Teachers paid for doing nothing

[uncledoom]

No...not in the sense that they are doing a crappy job. These guys are literally doing nothing....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_on_re_us/us_rubber_rooms

[DRS]

Are people innocnet until proven otherwise?

[Apatriot]

No...not in the sense that they are doing a crappy job. These guys are literally doing nothing....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_on_re_us/us_rubber_rooms

Well, reading the article, some seem to be in the right. For example, the art teacher who was cut with scissors, and now is being accused of using abusive language.

I'm human. If a kid cuts me with scissors, they are going to be learning some new vocabulary.....

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Are people innocnet until proven otherwise?

The OP seems to disagree.

Aren't police and other public officials (and private employees for that matter) often suspended with pay when accused?

[Streelsh]

It is true that some teachers - like some police and some doctors and some carpenters and some POLITICIANS (try MANY politicians) should be eliminated just as in every group of occupation there are people who should be eliminated but the OVERWHELMING number of teachers are hardworking dedicated individuals. It is true that they have two months off during the summer and their workday is from 8:00AM to 3:30 but there are many - like my wife - who are IN SCHOOL before 7:00 AM preparing after working home 2, or even 3 or 3-1/2, hours in the evening. Half of each SUNDAY is consumed with preparing for the following week in addition

To brand ALL teachers - or even MOST teachers - as being lazy and having an easy job is no more valid than by saying that ALL office workers, for example. spend most of their time goofing off or that by 5:01PM they have been out of the office for 59 seconds


Many teachers are the victims of crimes against their person or their property by their own students or have to contend with parents who don't take responsibility for their own children. Many teachers have to teach completely tired children who roam the streets at nights while their parents get a "visit" from their "aunt" or "uncle" who more than just sleeps with the father or mother

[5thIDSoldier]

The schools should have the option of not paying them while under investigation. Every other organization I know of, including unionized work places, has that ability.

The idiots in the school system who signed a union contract with that kind of clause in it are as stupid as they come.

[stoked]

I think some of these college profs teach like one class and collect a full-time salary.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

The schools should have the option of not paying them while under investigation. Every other organization I know of, including unionized work places, has that ability.
I disagree. I think certain professions are more likely to have false (or overblown) accusations thrown at them. I have no problem with them being suspended with pay until otherwise proven at fault. I do have a problem with the investigations taking as long as indicated for some in that article.

[jimjames418]

The schools should have the option of not paying them while under investigation. Every other organization I know of, including unionized work places, has that ability.

The idiots in the school system who signed a union contract with that kind of clause in it are as stupid as they come.
Reminds me of GM and the UAW. :razz:

A strong union with common sense is a good thing, a strong union with the desire to "stick it" to the man is the worst thing.

Why not spend a little of that $65 million on some additional investigators/judges or have the present ones work more than 5 days a month. That would be common sense, which seems to be lacking here.

[jimjames418]

I disagree. I think certain professions are more likely to have false (or overblown) accusations thrown at them. I have no problem with them being suspended with pay until otherwise proven at fault. I do have a problem with the investigations taking as long as indicated for some in that article.
The district where I worked once proposed putting cameras in the classrooms to record student and teacher actions. I'll give you one guess on who threatend a strike if the cameras were put in place. :doh:

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

The district where I worked once proposed putting cameras in the classrooms to record student and teacher actions. I'll give you one guess on who threatend a strike if the cameras were put in place. :doh:
I can understand their concern, but in reality it would certainly protect them.

[Socrates]

I know I had a few teachers in school who got paid for doing nothing.

[uncledoom]

Sorry for the vague OP....didn't have time to finish. My whole take is that:

1) I'm surprised that many teachers are under some sort of scrutnity that would keep them out of class.

2) Instead sitting around playing scrabble, I'd tell them to go home or have them do something useful...paper work, filing....there's got to be something.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Instead sitting around playing scrabble, I'd tell them to go home or have them do something useful...paper work, filing....there's got to be something.I'd agree with that.