Abortionist George "Baby Killer" Tiller assassinated [Archive]

Dual867PowerMac

May 31st, 2009, 6:05 pm

Lord forgive me for not being able to sympathize with George Tiller.

I'm not an advocate of violence, but I don't sympathize with George Tiller one little bit. He chose his path and he's burning in hell for it.

I'm especially worried about George Tiller being made a martyr.

FreeRadical

May 31st, 2009, 6:30 pm

In Christian doctrine, if you are in Church, especially when performing the rites you are in a "state of grace." If you die in this "state of grace" you automatically go to Heaven.

And abortions will not be stopped and women will go to other doctors. But the Christian terrorism will continue.

Dual867PowerMac

May 31st, 2009, 6:34 pm

In Christian doctrine, if you are in Church, especially when performing the rites you are in a "state of grace." If you die in this "state of grace" you automatically go to Heaven.
Actually, I think he was ushering and the shooting occurred in the lobby of the Lutheran church.

FreeRadical

May 31st, 2009, 6:45 pm

Actually, I think he was ushering and the shooting occurred in the lobby of the Lutheran church.

But he was performing Church duties on Church property. He's looking down on all of us right now, shaking his head at the barbarity of man.

LouC

May 31st, 2009, 6:45 pm

Link (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/us/01tiller.html?ref=global-home)

It's poetic justice if you ask me.

Cool?

Cool that somebody got gunned down in a church?

Man what were you thinking using a "Cool" smiley icon to highlight this thread...

BillyBobUSA

May 31st, 2009, 6:52 pm

Cool?

Cool that somebody got gunned down in a church?

Man what were you thinking using a "Cool" smiley icon to highlight this thread...

:boohoo:

BillyBobUSA

May 31st, 2009, 6:53 pm

But he was performing Church duties on Church property. He's looking down on all of us right now, shaking his head at the barbarity of man.

Yeah, standing right beside Martin Luther who would have tossed his sorry baby-killing butt into the fires of Gehena himself.

:rolleyes:

Dual867PowerMac

May 31st, 2009, 6:53 pm

Cool?

Cool that somebody got gunned down in a church?

Man what were you thinking using a "Cool" smiley icon to highlight this thread...
I had no idea I'd selected it. I've edited.

Dual867PowerMac

May 31st, 2009, 6:55 pm

Yeah, standing right beside Martin Luther who would have tossed his sorry baby-killing butt into the fires of Gehena himself.

:rolleyes:
Different debate for another time and place.

Back on topic: I worry about abortionists martyring George Tiller.

EmmanuelGoldstein

May 31st, 2009, 7:08 pm

I'm especially worried about George Tiller being made a martyr.

Then don't support his cold-blooded, premeditated murder.

BillyBobUSA

May 31st, 2009, 7:08 pm

Different debate for another time and place.

Not looking to debate what Luther's final abode is so much as pointing out that Luther would have had nothing to do with this guy except to condemn him every time he saw him and petition for the abortionists execution for murder.

Back on topic: I worry about abortionists martyring George Tiller.

Sounds like he has already been martyred in their view, and I can promise you that they will 'wave the bloody shirt' and attack Christians at every opportunity till the public gets tired of hearing it.

BillyBobUSA

May 31st, 2009, 7:10 pm

Then don't support his cold-blooded, premeditated murder.

Applause of the ends is not necesarily support for the means to the ends.

I hope Tiller is having a very unpleasant time right now.

Dual867PowerMac

May 31st, 2009, 7:13 pm

Then don't support his cold-blooded, premeditated murder.
I'm not supporting it. But would you not call Tiller's profession cold-blooded, premeditated murder?

Dual867PowerMac

May 31st, 2009, 7:20 pm

Not looking to debate what Luther's final abode is so much as pointing out that Luther would have had nothing to do with this guy except to condemn him every time he saw him and petition for the abortionists execution for murder.
I'd hope so.

Sounds like he has already been martyred in their view, and I can promise you that they will 'wave the bloody shirt' and attack Christians at every opportunity till the public gets tired of hearing it.
You're right. And NOW or Planned Parenthood will create the George Tiller Award and give it to champions of "women's right of choice" or "reproductive rights" and the winner will whine how an evil person took Tiller away and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. :boohoo:

If that's not martyrdom I don't know what is.

terri910

May 31st, 2009, 7:33 pm

Link (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/us/01tiller.html?ref=global-home)

It's poetic justice if you ask me.
IMO, such "justice" is not our prerogative.

This is horrible news.

terri910

May 31st, 2009, 7:36 pm

In Christian doctrine, if you are in Church, especially when performing the rites you are in a "state of grace." If you die in this "state of grace" you automatically go to Heaven.

This is Christian doctrine? :confused:

I would agree with the idea of one in a "state of grace" going to heaven....but I'm afraid your description of how exactly one is in that state of grace doesn't quite mesh with my Christian faith.

And I'm guessing that there are other Christian denominations that would be scratching their collective heads over your assertion of "Christian doctrine."

Hadassah

May 31st, 2009, 7:50 pm

Link (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/us/01tiller.html?ref=global-home)

It's poetic justice if you ask me.

I'd rather he had converted and repented. I'm not surprised that this happened, but my heart is saddened that it did.

The man who murdered Dr. Tiller is absolutely wrong for doing this.

Dual867PowerMac

May 31st, 2009, 8:01 pm

IMO, such "justice" is not our prerogative.

This is horrible news.
I'm not calling it justice, just poetic justice, which is defined as "a literary device in which virtue is ultimately rewarded or vice punished... by an ironic twist of fate intimately related to the character's own conduct."

Now that describes George Tiller's assassination to a T.

terri910

May 31st, 2009, 8:04 pm

I'd rather he had converted and repented. I'm not surprised that this happened, but my heart is saddened that it did.

The man who murdered Dr. Tiller is absolutely wrong for doing this.
And, as you said elsewhere, we should pray for all involved! For Dr. Tiller's soul, for his family, and for the killer to repent and seek forgiveness. :pray:

notluzn

May 31st, 2009, 8:24 pm

I'll sleep tonight. Sucks that they just don't ban the practice.

angelicmadrigal

May 31st, 2009, 9:16 pm

I'm not supporting it. But would you not call Tiller's profession cold-blooded, premeditated murder?

it'd be nice if I could start goign around killing all the people I don't like. Must be a nice luxury to be able to do that.

WhiteFang

May 31st, 2009, 9:34 pm

Domestic terrorism in its purity.

sgdp

May 31st, 2009, 9:41 pm

Yeah. Terrorism is awesome.

Now we know how the "evil Muslims" feel.

FreeRadical

May 31st, 2009, 9:43 pm

This is Christian doctrine? :confused:

I would agree with the idea of one in a "state of grace" going to heaven....but I'm afraid your description of how exactly one is in that state of grace doesn't quite mesh with my Christian faith.

And I'm guessing that there are other Christian denominations that would be scratching their collective heads over your assertion of "Christian doctrine."

It's old school belief. Much like the selling of indulgences. In William Shakespeare's 'Hamlet,' he wanted to kill his uncle Claudius, but he was prying in a church. The belief at the time was if he was killed in a Church, you automatically went to Heaven. Hamlet waited because he did not want that to happen. I don't know all of the superstitions wrapped up in Christian doctrine. A friend of mine brought it up to me, and I thought it ironic. It's no different than believing that he is burning in a lake of fire right now.

Dual867PowerMac

May 31st, 2009, 10:02 pm

sgdp

May 31st, 2009, 10:04 pm

I respect that^^.

grapabeaux

May 31st, 2009, 10:29 pm

Domestic terrorism in its purity.

What domestic terrorist group does this guy belong to?

terri910

May 31st, 2009, 10:30 pm

It's old school belief. Much like the selling of indulgences. In William Shakespeare's 'Hamlet,' he wanted to kill his uncle Claudius, but he was prying in a church. The belief at the time was if he was killed in a Church, you automatically went to Heaven. Hamlet waited because he did not want that to happen. I don't know all of the superstitions wrapped up in Christian doctrine. A friend of mine brought it up to me, and I thought it ironic. It's no different than believing that he is burning in a lake of fire right now.
Perhaps old school belief of someone, but not doctrine (do you know the difference?). And you have lumped all Christian denominations, whose doctrines vary greatly, together. My advice to you would be not to trust Shakespeare to teach you doctrine, and to not try and explain something that you admit you don't know.

WhiteFang

May 31st, 2009, 10:57 pm

What domestic terrorist group does this guy belong to?
Do I care what group he or she belongs to? Rules are simple. My daughter OBGYN and she does perform abortions when it is required. Anyone who intend to hurt my daughter will be dealt with beyond his or her imagination.

Proud parent of OBGYN Doctor

NascarGirl2448

May 31st, 2009, 11:07 pm

That scumbag murderer was lucky it didn't kill anyone else. Agree with Dr Tiller's profession or not, there was NO excuse for him to be murdered, at church or otherwise.

Hereintheusa

May 31st, 2009, 11:08 pm

Look, guys... I know what I've said here. Terri's right. This was horrible and so my conduct has been horrible, too.

Two wrongs don't make a right. I completely ignored that.

Pray for George Tiller's soul and for his family.

Sounds to me like you are suddenly scared that you might **** of some of the mods. Maybe if you had said this after your first post but you kept coming back and posting again and again.

I hope this is genuine on your part and not just trying to backpeddle and if it is genuine then a big kudos to you for manning up and accepting what you said in your OP was pretty despiscable and hardly a christian reaction.

Hoobeedoo Bejesus

May 31st, 2009, 11:15 pm

Link (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/01/us/01tiller.html?ref=global-home)

It's poetic justice if you ask me.

How can you support this and be against abortions at the same time?

Really, how do you justify that?

Edit: Sorry, didn't read the rest of the thread.

terri910

May 31st, 2009, 11:17 pm

Sounds to me like you are suddenly scared that you might **** of some of the mods. Maybe if you had said this after your first post but you kept coming back and posting again and again.

I hope this is genuine on your part and not just trying to backpeddle and if it is genuine then a big kudos to you for manning up and accepting what you said in your OP was pretty despiscable and hardly a christian reaction.
I assure you, it was genuine.

foxgurrrl

May 31st, 2009, 11:30 pm

You can't hide behind your religion on this one. It was wrong to kill him, but anyone who would perform abortions is a sick individual. Especially late term abortions. You can't say it's not a human at that point, not with any legitimacy. I had an ultrasound at ten weeks and could CLEARLY see my daughter's hands and feet - fingers and toes - moving around. And I think anyone who says they are religious - or Christian - and performs abortions - is a fraud.

That being said, I don't like organized religion. But if you claim to uphold those beliefs and yet commit acts of violence, you should just be an atheist. Because you obviously have no respect for life.

Truthfully, this means just one less scumbag in the world, even though there are still so many out there it can be discouraging. I do not condone the violence committed against this man - however, I'm not going to shed a tear or feel sorry for the guy. Maybe his death means someone (or many) will be born that would have been aborted late term.