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notluzn
May 22nd, 2009, 4:51 pm
I got my tickets for tomorrows show and I've heard that it's even better than ever. I'm thinking that the reason why things are different is because they changed the past. I'm also glad that James Cameron helped out.

The only issue I do have with this movie is that they are taking the idea of Transformers and using it in this movie.

Buffalo
May 22nd, 2009, 4:54 pm
Gonna try to check it out this weekend, but I've heard some bad things so far. Not getting great early reviews. We'll see.

notluzn
May 22nd, 2009, 5:09 pm
Gonna try to check it out this weekend, but I've heard some bad things so far. Not getting great early reviews. We'll see.

Good movies always get bad reviews from the butt heads. I've also heard it's bad ass.

BillyBobUSA
May 22nd, 2009, 7:18 pm
It was good and has an obvious sequel.

ImNewHere
May 23rd, 2009, 12:39 am
The only issue I do have with this movie is that they are taking the idea of Transformers and using it in this movie.

More lies from Hollywood then. Another Camaro as a hero?

Paleeazze! That enough is reason to skip this piece of trash. :razz:

notluzn
May 23rd, 2009, 12:43 am
More lies from Hollywood then. Another Camaro as a hero?

Paleeazze! That enough is reason to skip this piece of trash. :razz: I bet you're on the waiting list for the new Camaro. :mrgreen: I seen the new mustang as well but it was on the back of a Tow Truck. :)

ImNewHere
May 23rd, 2009, 12:45 am
I bet you're on the waiting list for the new Camaro. :mrgreen: I seen the new mustang as well but it was on the back of a Tow Truck. :)

With this economy, I'm sticking with the Mustang for a while longer. And will avoid the car company that's not about to declare bankruptcy. But The new 'Stangs will be there when I'm ready to upgrade my current ride.

Sorry about your car co. though. :razz:

notluzn
May 24th, 2009, 11:27 am
Went and Loved it. A lot of info was handed to us and made sense. They left it to another final movie though. Very Crowded theater. Still the giant terminator makes me think Transformers.

Now I'm waiting for Transformers.

newyorkjetsfan
May 24th, 2009, 8:32 pm
Terminator: Salvation came in second in the box office with $43 million behind the $53 million by Night at the Museum 2. The four-day total of T4 was $56 million.

ressurectedUltraSaiyanUSA
May 25th, 2009, 8:15 am
a decent entry into the Terminator myth although I was hoping it couldve delivered something more being the first movie of a new trilogy. this movie had the potential to be way, way better. the first scenes of the movie I was at the edge of my seat & anticipated something really great in the works. the resistance raid on Skynet's communications facility at the beginning had some elements of Saving Private Ryan cinematography-wise. couldn't help to think what this scene wouldve been like had the movie been rated R. but, as the movie rolled along, the plot and storyline gradually fell flat.

but there were also times it didn't feel like a Terminator movie. whatever happened to the original theme???

still, overall, it was good & is something i'd spend money on for the DVD.

I'm now eagerly awaitingTransformers 2...

snagswolf
May 25th, 2009, 8:36 am
Loved it. I thought it fit in well with the franchise. As for there being a sequel, the director has announced this is the first of a trilogy with future John Connor.

My biggest complaint is that they revealed a major plot point in the trailer.

Pretty much non-stop action, and a surprise 'guest star' makes an appearance that had me smiling. And when John Connor commandeered the terminator-cycle, I had flashbacks to the BatCycle from last summer.

Not a big fan of the kid who played Kyle Reese, but he's in two summer blockbusters (playing Chekov in Star Trek), so I'm impressed.

Greyclouds
May 25th, 2009, 9:52 am
I loved the original Terminator, and thought that Terminator 2 was easily one of the greatest action movies ever made (the anguish of John and Sarah Connor at the end of the film showed REAL substance!). Terminator 3 was... ok... with a great attention to detail with some of the action scenes (the hearse actually sounds like it should after that much damage!), but I still couldn't get over the big plot hole in the movie.

"Gee, Arnold, what are you doing here? I thought we destroyed Skynet back then!"
"Judgment day is inevitable."
"Oh... well, in that case, why is it still called Skynet and why are all the terminators built on the same designs?"
"Judgment day is inevitable."
"But that makes no sense... if it's inevitable wouldn't there be an equal likelihood of different names, at least?"
"Judgment day is inevitable."


I'm a bit hesitant to see this movie... I'll still eventually go, but I'm not sure if I'd like it...

blackcatrun
May 25th, 2009, 11:58 am
I loved the original Terminator, and thought that Terminator 2 was easily one of the greatest action movies ever made (the anguish of John and Sarah Connor at the end of the film showed REAL substance!). Terminator 3 was... ok... with a great attention to detail with some of the action scenes (the hearse actually sounds like it should after that much damage!), but I still couldn't get over the big plot hole in the movie.

"Gee, Arnold, what are you doing here? I thought we destroyed Skynet back then!"
"Judgment day is inevitable."
"Oh... well, in that case, why is it still called Skynet and why are all the terminators built on the same designs?"
"Judgment day is inevitable."
"But that makes no sense... if it's inevitable wouldn't there be an equal likelihood of different names, at least?"
"Judgment day is inevitable."


I'm a bit hesitant to see this movie... I'll still eventually go, but I'm not sure if I'd like it...

It had me wondering too...why did skynet survive?
From what I gathered in watching the movie Skynets key came from a CPU they distroyed in the terminator 2 to change the future.
However the military already had the chips designs for a number of years and was producing the CPU for a new computer controled military responce system.

Howeve the answer as to what the programing was to trigger the nuclear exchange came in the terminator three judgement day as the female terminator tapped into the net and spread the programing world wide in effect taking over all operation systems.

Greyclouds
May 25th, 2009, 12:40 pm
It had me wondering too...why did skynet survive?
From what I gathered in watching the movie Skynets key came from a CPU they distroyed in the terminator 2 to change the future.
However the military already had the chips designs for a number of years and was producing the CPU for a new computer controled military responce system.

That is possible, but still improbable.

I mean, the chipset in the Terminator probably didn't have the entire code for skynet, right?

Also, the program would be limited by the mechanical means of making the computer self-aware. In T-3, skynet appears to be more of a computer "worm" that results in a major bot-farm.


Howeve the answer as to what the programing was to trigger the nuclear exchange came in the terminator three judgement day as the female terminator tapped into the net and spread the programing world wide in effect taking over all operation systems.

Another probability, though the computers were showing glitches before the female terminator started doing her thing.

Again, I think they should have made the script a bit less "holey," in this regard.

ressurectedUltraSaiyanUSA
May 25th, 2009, 1:59 pm
based on the Terminator mythos, Skynet attacked humans as a means of self-defense, self-preservation and survival as it developed sentience.

the TX from Terminator 3, although may have aided in spreading a computer virus, was only there to hunt down the leadership of the human resistance, i.e. John Connor and his wife Kate Brewster. at the point of Terminator 3, the theory went was that the TX introduced a virus so that it would give the military the rationale to fully activate Skynet, which at this point had already become sentient.

at any rate, i wish this was the opening scene for Terminator Salvation and again shouldve been Rated R. this 6-minute Youtube clip is just perfect for an opening scene in Terminator Salvation. i learned more about the blair williams character in this 6-minute Machinima clip than from the overall movie itself. the clip just had the essence, depth, substance, emotion, gravity, perfect monologue, and horror that imho is just perfect for a Terminator movie, especially the Future War Trilogy. whoever team created this 6-minute clip should've been in the actualy movie-making process:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbF76xE8Q0Y&feature=PlayList&p=C672C9BC2932240D&index=1

skid vicious
May 25th, 2009, 4:56 pm
just got back from terminator. It was ok. I wasn't blown away by anything in it though. FX were good, story was good. yet somehow it lacked the holy s***, that was cool factor. probably the last movie i'll see in a theater too. I never remembered the seats being designed by the marquis de sade. maybe i'm just getting old.


SPOILER ALERT

What was wrong with this movie. These things are the types of logical things that are glaringly obvious in most movies that most people choose to ignore.

1) If they capture kyle reese, why not just kill him and john connor would cease to exist.
2) Final detonation of skynet is nuclear, yet the helicopter seemingly flies 200 yds away and is unaffected by either the EMP, the 700 MPH shockwave, of the 3,000*F heat.
3) A heart transplant in a mobile aid station? come on....

Other things that annoyed me.
the people next to me that had to comment on every explosion
their girlfriends always saying "awwwww" when the little girl did something cute. that shyte gets old real quick.
$11 per ticket when blockbuster is $5 and netflix is $8 per month.

I dunno, maybe i'm just full of **** and vinegar and don't give a f*** anymore. There are better things that i can be doing with my time and money than sitting next to barely pubescent teenagers and filling the already stuffed coffers of elitist hollywood d-bags.

Broseph
May 25th, 2009, 5:44 pm
SPOILER ALERT

What was wrong with this movie. These things are the types of logical things that are glaringly obvious in most movies that most people choose to ignore.

1) If they capture kyle reese, why not just kill him and john connor would cease to exist.
2) Final detonation of skynet is nuclear, yet the helicopter seemingly flies 200 yds away and is unaffected by either the EMP, the 700 MPH shockwave, of the 3,000*F heat.
3) A heart transplant in a mobile aid station? come on....


Simple answer. It's 2018, dude. Everything will be possible by then.

snagswolf
May 25th, 2009, 5:56 pm
*** spoilers ***

1) If they capture kyle reese, why not just kill him and john connor would cease to exist.
2) Final detonation of skynet is nuclear, yet the helicopter seemingly flies 200 yds away and is unaffected by either the EMP, the 700 MPH shockwave, of the 3,000*F heat.
3) A heart transplant in a mobile aid station? come on....
I agree with all of those. Especially the nuclear explosion one. Connor was flat on his back in the helicoper, and would have had no idea how close Skynet Central was. You would think someone would have grabbed the remote control and said, "Whoa, we're a little too close right now."

And not really a plot point, but what's the deal with Jane Alexander in a pretty much meaningless role? I was expecting her to have a bigger part in things. Perhaps setting up for the sequels?

I know that Sarah Connor was claimed to be dead in T3, but is it possible she survived somehow, and this is her? John Conner never has a face-to-face with her in this film, but she does see him, and the director went out of his way to show her expression as she saw him.

CaptainPike
May 25th, 2009, 7:47 pm
You can't have a terminator movie with Ahhhhnold. He sucks as a governor but he was good in the terminator movies.

CaptainPike
May 25th, 2009, 8:32 pm
You can't have a terminator movie with Ahhhhnold. He sucks as a governor but he was good in the terminator movies.

Without Arnold. That's what I meant.

snagswolf
May 25th, 2009, 11:23 pm
You can't have a terminator movie with Ahhhhnold. He sucks as a governor but he was good in the terminator movies.
Have you seen the new movie?

CaptainPike
May 25th, 2009, 11:38 pm
Have you seen the new movie?

Nah. I can't afford to see movies. I might get it on on demand later on.

BillyBobUSA
May 25th, 2009, 11:54 pm
Terminator: Salvation came in second in the box office with $43 million behind the $53 million by Night at the Museum 2. The four-day total of T4 was $56 million.


Family oriented movies regularly outperform all other categories at the box office.

Hence the observable Truth that Hollyweird does NOT make its degenerate crap in order to make more ticket sales.

JudasGoat
May 26th, 2009, 10:42 am
*** spoilers ***


I agree with all of those. Especially the nuclear explosion one. Connor was flat on his back in the helicoper, and would have had no idea how close Skynet Central was. You would think someone would have grabbed the remote control and said, "Whoa, we're a little too close right now."

And not really a plot point, but what's the deal with Jane Alexander in a pretty much meaningless role? I was expecting her to have a bigger part in things. Perhaps setting up for the sequels?

I know that Sarah Connor was claimed to be dead in T3, but is it possible she survived somehow, and this is her? John Conner never has a face-to-face with her in this film, but she does see him, and the director went out of his way to show her expression as she saw him.


******spoilers*******



yeah, the helicopter/explosion and the heart surgery angle were ridiculous. Other than that, I didn't have a ton of problems with this movie. I really liked the respectful nods to the predecessors. I didn't find them campy or lame at all. Liked the marcus character but really wish they hadn't outed that he was a terminator in the trailers. That was a bad move.
1 thing I did notice; almost everywhere they went, there were small, random fires burning. I just find that odd...Who lights this debris? Why does it not burn out? the world may never know.
I too am ready to see tran 2 but the locales made me want to boot up fallout 3 and take a run through that again. They are very similar.

Dr. Funkenstein
May 26th, 2009, 10:46 am
I haven't seen the other three, and don't feel a big urge to see this one either.

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
May 26th, 2009, 11:49 am
I was disappointed. I was hoping for more story.

USAF Medic
May 26th, 2009, 3:03 pm
Great special effects but then what movies don't these days?
Other than that it was...OK

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
May 26th, 2009, 3:31 pm
Great special effects but then what movies don't these days?
Other than that it was...OK

Agreed.

Star Trek was a MUCH more fun experience. I'm actually excited about the next one in that line.

USAF Medic
May 26th, 2009, 5:00 pm
Agreed.

Star Trek was a MUCH more fun experience. I'm actually excited about the next one in that line.

Agreed.
As long as I remember that the NEW ST has nothing to do with any exisiting ST cannon.
But I think that's what the producers where going for.

The only thing I can deduce from the terminator series is that SKYNET is totaly inept at everything but launching nuclear missiles.

newyorkjetsfan
June 1st, 2009, 3:16 am
I finally saw Terminator: Salvation, and it was a decent action film. I felt that it was a decent start of The Terminator franchise. I thought Christian Bale was solid as John Conner. The special effects were wonderful as well as the battle and fight scenes.

I only wish that the film have more of the WOW factor like the previous Terminator films. It could have use some more punch.

I did had a good time watching the film and recommend it for a matinee fare.

I give this film three stars out of four.