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Sun
May 29th, 2009, 10:31 pm
Write a letter to the editor to let Hispancis know that the Dems filibustered FOUR times against Miguel Estrada.

More from Byron York:

"Estrada's nomination for a federal judgeship set off alarm bells among Democrats. There is a group of left-leaning organizations -- People for the American Way, NARAL, the Alliance for Justice, the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, the NAACP, and others -- that work closely with Senate Democrats to promote Democratic judicial nominations and kill Republican ones. They were particularly concerned about Estrada.

In November, 2001, representatives of those groups met with Democratic Senate staff. One of those staffers then wrote a memo to Democratic Sen. Richard Durbin, informing Durbin that the groups wanted to stall Bush nominees, particularly three they had identified as good targets. "They also identified Miguel Estrada as especially dangerous," the staffer added, "because he has a minimal paper trail, he is Latino, and the White House seems to be grooming him for a Supreme Court appointment. They want to hold Estrada off as long as possible."

It was precisely the fact that Estrada was Hispanic that made Democrats and their activist allies want to kill his nomination. They were determined to deny a Republican White House credit, political and otherwise, for putting a first-rate Hispanic nominee on the bench."

Read it all for your letter-writing material:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/When-Democrats-derailed-a-GOP-Latino-nominee-46407227.html

superjames1992
May 29th, 2009, 10:34 pm
Well, North Carolina had the fastest growing hispanic population in the country several years ago (not sure if they still do) and my town has a fairly decent Hispanic population, though it's certainly not overwhelming.

Per Wikipedia...

The racial makeup of Greensboro, NC was 55.49% White (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_%28U.S._Census%29), 37.40% Black (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_American_%28U.S._Census%29) or African American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_%28United_States_Census%29), 4.35% Hispanic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanics_in_the_United_States) or Latino (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latino_%28U.S._Census%29). 2.84% Asian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_%28U.S._Census%29), 0.44% Native American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_%28U.S._Census%29), 0.04% Pacific Islander (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Islander_%28U.S._Census%29), 2.08% from other races (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_%28United_States_Census%29), and 1.71% from two or more races.

Sun
May 29th, 2009, 10:37 pm
Well, North Carolina had the fastest growing hispanic population in the country several years ago (not sure if they still do) and my town has a fairly decent Hispanic population, though it's certainly not overwhelming.

Per Wikipedia...

Even if it's not overwhelming, it would be worthwhile to write a letter to the editor. TOGETHER, we can get the truth out.

ChaosControl
May 29th, 2009, 10:38 pm
17.42% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race. These are not entirely accurate numbers as the local population has a large number of Hispanic migrant workers who work on asparagus and onion farms.

So probably quite a bit higher than 17.42%

TCUFan
May 29th, 2009, 10:41 pm
I'm a Pequeno.

TCUfan

Sun
May 29th, 2009, 10:49 pm
btw, Estrada had a very compelling story. He came from Hondurus when he was only 17, speaking little or no English, but quickly learned the language and ended up going to Harvard.

http://www.terra.com/addon/img/actualidad/1c9f263estradagp.jpg

Sun
May 29th, 2009, 10:54 pm
"New York Sen. Chuck Schumer was particularly ugly, labeling Mr. Estrada a right-wing "stealth missile" who was "way out of the mainstream" and openly questioning Mr. Estrada's truthfulness."

snip http://www.620wtmj.com/shows/charliesykes/46356697.html

But NOW Sen. Schumer has the gall to say the Republicans will be afraid to vote against Sotomayor, because they will alienate the Hispanic people.

But did the Dems alienate the Hispanic “leaders” when they filibustered against Estrada FOUR TIMES?

Sun
May 29th, 2009, 11:17 pm
Taking a look back:

"A Wake-Up Call
We failed Miguel Estrada and allowed Senate Democrats to erect a glass ceiling. by VIRGINIA THOMAS

Friday, September 5, 2003 12:01 A.M. EDT

Not only is this a sad day for Miguel and Laurie Estrada, but we have all let something unfortunate occur in Washington. We allowed the U.S. Senate to erect a "glass ceiling" in our courts--you can do all the right things in America, but if you do not agree with Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton, you need not apply as a federal judge. This is the message that Democrats hope minorities, in particular, get from their victory as they succeeded in repelling a talented man, who happens to be Hispanic, from public service. For the hard left, Miguel Estrada was not qualified to be a federal judge because he would not march to their drumbeat"

excerpt http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003974

The author is Clarence Thomas's wife.

DaveKlassix
May 29th, 2009, 11:24 pm
Where i live (near L.A.), the majority is hispanic and i'm the minority.

Sun
May 29th, 2009, 11:41 pm
Where i live (near L.A.), the majority is hispanic and i'm the minority.

Maybe you'll write that letter to the editor to remind Hispanics what the Dems did to Estrada.

WhiteHatBobby
May 30th, 2009, 12:46 am
I've written a letter and showed the evidence, quoting Jimmy Spencer to get the point around!

Ninjacorpse
May 30th, 2009, 12:54 am
Well you could pull a play from the dem handbook and just pretend to be hispanic.

Getty Girl
May 30th, 2009, 12:58 am
Maybe you'll write that letter to the editor to remind Hispanics what the Dems did to Estrada.
...liberals are scumbags. when will hispanics and other minorities wake up and realize the dems do nothing but exploit them.

Sun
May 31st, 2009, 5:37 pm
I've written a letter and showed the evidence, quoting Jimmy Spencer to get the point around!

Would you mind sharing the letter, or an excerpt of it?

Sun
May 31st, 2009, 6:20 pm
Well you could pull a play from the dem handbook and just pretend to be hispanic.

You don't need to be a Hispanic to write a letter to the editor, exposing what the Dems did to Estrada.

rory
May 31st, 2009, 6:26 pm
Write a letter to the editor to let Hispancis know that the Dems filibustered FOUR times against Miguel Estrada.

More from Byron York:

"Estrada's nomination for a federal judgeship set off alarm bells among Democrats. There is a group of left-leaning organizations -- People for the American Way, NARAL, the Alliance for Justice, the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, the NAACP, and others -- that work closely with Senate Democrats to promote Democratic judicial nominations and kill Republican ones. They were particularly concerned about Estrada.

In November, 2001, representatives of those groups met with Democratic Senate staff. One of those staffers then wrote a memo to Democratic Sen. Richard Durbin, informing Durbin that the groups wanted to stall Bush nominees, particularly three they had identified as good targets. "They also identified Miguel Estrada as especially dangerous," the staffer added, "because he has a minimal paper trail, he is Latino, and the White House seems to be grooming him for a Supreme Court appointment. They want to hold Estrada off as long as possible."

It was precisely the fact that Estrada was Hispanic that made Democrats and their activist allies want to kill his nomination. They were determined to deny a Republican White House credit, political and otherwise, for putting a first-rate Hispanic nominee on the bench."

Read it all for your letter-writing material:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/When-Democrats-derailed-a-GOP-Latino-nominee-46407227.html
So now two wrongs make a right?
Isn't it the Cons that always say quit looking backwards, Bush is gone lets move forward. Now you want to bring up Estrada and attempt to derail Sotomayer in the process. Just how will this help Republicans in the eyes of the Hispanic community or as G Gordan Liddy puts it the illegal alien community?
Please try to explain your plan to all of your local fishwraps, this will be as good as when Mitt Romney was caught in a rendition of "Who let the Dogs out" to the little African American kids. Be as sincere as you can possibly fake.

Sun
May 31st, 2009, 6:47 pm
So now two wrongs make a right?



Spelling out what happened to Estrada is NOT a wrong.

EmmanuelGoldstein
May 31st, 2009, 6:48 pm
Well, North Carolina had the fastest growing hispanic population in the country several years ago (not sure if they still do) and my town has a fairly decent Hispanic population, though it's certainly not overwhelming.

Per Wikipedia...
4.35%

You're being overrun.

Sun
May 31st, 2009, 6:50 pm
...liberals are scumbags. when will hispanics and other minorities wake up and realize the dems do nothing but exploit them.

Yes, the Dems use them.

And sadly, even some of the Hispanic "leaders" pretend to be for the Hispanics, but are really about LIBERALISM.

EmmanuelGoldstein
May 31st, 2009, 6:51 pm
...liberals are scumbags. when will hispanics and other minorities wake up and realize the dems do nothing but exploit them.

And yet another in a long line of "...if only [fill in name of minority] were smart enough..." posts. And then you people wonder why you don't have more minorities in your party.

Sun
May 31st, 2009, 7:14 pm
What "teed" me off was when Schumer boasted that the Republicans have to vote for Sotomayor so they won't alienate the Hispanic people, but look what he did, as I posted in Post #7.

The Dems not only didn't vote for Estrada, but they filibustered him four times.

The Hispanic people would have had a SCOTUS justice already, if it weren't for Schumer, et al, joining together against Estrada.

I know most of the Hispanic people share my social conservative values, so I want them to know the whole truth.

PheonixOps
May 31st, 2009, 8:27 pm
...liberals are scumbags. when will hispanics and other minorities wake up and realize the dems do nothing but exploit them.

Thanks for the laugh! :)) Why don't you go and spread that "message" amongst the "ignorant minorities"................

PheonixOps
May 31st, 2009, 8:29 pm
And yet another in a long line of "...if only [fill in name of minority] were smart enough..." posts. And then you people wonder why you don't have more minorities in your party.

LOL, word!

Jagergeist
May 31st, 2009, 8:36 pm
And yet another in a long line of "...if only [fill in name of minority] were smart enough..." posts. And then you people wonder why you don't have more minorities in your party.

Watching the conservative posters here constantly gripe how huge categories of voters are dumber than rocks is like the cartoon of the guy furiously sawing off the branch he is standing on. You know what will come of it and wonder at the same time how someone can miss the obvious.

Guild-Sfire
May 31st, 2009, 8:48 pm
Watching the conservative posters here constantly gripe how huge categories of voters are dumber than rocks is like the cartoon of the guy furiously sawing off the branch he is standing on. You know what will come of it and wonder at the same time how someone can miss the obvious.

Great analogy...

They also remind me of this guy.....

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e200/guild-sfire/angrytypingguy.gif

WhiteHatBobby
June 1st, 2009, 8:52 am
Would you mind sharing the letter, or an excerpt of it?

I have posted some of the information in the Hannity Forum Op-Ed's.

At the 2001 Subway 300 NASCAR Nationwide Series race at Talladega Superspeedway, an angry Jimmy Spencer said he "never forgets" in the aftermath of not being helped by his Cup teammate during the race.

Conservatives should "never forget" about what happened to George Walker Bush's Hispanic nominee for the Court of Appeals, Miguel Estrada, when considering to challenge, filibuster, and potentially reject President Obama's nominee to the United States Supreme Court, Sonia Sotomayor. Mr. Estrada, an attorney originally from Honduras who moved to New York as a teenager before making it through an Ivy League education, was nominated to the DC district of the United States Court of Appeals by President Bush in 2001. With requests by leading Democrats such as Patrick Leahy (who was then, and is now again, the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee), the nominations to the Court of Appeals of judicial nominees such as Mr. Estrada, Priscilla Owen, Charles Pickering, Sr, Janice Rogers Brown (Mrs. Brown is black), and John Roberts (now the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court) were continuously blocked as hearings were refused to Bush nominees. It took sixteen months to conduct hearings, and it was not until the next Congressional term in 2003 when the Judiciary Committee sent the nomination to the Senate, 10-9, on a party-line vote. A filibuster ensued, and Mr. Estrada was never given a vote in the Senate for confirmation, falling after unsuccessful cloture attempts.

Orrin Hatch, Utah Republican, the Chairman of the Senate Judicial Committee at the time of the 2003 hearings, warned, "One new obstacle that Hispanics face today is the attempt by some Washington political operatives to smear anyone who would be a positive role model for Hispanics and who might be a constitutionalist rather than a liberal judicial activist, or might be conservative or perish the thought, Republican." Charles Schumer, New York Democrat, said that Mr. Estrada was a "Stealth missile with a nose cone". Democrats feared Mr. Estrada would be the first Hispanic Supreme Court justice.

Upon investigation of the rejection of Mr. Estrada via the filibuster and the Democrats' name-calling, the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund, of which Miss Sotomaior is a member, was found to have participated in the rejection. Many leftist Hispanic groups opposed Mr. Estrada, and the minority in the Senate at the time found another way to reject judges by forming a junta that kept the same rules of judicial appointees established by Sen. (now Vice President) Biden in 1987 with the Robert Bork rejection that gave us judges that have used judicial activism to virtually move our nation's legislative capital to Brussels, Belgium by declaring laws of foreign lands have jurisdiction over laws of the states and the nation.

The seriousness of Miss Sotomayor's nomination is troubling. The decision she made in the Connecticut firefighter case in supporting throwing out results of a test where only white males passed because of racial standards could be explained in simple terms as if it was taking place in an examination at your typical school.

Suppose there are 30 students in a classroom. 20 are white, 10 are minorities. In this test, 18 students pass the test -- with 10 of them having 100's. All 18 are white. No minorities pass the test. The teacher decides that everyone fails the test, and even tells those who aced the test they would receive a failing grade on the test because no minorities passed the test.

Miss Sotomayor would side with the teacher and give failing grades to everyone, and punish the 10 aces, and the eight others who passed the test. It was based on feelings, not facts. Yet the President believes feelings matter more than facts in judicial nominations.

We do not vote for legislators to the House of Commons in the United Kingdom, and we do note vote for legislators to the European Union Parliament. But judges such as Miss Sotomayor and other like-minded judges believe they, not our legislators, have the right to declaring our laws unconstitutional based on what clears Brussels. Justices would declare the European parliaments have the right to make our laws, and our legislators we elected to not have the right to make our laws.

Worse yet, in Reader's Digest over the years, some of her decisions have made the magazine's list of bad judicial decisions over the years.

So if the ruling Democrats try to claim Republicans would be racist in attempting to derail Miss Sotomayor's nomination, we should be like Jimmy Spencer and "never forget" when we "Remember Miguel Estrada" and how Democrats were the racists in derailing his nomination to the United States Court of Appeals eight years ago, along with that of Janice Rogers Brown, a black judge, in California.

Sun
June 3rd, 2009, 10:18 pm
I have posted some of the information in the Hannity Forum Op-Ed's.

At the 2001 Subway 300 NASCAR Nationwide Series race at Talladega Superspeedway, an angry Jimmy Spencer said he "never forgets" in the aftermath of not being helped by his Cup teammate during the race.

Conservatives should "never forget" about what happened to George Walker Bush's Hispanic nominee for the Court of Appeals, Miguel Estrada, when considering to challenge, filibuster, and potentially reject President Obama's nominee to the United States Supreme Court, Sonia Sotomayor. Mr. Estrada, an attorney originally from Honduras who moved to New York as a teenager before making it through an Ivy League education, was nominated to the DC district of the United States Court of Appeals by President Bush in 2001. With requests by leading Democrats such as Patrick Leahy (who was then, and is now again, the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee), the nominations to the Court of Appeals of judicial nominees such as Mr. Estrada, Priscilla Owen, Charles Pickering, Sr, Janice Rogers Brown (Mrs. Brown is black), and John Roberts (now the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court) were continuously blocked as hearings were refused to Bush nominees. It took sixteen months to conduct hearings, and it was not until the next Congressional term in 2003 when the Judiciary Committee sent the nomination to the Senate, 10-9, on a party-line vote. A filibuster ensued, and Mr. Estrada was never given a vote in the Senate for confirmation, falling after unsuccessful cloture attempts.

Orrin Hatch, Utah Republican, the Chairman of the Senate Judicial Committee at the time of the 2003 hearings, warned, "One new obstacle that Hispanics face today is the attempt by some Washington political operatives to smear anyone who would be a positive role model for Hispanics and who might be a constitutionalist rather than a liberal judicial activist, or might be conservative or perish the thought, Republican." Charles Schumer, New York Democrat, said that Mr. Estrada was a "Stealth missile with a nose cone". Democrats feared Mr. Estrada would be the first Hispanic Supreme Court justice.

Upon investigation of the rejection of Mr. Estrada via the filibuster and the Democrats' name-calling, the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund, of which Miss Sotomaior is a member, was found to have participated in the rejection. Many leftist Hispanic groups opposed Mr. Estrada, and the minority in the Senate at the time found another way to reject judges by forming a junta that kept the same rules of judicial appointees established by Sen. (now Vice President) Biden in 1987 with the Robert Bork rejection that gave us judges that have used judicial activism to virtually move our nation's legislative capital to Brussels, Belgium by declaring laws of foreign lands have jurisdiction over laws of the states and the nation.

The seriousness of Miss Sotomayor's nomination is troubling. The decision she made in the Connecticut firefighter case in supporting throwing out results of a test where only white males passed because of racial standards could be explained in simple terms as if it was taking place in an examination at your typical school.

Suppose there are 30 students in a classroom. 20 are white, 10 are minorities. In this test, 18 students pass the test -- with 10 of them having 100's. All 18 are white. No minorities pass the test. The teacher decides that everyone fails the test, and even tells those who aced the test they would receive a failing grade on the test because no minorities passed the test.

Miss Sotomayor would side with the teacher and give failing grades to everyone, and punish the 10 aces, and the eight others who passed the test. It was based on feelings, not facts. Yet the President believes feelings matter more than facts in judicial nominations.

We do not vote for legislators to the House of Commons in the United Kingdom, and we do note vote for legislators to the European Union Parliament. But judges such as Miss Sotomayor and other like-minded judges believe they, not our legislators, have the right to declaring our laws unconstitutional based on what clears Brussels. Justices would declare the European parliaments have the right to make our laws, and our legislators we elected to not have the right to make our laws.

Worse yet, in Reader's Digest over the years, some of her decisions have made the magazine's list of bad judicial decisions over the years.

So if the ruling Democrats try to claim Republicans would be racist in attempting to derail Miss Sotomayor's nomination, we should be like Jimmy Spencer and "never forget" when we "Remember Miguel Estrada" and how Democrats were the racists in derailing his nomination to the United States Court of Appeals eight years ago, along with that of Janice Rogers Brown, a black judge, in California.

EXCELLENT!

We can all use this as a resource, and thank you!

BrittleBullet
June 4th, 2009, 9:28 pm
I'm Hispanic.
Based on my experience, I doubt Hispanic really give a **** about Estrada.

BrittleBullet
June 4th, 2009, 9:31 pm
...liberals are scumbags. when will hispanics and other minorities wake up and realize the dems do nothing but exploit them.

Right...
If only minorities would stop being so ignorant of their Democratic overlords' misdeeds and exploitation and vote Republican instead....:rolleyes:

Mohawk5
June 4th, 2009, 9:38 pm
Hypocrites! Every last one of them!

Sun
June 7th, 2009, 1:07 pm
Hypocrites! Every last one of them!

Yup. Many minority groups PRETEND to help minorities, but it is a smokescreen for LIBERALISM (that's why they don't help great people like Estrada, Clarence Thomas, et al). The sooner minorities realize this, the better it will be for them and our country.