire Bulleit up to this point, but it's in the crosshairs. :)

We'll be heading to Nawlins to meet up with my bro and sis in law. Haven't seen them in a couple of years so good times :dance: just don't hate cause I'll be having Hurricanes instead of Bourbon on Bourbon Street...

[godispeace5000]

Used to be the old Kentucky Bourbon - Southern Comfort! That stuff laid me out though! SHEEWOO!!

[Samm]

Used to be the old Kentucky Bourbon - Southern Comfort! That stuff laid me out though! SHEEWOO!!

I hate to tell you, but Southern Comfort, as tasty as it is, is not bourbon... not even close. And its from New Orleans, not Kentucky.

BTW... If you want to save money, you can make a very passable Southern Comfort taste-a-like by mixing apricot brandy with 7-up.

[Samm]

This is such a great topic I had to rekindle the interest. Unfortunately I have not been able to acquire Bulleit up to this point, but it's in the crosshairs. :)

We'll be heading to Nawlins to meet up with my bro and sis in law. Haven't seen them in a couple of years so good times :dance: just don't hate cause I'll be having Hurricanes instead of Bourbon on Bourbon Street...

If you cannot find Bulleit in Nawlins I don't know where you will find it. I find it very odd that I find it in pretty nearly every liquor store in town here in Fairbanks and you can't find it down there (where ever there is.)

I saw a bottle of Wild Turkey Rare Breed on the shelf today... great looking bottle... I almost bought it, but it was a bit pricey... almost 43 bucks. I haven't tried the 12-year old WT either... it goes for about $38 here. Considering I can get a bottle of JB Black (which I like just fine) for under $19 or Makers Mark for $28 that seems a bit much. It can't be twice as good as JB.

[mryukon]

2 hours NW of Nawlins. Crown Royal is very popular here. I like it, bottle, glasss, rocks, neat, no matter. Crown is good, Bourbon is better.

So Samm, you've enjoyed Bulleit, you've enjoyed Woodford Reserve. Compare them please.

[Samm]

2 hours NW of Nawlins. Crown Royal is very popular here. I like it, bottle, glasss, rocks, neat, no matter. Crown is good, Bourbon is better.

So Samm, you've enjoyed Bulleit, you've enjoyed Woodford Reserve. Compare them please.

I think the WR is smoother... classier... I like it a lot. The Bulleit is grittier... more manly... but full of flavor and after the first couple of sips it goes down as well as the WR. Again, considering the price difference, the Bulleit is probably a better value.

So far, of the top bourbons I have tried, the WR is probably the best and the Knob Creek my least favorite (a little sharp for my taste) even less so than the JB Black. If I were to make a plot of taste vs. price, the JBB would fair very well with any higher price whiskeys, but I think perhaps MM would come out tops. Bottom line though, is I like them all even the KC. This has been a very educational trip for me and it is not quite over... I will probably be trying other top shelf bourbons from now on like I try new beers.

[troy]

I like Knob Creek and Gentleman Jack. There are single malts out there that are very good also. I'm not much for the cheap blended ones, unless I've already had a few and I'm mixing it. Drinking kills brain cells, but only the weak ones.

[Samm]

I like Knob Creek and Gentleman Jack. There are single malts out there that are very good also. I'm not much for the cheap blended ones, unless I've already had a few and I'm mixing it. Drinking kills brain cells, but only the weak ones.

We already covered it... Gentleman Jack is not actually a bourbon; it's Tennessee whiskey. But considering how excellent it is, we are not offended. In fact, that is what I am drinking right now. ;)

[Samm]

Mr Yukon... I have a message for you from Mr M.

http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=59403371&postcount=4080

[troy]

We already covered it... Gentleman Jack is not actually a bourbon; it's Tennessee whiskey. But considering how excellent it is, we are not offended. In fact, that is what I am drinking right now. ;)

You're correct. I really did know that...really. It is excellent I must say. I like mine in a small tumbler with lots of ice.