Psychic John Edward Fake?

[muhadeeb99]

Sean hannity will have a famous psychic on tonite. Is he a fake? If he is not, how does he do it? Does he really crossover and communicate with the dead?
Personally, I don't believe he can. There is no scientific proof that any one can channel their thoughts to dead people. Once they're gone they're gone.

[LouC]

Sean hannity will have a famous psychic on tonite. Is he a fake? If he is not, how does he do it? Does he really crossover and communicate with the dead?
Personally, I don't believe he can. There is no scientific proof that any one can channel their thoughts to dead people. Once they're gone they're gone.

If he can talk to the dead he must be a Liberal cause I can't see a Conservative making a living off of communicating only with Democratic voters. :whistle:

I feel he is a fake.

[muhadeeb99]

For the most part, Lou, people look for these kinds of phenomena to fill a need. I think it's a need to connect with a lost loved one. I thought by posting in gen topics i was insulated from ghostly politics. LOL

[EnchantedFrog]

For the most part, Lou, people look for these kinds of phenomena to fill a need. I think it's a need to connect with a lost loved one. I thought by posting in gen topics i was insulated from ghostly politics. LOL
For Edwards, however, the need he wanted to fill was his wallet.

[LouC]

For the most part, Lou, people look for these kinds of phenomena to fill a need. I think it's a need to connect with a lost loved one. I thought by posting in gen topics i was insulated from ghostly politics. LOL

Sorry, but, well, um, sorry. :redface:

Can't help myself sometimes. :)

Of course people look for an outside artificial means to fill a need, to "give" them closure or an imagined continued "link" to those who have passed.

They don't know how to do this on their own, come to terms as it were, so if someone walks in the room claiming they can of course the susceptible will jump on it.

Some of this is driven by guilt or denial but it is easily exploited by fakes.

[Buffalo]

Sean hannity will have a famous psychic on tonite. Is he a fake? If he is not, how does he do it? Does he really crossover and communicate with the dead?
Personally, I don't believe he can. There is no scientific proof that any one can channel their thoughts to dead people. Once they're gone they're gone.
Why is Sean having him on?

Yes he's a fake. He uses a well worn method in his readings. He preys on grief. Not a fan.

[muhadeeb99]

Sorry, but, well, um, sorry. :redface:

Can't help myself sometimes. :)

Of course people look for an outside artificial means to fill a need, to "give" them closure or an imagined continued "link" to those who have passed.

They don't know how to do this on their own, come to terms as it were, so if someone walks in the room claiming they can of course the susceptible will jump on it.

Some of this is driven by guilt or denial but it is easily exploited by fakes.

Aye, tis guilt and denial that are the main reasons. Uninformed people are more inclined to make that leap. Your right, exploitation is a tool used to entice the uninformed. Knowing better is a struggle for some but not most. As an example, Ouji boards were entertaining for a while, for me earlier on. It was fun then but got bored. :whistle:

I never did believe in ghosts anyway.

[Socrates]

If a performer like David Copperfield asserted that he was no mere illusionist but actually had the power to perform miracles, then he would be the same sort of fraud that John Edward is.

Booking this guy is not a great move on Hannity's part. Maybe he thought they were booking John Edwards.:lol:

[muhadeeb99]

Why is Sean having him on?

Yes he's a fake. He uses a well worn method in his readings. He preys on grief. Not a fan.

I suppose it's for entertaiment. It would be for a diversion from politics. People like being drive by observers once in a while.

[Buffalo]

If a performer like David Copperfield asserted that he was no mere illusionist but actually had the power to perform miracles, then he would be the same sort of fraud that John Edward is.

Booking this guy is not a great move on Hannity's part. Maybe he thought they were booking John Edwards.:lol:
He, the "psychic", was on Fox and Friends before. I would prefer Sean not give him any credibility. Hopefully he won't. If it's light hearted fair, whatever.

[Buffalo]

I suppose it's for entertaiment. It would be for a diversion from politics. People like being drive by observers once in a while.
As long as it's not treated as real, it's fine with me. I just don't like these scammers. They prey on grief and pain. Not my cup of tea.

[muhadeeb99]

If a performer like David Copperfield asserted that he was no mere illusionist but actually had the power to perform miracles, then he would be the same sort of fraud that John Edward is.

Booking this guy is not a great move on Hannity's part. Maybe he thought they were booking John Edwards.:lol:
Both almost look alike. :clap:

John Edward is just trying to make a buck. Or, perhaps he might revive a previous show or trying to sell a book.

[curtis123]

If a performer like David Copperfield asserted that he was no mere illusionist but actually had the power to perform miracles, then he would be the same sort of fraud that John Edward is.

Booking this guy is not a great move on Hannity's part. Maybe he thought they were booking John Edwards.:lol:

Hey...he could get in touch with Johns long dead political career.

[muhadeeb99]

Hey...he could get in touch with Johns long dead political career.
Or he could channel Obama's grannie or mother. What secrets could be revealed.

[Socrates]

He, the "psychic", was on Fox and Friends before. I would prefer Sean not give him any credibility. Hopefully he won't. If it's light hearted fair, whatever.

The best thing Sean could do is to approach it from the perspective that Edward is full of ****.

Anything else is a bad idea and a step down for his program.

[Buffalo]

The best thing Sean could do is to approach it from the perspective that Edward is full of ****.

Anything else is a bad idea and a step down for his program.
Honestly, I haven't seen Sean's program since Colmes left. I get the impression it has added some fluff. That's ok, but this is different. I agree with you.

[BillBrown]

Sean hannity will have a famous psychic on tonite. Is he a fake? If he is not, how does he do it? Does he really crossover and communicate with the dead?
Personally, I don't believe he can. There is no scientific proof that any one can channel their thoughts to dead people. Once they're gone they're gone.

If he claims to talk to the dead, he's a fake.

Hillary Clinton is the only person who can do that. She talked to Eleanor Roosevelt several times.
Sean should have her on.

If he can get her to channel Vince Foster, it would be a heck of a show.

[Mithrastan]

South Park dealt with him a few years back.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

If he claims to talk to the dead, he's a fake.

Hillary Clinton is the only person who can do that. She talked to Eleanor Roosevelt several times.
Sean should have her on.

If he can get her to channel Vince Foster, it would be a heck of a show.

:)):)) Good one....made me laugh..which is impressive for my mornings. ;)

psssst: BTW: The B-2 is working! Your a real gem for passing that along Bill...thank You soooo much! :hug:

~Mysty

[BillBrown]

:)):)) Good one....made me laugh..which is impressive for my mornings. ;)

psssst: BTW: The B-2 is working! Your a real gem for passing that along Bill...thank You soooo much! :hug:

~Mysty

I'm glad it is, Mysty:)
I was wondering about that.

[Mimiheart]

A fake psychic?? NEVER!

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

Sean hannity will have a famous psychic on tonite. Is he a fake? If he is not, how does he do it? Does he really crossover and communicate with the dead?
Personally, I don't believe he can. There is no scientific proof that any one can channel their thoughts to dead people. Once they're gone they're gone.

What John Edwards does is called "cold reading." It is a parlor trick that isn't even that difficult when you learn how to do it. He is a fraud.

[george kaplan]

The best thing Sean could do is to approach it from the perspective that Edward is full of ****.

Anything else is a bad idea and a step down for his program.

I agree. Giving legitimacy to this fake who takes advantage of people suffering from grief over the death of a lost one is not a very good move. I hope he tears him apart rather than lauds him.

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

I do wonder if there is some kind of "residue" left behind by dead folks. I've watched enough people die as a medic to know that they are, boom, gone, a piece of meat when they die. But I've read that at the quantum level, two particles that touch retain an "echo" of the contact. So who knows.

Edward is definitely a fraud though.

[george kaplan]

I do wonder if there is some kind of "residue" left behind by dead folks. I've watched enough people die as a medic to know that they are, boom, gone, a piece of meat when they die. But I've read that at the quantum level, two particles that touch retain an "echo" of the contact. So who knows.

Edward is definitely a fraud though.

Interesting post -- thought provoking.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Oh..this is gonna hurt....please..be gentle. :shifty:

John Edwards has a 'gift'. Now before you go 'ahhh Mysty..what are ya talking about"..here me out. I was very skeptical about this Edwards guy when he first hit the viewing audiences in the early 90s. (At least I think it was the early 90?..Could be the mid 90's..bit fuzzy on when he actually hit our American t.v.'s) I watched him closely..trying to figure out how he was managing to pull information out of what looked like thin air on people he had never met.

Yeah...some of his information is fairly general...which is where I believe he uses filler. I began to take a closer look after a skeptic was given a reading...to which I don't remember this skeptic's name...somewhat famous gentlemen on the topic of super natural phenomena and debunks it...and listened as the skeptic..although not whole heartily convinced by Edwards..stated he could not 'trip' up Edwards, and was 'impressed' by whatever method he was using, psychic or not..to come to his information. That got me listening closer and watching closer.

Then the t.v. series 'Medium" came out a few years ago. Hubby and I watched a bio on the actual gal..and something inside my head just clicked that there are those who do have a different set of gifts then those we normally accept. Like those who can sing or play a instrument, or dance. Same applys to this type of gift, just in a different way.

Would I pay someone hundreds or thousands of dollar's to talk to a dead relative? No..no I wouldn't. But then again, I know to say what I need to before that time comes...talking to a grave stone is always empty. :whistle: There are those who do need it...and who am I too judge that want...or to judge a man like Edwards who may truly have a gift and putting minds and hearts at ease?

Ask any Mom if she ever had an 'odd' experiance within this 'gift'. I promise you every time you'll hear a story about a dream of her child falling, or could hear her childs call for help even though that child was miles away...it goes on and on. How do we wrap our heads around that and call that Mother's intuition..but look at Edwards as a fraud much less giving him any credence at all?

Be gentle.....:pray:

~Mysty

[ThrowCop]

He is a ****ing scumbag who preys on people's genuine hurt.

He deserves a smack to the mouth, not a national forum.

[BillBrown]

Dr. Raymond Moody has written a couple of books on the subject of talking to the dead, that are interesting.
He isn't a whacko, but he says it is possible, for most of us to do it.

He has a room set up to induce the proper mood. He invites people to use it. He doesn't charge for it.

He claims that 75% of the people who try it, are able to communicate with loved ones. He doesn't think it's hallucination, because the dead people provide information that was previously unknown.

Oprah sent a crew to his place when his first book came out.

Two members of the crew tried it and it worked.

Nope, I haven't tried it. You have to have a large mirror on the wall to stare into..etc.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Dr. Raymond Moody has written a couple of books on the subject of talking to the dead, that are interesting.
He isn't a whacko, but he says it is possible, for most of us to do it.

He has a room set up to induce the proper mood. He invites people to use it. He doesn't charge for it.

He claims that 75% of the people who try it, are able to communicate with loved ones. He doesn't think it's hallucination, because the dead people provide information that was previously unknown.

Oprah sent a crew to his place when his first book came out.

Two members of the crew tried it and it worked.

Nope, I haven't tried it. You have to have a large mirror on the wall to stare into..etc.

Hmmmm...that's interesting. Have never heard of him..but then again, I don't go looking for this type of information.

Using my poor analogy of those who dance well, or play an instrument divinely..doesn't mean there are those of us in the natural populace who can dance or can play a koozoo. There is always someone better out there. Whether or not one has a gift within those area's is what separates a Prima Ballerina verses a 5 year old in a too-too. Both can dance...one is just gifted and trained in dance; the other just starting out to maybe or maybe not become a Prima herslef?

Maybe this is one of those examples, as in 75% of people can do it, just in an extraordinary area? Which would place Edwards into the category of above average and having a true gift/talent. Interesting thought. :think:

I know when one of my girls is calling on the phone. Same ring as any other caller...but somehow I know when it's one of my babies calling home. Odd? Mother's intuition? Perhaps. But it opens the possibility that what Edwards does has or could have credence. Mind candy to be sure...

~Mysty

[BillBrown]

Hmmmm...that's interesting. Have never heard of him..but then again, I don't go looking for this type of information.

Using my poor analogy of those who dance well, or play an instrument divinely..doesn't mean there are those of us in the natural populace who can dance or can play a koozoo. There is always someone better out there. Whether or not one has a gift within those area's is what separates a Prima Ballerina verses a 5 year old in a too-too. Both can dance...one is just gifted and trained in dance; the other just starting out to maybe or maybe not become a Prima herslef?

Maybe this is one of those examples, as in 75% of people can do it, just in an extraordinary area? Which would place Edwards into the category of above average and having a true gift/talent. Interesting thought. :think:

I know when one of my girls is calling on the phone. Same ring as any other caller...but somehow I know when it's one of my babies calling home. Odd? Mother's intuition? Perhaps. But it opens the possibility that what Edwards does has or could have credence. Mind candy to be sure...

~Mysty

Moody says the practice was common in the ancient world.
Alexander supposedly communicated with his dead father and received advice.
That's what gave Moody the idea. He read Alexander's method, and tried to reproduce it.
I can't vouch that it's true, but his books are interesting.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Moody says the practice was common in the ancient world.
Alexander supposedly communicated with his dead father and received advice.
That's what gave Moody the idea. He read Alexander's method, and tried to reproduce it.
I can't vouch that it's true, but his books are interesting.

I just watched something on ancient 'oracles'. How accurate (albeit open to interpretation) their predictions where. some used the method your describing...staring into a mirror or reflection device such as still water or a glazed ball. I imagine it's the same premise that his 'Moody" person is describing.

Fascinating stuff to be sure.
I don't ever want to get to an age in this life where no more surprises are held for me. Maybe that's what captures the American imagination about Edwards?...the constant 'unknown' in this day in age of constant 'knowing' and sharing of information. Our technology is such that we've become arrogant to faith based or belief based ideologies. Heck, even religion takes a beating at the hands of technology. :confused:

~Mysty

[johnTD]

I'm sensing an R in the name, or maybe an N, and they have Knee Problems or Back Problems or some sort of ailment. They are sorry for an event that happened and want you to know that its ok, they are in a better place. Does water something to do with water mean anything to you? Or fire, or camping or maybe some sort of trip. I'm sensing disney world, or possibly 6 flags. I'm sensing that trip meant alot to you. Its ok, they are in a better place, a place of peace and calm and happiness

[Buffalo]

I'm sensing an R in the name, or maybe an N, and they have Knee Problems or Back Problems or some sort of ailment. They are sorry for an event that happened and want you to know that its ok, they are in a better place. Does water something to do with water mean anything to you? Or fire, or camping or maybe some sort of trip. I'm sensing disney world, or possibly 6 flags. I'm sensing that trip meant alot to you. Its ok, they are in a better place, a place of peace and calm and happiness
:))
Biggest ********* in the universe!

[MrShotShot]

My wife loves him. In fact, she's got tickets to see one of his live shows in the Fall. The guy makes beaucoup cash.

Of course he's a fraud. Anyone can spend a half hour on the internet and find out how he does it.

[Socrates]

Oh..this is gonna hurt....please..be gentle. :shifty:

John Edwards has a 'gift'. Now before you go 'ahhh Mysty..what are ya talking about"..here me out. I was very skeptical about this Edwards guy when he first hit the viewing audiences in the early 90s. (At least I think it was the early 90?..Could be the mid 90's..bit fuzzy on when he actually hit our American t.v.'s) I watched him closely..trying to figure out how he was managing to pull information out of what looked like thin air on people he had never met.

Yeah...some of his information is fairly general...which is where I believe he uses filler. I began to take a closer look after a skeptic was given a reading...to which I don't remember this skeptic's name...somewhat famous gentlemen on the topic of super natural phenomena and debunks it...and listened as the skeptic..although not whole heartily convinced by Edwards..stated he could not 'trip' up Edwards, and was 'impressed' by whatever method he was using, psychic or not..to come to his information. That got me listening closer and watching closer.

Then the t.v. series 'Medium" came out a few years ago. Hubby and I watched a bio on the actual gal..and something inside my head just clicked that there are those who do have a different set of gifts then those we normally accept. Like those who can sing or play a instrument, or dance. Same applys to this type of gift, just in a different way.

Would I pay someone hundreds or thousands of dollar's to talk to a dead relative? No..no I wouldn't. But then again, I know to say what I need to before that time comes...talking to a grave stone is always empty. :whistle: There are those who do need it...and who am I too judge that want...or to judge a man like Edwards who may truly have a gift and putting minds and hearts at ease?

Ask any Mom if she ever had an 'odd' experiance within this 'gift'. I promise you every time you'll hear a story about a dream of her child falling, or could hear her childs call for help even though that child was miles away...it goes on and on. How do we wrap our heads around that and call that Mother's intuition..but look at Edwards as a fraud much less giving him any credence at all?

Be gentle.....:pray:

~Mysty
It's a well known technique that has been used by mentalist acts and fortune tellers for a looooong time. It's called "cold reading."

http://www.skepdic.com/coldread.html

I'm sure it takes a certain amount of talent and skill to pull it off convincingly, but it's a trick nonetheless.

That said, the existence of phony psychics does not logically disprove supernatural or psychic phenomena in general any more than Bernie Madoff disproves the existence of legitimate investment strategies.

[Poisonshady313]

Is there anyone on earth whose religious/spiritual beliefs suggest that their deceased loved ones spend any of their afterlife conversing with this shmuck with a tv show?


What about people who believe in heaven and/or hell... how could they possibly be comforted knowing that their loved one made it to neither, 'cause they're stuck floating around on Earth, long enough to be present for an audience with John Edward?

[Socrates]

Is there anyone on earth whose religious/spiritual beliefs suggest that their deceased loved ones spend any of their afterlife conversing with this shmuck with a tv show?


What about people who believe in heaven and/or hell... how could they possibly be comforted knowing that their loved one made it to neither, 'cause they're stuck floating around on Earth, long enough to be present for an audience with John Edward?

I've always wondered this too.

There are obvious religious implications to the idea of conversing with the dead, yet these are conveniently left out of Edward's schtick. You'd think being able to talk to the dead would be pretty useful in settling a lot of theological and eschatological debates, but apparently the dead are more interested in reminiscing about meaningless crap.:razz:

[ThrowCop]

Seriously, he deserves to be punched flat in the mouth.

He cons people who are hurting.

I would like to be the one to punch him in the face. I am fairly certain I would do it if I ever saw him on the street.

I would then bend over his bleeding head & ask him...


"Why didn't ya see it coming you ****ing fraud?"

[Safiel]

The South Park episode "The Biggest ****** in the Universe" is pretty much a dead on accurate portrayal of John Edward.

[Socrates]

I would then bend over his bleeding head & ask him...


"Why didn't ya see it coming you ****ing fraud?"

To be fair, I don't think he claims to be able to predict the future. It would make more sense to bend over his bleeding head and simply say "You ****ing fraud."

:razz:

[Samm]

"Fake psychic" is redundant regardless of their name.

[CaptainPike]

I thought he won the Biggest ****** In The Universe award a while back?

[AeroEngineer]

Sean hannity will have a famous psychic on tonite. Is he a fake? If he is not, how does he do it? Does he really crossover and communicate with the dead?
Personally, I don't believe he can. There is no scientific proof that any one can channel their thoughts to dead people. Once they're gone they're gone.

The fact that we even have to have a discussion as to whether or not a psychic is fake is disheartening.

People like Edwards are grade A *******s. Playing with people's emotions by making them believe they can really talk to deceased loved ones, making money on mourning? Pathetic.

[AeroEngineer]

South Park, Penn and Teller, James Randi, Darren Brown... all have completely decimated John Edwards, but people STILL give the guy money!

And speaking of Oprah, she needs to stop giving national platforms to people like Edwards, Jenny McCarthy, and Raymond Moody . All she does is legitimize frauds.

[captusa]

Sean hannity will have a famous psychic on tonite. Is he a fake? If he is not, how does he do it? Does he really crossover and communicate with the dead?
Personally, I don't believe he can. There is no scientific proof that any one can channel their thoughts to dead people. Once they're gone they're gone.

John Edwards is not even as accurate as the average performing mind reader.
I think the 1st Amendment protects frauds like Edwards.
Unless it is proven he misrepresent himself he has a free pass to prey on the gullible.
There was a T.V. "psychic" who was enjoined from doing business because she misrepresented her background.

[captusa]

Both almost look alike. :clap:

John Edward is just trying to make a buck. Or, perhaps he might revive a previous show or trying to sell a book.

Willie Sutton was only trying to make a buck. (actually a lot of bucks)
The difference is Willie Sutton was more honest.
He said he was a thief.

[Thor]

Oh..this is gonna hurt....please..be gentle. :shifty:

John Edwards has a 'gift'. Now before you go 'ahhh Mysty..what are ya talking about"..here me out. I was very skeptical about this Edwards guy when he first hit the viewing audiences in the early 90s. (At least I think it was the early 90?..Could be the mid 90's..bit fuzzy on when he actually hit our American t.v.'s) I watched him closely..trying to figure out how he was managing to pull information out of what looked like thin air on people he had never met.

Yeah...some of his information is fairly general...which is where I believe he uses filler. I began to take a closer look after a skeptic was given a reading...to which I don't remember this skeptic's name...somewhat famous gentlemen on the topic of super natural phenomena and debunks it...and listened as the skeptic..although not whole heartily convinced by Edwards..stated he could not 'trip' up Edwards, and was 'impressed' by whatever method he was using, psychic or not..to come to his information. That got me listening closer and watching closer.

Then the t.v. series 'Medium" came out a few years ago. Hubby and I watched a bio on the actual gal..and something inside my head just clicked that there are those who do have a different set of gifts then those we normally accept. Like those who can sing or play a instrument, or dance. Same applys to this type of gift, just in a different way.

Would I pay someone hundreds or thousands of dollar's to talk to a dead relative? No..no I wouldn't. But then again, I know to say what I need to before that time comes...talking to a grave stone is always empty. :whistle: There are those who do need it...and who am I too judge that want...or to judge a man like Edwards who may truly have a gift and putting minds and hearts at ease?

Ask any Mom if she ever had an 'odd' experiance within this 'gift'. I promise you every time you'll hear a story about a dream of her child falling, or could hear her childs call for help even though that child was miles away...it goes on and on. How do we wrap our heads around that and call that Mother's intuition..but look at Edwards as a fraud much less giving him any credence at all?

Be gentle.....:pray:

~Mysty

Oh, Mysty...

I can guarantee you that John Edward is NOT able to communicate with dead people. (Neither is anyone else, for that matter). As a couple of others have already pointed out, Edward uses a technique known as "cold reading". He simply throws out a lot of guesses and some of them will invariably hit. People then tend to remember the "hits" and forget about the misses. Not that the hits are terribly impressive anyway. In fact, if you pay close attention to his act, you will notice that he gleans much of his information by having the subject provide HIM with details. For example, he might say something like, "I'm sensing an 'M' or an 'R' "(he always uses common letters that have much higher probabilities of producing hits). The subject then may reply "I had an Aunt Rose!". Edward will then run with that and reply, "Yes! She says her name is Rose!"

These people are all scam artists. The James Randi Educational Foundation has a standing offer of one million dollars for anyone who can demonstrate any kind of supernatural ability in a controlled environment. Not surprisingly, this offer has never been claimed. In fact, famous "psychics" like Edward and Sylvia Browne refuse to take Randi's challenge. Gee.... why do you think that may be?

You can find the details for this at www.randi.org.

[Buffalo]

I just watched the segment. Edward is a fraud and a scumbag. His overall demeanor and smugness concerning other fakes is putrid. I wish Sean had not given him a platform.

[PuckHappy]

Several years ago a co worker lost her husband and three sons in a house fire. She went to this guy to try and get some closure. They put it on his TV show. She really wanted to get close to her family, she really missed them. But the things that he said to her was everything that I already knew from reading all of the local newspapers. I felt so bad for her.

[angelicmadrigal]

You know I really need to start my career as a paranormal investigator/medium/fortune teller/psychic. Evidently it's more lucrative than I thought.

[captusa]

I just watched the segment. Edward is a fraud and a scumbag. His overall demeanor and smugness concerning other fakes is putrid. I wish Sean had not given him a platform.
Agreed!!!
He was a guest and Sean was respectful and reasonably skeptical.
Edwards deftly avoided defending himself and Sean did not say he believed Edwards.

http://www.therightscoop.com/video-psychic-medium-john-edward-on-hannity/

[ThrowCop]

Have I mentioned today that I would like to punch the fraud in the teeth? :lol:

He is scum of the highest order - preying on the weak & damaged. He deserves scorn & ridicule, not a national audience.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

Oh, Mysty...

You said it.....owwww...darn it. lol :))

I can guarantee you that John Edward is NOT able to communicate with dead people. (Neither is anyone else, for that matter). As a couple of others have already pointed out, Edward uses a technique known as "cold reading". He simply throws out a lot of guesses and some of them will invariably hit. People then tend to remember the "hits" and forget about the misses. Not that the hits are terribly impressive anyway. In fact, if you pay close attention to his act, you will notice that he gleans much of his information by having the subject provide HIM with details. For example, he might say something like, "I'm sensing an 'M' or an 'R' "(he always uses common letters that have much higher probabilities of producing hits). The subject then may reply "I had an Aunt Rose!". Edward will then run with that and reply, "Yes! She says her name is Rose!"

These people are all scam artists. The James Randi Educational Foundation has a standing offer of one million dollars for anyone who can demonstrate any kind of supernatural ability in a controlled environment. Not surprisingly, this offer has never been claimed. In fact, famous "psychics" like Edward and Sylvia Browne refuse to take Randi's challenge. Gee.... why do you think that may be?

You can find the details for this at www.randi.org.

Reading several of the other fine Hannity posters reply's here, who have stated more or less the same thought content you posted, in the way in which many of these types of 'readers' work; I understand that..I do. Scam artist abound in the this world...and those who prey on the grief stricken are the lowest form of life.

However, there is something different about John Edwards..I can't put my finger on it...but it's something separate then a Sylvia Brown or other types of so called self proclaimed psychics. I don't watch Edwards often enough to 'know' what he is. Whatever he is..he's darn good at it!

Take a look at the 'medium' gal. She works on crime cases..and through that is privy to lots of information on any given case...but her 'hits' are more concrete..solid...defined...which leads me to believe that there are those who do have a gift. Whether or not that includes Edwards or not...who is to say?

~Mysty

[PredFan]

Sean hannity will have a famous psychic on tonite. Is he a fake? If he is not, how does he do it? Does he really crossover and communicate with the dead?
Personally, I don't believe he can. There is no scientific proof that any one can channel their thoughts to dead people. Once they're gone they're gone.

Here's a good litmus test:

1. There's no such thing as psychic powers.

2. If someone says they have psychic powers, see #1.

[PredFan]

I do wonder if there is some kind of "residue" left behind by dead folks. I've watched enough people die as a medic to know that they are, boom, gone, a piece of meat when they die. But I've read that at the quantum level, two particles that touch retain an "echo" of the contact. So who knows.

Edward is definitely a fraud though.

The more I learn of quantum physics the more fascinating it becomes. I am familiar with that "residue" theory and I also am interested in the alternate universes theory derived from observations of quatum particle behavior.

And you are correct, he's a fraud.

[StoneScratcher]

The more I learn of quantum physics the more fascinating it becomes. I am familiar with that "residue" theory and I also am interested in the alternate universes theory derived from observations of quatum particle behavior.

And you are correct, he's a fraud.

There was a documentary that figured out the big bang in theory, and to do so, they had taken the multiverse to require 11 multiverses to do so. The thing that fascinates me the most, and I think it was in this documentary, was the fact that a particle can be looked at and then it vanishes and then reappears somewhere else--as if it went through a gate, of sorts. Pretty fascinating things when you look at the smallest we're able to view. As above, as below, as they say.

[BrittleBullet]

If people are silly enough to give that ******* money, so be it.
I have no sympathy.

[boogiealbert]

After watching the John Edwards interview I became curious as to what the site www.infinitequest.com (http://www.infinitequest.com) was all about. They have a few short videos, kind of like a round table discussion with the other mediums and physics. One of interest was "The fly on the wall". There are several of these but one caught my attention because it was pro-Obama. They were saying how the stars and such favored Obama and how he was good for humanity. Needless to say I won't go back to that sight.

[Thor]

However, there is something different about John Edwards..I can't put my finger on it...but it's something separate then a Sylvia Brown or other types of so called self proclaimed psychics. I don't watch Edwards often enough to 'know' what he is. Whatever he is..he's darn good at it!


Yes, he's a very good cold reader.

[Gray]

Sean hannity will have a famous psychic on tonite. Is he a fake? If he is not, how does he do it? Does he really crossover and communicate with the dead?
Personally, I don't believe he can. There is no scientific proof that any one can channel their thoughts to dead people. Once they're gone they're gone.

Next Week: The woman who had an aliens baby on board a space ship.

[ThrowCop]

If people are silly enough to give that ******* money, so be it.
I have no sympathy.I would normally be right there with you but preying on those in mourning is not fair at all.

Of course they should have a sane person looking out for them to keep charlatans like this gargantuan ****** from taking advantage of their pain.

[Gray]

he is a ****ing scumbag who preys on people's genuine hurt.

He deserves a smack to the mouth, not a national forum.

+1

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

The more I learn of quantum physics the more fascinating it becomes. I am familiar with that "residue" theory and I also am interested in the alternate universes theory derived from observations of quatum particle behavior.

And you are correct, he's a fraud.

It is quite fascinating, but I am not very mathematically inclined, so I have to read the "Quantum Physics for Dummies" books.

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

Yes, he's a very good cold reader.

Cold reading is not that difficult.

[Gray]

It is quite fascinating, but I am not very mathematically inclined, so I have to read the "Quantum Physics for Dummies" books.


The Hawking Books were pretty good.

[Thor]

Cold reading is not that difficult.

I agree. But you have to be a bit of a performer to really sell it to an audience.

[uncledoom]

The words "psychic" and "fake" should be self explanatory

[captusa]

I agree. But you have to be a bit of a performer to really sell it to an audience.

As I said, Edwards does not have the skill of a
mediocre performer in a mind act.
Kreskin admitted to being a performer and did it well.
It takes less talent to be a fraud than a legitimate entertainer.
Uri Geller failed as a professional magician but made a fortune as a fraud.
(I saw the Carson show where Randi had secretly told Carson how to keep Geller from manipulating the props.
His powers were noticably missing that night)

[AeroEngineer]

As I said, Edwards does not have the skill of a
mediocre performer in a mind act.
Kreskin admitted to being a performer and did it well.
It takes less talent to be a fraud than a legitimate entertainer.
Uri Geller failed as a professional magician but made a fortune as a fraud.
(I saw the Carson show where Randi had secretly told Carson how to keep Geller from manipulating the props.
His powers were noticably missing that night)

James Randi is awesome. His debunking of Peter Popoff would have been hilarious had it not been so sad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7BQKu0YP8Y

This clip edited out some of the mean racist stuff, too. :rolleyes:

[Thor]

As I said, Edwards does not have the skill of a
mediocre performer in a mind act.
Kreskin admitted to being a performer and did it well.
It takes less talent to be a fraud than a legitimate entertainer.
Uri Geller failed as a professional magician but made a fortune as a fraud.
(I saw the Carson show where Randi had secretly told Carson how to keep Geller from manipulating the props.
His powers were noticably missing that night)

Amazing how they always seem to have an excuse when their "powers" don't work. Yeah, it's interference caused by the lighting....:rolleyes:

It really frosts me when these frauds are treated like celebrities. I saw Sylvia Browne on "The Montel Williams Show" and when she was introduced the audience gave her a standing ovation! Just made me sick.

[Calibabe]

Oh..this is gonna hurt....please..be gentle. :shifty:

John Edwards has a 'gift'. Now before you go 'ahhh Mysty..what are ya talking about"..here me out. I was very skeptical about this Edwards guy when he first hit the viewing audiences in the early 90s. (At least I think it was the early 90?..Could be the mid 90's..bit fuzzy on when he actually hit our American t.v.'s) I watched him closely..trying to figure out how he was managing to pull information out of what looked like thin air on people he had never met.

Yeah...some of his information is fairly general...which is where I believe he uses filler. I began to take a closer look after a skeptic was given a reading...to which I don't remember this skeptic's name...somewhat famous gentlemen on the topic of super natural phenomena and debunks it...and listened as the skeptic..although not whole heartily convinced by Edwards..stated he could not 'trip' up Edwards, and was 'impressed' by whatever method he was using, psychic or not..to come to his information. That got me listening closer and watching closer.

Then the t.v. series 'Medium" came out a few years ago. Hubby and I watched a bio on the actual gal..and something inside my head just clicked that there are those who do have a different set of gifts then those we normally accept. Like those who can sing or play a instrument, or dance. Same applys to this type of gift, just in a different way.

Would I pay someone hundreds or thousands of dollar's to talk to a dead relative? No..no I wouldn't. But then again, I know to say what I need to before that time comes...talking to a grave stone is always empty. :whistle: There are those who do need it...and who am I too judge that want...or to judge a man like Edwards who may truly have a gift and putting minds and hearts at ease?

Ask any Mom if she ever had an 'odd' experiance within this 'gift'. I promise you every time you'll hear a story about a dream of her child falling, or could hear her childs call for help even though that child was miles away...it goes on and on. How do we wrap our heads around that and call that Mother's intuition..but look at Edwards as a fraud much less giving him any credence at all?

Be gentle.....:pray:

~Mysty

Okay. First off I want to preface this with that I don't think John Edward is legit.

Now on the other side of the coin. I lost my Mom at the end of '03, my Dad 8 mos after her and my Grandma in '06. I have from time to time had each of them come to me. With my Mom it has been half a dozen times of so. Twice with my Dad after he passed. The "dreams" if you can call them that are as vivid as I am typing here. Right down to the last detail. My Grandma came to me about a month after she passed. Funny thing with her is that she has this "aura" or "glow" to her when she comes to me. The last time was about a month ago when I was going through some rather difficult health related issues. She told me that I would be alright and that she would always be beside me. My parents have said the same thing to me. Even my son has had visits from them. I also have had different times where if I am in the kitchen, I can feel my Mom there with me. She had this way of putting her hands on my hips so we would not bump into each other and darn if that doesn't happen every now and then. It startles me and makes me jump a little and look around. The one time she came to me she said my husband told her I needed her. I asked him if he remembered talking to her in his dreams or anything and he looked at me like I was crazy. He doesn't believe in this stuff. My Grandma always knew when someone in the family passed as she would see a shadow of a tall dark man cross the room in the corner of her eye. When she would see that she immediately would pull out the rosary beads and pray.

Trust me I am not a crazy. However I do get what I perceive to be "contacts" from my lost loved ones that meant the most to me. I always enter them into my prayer list on Sundays at Mass so they are always remembered.

[captusa]

Amazing how they always seem to have an excuse when their "powers" don't work. Yeah, it's interference caused by the lighting....:rolleyes:

It really frosts me when these frauds are treated like celebrities. I saw Sylvia Browne on "The Montel Williams Show" and when she was introduced the audience gave her a standing ovation! Just made me sick.

I used to respect Montel Williams.

[captusa]

Okay. First off I want to preface this with that I don't think John Edward is legit.

Now on the other side of the coin. I lost my Mom at the end of '03, my Dad 8 mos after her and my Grandma in '06. I have from time to time had each of them come to me. With my Mom it has been half a dozen times of so. Twice with my Dad after he passed. The "dreams" if you can call them that are as vivid as I am typing here. Right down to the last detail. My Grandma came to me about a month after she passed. Funny thing with her is that she has this "aura" or "glow" to her when she comes to me. The last time was about a month ago when I was going through some rather difficult health related issues. She told me that I would be alright and that she would always be beside me. My parents have said the same thing to me. Even my son has had visits from them. I also have had different times where if I am in the kitchen, I can feel my Mom there with me. She had this way of putting her hands on my hips so we would not bump into each other and darn if that doesn't happen every now and then. It startles me and makes me jump a little and look around. The one time she came to me she said my husband told her I needed her. I asked him if he remembered talking to her in his dreams or anything and he looked at me like I was crazy. He doesn't believe in this stuff. My Grandma always knew when someone in the family passed as she would see a shadow of a tall dark man cross the room in the corner of her eye. When she would see that she immediately would pull out the rosary beads and pray.

Trust me I am not a crazy. However I do get what I perceive to be "contacts" from my lost loved ones that meant the most to me. I always enter them into my prayer list on Sundays at Mass so they are always remembered.


One cannot disagree with your perceptions.
Harry Houdini (Eric Weiss) believed his mother had spoken to him from the "beyond" and searched for mediums that could contact her and exposed any phonies he encountered.
Every one he encountered was a phony.

[Rankandfile]

I would never have believed in any of this. I've watched John Edward, don't like him. BUT -- about five years ago I went with my best friend to a "medium", a Brian Hurst in Reseda, California. He opens up his home to about 30 or 40 people at once -- fee of $15 each -- and after he "prepares" the room, he starts "communicating" and pointing to the people that the dead people are trying to reach. My best friend's father and my mother had passed away within a month of each other, about six months prior to our visit to Mr. Hurst. I just went along for the ride, so to speak, because my friend was so anxious to communicate with her father. Much to my surprise, Mr. Hurst zeroed in on me. He said "I see your mother with a rose bush and a water fountain. I also see an Asian statue near her" (my mother's ashes are interred in a garden, under a rose bush, with a water fountain and a Buddha statue nearby). Then he said "Are you dating a sailor? I see you with a sailor in his sailor suit. His name is Jimmie (then he said something almost exactly like my father's last name.) (My father was in the Navy, his name was almost exactly as Mr. Hurst said, and I have a picture of my dad in his "sailor suit" in my wallet). During this time, I never let on, I just "go on". He then said "I see you surrounded by green. Do you live in a forest?" (In two months, I was moving to the redwood forest, surrounded by more green than anyone can imagine). Then he said "you have a piano, Someone moved your piano, someone named "Samuel".
That's when I did about fall off my chair -- someone named Sam had moved my piano that very morning when the opportunity arose for someone to move my piano into our new home. I accused my friend of telling him all of that beforehand, but she swore she did not, plus some of that stuff she didn't know. However, during all of this, he never really "gave me a message" from my parents like "tell her not to worry about us", or "tell her to go ahead with her plans". But, I was shocked, to say the least, about what he had come up with. I don't think it was general -- I think the place where my mom was buried was pretty specific and non-typical, and he also got my dad's name pretty much right on. The green -- probably a lucky guess -- everyone can find themselves "surrounded by green" in some form or another -- maybe got a new green bedspread or something. But, having my piano moved by someone named Samuel -- that's pretty darned specific.

[zerk]

Glenn Beck had him on his CNNHeadline show a couple years ago. Beck seem to be a believer.

[CrusaderFrank]

Long before he had a TV show and was only "Famous" on Long Island, a friend of mine went to see John Edwards.

John gave my friend all the details of the matter that brought him there: the murder of his uncle.

John told my friend:

where the uncle was murdered (right inside his front door),

how it was done (shot in the head),

who was behind it,

and to confirm that it was really the Spirit of the Uncle, he gave my friend the nickname he had for his wife (who had paid for the hit).

the Uncle's parting words to my friend were "Tell (wife nickname) Ha! HA! Let it go. It looks like it was terrible, but it's no longer your concern. Let it go."

Now you could say that pre-Internet, well what? That John looked up my friend and all his relatives to see if any were in the newspaper and gave him details that weren't in any newspaper?

[Thor]

Long before he had a TV show and was only "Famous" on Long Island, a friend of mine went to see John Edwards.

John gave my friend all the details of the matter that brought him there: the murder of his uncle.

John told my friend:

where the uncle was murdered (right inside his front door),

how it was done (shot in the head),

who was behind it,

and to confirm that it was really the Spirit of the Uncle, he gave my friend the nickname he had for his wife (who had paid for the hit).

the Uncle's parting words to my friend were "Tell (wife nickname) Ha! HA! Let it go. It looks like it was terrible, but it's no longer your concern. Let it go."

Now you could say that pre-Internet, well what? That John looked up my friend and all his relatives to see if any were in the newspaper and gave him details that weren't in any newspaper?

Sounds impressive....

But I've seen magicians pull off amazing illusions. I don't know how they make an elephant disappear, or how they can walk through a spinning sawblade... but I know it's a trick. And I'd wager my house that John Edward either somehow managed to get information prior to the "reading" or that he just got lucky. I'd also ask what he said that turned out NOT to be true. People invariably remember the three or four "hits" and forget about the 20 or 30 misses.

If you truly think John Edward has psychic powers, just ask yourself why he doesn't take James Randi's One Million Dollar Challenge...

[CrusaderFrank]

Sounds impressive....

But I've seen magicians pull off amazing illusions. I don't know how they make an elephant disappear, or how they can walk through a spinning sawblade... but I know it's a trick. And I'd wager my house that John Edward either somehow managed to get information prior to the "reading" or that he just got lucky. I'd also ask what he said that turned out NOT to be true. People invariably remember the three or four "hits" and forget about the 20 or 30 misses.

If you truly think John Edward has psychic powers, just ask yourself why he doesn't take James Randi's One Million Dollar Challenge...

Yeah, he just got lucky and gave my friend his Aunts nickname known to maybe 5 people on the whole planet.

[Thor]

Yeah, he just got lucky and gave my friend his Aunts nickname known to maybe 5 people on the whole planet.

Or, like I said, he somehow managed to gather information prior to the "reading".

I would also ask if Edward spouted this information out of the blue, or if your friend provided Edward with his aunt's nickname.

Let me put it this way, which of these scenarios best describes how Edward came to this nickname:

1) Out of the blue, Edward announces "Your uncle is telling me his wife's nickname is 'Honeypot'!"

2) Edward says, "Did your aunt have a nickname?"

Your friend says, "Yes!"

Edward says, "Yes, he's telling me she had an unusual nickname..."

Your friend responds, "That's true! He called her 'Honeypot'!"

Edward the says, "Yes! He's telling me that 'Honeypot' was her nickname!"

(In an exchange like this, Edward will take things that you have said and throw them back at you in a manner that makes you think he got the information from the dead person.)

Finally, I must ask which you think is more likely? That John Edward somehow pulled off a trick or that this guy can really talk to dead people?

[ThrowCop]

Edwards is still a ******.

And he still deserves a smack to the mouth & not a national audience.

And Frank...

he's a fraud - 100% fraud.

Your friend is not remembering the instance as it actually happened. He is choosing to remember it as he does.

[DRF]

I'm not so quick to say it's not possible to communicate with spirits. I'm willing to keep an open mind about it. Don't know if John Edwards is a fraud or not. No one has actually come up with hard proof that he is.... and no one has come up with hard proof that he isn't, if proof is what you need to believe something.

I don't think it's a stretch to believe that people are capable of much more than what is obvious. Many people have premonitions that we can't explain... doesn't mean they don't happen.

Do you think humans are so smart that they know everthing there is to know? I don't. Just because humans haven't figured it out, doesn't mean it can't be possible to me.

[griffcj]

He's a fraud.

http://www.re-quest.net/entertainment/movies-and-tv/tv/john-edward/

[DRF]

He's a fraud.

http://www.re-quest.net/entertainment/movies-and-tv/tv/john-edward/


And you believe this website is 100% accurate because.....? My guess is if you wanted to you could also find a website with a passionate slant the other way.

I don't know whether John Edwards is a fraud or not. I've seen VanPraagh and he appears to be a fraud to me. But proving one person is a fraud does not also prove that mediums don't exist.

[Thor]

I'm not so quick to say it's not possible to communicate with spirits. I'm willing to keep an open mind about it.

Are you also "willing to keep an open mind" about gremlins causing airplanes to crash? Or the existence of trolls and fairies?

Don't know if John Edwards is a fraud or not. No one has actually come up with hard proof that he is

Correct! There is no proof that Edward can talk to dead people.

and no one has come up with hard proof that he isn't

We don't need proof that Edward can't talk to dead people. What sort of "proof" would convince you anyway? The burden of proof lies with the one making a claim. I could tell you that I have a six foot tall invisible rabbit living in my house. Prove that I don't.

if proof is what you need to believe something.


Ummmm... yeah. Proof is pretty much what I need to believe something. And the more outlandish the claim is, the greater the proof I require. Are you saying you'll believe anything regardless of whether or not you have proof?

I don't think it's a stretch to believe that people are capable of much more than what is obvious.

Like talking to dead people?:rolleyes:

Many people have premonitions that we can't explain... doesn't mean they don't happen.


Strange how nobody ever has a "premonition" that gives them the winning powerball numbers.

[Thor]

I don't know whether John Edwards is a fraud or not. I've seen VanPraagh and he appears to be a fraud to me. But proving one person is a fraud does not also prove that mediums don't exist.

Oh, mediums definitely exist! It's just that they can't see the future or communicate with dead people.

[DRF]

Oh, mediums definitely exist! It's just that they can't see the future or communicate with dead people.

Ok, you can believe that, doesn't mean everyone else has to.

I don't know why it bothers non-believers so, when someone else doesn't share their disbelief. They get down right cranky and mean.

Kind of like the atheists who have to destroy Christmas by posting signs of their disbelief in December.

All I said is that I have an open mind on something that has yet to be proven or disproven.

Imagine those that thought the world was flat... they were so sure because they hadn't seen anything else... man had not proved otherwise...

[sgtmac_46]

Sean hannity will have a famous psychic on tonite. Is he a fake? If he is not, how does he do it? Does he really crossover and communicate with the dead?
Personally, I don't believe he can. There is no scientific proof that any one can channel their thoughts to dead people. Once they're gone they're gone.

No, he really talks to dead people........seriously......really.....just ask any of the dead people........they'll confirm it......through John Edward, of course.

[sgtmac_46]

Oh, mediums definitely exist! It's just that they can't see the future or communicate with dead people. Touche! They exist.....they just happen to be frauds and nutcases living off the gullibility and wishful thinking of a large number of human beings.........mediums are merely masters of the 'Hot Reading' and the 'Cold Reading'.

http://www.skepdic.com/coldread.html

[Thor]

Ok, you can believe that, doesn't mean everyone else has to.


Very true. You can believe that some people have mystical powers that allow them to communicate with the dead if you want. Just means that you're more likely to give money to frauds and charlatans.

I don't know why it bothers non-believers so, when someone else doesn't share their disbelief. They get down right cranky and mean.


What was "cranky and mean" about my post? I was shooting for witty and sarcastic.

All I said is that I have an open mind on something that has yet to be proven or disproven.


And I consider it rather foolish to have "an open mind" about unproven nonsense. Again, I can't disprove someone's claim that they can talk to dead people. I DON'T HAVE TO! It is the claimant who must provide evidence that their claim is true. Otherwise, it is perfectly reasonable to dismiss their claim as unfounded. In fact, I would say that it is unreasonable to believe this type of claim without strong supporting evidence. Why is this so difficult to understand?

Imagine those that thought the world was flat... they were so sure because they hadn't seen anything else... man had not proved otherwise...

And people believed the world was flat because that is what they observed. Eventually, evidence that the Earth is a sphere emerged. There is ZERO evidence to indicate that ANYONE can talk to dead people.

[captusa]

.......And people believed the world was flat because that is what they observed. Eventually, evidence that the Earth is a sphere emerged. There is ZERO evidence to indicate that ANYONE can talk to dead people.

I again point to Houdini who DID believe he received a message from his dead mother.
He searched for anyone who could communicate with the dead and proved everyone who claimed they could were phonies.
Unlike Randi he believed it possible but both of them exposed frauds.
(Of course does a more convincing "mind" act than Edwards without benefit of advice from the dead)

[penner01]

Dr. Raymond Moody has written a couple of books on the subject of talking to the dead, that are interesting.
He isn't a whacko, but he says it is possible, for most of us to do it.

He has a room set up to induce the proper mood. He invites people to use it. He doesn't charge for it.

He claims that 75% of the people who try it, are able to communicate with loved ones. He doesn't think it's hallucination, because the dead people provide information that was previously unknown.

Oprah sent a crew to his place when his first book came out.

Two members of the crew tried it and it worked.

Nope, I haven't tried it. You have to have a large mirror on the wall to stare into..etc.I had a friend for a time that did this for a living. No matter how close we became the line she would never quite cross was actually stating it was real.....always deflected that artfully. Those that do this know what it takes to hit on something that develops credibility and they know how to fish. It's an artistic skill and they can always ultimately come up with something that "nobody would know" and they were always general enough to not be wrong without having to be totally right.

That said I believe two things........there are those who are so totally in tune spiritually that they have some abilities we will never comprehend and I believe there are some so intuitive to energy in the air, that they do get a sense of things. I am a great believer in "energy".

And, I also believe in the power of the mind and part of that power can certainly be an unrealized subconscious "creation" of what the conscious mind dearly needs.

[penner01]

We don't need proof that Edward can't talk to dead people. What sort of "proof" would convince you anyway? The burden of proof lies with the one making a claim. I could tell you that I have a six foot tall invisible rabbit living in my house. Prove that I don't.Um, if Edwards makes the claim he can talk to dead people then he is the one making the claim. Although, have you ever actually heard him say...."Hey, I can talk to dead people? I bet not.


Strange how nobody ever has a "premonition" that gives them the winning powerball numbers.I do try to focus really hard.

[DRF]

And I consider it rather foolish to have "an open mind" about unproven nonsense. Again, I can't disprove someone's claim that they can talk to dead people. I DON'T HAVE TO! It is the claimant who must provide evidence that their claim is true. Otherwise, it is perfectly reasonable to dismiss their claim as unfounded. In fact, I would say that it is unreasonable to believe this type of claim without strong supporting evidence. Why is this so difficult to understand?

It's not that I don't understand, it's that I just don't agree with you. Why do you find that so hard to take? Maybe some day there will be hard proof one way or the other, but right now there just isn't. John Edward being a charlton or not does not prove or disprove that the ability may exist in some capacity or another in other people. You don't have to agree. That's fine, you don't have to.

[Thor]

Um, if Edwards makes the claim he can talk to dead people then he is the one making the claim.

Yes, and Edward would have to provide evidence to prove that his claim is true. Which he cannot.

Although, have you ever actually heard him say...."Hey, I can talk to dead people? I bet not.


I don't believe I've heard Edward utter the exact words you quote. But he leaves no doubt that he claims to be able to communicate with the dead. I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

[Thor]

Maybe some day there will be hard proof one way or the other,

There will NEVER be "proof" that no one can talk to dead people. Just as there will never be "proof" that one-eyed pink unicorns don't exist.

but right now there just isn't.

Right! And because there is NO proof that anyone can communicate with the dead, it is perfectly reasonable to dismiss the claims of people like John Edward.

John Edward being a charlton or not does not prove or disprove that the ability may exist in some capacity or another in other people.

True. But absolutely no one has ever been able to prove that they can truly communicate with the dead. Is it possible that someone has this remarkable ability? Absolutely. But I put the likelihood of this at something less than the chances of winning the powerball jackpot.

[Stuball]

You said it.....owwww...darn it. lol :))



Reading several of the other fine Hannity posters reply's here, who have stated more or less the same thought content you posted, in the way in which many of these types of 'readers' work; I understand that..I do. Scam artist abound in the this world...and those who prey on the grief stricken are the lowest form of life.

However, there is something different about John Edwards..I can't put my finger on it...but it's something separate then a Sylvia Brown or other types of so called self proclaimed psychics. I don't watch Edwards often enough to 'know' what he is. Whatever he is..he's darn good at it!

Take a look at the 'medium' gal. She works on crime cases..and through that is privy to lots of information on any given case...but her 'hits' are more concrete..solid...defined...which leads me to believe that there are those who do have a gift. Whether or not that includes Edwards or not...who is to say?

~Mysty
Mysty
Medium is a T V show It is no more real than any other work of fiction

and as for Edwards the ****er goes on HSC and tries to peddle his **** like blank diaries for ten times what you would pay in a store just because his name is on it
I agree with TC Edwards needs to be punched in the face
He uses what JoeyTribiani called" smell the fart " acting to make himself appear to be listening to dead people
If he is so good why did WE move his " show" to Sunday Mornings at 3:00 A.M.?

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

I'm not so quick to say it's not possible to communicate with spirits. I'm willing to keep an open mind about it. Don't know if John Edwards is a fraud or not. No one has actually come up with hard proof that he is.... and no one has come up with hard proof that he isn't, if proof is what you need to believe something.

I don't think it's a stretch to believe that people are capable of much more than what is obvious. Many people have premonitions that we can't explain... doesn't mean they don't happen.

Do you think humans are so smart that they know everthing there is to know? I don't. Just because humans haven't figured it out, doesn't mean it can't be possible to me.

John Edwards is a fraud.

We have a term for people that hear voices in their head: Schizophrenics.

[CrusaderFrank]

Edwards is still a ******.

And he still deserves a smack to the mouth & not a national audience.

And Frank...

he's a fraud - 100% fraud.

Your friend is not remembering the instance as it actually happened. He is choosing to remember it as he does.

Yeah, that must be it. I'll tell Patrick he misremembered

[Thor]

Yeah, that must be it. I'll tell Patrick he misremembered

That is usually the case. People remember the "hits" and forget the numerous misses.

If you had a transcript of your friend's encounter with John Edward I could easily demonstrate this.

[penner01]

Yes, and Edward would have to provide evidence to prove that his claim is true. Which he cannot.



I don't believe I've heard Edward utter the exact words you quote. But he leaves no doubt that he claims to be able to communicate with the dead. I don't understand the point you're trying to make.My point is that this is how these people work. They run up to the line but don't cross it and just let you believe it. I don't think I have ever heard one actually say..........."I can......whatever."

[penner01]

Mysty
Medium is a T V show It is no more real than any other work of fiction

and as for Edwards the ****er goes on HSC and tries to peddle his **** like blank diaries for ten times what you would pay in a store just because his name is on it
I agree with TC Edwards needs to be punched in the face
He uses what JoeyTribiani called" smell the fart " acting to make himself appear to be listening to dead people
If he is so good why did WE move his " show" to Sunday Mornings at 3:00 A.M.?
I tend to like the Mentalist more than Medium. At least he says right out that it's not what it looks like.

[StoneScratcher]

One cannot disagree with your perceptions.
Harry Houdini (Eric Weiss) believed his mother had spoken to him from the "beyond" and searched for mediums that could contact her and exposed any phonies he encountered.
Every one he encountered was a phony.

The "medium", once given money, isn't a medium any longer.

For example, you could be on the subway, there you are holding the strap, banging around with the others there on this busy morning. For a second you think of a relative who had passed, just for a flash, he/she passes through your mind. Let's make this relative a close uncle who died, whose boat you often journeyed on each summer.

After this memory of your uncle, this flash of thought of him, the woman next to you, holding the pole in front of you has her back to you. Suddenly, out of no where she turns her head to you and says:

"Too bad this wasn't a boat we are on."

[Vaard]

south park was right about john edwards........

[ThrowCop]

Yeah, that must be it. I'll tell Patrick he misrememberedPlease do because like Edwards will use this "misremembering" to take advantage of the grieving.


And I still want to smack John Edwards in the mouth...

[Thor]

The "medium", once given money, isn't a medium any longer.

For example, you could be on the subway, there you are holding the strap, banging around with the others there on this busy morning. For a second you think of a relative who had passed, just for a flash, he/she passes through your mind. Let's make this relative a close uncle who died, whose boat you often journeyed on each summer.

After this memory of your uncle, this flash of thought of him, the woman next to you, holding the pole in front of you has her back to you. Suddenly, out of no where she turns her head to you and says:

"Too bad this wasn't a boat we are on."

That would be a neat coincidence.