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cj234
June 23rd, 2009, 8:01 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRpDHfmZAOI


"Is common sense alive in NYC? I sent Brian Sack out into the streets of New York to see if he could get liberals to agree with excerpts from my new book, Common Sense, without mentioning my name."


Gotta love this!!!!!

jbthe20th
June 23rd, 2009, 8:27 pm
Wow.... generic points that everyone agrees on.... and they agree with it!

It's the reasonable wing of Mr. Beck.

cj234
June 23rd, 2009, 8:37 pm
Wow.... generic points that everyone agrees on.... and they agree with it!

It's the reasonable wing of Mr. Beck.


Fact is that if they knew it was from Glenn Becks book they would of denouned it!

rckirby
June 23rd, 2009, 8:41 pm
Glenn Beck is non-partisan.....

If people would throw off their party blinders they would see and understand.

Its not a football game folks....its more than my guy vs your guy.

Whatever party you "align" yourself with.....read up on economics 101....with a healthy dose of Constitution 101.

If you have any common sense at all, you will see that BOTH parties and MOST career politicians DO NOT have the best interests of this country at heart.....only their own egos and self preservation.

Samm
June 23rd, 2009, 8:43 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRpDHfmZAOI


"Is common sense alive in NYC? I sent Brian Sack out into the streets of New York to see if he could get liberals to agree with excerpts from my new book, Common Sense, without mentioning my name."


Gotta love this!!!!!

I watched that on Glenn's show last night... soooo predictable. That one lady looked like she was going to be sick when she found out that all of those positions she agreed with were from Glenn's book. :))

In fairness, a few of those Liberals reacted favorably to finding out that they agreed with Glenn. I'm sure they had never listened to Glenn and only "knew" what they knew of him from Liberal sources.

cj234
June 23rd, 2009, 8:46 pm
Glenn Beck is non-partisan.....

If people would throw off their party blinders they would see and understand.

Its not a football game folks....its more than my guy vs your guy.

Whatever party you "align" yourself with.....read up on economics 101....with a healthy dose of Constitution 101.

If you have any common sense at all, you will see that BOTH parties and MOST career politicians DO NOT have the best interests of this country at heart.....only their own egos and self preservation.


Well said!!

jbthe20th
June 23rd, 2009, 8:48 pm
Fact is that if they knew it was from Glenn Becks book they would of denouned it!

If they had given specific points of Mr. Beck, and not the generic ones, then they would highly disagree.

How about if the man had said: "Do you think that GE agreed to have favorable coverage of Barack Obama in exchange for subsidies for wind and solar generation?" Or "Is ACORN out to destroy American democracy?"

The video asked:
1) Do you agree that the Government spent too much money over the past decade? (Note that the question said decade, but that was omitted in the graphic. And 8 years of GWB does mean something).

2) "At over 70,000 pages, the tax code is way too complex" (graphic: Tax Code is too complicated).... Push polling.

3) "Politicians look out for themselves first and us last." (graphic: politicians serve themselves first). Four were shown. Two said yes, two were hesitant to answer the question directly (one said "put it in context," the other said that it's complicated)...

4) Eminent domain question: "[inaudible] should be allowed to seize your house and build a shopping mall." (Graphic: eminent domain should be limited). One said that he was completely against eminent domain; the rest disagree with that statement. Obviously, in the context of a shopping mall, there would be some resentment.

5) "Government should rely less on politics, and more on Common Sense" (Graphic: leaders use more common sense). Well stop the presses! The only thing is that what is common sense? It's different to Glenn Beck than it is to me than it is to a heavy liberal. It's like a question "do you agree that chocolate is yummy?"

Furthermore, the answers have been heavily edited. I'm not sure what to make of it.

cj234
June 23rd, 2009, 8:57 pm
If they had given specific points of Mr. Beck, and not the generic ones, then they would highly disagree.

How about if the man had said: "Do you think that GE agreed to have favorable coverage of Barack Obama in exchange for subsidies for wind and solar generation?" Or "Is ACORN out to destroy American democracy?"

The video asked:
1) Do you agree that the Government spent too much money over the past decade? (Note that the question said decade, but that was omitted in the graphic. And 8 years of GWB does mean something).

2) "At over 70,000 pages, the tax code is way too complex" (graphic: Tax Code is too complicated).... Push polling.

3) "Politicians look out for themselves first and us last." (graphic: politicians serve themselves first). Four were shown. Two said yes, two were hesitant to answer the question directly (one said "put it in context," the other said that it's complicated)...

4) Eminent domain question: "[inaudible] should be allowed to seize your house and build a shopping mall." (Graphic: eminent domain should be limited). One said that he was completely against eminent domain; the rest disagree with that statement. Obviously, in the context of a shopping mall, there would be some resentment.

5) "Government should rely less on politics, and more on Common Sense" (Graphic: leaders use more common sense). Well stop the presses! The only thing is that what is common sense? It's different to Glenn Beck than it is to me than it is to a heavy liberal. It's like a question "do you agree that chocolate is yummy?"

Furthermore, the answers have been heavily edited. I'm not sure what to make of it.

Missed the point!!! It made most of them look like fools when they found out who wrote the book!!! No matter how "specific points " they where!!!

jbthe20th
June 23rd, 2009, 9:01 pm
Missed the point!!! It made most of them look like fools when they found out who wrote the book!!! No matter how "specific points " they where!!!

Pat Robertson could have asked me "do you think that politicians aren't doing enough for Americans"? And I would have said "yes." It does not mean that I agree with Robertson.

Those statements are very very vague. And they were chosen to be vague and uncontroversial. If Sean Hannity asked me "do you love America?" I would have responded yes. It does not mean that I agree with Hannity. Is this starting to sink in?

cj234
June 23rd, 2009, 9:08 pm
Pat Robertson could have asked me "do you think that politicians aren't doing enough for Americans"? And I would have said "yes." It does not mean that I agree with Robertson.

Those statements are very very vague. And they were chosen to be vague and uncontroversial. If Sean Hannity asked me "do you love America?" I would have responded yes. It does not mean that I agree with Hannity. Is this starting to sink in?


I will say this slowly!!!!!! :doh: I wouldn't have been freaked out when I found out that I was agreeing with someone from a different party!!!!!!! Like it was a lethal disease!!!

jbthe20th
June 23rd, 2009, 9:15 pm
I will say this slowly!!!!!! :doh: I wouldn't have been freaked out when I found out that I was agreeing with someone from a different party!!!!!!! Like it was a lethal disease!!!

You're right. They came off as idiots. And their reaction was really stupid because of the oversimplification of the points. Perhaps it's psychology, but people for some reason don't believe that they can agree on even the most basic points.

And you say that had they known it was Glenn Beck, they would have denounced it; I counter with had the points been more specific, the interviewees would have disagreed with it.

TheModerateOne
June 23rd, 2009, 9:16 pm
I counter with had the points been more specific, the interviewees would have disagreed with it.

Sure. And if my aunt had testicles she'd be my uncle.

jbthe20th
June 23rd, 2009, 9:17 pm
Have you seen the video?

cj234
June 23rd, 2009, 9:20 pm
Sure. And if my aunt had testicles she'd be my uncle.


:)):)):)):))

Tulsa
June 23rd, 2009, 9:21 pm
Have you seen the video?

Have you read the book?

McCoyFan
June 23rd, 2009, 9:25 pm
Sure. And if my aunt had testicles she'd be my uncle.


....is chastity bono your aunt

TheModerateOne
June 23rd, 2009, 9:26 pm
Have you seen the video?

Sure, jb. I won't just drive by you here. In all seriousness I think it's silly to play the hypothetical in a game where people are almost always asked questions in generalities. The average guy or gal out there don't know the specifics anyway. To be honest I feel when confronted with specifics people are unsure of, said people will usually agree in a fruitless attempt to be seen as knowing said specifics. Just let things be as they are, man.

rckirby
June 23rd, 2009, 9:26 pm
You're right. They came off as idiots. And their reaction was really stupid because of the oversimplification of the points. Perhaps it's psychology, but people for some reason don't believe that they can agree on even the most basic points.

And you say that had they known it was Glenn Beck, they would have denounced it; I counter with had the points been more specific, the interviewees would have disagreed with it.

Sorry dude....common sense is common sense.....take your partisan blinders off.

You are exactly what is wrong with our country....always looking for 'loopholes'.

TheModerateOne
June 23rd, 2009, 9:26 pm
....is chastity bono your aunt

You owe me a Diet Coke now, sir. Lol

Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese
June 23rd, 2009, 9:39 pm
It's nonpartisan if you consider the John Birch Society nonpartisan.

shaveking
June 23rd, 2009, 9:41 pm
Have you read the book?If those are the kind of points being presented in the book, I have to question why anyone would read it.

caterwaul
June 23rd, 2009, 9:46 pm
JB is right.
Segment's questions were vague.

rckirby
June 23rd, 2009, 9:48 pm
If those are the kind of points being presented in the book, I have to question why anyone would read it.

Yet, surprisingly, it will become a best seller. Common sense isn't dead yet in this country.

cj234
June 23rd, 2009, 10:01 pm
Yet, surprisingly, it will become a best seller. Common sense isn't dead yet in this country.

After reading the book many could come away with a more united view of are country. We where united ater 9/11. Why did it take such a catastrophe to do so? We still where able to disagree with each other, but we where united! His book shows how, just the fact, we have thrown common sense out the window, and it very well could be the demise of our great country.

shaveking
June 23rd, 2009, 10:04 pm
Yet, surprisingly, it will become a best seller. Common sense isn't dead yet in this country.Why would you read a book on common sense?

"Hmm yep... I already know that... he's right that is common sense... yep that too..."

penner01
June 23rd, 2009, 10:10 pm
Glenn Beck is non-partisan.....

If people would throw off their party blinders they would see and understand.

Its not a football game folks....its more than my guy vs your guy.

Whatever party you "align" yourself with.....read up on economics 101....with a healthy dose of Constitution 101.

If you have any common sense at all, you will see that BOTH parties and MOST career politicians DO NOT have the best interests of this country at heart.....only their own egos and self preservation.I'm not sure you are far off, rckirby. Republicans and Democrats use the party mantle when it's useful but mostly it's about their concept of what should be. Too, when you look at the incestuous nature of DC, it doesn't make any difference whether they are repub or dem.........the tentacles surround them all.

cj234
June 23rd, 2009, 10:15 pm
Why would you read a book on common sense?

"Hmm yep... I already know that... he's right that is common sense... yep that too..."

It really shines a light on how far are government has strayed away from good old common sense. The left and right!

rckirby
June 23rd, 2009, 10:20 pm
I'm not sure you are far off, rckirby. Republicans and Democrats use the party mantle when it's useful but mostly it's about their concept of what should be. Too, when you look at the incestuous nature of DC, it doesn't make any difference whether they are repub or dem.........the tentacles surround them all.

I'm sick of all of them. They have made their "positions" a life-time career.

Any "government" job is a lifetime career if you play it right.

I want to return to the day when any local/state/federal position was PART TIME. You went to your state capital, or DC, in order to protect your constituents.

When did it become a lifetime job with full bennies at our expense?

margaretms
June 23rd, 2009, 10:41 pm
If they had given specific points of Mr. Beck, and not the generic ones, then they would highly disagree.

How about if the man had said: "Do you think that GE agreed to have favorable coverage of Barack Obama in exchange for subsidies for wind and solar generation?" Or "Is ACORN out to destroy American democracy?"

The video asked:
1) Do you agree that the Government spent too much money over the past decade? (Note that the question said decade, but that was omitted in the graphic. And 8 years of GWB does mean something).

2) "At over 70,000 pages, the tax code is way too complex" (graphic: Tax Code is too complicated).... Push polling.

3) "Politicians look out for themselves first and us last." (graphic: politicians serve themselves first). Four were shown. Two said yes, two were hesitant to answer the question directly (one said "put it in context," the other said that it's complicated)...

4) Eminent domain question: "[inaudible] should be allowed to seize your house and build a shopping mall." (Graphic: eminent domain should be limited). One said that he was completely against eminent domain; the rest disagree with that statement. Obviously, in the context of a shopping mall, there would be some resentment.

5) "Government should rely less on politics, and more on Common Sense" (Graphic: leaders use more common sense). Well stop the presses! The only thing is that what is common sense? It's different to Glenn Beck than it is to me than it is to a heavy liberal. It's like a question "do you agree that chocolate is yummy?"

Furthermore, the answers have been heavily edited. I'm not sure what to make of it.

Pretty bland, anodyne stuff--but the exercise does succeed, ultimately, in turning attention to...Glenn (as well as dumb reactions to Glenn). In a similar exercise, I guess I could ask right wingers here if they believe that Marxism is a plague and a poison.

LouC
June 23rd, 2009, 10:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRpDHfmZAOI


"Is common sense alive in NYC? I sent Brian Sack out into the streets of New York to see if he could get liberals to agree with excerpts from my new book, Common Sense, without mentioning my name."


Gotta love this!!!!!

Highly edited piece.

I would like to see the unedited tape.

Death Star
June 23rd, 2009, 10:47 pm
I refuse to listen to and/or watch someone who claims to be the "3rd most listened to show in America" - when that statement is just plain, verifiably wrong. He starts every show out with a lie - so I turn him off.

cj234
June 23rd, 2009, 10:49 pm
I refuse to listen to and/or watch someone who claims to be the "3rd most listened to show in America" - when that statement is just plain, verifiably wrong. He starts every show out with a lie - so I turn him off.



Point made!!!! No common sense!!!!!

BasicGreatGuy
June 23rd, 2009, 10:53 pm
Why not ask people specifics about the book as to perceived partisanship? That would have been the logical thing to do. What was done in the video, was nothing more than sheep herding to promote the book.

I haven't read the book in question, so I can't comment on whether or not the book as written is partisan.

Edited to add: I would rather read Paine than Glenn Beck.

JQR
June 23rd, 2009, 10:56 pm
I think Mr. Beck has lost all of his common sense. Today I saw a portion of his show where he was criticizing the first lady for getting a school to start a garden that would be tended by the students and the vegetables would be sold to help the school.
I was shocked, I don't agree with Beck on everything but sometimes he makes good points but this was way out of line.
He was saying stuff like "that's what charities are for."
What is wrong with a school having a garden? The children learn something and it helps the school out as well.
Mr. Beck is off his rocker. He is trying too hard to find things to criticize the Obamas over.

margaretms
June 23rd, 2009, 10:58 pm
I refuse to listen to and/or watch someone who claims to be the "3rd most listened to show in America" - when that statement is just plain, verifiably wrong. He starts every show out with a lie - so I turn him off.

Well, he certainly feels things strongly.

PeterGriffin
June 23rd, 2009, 11:04 pm
And then he sobbed.

toreyj01
June 23rd, 2009, 11:27 pm
1. Do you believe that communism and socialism is one of the main evils in this world?
2. Do you believe that a main source of our country's woes lies with the corruptness of congress?
3. Do you believe that our country has a special destiny for greatness?

If you answered yes to all 3 questions, congratulations! Heres the book for you! Mein Kampf!

Those are the tenets of Mein Kampf, but thats not really what the book is about, is it? You cannot clip arbitrary and generic terms and fool people like that, its extremely hamhanded and frankly, a little desperate.

cj234
June 23rd, 2009, 11:53 pm
This is pure bull. You libs don't agree with any of that. You'll say you do because you don't want to come across as a fascist, but then you go right ahead and elect fascists like Obama and Pelosi into office. You then support everything they do, no matter how fascist it is, and no matter how indefensible the position.

If liberals honestly agreed with those points then they would not be liberals in the first place. They are either liars (as described above) or they are friggin morons who vote for politicians that promote policies that don't agree with the ideals in those points.

Well said! But do you think they would ever admit it? :rolleyes:

Mike88
June 24th, 2009, 1:54 am
1. Do you believe that communism and socialism is one of the main evils in this world?
2. Do you believe that a main source of our country's woes lies with the corruptness of congress?
3. Do you believe that our country has a special destiny for greatness?

If you answered yes to all 3 questions, congratulations! Heres the book for you! Mein Kampf!

Those are the tenets of Mein Kampf, but thats not really what the book is about, is it? You cannot clip arbitrary and generic terms and fool people like that, its extremely hamhanded and frankly, a little desperate.


If Hitler believed socialism was one of the main evils of the world, then why did he use it as his governing philosophy? You do know what "NAZI" means right? It was the national socialist party of Germany. Your argument is weak because of this.

Samm
June 24th, 2009, 5:45 am
The Lib responses in here are typical of all those Liberals who have a preconceived idea (been instructed by the Liberal media and blogosphere) about Beck... I'm betting they would have looked just as foolish as those folks in the video had they been asked those questions and not know they were formulated out of Beck's book. :))

Kosher Ham
June 24th, 2009, 7:47 am
If Hitler believed socialism was one of the main evils of the world, then why did he use it as his governing philosophy? You do know what "NAZI" means right? It was the national socialist party of Germany. Your argument is weak because of this.

They used a racially-oriented version of fascism as their philosophy. They may use the word socialism- but they did not use it as a governing philosophy. Point still stands about generic, vague ideas being meaningless because they contain no substance.

toreyj01
June 24th, 2009, 10:40 am
If Hitler believed socialism was one of the main evils of the world, then why did he use it as his governing philosophy? You do know what "NAZI" means right? It was the national socialist party of Germany. Your argument is weak because of this.

Hitler's fascist party was called national socialism, but it was far from left wing.

You know little about political theory, perhaps you should read a bit more before commenting.

Regards,

Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese
June 24th, 2009, 10:42 am
The Lib responses in here are typical of all those Liberals who have a preconceived idea (been instructed by the Liberal media and blogosphere) about Beck... I'm betting they would have looked just as foolish as those folks in the video had they been asked those questions and not know they were formulated out of Beck's book. :))

I read An Inconvenient Book and I think he's just shy of being one of those New World Oder types.

Samm
June 24th, 2009, 9:18 pm
I read An Inconvenient Book and I think he's just shy of being one of those New World Oder types.

Not the New World Order... that is so blasé; the dreams of GHWB and his old cronies... Beck is a supporter of the New New World Order; the one in which governments GET THE HELL OUT OF EVERY ONE'S LIVES.

TRIMS713
June 24th, 2009, 9:44 pm
Glenn Beck is non-partisan.....

If people would throw off their party blinders they would see and understand.

Its not a football game folks....its more than my guy vs your guy.

Whatever party you "align" yourself with.....read up on economics 101....with a healthy dose of Constitution 101.

If you have any common sense at all, you will see that BOTH parties and MOST career politicians DO NOT have the best interests of this country at heart.....only their own egos and self preservation.

I like Beck,in fact I like him a lot but I don't know who he's FOR. He calls himself a libertarian but he doesn't name any libertarian candidates that he thinks would make a good president. The only poitician who I've heard him say he admires is Senator Jim Demint. Demint is a staunch conservative who is a member of the Republican Party,he's not a libertarian.