The Obamas $24,000 date and with only a 4.5 Trillion Debt? ?

[Maxstake]

Change? ? ? The Marxist Imam Obama and his wife after bankrupting the country aided by the Marxist Controlled Congress the Obama's celebrate with a $24,000 date.

Doesn't this make every one feel good to know that their 'p'resident really cares by Celebrating the plight of all the Americans he put out of work and further huge debt for our Children and grandchildren to payoff. Or perhaps this is to celebrate his successful "Talk Nice, Nice" policy with nations like Iran, Korea and encouraging them by stopping any further Missile Defense for us or our allies, and then there is the selling of America to China and .........

I could go on and on but it really gives me a feeling (PIA) to see the 'p'resident & his controller, I'm sorry, his wife, celebrating and Toasting" the "Stupidity of Americans" that gave them this Night Out and it only cost $24,000 for a one night stand, imagine a weekend! ! !


Source:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1189893/How-Obamas-romantic-120-trip-Broadway-racked-45-000-bill.html



news

How Obamas' romantic £120 trip to Broadway racked up a £45,000 bill
By David Gardner
Last updated at 9:07 AM on 01st June 2009


...that's for three private jets, two helicopter rides, extra planes for security and closing roads for motorcade
It was a campaign pledge that Barack Obama didn't dare break - a promise to take his wife out for dinner and a show once the election was over.

So on the weekend he booked a babysitter, asked Michelle to put on a little black dress and swept her off for a date.

The President picked up the tab for a meal at a low-key restaurant, Blue Hill, that specialises in locally grown dishes.



Let's hit the town: President Barack Obama and wife Michelle prepare to leave the Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland on a flight to New York for their night out


Mr Obama clasps his wife's hand as he helps her negotiate the White House lawn in high heels on their way to Marine One for the start of the date

He had also paid £60 apiece for two tickets to Joe Turner's Come And Gone, a play about a man coming to terms with the history of slavery.

As a little extra, he shelled out for two martinis to toast his first five months in the White House.

Overall, not too extravagant, and few would begrudge the hard-working couple such a treat.

Unfortunately, there were one or two other bills to settle at the end of the night.



High spirits: The President promised his wife a night out once the election was over when on the campaign trail last year


The romantic jaunt is estimated to have cost the taxpayer more than £45,000 in transport and security costs - because the date was in New York.

The President used three planes, one to carry the couple and two to ferry aides and reporters all the way from Washington.

The cost of each flight was thought to be nearly £15,000.


The bill was pushed even higher with the use of two helicopters, one to take the Obamas to catch their plane in Washington and another to zip the party into Manhattan from JFK airport.

Police also shut down New York streets for the motorcade to pass through so they could get to their date on time.



Table for two: The couple dined at the Blue Hill restaurant in Greenwich Village. Meanwhile diners were eager to take pictures of the President and his First Lady



Stretching the budget: The presidential limo waits at the theatre

All the transport and security costs were picked up by the White House.

But the President was unapologetic, saying: 'I am taking my wife to New York City because I promised her during the campaign that I would take her to a Broadway show after it was all finished.'

In one concession to the tough economic climate, the couple flew on a smaller Gulfstream rather than the Boeing 747 customarily used as the presidential Air Force One.




Let's hit Broadway: The couple enjoyed a performance at the Belasco Theatre of Joe Turner's Come And Gone



In demand: The presidential visit drew huge crowds outside the theatre

However, Gail Gitcho, of the Republican National Committee, said Mr Obama could just as easily have taken his wife to see a show in Washington for a fraction of the cost.

'If President Obama wants to go to the theatre, isn't the presidential box at the Kennedy Centre good enough?' she said.


The Republican Party slammed the President for taking an extravagant outing at a time when American car giant General Motors is set to plunge into bankruptcy.

'As President Obama prepares to wing into Manhattan's theatre district on Air Force One to take in a Broadway show, GM is preparing to file bankruptcy and families across America continue to struggle to pay their bills,' read the statement issued before the trip.

[Cold_War_Warrior]

Obama: Sacrifices in time of record debt means; Let them eat Hamburger Helper…I’m jetting off to New York City for dinner and a show!

[Ex_Spy_Guy]

Obama needs to clean my pool

[harumph]

Thank goodness he was able to reduce some of his staff's salaries before he started buying things and traipsing around the country on our dime. That's what I call planning ahead.

[Streelsh]

IMAGINE the uproar in the press if a REPUBLICAN President would have done the same thing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

All of the headlines would have read "President McCain to Unemployed: Drop Dead !!!"

[Miss America]

They are just a little too.."in your face" with their extravagant spending...lucky for them they are Democrats so the media lets them get away with it.

[ValricoKate]

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/05/protestors-gree.html

People are starting to get fed up w/ the attitude of the elitist.

What was it Obama said a while back?

You are not going to be able to give out these big bonuses until you pay taxpayers back. You can't get corporate jets. You can't go take a trip to Las Vegas or go down to the Super Bowl on the taxpayers' dime. There's got to be some accountability and some responsibility."
and then he said:

We are out of money

and then he takes his "private" plane out for a dinner ...:rolleyes:

[AvgGuyIA]

I wish I could jet off to New York City to see a broadway show. I'm unemployed thanks to foolish people in Washington DC. But am I on welfare...do I even collect an unemployment check when I am clearly eligible due to being laid off because of the economy? No...I'm too self-reliant to depend on the State to feed, clothe and house me.

Yet...who is the guy who is demonized by the Left? It's little ol' me and others like me because we tell others to do as we say and do: be reliant on yourself...not your neighbor or a hard-working taxpayer who doesn't even know you.

The rest of you can go and enjoy the broadway show with the Obama's if you want. I'll just have to pass.

[oldandtired]

They are just a little too.."in your face" with their extravagant spending...lucky for them they are Democrats so the media lets them get away with it.

Actually, I think you are missing the bigger picture here.
He is showing us how much he can get away with without being crucified by the media. He takes an inch and gets away with it..then a foot...then a yeard...and then a mile.

Case in point...

He did not lose popularity for nominating an individual with a tax issue to the cabinet post. Geithner got the wrath of some...but Obama not only came out unscathed...but he got the man he wants (and some great job Geithner is doing I must say!)

Case 2....

He nominated a supreme court choice with 2 very controversial statements in her history...one tha borderlines on racist. Yes, she is being analyzed by some (few) of the media...but Obama, again, has received NO media criticism for his choice..Who would EVER think that a supreme court nominee would have some remarks in his or her past as she does...but Obama's popularity is in tact.

Case 3...

Only a fool would not think that a date with his wife at the cost of 24K of taxpayer money would not receive criticism during a major recession where unemployemtn is higher than it has been in 30 years.....yet he did it anyway...almost as if he KNEW he would not be criticized.

He has been testing the waters with things like bowing to kings and lying to the public about it....

And the media conttinues to give him a pass.

He is playing the public by playing the media...almost like an "I dare you" game.

Very interesting....watch it from that standpoint....many moves are "I dare you to criiticize me" moves

[mozalf]

The jug-eared one and Michelle Antoinette are as arrogant as they come. Bunch of parasites!

[homiebrah]

Well, we are out of money now.

Good to know we finance his dates.

[harumph]

Actually, I think you are missing the bigger picture here.
He is showing us how much he can get away with without being crucified by the media. He takes an inch and gets away with it..then a foot...then a yeard...and then a mile.

Case in point...

He did not lose popularity for nominating an individual with a tax issue to the cabinet post. Geithner got the wrath of some...but Obama not only came out unscathed...but he got the man he wants (and some great job Geithner is doing I must say!)

Case 2....

He nominated a supreme court choice with 2 very controversial statements in her history...one tha borderlines on racist. Yes, she is being analyzed by some (few) of the media...but Obama, again, has received NO media criticism for his choice..Who would EVER think that a supreme court nominee would have some remarks in his or her past as she does...but Obama's popularity is in tact.

Case 3...

Only a fool would not think that a date with his wife at the cost of 24K of taxpayer money would not receive criticism during a major recession where unemployemtn is higher than it has been in 30 years.....yet he did it anyway...almost as if he KNEW he would not be criticized.

He has been testing the waters with things like bowing to kings and lying to the public about it....

And the media conttinues to give him a pass.

He is playing the public by playing the media...almost like an "I dare you" game.

Very interesting....watch it from that standpoint....many moves are "I dare you to criiticize me" moves

I really don't think he's smart enough to know he won't be criticized. His handlers know he's simply a bratty, 12 year old with a huge allowance. Now, do I think they're thumbing their noses at us. You bet I do.

(I could be wrong about his intelligence, but I'm probably not. Either way, this little show of defiance does not go unnoticed by the masses; I don't care how much the media glazes it.)

[oldandtired]

I really don't think he's smart enough to know he won't be criticized. His handlers know he's simply a bratty, 12 year old with a huge allowance. Now, do I think they're thumbing their noses at us. You bet I do.

(I could be wrong about his intelligence, but I'm probably not. Either way, this little show of defiance does not go unnoticed by the masses; I don't care how much the media glazes it.)

Axelrod is a genius...Obama has the profice that allowed axelrod to use his genious effectively.

[harumph]

Axelrod is a genius...Obama has the profice that allowed axelrod to use his genious effectively.

You are probably correct, but this is most definitely, a concerted effort. To run damage control behind this kid (these guys) is getting harder and harder, tho.

[AvgGuyIA]

If the public paid for his theatre tickets, he should be impeached, removed from Office and sent to Leavenworth Federal Prison.

[sironin]

If the public paid for his theatre tickets, he should be impeached, removed from Office and sent to Leavenworth Federal Prison.

Feel free to cite, or petition your representative to create, the relevant law that would prohibit the President from doing what he did.

[harumph]

Feel free to cite, or petition your representative to create, the relevant law that would prohibit the President from doing what he did.

L'il defensive, aren't we?

[mozalf]

Feel free to cite, or petition your representative to create, the relevant law that would prohibit the President from doing what he did.


"Let them eat cake!"

[sironin]

L'il defensive, aren't we?

I just don't understand the outrage, given my own understanding of a lack of rules that would prohibit or govern the funding choices of this exact occurrence.

[harumph]

The important thing is, we need to find our who Michelle was wearing to the play and what they ate for dinner. I just don't have the stomach to slide over to MSNBC to find out. (I wonder if she wore something that exposed those guns of hers. [sigh])

[oldandtired]

You are probably correct, but this is most definitely, a concerted effort. To run damage control behind this kid (these guys) is getting harder and harder, tho.

Do not fool yourself into thinking that the Sotomayor noimination was not made just as the Obama campaign was designed.

It was.

It tied the hands of the opposition.

Tell me about Wright...what are you a racist?

Tell me why Holder pushed the pardon of Rich...what are you a racist?

tell me about Sotomayors comments....what are you a racist?

Like I said, Axelrod took a perfect profile in Obama to use his genius effectively.

Axelrod is pulling the strings.

And the rest of us have a choice...be part of the flock or be labeled as one of two things...a racist or an obstructionist.

[harumph]

Axelrod is pulling the strings.


There's way too much money being thrown around to put only Axelrod at the helm [read: Soros & the Fed].

[RTchoke]

The important thing is, we need to find our who Michelle was wearing to the play and what they ate for dinner. I just don't have the stomach to slide over to MSNBC to find out. (I wonder if she wore something that exposed those guns of hers. [sigh])

Yep, she sure did.

Little black sleeveless dress. Little blue clutch purse.

[oldandtired]

There's way too much money being thrown around to put only Axelrod at the helm [read: Soros & the Fed].


Soros is the money man...Axelrod is the genius....Obama is the puppet doing whatever it is axelrod tells him to do.

Yes...it it Soros' show...but it is Axelrods genius.

Whenever have we had a president that gets away with "no comment"...gets away with tax issue nominees...

Heck...and gets away with nominating a SCOTUS jurist with the two comments she has in her past. WHether she meant them or not.....IREELEVANT....Obama did not seem to care as if he knew he would not get resistance.

[Mohawk5]

He was applauded with standing ovations everywhere he went. This will give the GOP no traction what so ever.

[bloods vs crips]

Bush gave us $5 octillion in debt. Don't ask for proof, I heard it somewhere so it must be true.

[homiebrah]

Since we paid for the date, who gets the doggie bag?

[oldandtired]

He was applauded with standing ovations everywhere he went. This will give the GOP no traction what so ever.

When the GOP questioned the fact that Geithner never told the IRS that he had made the same mistlke the year before, it got no traction...

When the GOP questioned why they were given only 10 hours to rad a 700 page trillion dollar bill, it got no traction.

They have successfully made it so that anything the GOP brings up, valid or not, makes them obstructionists....or racists.

They are successfully taking the publics intelligence and shoving it right up the publics arses.

When he bowed to the king and told us all he did not bow despite video tape showing otherwise...and he got away with that lie....he knew he can do whatever he pleases as the american people are gullible.

[harumph]

He was applauded with standing ovations everywhere he went. This will give the GOP no traction what so ever.

You may be wrong about this. He's playing to his base when he goes to NYC. but there are some who are tiring of his do-what-I-say-and-not-what-I-do mentality. The GOP wants those people [back].

[Penny in WV]

Feel free to cite, or petition your representative to create, the relevant law that would prohibit the President from doing what he did.


________________________

His ignorant display of elitism is outrageous. Law or no law makes no difference. He is an empty suit that is destroying our Country and the lack of accountability displayed by his apologists makes me sick.

[Penny in WV]

He was applauded with standing ovations everywhere he went. This will give the GOP no traction what so ever.

_________________________

I disagree, that was before the credit card statement arrived for payment. I want the GOP to take issue with this, it is the right thing to do.

[Penny in WV]

Bush gave us $5 octillion in debt. Don't ask for proof, I heard it somewhere so it must be true.

___________________

And...so...what exactly is your point? What does this have to do with Bush? So, its okay with you for this one to waste OUR money?

[oldandtired]

___________________

And...so...what exactly is your point? What does this have to do with Bush? So, its okay with you for this one to waste OUR money?

It was a sarcastic defelction....but a defelction none the less.

[Penny in WV]

It was a sarcastic defelction....but a defelction none the less.


___________________________

Its just not funny...no wonder he gets away with this ****.

[toreyj01]

Tempest in a teapot, keep your eyes on the big issues folks.

And a 4.5 Trillion Debt? Its 11 Trillion before he even got here, so are you saying its a 4.5 Trillion deficit? Because its not.

Where is this 4.5 Trillion number coming from? The deficit is slightly larger than last years.

[oldandtired]

Tempest in a teapot, keep your eyes on the big issues folks.

And a 4.5 Trillion Debt? Its 11 Trillion before he even got here, so are you saying its a 4.5 Trillion deficit? Because its not.

Where is this 4.5 Trillion number coming from? The deficit is slightly larger than last years.



lmao.....DEFLECTION once again.

Why do liberals run from debate ?

They look to punch holes in things that do not relly address the subject....as they have nothing to say on the subvject itself.

I know..I know...Obama did not bow..I simply saw him do it but he said the video is wrong...it was taken out of context.

You guys will fall for anything...and not care about a dammed thing.

LMAO....pathetic!

[harumph]

lmao.....DEFLECTION once again.

Why do liberals run from debate ?

They look to punch holes in things that do not relly address the subject....as they have nothing to say on the subvject itself.

I know..I know...Obama did not bow..I simply saw him do it but he said the video is wrong...it was taken out of context.

You guys will fall for anything...and not care about a dammed thing.

LMAO....pathetic!

Your honor, the light was NOT red, it was magenta.

[bloods vs crips]

___________________

And...so...what exactly is your point? What does this have to do with Bush? So, its okay with you for this one to waste OUR money?

when someone actually makes an honest assessment of the expenses thus far, we can discuss it. Throwing out bogus debt and deficit numbers while demonstrating an inability to differentiate between the two terms is ridiculous.

[bloods vs crips]

lmao.....DEFLECTION once again.

Why do liberals run from debate ?

They look to punch holes in things that do not relly address the subject....as they have nothing to say on the subvject itself.

I know..I know...Obama did not bow..I simply saw him do it but he said the video is wrong...it was taken out of context.

You guys will fall for anything...and not care about a dammed thing.

LMAO....pathetic!

I care about facts and honest discourse. When half of one's point is based on a blatant fabrication, it's pointless to discuss one part. And it's hardly a deflection to illuminate the fallacy.

[harumph]

when someone actually makes an honest assessment of the expenses thus far, we can discuss it. Throwing out bogus debt and deficit numbers while demonstrating an inability to differentiate between the two terms is ridiculous.

priceless. :))


See ya.

[oldandtired]

I care about facts and honest discourse. When half of one's point is based on a blatant fabrication, it's pointless to discuss one part. And it's hardly a deflection to illuminate the fallacy.


It is a deflection.

The facts are 3 small airforce jets...one for him..one for his wife...and one for the press...at a cost of 24K (taxpayer money)so he can see a show and have dinner in NYC....

Those are the facts...and yours is a deflection.

Thanks.

[bloods vs crips]

priceless. :))


See ya.

You either agree with the bogus number in the thread title or you disagree that it's important to be accurate.

[bloods vs crips]

It is a deflection.

The facts are 3 small airforce jets...one for him..one for his wife...and one for the press...at a cost of 24K (taxpayer money)so he can see a show and have dinner in NYC....

Those are the facts...and yours is a deflection.

Thanks.

Look at the freaking thread title. 1/2 of the title references a debt "fact."

[avergbear]

It is a deflection.

The facts are 3 small airforce jets...one for him..one for his wife...and one for the press...at a cost of 24K (taxpayer money)so he can see a show and have dinner in NYC....

Those are the facts...and yours is a deflection.

Thanks.

You forgot the cost of two Marine One Helicopters and the Secret Service.

I wonder how much Michelle’s clothes cost?

[bloods vs crips]

You forgot the cost of two Marine One Helicopters and the Secret Service.

I wonder how much Michelle’s clothes cost?

I wonder what the cost of any Presidential trip is.

[oldandtired]

I wonder what the cost of any Presidential trip is.

Deflection once again.

This was a night on the town...not a needed presidnetial trip.

He could have had dinner and a show in DC.

It had nothing to do with presidential responsibilities.

Why are you avoiding this fact?

[oldandtired]

You forgot the cost of two Marine One Helicopters and the Secret Service.

I wonder how much Michelle’s clothes cost?

I am assuming all of those costs were in the 24K number.

[oldandtired]

You forgot the cost of two Marine One Helicopters and the Secret Service.

I wonder how much Michelle’s clothes cost?


Secret service and Michelole duds are constant...whether ddinner was down the block or in NYC.

He did not need to swell the cost to 24K...THAT is wasteful spending.

[avergbear]

I wonder what the cost of any Presidential trip is.

This was not a “trip,” but nothing short of an arrogant disregard for the taxpayer.

If a member of our Military had used Government assets for personal pleasure trips, they would end up in jail.

[avergbear]

Secret service and Michelole duds are constant...whether ddinner was down the block or in NYC.

He did not need to swell the cost to 24K...THAT is wasteful spending.

Transporting the Secret Service to New York, along with their assets, is not a constant.

Sarah Palin’s clothes were a constant as well, but the left sure made a big deal out of them.

[oldandtired]

Transporting the Secret Service to New York, along with their assets, is not a constant.

Sarah Palin’s clothes were a constant as well, but the left sure made a big deal out of them.

Yes...and interestingly enough, MY news reported on Palins outfit costs and I decided whether it was important or not...And I decided to address it on here...

Seems the liberals dont mind not hearing things on the news and making that decision themselves.

And then they come on here when they hear it for the first time and after researching the validity, they simply say "who cares"

[oldandtired]

And poof....with no explanation to their side of the debate....and no answers to quyestions...the liberal...ahem...."debaters" are gone.

[harumph]

[crickets from the lib camp]

[JerryN]

Well, the guy has over a Million bucks from his books.

He couldn't take his wife on a 'date' between Nov 4 and Jan 20?

And at a much lower cost to the taxpayer!

How long until he invents a gaudy military outfit to go along with his S American dictator persona?

[oldandtired]

[crickets from the lib camp]

sad how they run from logic.

Logic scares the crap out of them.

[harumph]

You know, perhaps he just wants to "drive" the airplane. My son is like that. He's 5. But my son understands the value of a dollar, so he has Obama beat on that one.

[oldandtired]

You know, perhaps he just wants to "drive" the airplane. My son is like that. He's 5. But my son understands the value of a dollar, so he has Obama beat on that one.

Seems he has him beat on maturity as well.

[ValricoKate]

How long?

How long will the American Public put up w/ this ?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124364352135868189.html

Florida Rep. Alcee Hastings spent $24,730 in taxpayer money last year to lease a 2008 luxury Lexus hybrid sedan. Ohio Rep. Michael Turner expensed a $1,435 digital camera. Eni Faleomavaega, the House delegate from American Samoa, bought two 46-inch Sony TVs.

[oldandtired]

How long?

How long will the American Public put up w/ this ?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124364352135868189.html
Florida Rep. Alcee Hastings spent $24,730 in taxpayer money last year to lease a 2008 luxury Lexus hybrid sedan. Ohio Rep. Michael Turner expensed a $1,435 digital camera. Eni Faleomavaega, the House delegate from American Samoa, bought two 46-inch Sony TVs.


According to goeagles....no one cares.

Pathetic apathetic attitude the public has nowadays.

[wonderingrover]

Wonder if Al Gore is checking up on him to see if he purchased carbon credits to offset those evil emmissions from the plane?

[Middy]

________________________

His ignorant display of elitism is outrageous. Law or no law makes no difference. He is an empty suit that is destroying our Country and the lack of accountability displayed by his apologists makes me sick.

Very well said.

[ValricoKate]

According to goeagles....no one cares.

Pathetic apathetic attitude the public has nowadays.

I wonder why the wsj published on it?

[RTchoke]

I wonder why the wsj published on it?

But was it in the NY Times? If it wasn't in the Times, it's not news. :naughty:

:))

[toreyj01]

lmao.....DEFLECTION once again.

Why do liberals run from debate ?

They look to punch holes in things that do not relly address the subject....as they have nothing to say on the subvject itself.

I know..I know...Obama did not bow..I simply saw him do it but he said the video is wrong...it was taken out of context.

You guys will fall for anything...and not care about a dammed thing.

LMAO....pathetic!The point of your OP was that there was a 4.5 Trillion dollar debt and thus Obama should not take his wife to see a play on broadway.

The debt was 11 Trillion before he took office, but his budget is closer to the 4.5 Trillion dollar number. But thats the entire budget, the deficit, due to the fact that he did not add in the wars or his stimulus on a separate budget line, is actually very close to last years.

So the basis of your initial query was factually very confusing, this is not obfuscation, this is simply an attempt to ascertain the focus of your complaint, and where this mythic 4.5 Trillion number comes from.

If you choose to throw random numbers out, be prepared to back them up. If you are called out, have the class to admit it if you are just pounding sand.

I run from nothing.

Good day to you.

[CaptainCrunch]

Obama is sooo romantic and Michelle is ever so dreamy! :flag:

Those 2 kids deserve a night out to celebrate and relax after saving our country from ruin by the likes of George Bush!! :twisted:

Beside $24,000 dollars is what it takes just to start up Air Force One. So really the Obama's saved America tens of thousands of dollars this weekend!! :clap:









;)

[harumph]

The point of your OP was that there was a 4.5 Trillion dollar debt and thus Obama should not take his wife to see a play on broadway.

The debt was 11 Trillion before he took office, but his budget is closer to the 4.5 Trillion dollar number. But thats the entire budget, the deficit, due to the fact that he did not add in the wars or his stimulus on a separate budget line, is actually very close to last years.

So the basis of your initial query was factually very confusing, this is not obfuscation, this is simply an attempt to ascertain the focus of your complaint, and where this mythic 4.5 Trillion number comes from.

If you choose to throw random numbers out, be prepared to back them up. If you are called out, have the class to admit it if you are just pounding sand.

I run from nothing.

Good day to you.

Because you totally missed the point of the OP, you will be constantly chided. And, because of your undying love for all things Obama, you will again, become agitated with the comments.

Obama went out of his way to chastise companies for spending government money for frivolous trips and tradeshows. Yet he does exactly that with his little jaunts to here and there for his own personal pleasure-on our nickel.

[oldandtired]

The point of your OP was that there was a 4.5 Trillion dollar debt and thus Obama should not take his wife to see a play on broadway.

The debt was 11 Trillion before he took office, but his budget is closer to the 4.5 Trillion dollar number. But thats the entire budget, the deficit, due to the fact that he did not add in the wars or his stimulus on a separate budget line, is actually very close to last years.

So the basis of your initial query was factually very confusing, this is not obfuscation, this is simply an attempt to ascertain the focus of your complaint, and where this mythic 4.5 Trillion number comes from.

If you choose to throw random numbers out, be prepared to back them up. If you are called out, have the class to admit it if you are just pounding sand.

I run from nothing.

Good day to you.

Wasnt my OP....But you opted to respond to my logic by criticizing the OP.

Wonder why that was.....

[kaw9577]

when someone actually makes an honest assessment of the expenses thus far, we can discuss it. Throwing out bogus debt and deficit numbers while demonstrating an inability to differentiate between the two terms is ridiculous.

The actual numbers of the debt and deficit is not the issue. We all know the economy is in bad shape, we know we are in a recession, people are losing their jobs every day. Bottom line, the outing shows poor judgement and poor taste regardless of the actual debt and deficit. They have restaurants and theatres in DC.

[toreyj01]

Wasnt my OP....But you opted to respond to my logic by criticizing the OP.

Wonder why that was.....I thought you were the OP by the way you addressed me. My bad.

Care to respond to the points I was making? You said I was deflecting, and I made the point as to how I was not. 2 posts in a row you have addressed me without making a salient fact or rebuttal backed by actual information instead of opinion.

Who's deflecting, actually?

[oldandtired]

I thought you were the OP by the way you addressed me. My bad.

Care to respond to the points I was making? You said I was deflecting, and I made the point as to how I was not. 2 posts in a row you have addressed me without making a salient fact or rebuttal backed by actual information instead of opinion.

Who's deflecting, actually?

I did not address what you posted as it is not relevant to the thread. Sure, you corrected facts and figures....but whether the figures were accurate or not is irrelevant to the message of the post.

Why did you not address the message of the post and instead simply corrected the "4.5" figure?

[Nashville]

There's no way $24,000 is the cost of this date. Three planes, several helicopters, the add'l plane that had to haul the mororcade vehicles, 100's of personnel, the local police etc. Of course, the Whitehouse is refusing to expose the real costs.

Then there's the huge "carbon footprint." No squeals about that, from the global warmists?

[RTchoke]

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f9/Tweeney/2009-06-01.jpg

:D