Woman FORCED to take DOWN American Flag...It's OFFENSIVE??

[roger teekell]

This is just INCREDIBLE!!

A Woman who's ENTIRE family has risked their lives for our FREEDOM is DENIED said FREEDOM....

WOW!

http://needsofthemany.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/woman-forced-to-take-down-offensive-american-flag-for-memorial-day/

When McLucas came to work Friday, her boss told her another supervisor had found her flag offensive. “I was just totally speechless. I was like, ‘You’re kidding me,’” McLucas said.

McLucas’ husband and sons are former military men. Her daughter is currently serving in Iraq as a combat medic.

Stifling a cry, McLucas said, “I just wonder if all those young men and women over there are really doing this for nothing.”

[ThrowCop]

Then, late Wednesday morning, Kindred posted on its website a statement about the incident. It reads, in part: "The disagreement was over the size of the flag and not what it symbolized. We have invited the employee to put the flag back up."http://cbs11tv.com/local/patriotism.at.office.2.1020415.html

[WorldWatcher]

http://cbs11tv.com/local/patriotism.at.office.2.1020415.html



Their hospital their rules, but public pressure seems to have resolved the situation.



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[smyrna]

sounds like the hospital is run by a majority vote...it just took a while to total ALL the votes:D

[ThrowCop]

yeah, likely public pressure caused them to change their tune, but at least they got it right, IMO.

[FidelisAdMortem]

Some african immigrant complained about it.

This country is doomed.

[roger teekell]

Some african immigrant complained about it.

This country is doomed.

Apparently been in America for 14 years...

I don't understand why said immigrant would still be here after 14 years if the Flag offends them so much..

[Gabby]

Their hospital their rules, but public pressure seems to have resolved the situation.


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What is the rule that was broken?

Apparently there is no rule in the company about displaying an American flag.

The problem was that the flag 'offended' some other employees.

The fact that it offended some is very distrubing. What is offensive about the American flag?

Whoever took down the flag actually put it on the floor. That's a gross act of disresepct for our flag.

[Gabby]

Apparently been in America for 14 years...

I don't understand why said immigrant would still be here after 14 years if the Flag offends them so much..

I'd like to hear from this person as to why the flag offended them. It's very diturbing that someone would be here for 14 years and is offended by our flag. It's a statement of how they feel about this country.

[Cav Scout]

This whole story is rediculous...an immigrant? For 14 years? People wonder why have no tolerance these days...

I would have taken flag pole and posted him.

[JudasGoat]

This whole story is rediculous...an immigrant? For 14 years? People wonder why have no tolerance these days...

I would have taken flag pole and posted him.

posted him?

[Dr. Funkenstein]

This is just INCREDIBLE!!

A Woman who's ENTIRE family has risked their lives for our FREEDOM is DENIED said FREEDOM....

WOW!

http://needsofthemany.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/woman-forced-to-take-down-offensive-american-flag-for-memorial-day/

When McLucas came to work Friday, her boss told her another supervisor had found her flag offensive. “I was just totally speechless. I was like, ‘You’re kidding me,’” McLucas said.

McLucas’ husband and sons are former military men. Her daughter is currently serving in Iraq as a combat medic.

Stifling a cry, McLucas said, “I just wonder if all those young men and women over there are really doing this for nothing.”

Without having read the story...if it's a private enterprise, they can allow/disallow whatever they like with regards to personal displays. If it's a public place...well then the "offended party" just needs to shut the hell up.

[notluzn]

Can't display American Flag, don't get Government funding. There is nothing in this world that says the American flag is ever offensive.

[notluzn]

some african immigrant complained about it.

This country is doomed.
+1

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Can't display American Flag, don't get Government funding. There is nothing in this world that says the American flag is ever offensive.
Private enterprises shouldn't get government funding in the first place, so agreed here.

[sgdp]

I'd like to hear from this person as to why the flag offended them. It's very diturbing that someone would be here for 14 years and is offended by our flag. It's a statement of how they feel about this country.

"The disagreement was over the size of the flag and not what it symbolized. We have invited the employee to put the flag back up."

We talked to McLucas Wednesday afternoon. She says the hospital's local CEO called and apologized. And McLucas says the woman did tell her she could put the flag back up, which she has done.

But she says when she was first told the flag had to go, nobody mentioned anything about its size being the root of the problem.

"At no point was I afforded the opportunity -- [no one said,] 'Hey Deb, could you get a one and a half by three and a half and hang it instead of hanging this three by five?'" McLucas said.

That's from the CBS website cited earlier.

[LouC]

That's from the CBS website cited earlier.

The flag was taken down because it "offended" someone, then Kindred tried to cover their ass by claiming it was the size, but now they have allowed the woman to put the same flag back up so I guess size didn't really matter.

Dallas Morning News LINK (http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/yahoolatestnews/stories/052809dnmetkindredflag.21d73b21.html)

May 27th

The Kindred Hospital press release said the company is working to resolve this "isolated incident between two employees."

[BillyBobUSA]

Apparently been in America for 14 years...

I don't understand why said immigrant would still be here after 14 years if the Flag offends them so much..

To quote Queen, maybe its an attack from the inside?

:lol:

[Dr. Funkenstein]

The flag was taken down because it "offended" someone, then Kindred tried to cover their ass by claiming it was the size, but now they have allowed the woman to put the same flag back up so I guess size didn't really matter.

That's what they want us to believe :think:

[BillyBobUSA]

Some african immigrant complained about it.

This country is doomed.


Glad to see some people waking up finally.

But as to the root cause of this doom?

Still no consensus there and thus we continue to slide into the abyss..

[RickRhetoric]

Hopefully the humiliated and tearful Mrs. McLucas has learned a much-needed lesson and will show proper and due respect for the feelings of African-immigrants in the future.

Thank you

[BillyBobUSA]

Hopefully the humiliated and tearful Mrs. McLucas has learned a much-needed lesson and will show proper and due respect for the feelings of African-immigrants in the future.

Thank you


Yeah, who does this American woman think she is? Just because she was born here doesnt give her the right to take pride in our nation.

We are an international community of communities, right?

No room for patriotism any more, only for Global Googoos.

[wayoverthehill]

The flag was taken down because it "offended" someone, then Kindred tried to cover their ass by claiming it was the size, but now they have allowed the woman to put the same flag back up so I guess size didn't really matter.Looks like some furious back-peddling to me.

[LouC]

Looks like some furious back-peddling to me.

Yup.

I would love the media to look into and scrutinize the "offended one", do some digging into why they were offended by the symbol of their host nation, since we do have a fairly good idea why McLucas was displaying her national pride it would only be fair.

Where is the real media?

[pattyk]

Apparently been in America for 14 years...

I don't understand why said immigrant would still be here after 14 years if the Flag offends them so much..

the Kenyan president of the US told the world is was A-O-K to openly hate America and it's symbols of freedom because he does.

wow. I can't believe I said that.:wall:

[cygfighter]

What if the woman complained she's offended for someone being offended as a result of her flag? I certainly would be...

[Broseph]

Stifling a cry, McLucas said, “I just wonder if all those young men and women over there are really doing this for nothing.”

They're doing it for worse than nothing.

They're doing it for a tyrannical government. Not knowingly, though. I don't blame the soldiers, but it's too bad that they're not used against the biggest threat to American liberty, the United States federal government.

This cartoon pretty much sums it up: http://www.livefreenow.org/images/cartoons/cartoon30.gif

[sgdp]

Yup.

I would love the media to look into and scrutinize the "offended one", do some digging into why they were offended by the symbol of their host nation, since we do have a fairly good idea why McLucas was displaying her national pride it would only be fair.

Where is the real media?

So, I saw this just now on Lou Dobbs. (Shepard is off seeing a game or something...so I'm drifting.)

Their reports showed the two employees shared a small space. So I guess the guy felt crowded maybe. I know someone who's claustraphobic to that point.

He wasn't offended by the flag itself, or maybe even not the size. But it seems a dispute took place, and maybe SHE offended him. Maybe she brought up the whole "You're not even American."

[dittoheadAZ]

Then, late Wednesday morning, Kindred posted on its website a statement about the incident. It reads, in part: "The disagreement was over the size of the flag and not what it symbolized. We have invited the employee to put the flag back up."
http://cbs11tv.com/local/patriotism.at.office.2.1020415.html

I don't agree with the CBS article... if it was about the size of the flag, then the woman wouldn't have been told about a coworker finding it "offensive" in the first place.

It sounds like they stepped in it big time, and then did some serious backpedalling.

[Clamp]

So, I saw this just now on Lou Dobbs. (Shepard is off seeing a game or something...so I'm drifting.)

Their reports showed the two employees shared a small space. So I guess the guy felt crowded maybe. I know someone who's claustraphobic to that point.

He wasn't offended by the flag itself, or maybe even not the size. But it seems a dispute took place, and maybe SHE offended him. Maybe she brought up the whole "You're not even American."

Some fine Devillian Advocation... :)

I am surprised that more people aren't offended by the flag and pole being found laying on the floor. To me that is a bigger offense then some idiotic company making the decision to honor an "offensive" complaint such as this.

[sgdp]

Some fine Devillian Advocation... :)

I am surprised that more people aren't offended by the flag and pole being found laying on the floor. To me that is a bigger offense then some idiotic company making the decision to honor an "offensive" complaint such as this.

I just hung up a flag on my wall. I refused to stick it up with pushpins, and actually had to explain that to someone. Luckily, it had massive grommets that seem to suffice.

[Hereintheusa]

Nothing offensive by the flag at your workspace, though people where I work seemed to take offense when last 9-11 I refused to have a huge American flag adorn my work space. I already have a smaller US flag in my workspace which I think is quite enough.

Yes I had the "your an immigrant" thrown in my face which ****ed me off so I raised my flag of St George just slightly higher than the US flag. LOL I know it was petty but the problem was no one I worked with figured out the significance :rolleyes:

[Lima India Bravo]

This is just INCREDIBLE!!

A Woman who's ENTIRE family has risked their lives for our FREEDOM is DENIED said FREEDOM....

WOW!

http://needsofthemany.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/woman-forced-to-take-down-offensive-american-flag-for-memorial-day/

When McLucas came to work Friday, her boss told her another supervisor had found her flag offensive. “I was just totally speechless. I was like, ‘You’re kidding me,’” McLucas said.

McLucas’ husband and sons are former military men. Her daughter is currently serving in Iraq as a combat medic.

Stifling a cry, McLucas said, “I just wonder if all those young men and women over there are really doing this for nothing.”

I find it INCREDIBLE that a STORY on FOX is taken by SOME to be the GOSPEL truth just BECAUSE it SAYS what they WANT to HEAR. By the WAY, the caps LOCK is a wonderful THING, isn't IT?

[Gabby]

I find it INCREDIBLE that a STORY on FOX is taken by SOME to be the GOSPEL truth just BECAUSE it SAYS what they WANT to HEAR. By the WAY, the caps LOCK is a wonderful THING, isn't IT?

The story is on CBS too...

http://cbs11tv.com/local/patriotism.at.office.2.1020415.html

[Lima India Bravo]

The story is on CBS too...

http://cbs11tv.com/local/patriotism.at.office.2.1020415.html

On the local affiliate...not the national network.

[JimGP20]

Private enterprises shouldn't get government funding in the first place, so agreed here.

Tell that to GM and Chrysler.... and Wall Street. :confused:

[CMike11]

Maybe the complaining woman should find a job and housing in Africa instead, if the symbol of this country so offends her...

[CMike11]

the Kenyan president of the US told the world is was A-O-K to openly hate America and it's symbols of freedom because he does.

wow. I can't believe I said that.:wall:

Maybe the Obama will mandat the Kenyan flag being flown in all government institutions from now on.

[cygfighter]

Nothing offensive by the flag at your workspace, though people where I work seemed to take offense when last 9-11 I refused to have a huge American flag adorn my work space. I already have a smaller US flag in my workspace which I think is quite enough.

Yes I had the "your an immigrant" thrown in my face which ****ed me off so I raised my flag of St George just slightly higher than the US flag. LOL I know it was petty but the problem was no one I worked with figured out the significance :rolleyes:

I'd put up an Anarcho-American flag, but that's just me. =\

[Samm]

On the local affiliate...not the national network.

All right Lib... find and post a story from a news agency that says it is false. :rolleyes:

[LouC]

Some fine Devillian Advocation... :)

I am surprised that more people aren't offended by the flag and pole being found laying on the floor. To me that is a bigger offense then some idiotic company making the decision to honor an "offensive" complaint such as this.

Yes that was mentioned and it was also mentioned in another report I read that it was left in her chair?

On the floor would have made my blood boil.

[LouC]

...Yes I had the "your an immigrant" thrown in my face which ****ed me off so I raised my flag of St George just slightly higher than the US flag. LOL I know it was petty but the problem was no one I worked with figured out the significance :rolleyes:

I would have :twisted:

[LouC]

I find it INCREDIBLE that a STORY on FOX is taken by SOME to be the GOSPEL truth just BECAUSE it SAYS what they WANT to HEAR. By the WAY, the caps LOCK is a wonderful THING, isn't IT?

Gee why would Kindred put statements about this on their main website if it didn't happen?

[roger teekell]

I find it INCREDIBLE that a STORY on FOX is taken by SOME to be the GOSPEL truth just BECAUSE it SAYS what they WANT to HEAR. By the WAY, the caps LOCK is a wonderful THING, isn't IT?

WHEN I'M ***ED OFF IT IS!!!:razz:

[roger teekell]

On the local affiliate...not the national network.

So you are saying CBS only lies to it's viewers on a "local level"??

Interesting..:rolleyes:

[Panhead0422]

Some african immigrant complained about it.

This country is doomed.

You are just now figuring this out?

[mgifford]

What is the rule that was broken?

Apparently there is no rule in the company about displaying an American flag.

The problem was that the flag 'offended' some other employees.

The fact that it offended some is very distrubing. What is offensive about the American flag?

Whoever took down the flag actually put it on the floor. That's a gross act of disresepct for our flag.

There's something that I remember from "American battles" years ago, but seems not in many years. When I was a kid watching the "Patriotic War Movies", the "US Flag" was carried into battle by one certain American.

As the attack/battle became hot, it was the duty of that American to keep that Flag flying for America. If that Flag hit the ground (the carrier of it went down) another American and then another kept it from hitting the ground...bur waving proud. Was that just another movie prop or was it true "battle protocol?

I can look it up but I'm sure someone else knows. As many other things that makes America great and more wonderfully far above other countries, many...foreigners have squatted on the very things that made us great.

I could say "why does it happen" but the fact that is does is all tht matters. Many American's blood has been shed while holding up "Old Glory", but I guess that's another thing of the past America...We seem to need a real good "dose" of PC nowadays to keep some people happy.

[sgtmac_46]

http://cbs11tv.com/local/patriotism.at.office.2.1020415.html


That's what i'd have said too. ;)

Bad publicity has a way of modifying a story....

[Hereintheusa]

I would have :twisted:

LOL good