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darknessesedge
May 27th, 2009, 1:28 am
Israeli defense officials say the country's air force has completed a large-scale exercise simulating war on several fronts with enemies that include Iran.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,521177,00.html?test=latestnews

will obama commit forces to assist israel?
or iran?

The director of the CIA was recently sent on a secret mission to Israel to warn its leaders not to launch a surprise attack on Iran without notifying the Obama administration, the Times of London reported on Thursday.

Report: CIA Chief Warned Israel Not to Bomb Iran in Secret Visit
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520263,00.html

Buschb
May 27th, 2009, 1:43 am
I hope I'm wrong....but I feel war with Iran is enviable with Netanyahu
which means us..

That's the last thing we need
But yet we get involved...

US to fully fund Arrow 3 missile system
The US has said it will provide the full funding for the development and production of the Arrow 3 anti-missile system, defense officials told The Jerusalem Post on Wednesday.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1242212426298

hatman
May 27th, 2009, 1:46 am
I hope I'm wrong....but I feel war with Iran is enviable with Netanyahu
which means us..

That's the last thing we need

It would be devastating.

darknessesedge
May 27th, 2009, 1:46 am
I hope I'm wrong....but I feel war with Iran is enviable with Netanyahu
which means us..

That's the last thing we need

if i can find the link..
but I was watching the news and it stated that some iran official, or wannabe official said the war with israel will be won quickly if he was running things.

Buschb
May 27th, 2009, 1:49 am
if i can find the link..
but I was watching the news and it stated that some iran official, or wannabe official said the war with israel will be won quickly if he was running things.

I know
Grand standing...there's an election coming up...

Ninjacorpse
May 27th, 2009, 1:54 am
I hope I'm wrong....but I feel war with Iran is enviable with Netanyahu
which means us..

That's the last thing we need
But yet we get involved...

US to fully fund Arrow 3 missile system
The US has said it will provide the full funding for the development and production of the Arrow 3 anti-missile system, defense officials told The Jerusalem Post on Wednesday.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1242212426298

There are more important foreign policy concerns to deal with, enemy combatants are in emotional distress because of our intelligence community.

Buschb
May 27th, 2009, 1:54 am
There are more important foreign policy concerns to deal with, enemy combatants are in emotional distress because of our intelligence community.

hehe....what's crackin Ninja

AeroEngineer
May 27th, 2009, 1:57 am
I hope I'm wrong....but I feel war with Iran is enviable with Netanyahu
which means us..

That's the last thing we need
But yet we get involved...

US to fully fund Arrow 3 missile system
The US has said it will provide the full funding for the development and production of the Arrow 3 anti-missile system, defense officials told The Jerusalem Post on Wednesday.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1242212426298

:rolleyes:

I love international welfare.

RedStatePaPa
May 27th, 2009, 1:59 am
I wouldn't tell Obama first if I were them.

Buschb
May 27th, 2009, 2:02 am
I wouldn't tell Obama first if I were them.

Impossible

Jagergeist
May 27th, 2009, 2:05 am
I agree that this is just pre election posturing from Ahmadinejad's part. He is stoking the nationalism to get a few more votes. If Israel is dumb enough to attack Israel they will see their air force crushed and wide open to counter attack, if not invasion. Israel would be committing national suicide.

Ninjacorpse
May 27th, 2009, 2:06 am
hehe....what's crackin Ninja

Not a whole heck of a lot, about to go get some left over bbq, apparently Israel is about to slug it out with Iran. I do not care, it is bound to happen it would just be nice if we did not have to pay out the rear for it.

Buschb
May 27th, 2009, 2:12 am
Not a whole heck of a lot, about to go get some left over bbq, apparently Israel is about to slug it out with Iran. I do not care, it is bound to happen it would just be nice if we did not have to pay out the rear for it.

Oh...We are paying for it?...:))
enjoy your Q...my friend....

Ninjacorpse
May 27th, 2009, 2:23 am
Oh...We are paying for it?...:))
enjoy your Q...my friend....

Paying, hell, paid is probably more accurate :razz:

Ingator
May 27th, 2009, 2:27 am
I agree that this is just pre election posturing from Ahmadinejad's part. He is stoking the nationalism to get a few more votes. If Israel is dumb enough to attack Israel they will see their air force crushed and wide open to counter attack, if not invasion. Israel would be committing national suicide.

Israel would be committing national suicide if they don't act.

Buschb
May 27th, 2009, 2:31 am
Israel would be committing national suicide if they don't act.

Do It...Do It Now...

not so much...No one is going to mess with Israel..
They are not in grave danger...


that act will plunge/tip a very fragile everything

ValricoKate
May 27th, 2009, 2:33 am
Israeli defense officials say the country's air force has completed a large-scale exercise simulating war on several fronts with enemies that include Iran.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,521177,00.html?test=latestnews

will obama commit forces to assist israel?
or iran?

The director of the CIA was recently sent on a secret mission to Israel to warn its leaders not to launch a surprise attack on Iran without notifying the Obama administration, the Times of London reported on Thursday.

Report: CIA Chief Warned Israel Not to Bomb Iran in Secret Visit
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520263,00.html

Couple ^ that story with V this one:
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE54P5T320090526 (story indicating Obama to meet w/ the Saudis before his Cairo speech)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Barack Obama will meet Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah in Riyadh next week to seek his support over the nuclear standoff with Iran and reviving the Israeli-Palestinian peace process.

Obama will visit Riyadh on June 3 in a surprise addition to his scheduled three-day trip to Egypt, Germany and France, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said on Tuesday. ...article continues

and it looks like things are heating up.

hatman
May 27th, 2009, 2:34 am
Israel would be committing national suicide if they don't act.

Iran would be committing suicide if they ever used nuclear weapons.
I believe they know it (and have been told so).
Nukes are no longer military weapons; they're political weapons.
Of course that doesn't apply to rogue groups, but I believe we can trace it back to the state responsible.

Buschb
May 27th, 2009, 2:36 am
Do we really want beef...

When our dollar is collapsing
We cannot even get our borders under control
Unemployment is going to get worse
Cali is folding
GM is now...well..Ours
The commercial real estate market is going to tank
etc,etc,

I don't

Ingator
May 27th, 2009, 2:39 am
Iran would be committing suicide if they ever used nuclear weapons.
I believe they know it (and have been told so).
Nukes are no longer military weapons; they're political weapons.
Of course that doesn't apply to rogue groups, but I believe we can trace it back to the state responsible.

You could be correct but I'm not convinced. How many times in history has a nation done something irrational.
I haven't heard much about it lately but a few years ago, it seemed Iran was wanting to cause a huge flare up, to bring back the 12th Iman.

Cletus Wilbury
May 27th, 2009, 2:42 am
How is Israel going to attack Iran?

http://encarta.msn.com/map_701515350/persian_gulf.html

Fly through Iraq?

This guy answers:
How Would Israel Strike Iran? (http://thedignifiedrant.blogspot.com/2009/04/how-would-israel-strike-iran.html)

...
Aircraft will fly through Turkey and Saudi Arabia to reach Iran. ...


Krauthammer (http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=76831&sectionid=351020104)


"The Israelis would not attack (Iran) over Iraq. The way to go is through Turkey…When Israel attacked the reactor in Syria, it went up the Mediterranean and through Turkish air space," Hurriyet quoted Krauthammer as saying.

I would point out to Charles there has been a regime change in Turkey since then.


Shifting Alliances: The Israel-Turkey-Syria Triangle (http://enduringamerica.com/2009/05/15/wobbling-alliances-the-israel-turkey-syria-triangle/)

May 15, 2009

Two weeks ago, Turkey and Syria held, for the first time in history, joint military drills. The exercises were a clear sign of the increasingly close ties between the two states as they co-operate on wider agendas. At the same time, they raise the question: what happens to other relationship, notably the long-standing ties between Ankara and Tel Aviv? ...

hatman
May 27th, 2009, 2:43 am
You could be correct but I'm not convinced. How many times in history has a nation done something irrational.
I haven't heard much about it lately but a few years ago, it seemed Iran was wanting to cause a huge flare up, to bring back the 12th Iman.

There are some crazies in charge of countries out there.
Has any country since August 9, 1945 done something irrational enough to employ nukes against them?
I truly believe "states" no better.
Not so much for rogues, and that's the real threat.

2Parties1GlobalistGoal
May 27th, 2009, 2:43 am
Who's winning in the simulation?

Ingator
May 27th, 2009, 2:58 am
Who's winning in the simulation?

last word it was still simulating the dialog phase.

Ingator
May 27th, 2009, 3:00 am
and since a computer can come up with eons and eons of words and phrases, who knows how long it could go on.

Poisonshady313
May 27th, 2009, 3:07 am
The director of the CIA was recently sent on a secret mission to Israel to warn its leaders not to launch a surprise attack on Iran without notifying the Obama administration, the Times of London reported on Thursday.

Report: CIA Chief Warned Israel Not to Bomb Iran in Secret Visit
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520263,00.html

Helluva secret, eh?

Rockominal
May 27th, 2009, 3:42 am
Iran would be committing suicide if they ever used nuclear weapons.
I believe they know it (and have been told so).
Nukes are no longer military weapons; they're political weapons.
Of course that doesn't apply to rogue groups, but I believe we can trace it back to the state responsible.

Iran wouldn't do it that way in the first place. They would find their delivery boys from any country; Yemen, Afghanistan, wherever, and try to keep any traceable background from Iranian govt. support, who would deliver the weapon. Much the same way as they support terrorists now. Iran wouldn't blatantly launch a delivery vehicle with a nuclear weapon from their own country. Their supply and work on the material still needs to be stopped.

hatman
May 27th, 2009, 4:14 am
Iran wouldn't do it that way in the first place. They would find their delivery boys from any country; Yemen, Afghanistan, wherever, and try to keep any traceable background from Iranian govt. support, who would deliver the weapon. Much the same way as they support terrorists now. Iran wouldn't blatantly launch a delivery vehicle with a nuclear weapon from their own country. Their supply and work on the material still needs to be stopped.

I'm good with stopping it. I just don't know how that's done realistically.
I may be delusional, but I have to think there's a footprint that would trace back to the host state. If so, that state would know what's in it for them should they pass on nukes.

TRIMS713
May 27th, 2009, 6:53 am
I hope I'm wrong....but I feel war with Iran is enviable with Netanyahu
which means us..

That's the last thing we need
But yet we get involved...

US to fully fund Arrow 3 missile system
The US has said it will provide the full funding for the development and production of the Arrow 3 anti-missile system, defense officials told The Jerusalem Post on Wednesday.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1242212426298

Yep---not good,not good at all.--- All the signs point to that and the news seems to be getting worse with each passing day.-----And yes,the negative effects will definitely be felt in this country, how negative is anyone's guess!

mgifford
May 27th, 2009, 7:16 am
Is it possible that "Armageddon" is close by?

TRIMS713
May 27th, 2009, 9:12 am
Is it possible that "Armageddon" is close by?

I don't know but I'm trying to imagine good outcomes to problems we're facing around the world and I just don't see any. I remember Newt Gingrich stating a while back that WW3 has already started.---- If anyone can find a link to those statements,please post them.

A_K_
May 27th, 2009, 9:40 am
Iran would be committing suicide if they ever used nuclear weapons.
I believe they know it (and have been told so).
Nukes are no longer military weapons; they're political weapons.
Of course that doesn't apply to rogue groups, but I believe we can trace it back to the state responsible.
or at least blame the next country we want regime change in and 20 years later when the truth comes out it won't matter :)

mgifford
May 27th, 2009, 9:48 am
I don't know but I'm trying to imagine good outcomes to problems we're facing around the world and I just don't see any. I remember Newt Gingrich stating a while back that WW3 has already started.---- If anyone can find a link to those statements,please post them.

I think we today are very unaware of the danger. However, we can always tell the newest "American Idol". Bad HUH?

Ingator
May 27th, 2009, 9:53 am
I think we today are very unaware of the danger. However, we can always tell the newest "American Idol". Bad HUH?


Phooey, wars are a thing of the past. It took us thousands of years but now were so much more advanced than those ancient primitives.
/sarcasm off

Jags~Beach
May 27th, 2009, 10:03 am
Israeli defense officials say the country's air force has completed a large-scale exercise simulating war on several fronts with enemies that include Iran.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,...est=latestnews

Iran is only one piece of the puzzle, the excersize is based on a war coming at Israel from several fronts.

Considering they are surrounded by Muslims, and seeing Iran's navy flexing its arm along with its nuclear arms race, add to that Sympathy for Palestine at an all time high, especially with the Pope preaching from the fence separating them, and finally and foremost America emerging as a formidle opponent to Israel, if there was ever a time for an excersize it is now, and this excersize is not just a measure against the threat from Iran but the entire world...

What we are seeing here is nothing short of an excersize for the prophetical battle of Armageddon.

TRIMS713
May 27th, 2009, 10:26 am
Iran would be committing suicide if they ever used nuclear weapons.
I believe they know it (and have been told so).
Nukes are no longer military weapons; they're political weapons.
Of course that doesn't apply to rogue groups, but I believe we can trace it back to the state responsible.

Dick Morris in a May 24th column in Newsmax titled "The Death of Israel" stated a regime who has the same mentality as suicide bombers would most definitely use some type of nuclear weappns but won't do it directly,they'd find a way to have rogue groups do it and then claim they weren't responsible. The fact that it can be traced back to them won't matter, they believe the "Mahdi in the well" will return and signal the end of the world. They believe paradise is right around the corner for all muslims but the Jews must die for that to happen.

Morris also stated the Obama administration has already accepted the fact that Iran will get nukes and has told Isreal to live with that fact.

The only way out in my view is if Israel decides to give up their country for the sake of world peace, move out and have the US and Europe accept their citizens. However, even if they did that, it probably would embolden Islamic extremism all the more at this point in time.-------WAR looks to be ineviitable!

Ex_Spy_Guy
May 27th, 2009, 10:29 am
I hope I'm wrong....but I feel war with Iran is enviable with Netanyahu
which means us..

That's the last thing we need
But yet we get involved...

US to fully fund Arrow 3 missile system
The US has said it will provide the full funding for the development and production of the Arrow 3 anti-missile system, defense officials told The Jerusalem Post on Wednesday.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1242212426298

whats wrong with anti missile defense?

Rockominal
May 28th, 2009, 5:13 am
I think we today are very unaware of the danger. However, we can always tell the newest "American Idol". Bad HUH?

Indeed, and what is also sad is the fact that the United States of America and everything it stands for is under attack right now by the current administration. That's not even the sad part because America has achieved historic victories in the past against ALL odds when we knew the face of the enemy. The sad part is the fact that most Americans are, to use your words: "very unaware of the danger."

johnjay1788
May 28th, 2009, 7:31 am
Israeli defense officials say the country's air force has completed a large-scale exercise simulating war on several fronts with enemies that include Iran.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,521177,00.html?test=latestnews

will obama commit forces to assist israel?
or iran?

The director of the CIA was recently sent on a secret mission to Israel to warn its leaders not to launch a surprise attack on Iran without notifying the Obama administration, the Times of London reported on Thursday.

Report: CIA Chief Warned Israel Not to Bomb Iran in Secret Visit
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520263,00.html

If Israel bombs Iran (which they have good cause to do so)... I believe Obama is so ball-less that he might not help Israel. Expect only harsh speeches displayed via teleprompter(s). If that were to happen I personally would seriously try to figure out a way to enroll in Israel's military.

mgifford
May 28th, 2009, 7:33 am
Indeed, and what is also sad is the fact that the United States of America and everything it stands for is under attack right now by the current administration. That's not even the sad part because America has achieved historic victories in the past against ALL odds when we knew the face of the enemy. The sad part is the fact that most Americans are, to use your words: "very unaware of the danger."

yes! See this video! http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2009/05...commencem.html