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spinach
June 11th, 2009, 4:49 am
link here (http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/107167/true-or-false-us-economic-stats-lie?mod=bb-budgeting)

it's a pretty decent article. I frankly think Mr. Williams is much closer to the truth than any "government" measuring.


Pollyanna Creep
If the theory has a chief architect, it is John Williams, a semi-retired grandfather of five living in Oakland, Calif. The son of a chainsaw importer, Williams sold the family business in the 1970s and began consulting for corporations, recalculating government economic data to arrive at what he says were more reliable measures, and with them, truer forecasts. Today Williams runs Shadow Government Statistics (ShadowStats.com (http://shadowstats.com/)) from his home. For $175 a year subscribers get economic data and analysis adjusted to back out the accumulated effects of what Williams has dubbed the Pollyanna Creep -- Pollyanna being the orphan protagonist of the 1913 children's book who learns to play the "glad game" to find cheery perspectives on life's sorrows. In other words, he provides figures he feels are properly miserable, to offset government ones he says are too prettied-up.
If Williams is right, unemployment is over 20%, gross domestic product is shrinking by 8% and consumer prices are jumping by nearly 7%. His forecasts border on apocalyptic. The government is creating so much new money, he says, that the all but inevitable result is hyperinflation, where "your highest denomination, the $100 bill, becomes worth more as toilet paper than money." Buy physical gold, he advises.

animalnut
June 11th, 2009, 5:13 am
Thanks for the link. I especially agree with his statement "American economic measures are misstated - rigged, really." Couldn't agree more. This administration is rigged and corrupt, arrogant and intrusive.

Prices are going up, and as Obama stated "you ain't seen nothing yet."
I get reading glasses at the dollar store. Six months ago they were $3/pr. I bought two pairs yesterday and paid over $14. Just one example. People are going to be gobsmacked when they see the backdoor taxes implemented so Obama can tell his flock "I haven't raised taxes, as a matter of fact, 95% of you have received a tax cut." He is a wolf in a "pretty" package.

WildRose
June 11th, 2009, 5:15 am
Hmm how long before we revive the "misery index"?

spinach
June 11th, 2009, 5:20 am
It goes deeper than that.

Ever since the spending started getting out of hand [1994 and later], both political parties have done their best to hide the truth about how bad things are getting.

At this point, it's come down to bald faced lies--
Mainly in the financial sector.

I firmly believe that unemployment is FAR higher than the 9.4% figure the government has released. I also believe that we are in for one very nasty economic earthquake that can happen at any moment. it's hard to pin it down because the governments actions so far sort of have a camouflage effect, that fights the current trends in the short term.

However, the government actions are indeed short term, and the actual long term effect is indeed hyperinflation and destruction of whatever business survives the coming crash.

We have a bunch of charlatans in DC, and they are letting the banks get away with highway robbery, in a big way. But the joke is on them. Their delusions are not reality- and the economic mess will correct itself by FORCE, no matter how much funny money they throw around.

It's all going to come out soon.
and no amount of spin or lies is going to cover anything anymore.

spinach
June 11th, 2009, 5:23 am
Hmm how long before we revive the "misery index"?


it's moot.
My main focus is wondering if we become a totalitarian state or not, when this mess comes crashing down.

USA survival is more important to me than some political football.
our chances look quite grim.

And the sad part is we are better off than most industrial countries.
The ones to watch are Japan and the UK. I think they go under a bit before we do. However, it is possible that some unforeseen event [such as a terror attack] could sink us before them, and quite suddenly at that.

We are only "afloat" right now in the sense that the government has spent trillions on an economic "potemkin village".