Any Conservative Vegetarians Out There?

[pdmike]

This thread is for conservatives only. And the question is . . . are any of you now, or have any of you ever been . . . a vegetarian?

Just curious. I'm in a little debate with an (idiot) friend of mine who is sure that there are "just as many conservative vegetarians as there are liberal vegetarians." I don't think so. In fact, I think we will be hard pressed to find ANY conservatives who will cop to being vegetarian.

If I'm wrong, prove me wrong. Be honest, now . . .

[Ballygrl]

This thread is for conservatives only. And the question is . . . are any of you now, or have any of you ever been . . . a vegetarian?

Just curious. I'm in a little debate with an (idiot) friend of mine who is sure that there are "just as many conservative vegetarians as there are liberal vegetarians." I don't think so. In fact, I think we will be hard pressed to find ANY conservatives who will cop to being vegetarian.

If I'm wrong, prove me wrong. Be honest, now . . .

I've tried many times to lead the vegetarian lifestyle since I was a member of PETA for years (not a member anymore) and I felt I was being hypocritical eating meat, but I love meat and chicken too much that it's impossible to give up, so I call myself a hypocrite. I don't eat veal though, I gave that up after seeing how they treat the calf.

[sironin]

If fiscal conservatives count, I was raised as a vegetarian by my Green party dad and still am a vegetarian today. This probably doesn't really help your friend's argument, so I'll go on to add that probably quite a few people switch to being vegetarians after watching one of those gross-out meat manufacturing videos, at least for as long as they remember it anyway.

[JimGP20]

Mike..... I'm a conservative and I eat meat. That's the way it should be. :cool:

[SFC(R)L]

no

People Eating Tasty Animals

[pdmike]

Mike..... I'm a conservative and I eat meat. That's the way it should be. :cool:

:)):)):))

You always seem to have the ability to make me laugh. Good one.

[pdmike]

I've tried many times to lead the vegetarian lifestyle since I was a member of PETA for years (not a member anymore) and I felt I was being hypocritical eating meat, but I love meat and chicken too much that it's impossible to give up, so I call myself a hypocrite. I don't eat veal though, I gave that up after seeing how they treat the calf.

I believe if you were ever a member of PETA, you are barred from membership in the Republican Party.

I heard that on Rush Limbaugh. ;)

[pattyk]

I'm not a big meat eater. but since I'm evil and like fish and chicken, guess I'm not a vegetarian.

I'm eating some delish vegetarian cabbage soup right now!

[MrShotShot]

Since when is someone's diet a political issue?

[Marleysdaddy]

My cousin is a staunch conservative, was a College Republican, is a vegan, and is a member of PETA.

[countmein]

I am not a vegetarian, but a lot of my family members are and they are very conservative. I have said it before, my mom and dad and both sisters are. My sister is actually a vegan (diet only), no meat, no meat by-products, no dairy of any kind, no refined sugar or flour. She started eating this way when she was diagnosed with breast cancer 6 years ago. She had no medical treatment, just a very strict diet and exercise, and the cancer is gone. My mom stays on the diet for the most part. My dad and other sister do eat cheese here and there as a treat, but no meat, although my dad does enjoy a deviled egg now and again.

[Residential Bob]

My brother is the only conservative and vegetarian I've ever known.

I suspect liberals tend to be vegetarian much more than conservatives do. It's not because conservatives believe we must eat meat; it's because liberals believe we must not.

[Ballygrl]

I believe if you were ever a member of PETA, you are barred from membership in the Republican Party.

I heard that on Rush Limbaugh. ;)

They weren't as nutty when I belonged to them, now I choose to give to sane animal charities. :)

[khigh]

I'm a vegetarian and a conservative/leaning libertarian. It's not really a PETA thing for me as more of a religious decision. I started with no beef (didn't like it anyways), then no live bearing animals, and now I don't eat anything that breathes. I do slip and have fish every once in awhile.

[ThrowCop]

before khigh posted I was already thinking that there are quite a few American Hindus who are vegetarian and conservative even though they tend liberal.

[gdoane]

I figure that when I'm eating meat that I'm really eating vegetables indirectly. After all, cows eat grass and I eat cows, so I'm really eating grass when I have a nice New York Strip.

I remember growing up that I'd always hear "YOU ARE WHAT YOU EAT!" so since I eat herbivores I must be a vegetarian too.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

i figure that when i'm eating meat that i'm really eating vegetables indirectly. After all, cows eat grass and i eat cows, so i'm really eating grass when i have a nice new york strip.

I remember growing up that i'd always hear "you are what you eat!" so since i eat herbivores i must be a vegetarian too.


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[FoxGranadaChuck]

I personally am a lacto-ovo-vegetarian. That's a fancy way of saying that I am a vegetarian who eats eggs and milk products. I had a vegan ask me why I don't become like them; my simple reply was that I like my eggs and cheese way too much to become a vegan. Why am I vegetarian? Because of cholesterol and triglyceride issues, especially on my Mom's side of the family. Virtually everyone on my Mom's side of the family has to take synthroid every day.

Politically, I am a conservative with very strong libertarian leanings, especially when it comes to free speech and economic liberty. I am a member of both the Hannity Conservatives and the Hannity Libertarians.

[khigh]

before khigh posted I was already thinking that there are quite a few American Hindus who are vegetarian and conservative even though they tend liberal.

Most of the people I go to temple with are first or second generation immigrants. They are all very conservative at least socially and in their family life. Almost all of them are vegetarians or at least do not eat beef. I think when looking at Hindus that conservatism is a cultural thing. India herself is a conservative nation.

It's hard to adhere to the Rig Veda and not be conservative. No sex before marriage, no abortions, little to no divorce (strict rules on divorce), no sodomy, love everyone as you love yourself, against gay marriage, etc.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

For the record, I can understand why some people become vegans. The gentleman to whom I referred in the previous posting had quite a history of heart disease in his family. He told me that his father died of a heart attack when he was 45 years old.

So, yes, I think a vegetarian diet makes good sense.....

[khigh]

For the record, I can understand why some people become vegans. The gentleman to whom I referred in the previous posting had quite a history of heart disease in his family. He told me that his father died of a heart attack when he was 45 years old.

So, yes, I think a vegetarian diet makes good sense.....

My husband is a vegetarian for that reason. He was told when he was 18 that his blood pressure was so high that if he quit exercising, he would die of a heart attack by the time he was 40. It's genetic, but he hasn't taken any medication because a vegetarian diet and Army PT has pretty much fixed his blood pressure and cholesterol.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

My husband is a vegetarian for that reason. He was told when he was 18 that his blood pressure was so high that if he quit exercising, he would die of a heart attack by the time he was 40. It's genetic, but he hasn't taken any medication because a vegetarian diet and Army PT has pretty much fixed his blood pressure and cholesterol.


I am a vegetarian myself because, in addition to the aforementioned thyroid issues on my Mom's side of my family, I am just not that big a fan of red meat. This does drive my older brother crazy at times; he LOVES his pork!

Yet another advantage to a vegetarian diet is that a vegetarian diet is simply cheaper than one with a lot of red meat.

[ThrowCop]

Most of the people I go to temple with are first or second generation immigrants. They are all very conservative at least socially and in their family life. Almost all of them are vegetarians or at least do not eat beef. I think when looking at Hindus that conservatism is a cultural thing. India herself is a conservative nation.

It's hard to adhere to the Rig Veda and not be conservative. No sex before marriage, no abortions, little to no divorce (strict rules on divorce), no sodomy, love everyone as you love yourself, against gay marriage, etc.Not to take this thread completely off topic but why then do you suppose Americans of Indian origin vote mostly democrat?

They are one of if not THE most affluent of immigrants and as you stated, their social beliefs tend rather toward the modern GOP?

[Hoobeedoo Bejesus]

I did a vegan diet for 2 years.

I still love a good vegan or veggie meal whenever I can get one.

[gdoane]

I did a vegan diet for 2 years.

I still love a good vegan or veggie meal whenever I can get one.

Pretty funny post when you look at the "eatin' babies with Obama" tagline. :think:

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Pretty funny post when you look at the "eatin' babies with Obama" tagline. :think:


But then again, he does not say exactly what kind of babies that he is eating with Obama. He could be eating baby carrots with Obama.....

[ISYairio]

I'd starve to death, lol.

[Hoobeedoo Bejesus]

But then again, he does not say exactly what kind of babies that he is eating with Obama. He could be eating baby carrots with Obama.....

I do have a baby blue jay in my kitchen right now!

[JenyEliza]

This thread is for conservatives only. And the question is . . . are any of you now, or have any of you ever been . . . a vegetarian?

Just curious. I'm in a little debate with an (idiot) friend of mine who is sure that there are "just as many conservative vegetarians as there are liberal vegetarians." I don't think so. In fact, I think we will be hard pressed to find ANY conservatives who will cop to being vegetarian.

If I'm wrong, prove me wrong. Be honest, now . . .

We are conservatives in our house and have one (1) vegetarian who will go strictly Vegan the moment she turns 18. ;) (she is a minor under my supervision for 3.5 more years). :dance:

But.... she IS conservative politically.

The rest of us eat meat and other things that once had faces. :mrgreen:

Her rule is if it had a face....no way.

[Finality]

I am a fiscal conservative, and I am very close to vegetarian. I eat meat occasionally -- maybe one or two days per month on average.

As you can probably guess, it's not an ideological thing for me. It's mostly that I don't like meat very much, but occasionally I get a craving for something.

I would be close to an ovo-lacto vegetarian (pescatarian), like someone mentioned previously. I like dairy, eggs, and fish -- a lot.

I don't know if I count, since I'm only a fiscal conservative ... lol :)

[F9thRet]

LOL, I just eat what's put in front me. Damn those Grandparents and there polite ways. :D

Stephen

[notluzn]

I know one but she does eat fish and seafood only.

[StoneScratcher]

This thread is for conservatives only. And the question is . . . are any of you now, or have any of you ever been . . . a vegetarian?

Just curious. I'm in a little debate with an (idiot) friend of mine who is sure that there are "just as many conservative vegetarians as there are liberal vegetarians." I don't think so. In fact, I think we will be hard pressed to find ANY conservatives who will cop to being vegetarian.

If I'm wrong, prove me wrong. Be honest, now . . .

Conservative here. And a vegan. How it started is when ecoli was found to be in beef. That is cow poop in beef, by the way. Anyway, even though you can eat a burger safely with cow poop in it if it is cooked over 140 degrees (to kill the ecoli bacteria), I still don't like the fact you're still eating cow poop. So I completely cut out beef, about 15 years ago, or whenever this ecoli poop story came out, the late 80's or early 90's. Then I would only eat what had feathers or came from the sea or lake. If it walked on four legs, I wouldn't eat it. Then I cut out the birds, and stuck to only seafood and fish. Then I cut out the seafood and ate only fish. Then, for about the last six months I am completely vegan.

It has nothing to do with religion, politics, or peer pressure by this liberal hell hole I live in (Massachusetts).

I am vegan because I found all I need from what grows from the earth, protein, calcium, minerals and vitamens.

Also, I do love animals, so I can't bear to think of how industrialized agriculture has made animals live in cruel situations. But don't get me wrong, even if a cow lived freely on a farm, and roamed freely, I still wouldn't chomp on its ribs for dinner.

Another thing--I did it not for "weight" issues. I've stayed the same weight throughout--but I am much toned now, for some reason.

[khigh]

Not to take this thread completely off topic but why then do you suppose Americans of Indian origin vote mostly democrat?

They are one of if not THE most affluent of immigrants and as you stated, their social beliefs tend rather toward the modern GOP?

You might be thinking about the Hare Krishna denomination. Hare Krishna was started in America for the American Hindus that do not want to adhere to conservative Hindu values. That's what Madonna is.

I go to a traditional Hindu temple.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

LOL, I just eat what's put in front me. Damn those Grandparents and their polite ways. :D

Stephen


Same here. If someone goes through the trouble of inviting me into their home to eat with them and they made a pork roast (as but one example) over which they labored a great portion of that day, I am not one to be rude and turn pork roast away!

But make pork for myself?! Uh-uh.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Conservative here. And a vegan. How it started is when ecoli was found to be in beef. That is cow poop in beef, by the way. Anyway, even though you can eat a burger safely with cow poop in it if it is cooked over 140 degrees (to kill the ecoli bacteria), I still don't like the fact you're still eating cow poop. So I completely cut out beef, about 15 years ago, or whenever this ecoli poop story came out, the late 80's or early 90's. Then I would only eat what had feathers or came from the sea or lake. If it walked on four legs, I wouldn't eat it. Then I cut out the birds, and stuck to only seafood and fish. Then I cut out the seafood and ate only fish. Then, for about the last six months I am completely vegan.

It has nothing to do with religion, politics, or peer pressure by this liberal hell hole I live in (Massachusetts).

I am vegan because I found all I need from what grows from the earth, protein, calcium, minerals and vitamens.

Also, I do love animals, so I can't bear to think of how industrialized agriculture has made animals live in cruel situations. But don't get me wrong, even if a cow lived freely on a farm, and roamed freely, I still wouldn't chomp on its ribs for dinner.

Another thing--I did it not for "weight" issues. I've stayed the same weight throughout--but I am much toned now, for some reason.


All excellent points.....

[RedStatePaPa]

Are babies considered vegetables? Because that's all I eat! :lol:

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Are babies considered vegetables? Because that's all I eat! :lol:


Uh no......

[I am the Eggman]

My cousin is a staunch conservative, was a College Republican, is a vegan, and is a member of PETA.
Come on now, just yesterday you were arguing that Bob can't exist as a married bachelor, and here you are trying to say your cousin exists as a staunch conservative and a PETA member. ;)

[Marleysdaddy]

Come on now, just yesterday you were arguing that Bob can't exist as a married bachelor, and here you are trying to say your cousin exists as a staunch conservative and a PETA member. ;)

As crazy as it sounds, it is indeed true.

Isn't it weird? It's almost as if one's politics and one's position on diet/animal treatment were entirely unrelated! :think:

[Mimiheart]

As crazy as it sounds, it is indeed true.

Isn't it weird? It's almost as if one's politics and one's position on diet/animal treatment were entirely unrelated! :think::hand:

[I am the Eggman]

As crazy as it sounds, it is indeed true.

Isn't it weird? It's almost as if one's politics and one's position on diet/animal treatment were entirely unrelated! :think:

Pretty impressive strawman you built there. ;)

[StoneScratcher]

Bill Maher:

"Meat is dirty! I wouldn't touch a hotdog without a condom on it!"

http://www.peta2.com/p2vsk2_flash/

Maher quote found on Tab 6 on the top.

[John2598]

I'm a vegetarian and a conservative/leaning libertarian. It's not really a PETA thing for me as more of a religious decision. I started with no beef (didn't like it anyways), then no live bearing animals, and now I don't eat anything that breathes. I do slip and have fish every once in awhile.

If you eat fish once in a while, you can call yourself a "Pescaterian". I'm a pescaterian but I don't go around telling people that. I just say I'm on a plant based diet because I only eat about 7 ounces of fish per week. That's the only animal protein that I eat.

For me it's not a religious decision and it's not because I worry about animal welfare. I do it to be healthy and I am. And, yes, I do identify with conservatives.

:cool:

[gdoane]

If you eat fish once in a while, you can call yourself a "Pescaterian". I'm a pescaterian but I don't go around telling people that. I just say I'm on a plant based diet because I only eat about 7 ounces of fish per week. That's the only animal protein that I eat.

For me it's not a religious decision and it's not because I worry about animal welfare. I do it to be healthy and I am. And, yes, I do identify with conservatives.

:cool:

Eating fish is expensive.

I realize that I live in the Sonoran Desert, and that fish are not generally commonplace among the saguaros and mesquite brush.

However, I have and hold an "L-Class" fishing license which is the deluxe Arizona resident license meaning if there's water and a fish in it I can by-gum drop a line anywhere in Arizona.

My Dwarf Gouramis cost $3 apiece in the fish tank in my living room. So far all the two fish I've caught this year fishing cost $25 apiece. When it's cheaper to buy fish than it is to catch them there's a problem.

And there's no enforcement either.

Last monday morning, I'm in Tempe Town Lake in a bright orange kayak fishing. The only boat launched on the water. I have my pole and my license and my boat license and everything legit and nobody checked nothing. Not even the fish. Got no bites.

Fish is expensive food. $53 fishing license, $800 Kayak, $200 for gear like pole, tackle and $30 permit.

I'm eating fish at $500 a pound, ain't I?

Fish has got to be the most expensive meat on the planet. Maybe that's why you never see it on a dollar menu anywhere.

[chip]

This thread is for conservatives only. And the question is . . . are any of you now, or have any of you ever been . . . a vegetarian?

Just curious. I'm in a little debate with an (idiot) friend of mine who is sure that there are "just as many conservative vegetarians as there are liberal vegetarians." I don't think so. In fact, I think we will be hard pressed to find ANY conservatives who will cop to being vegetarian.

If I'm wrong, prove me wrong. Be honest, now . . .


I know a lot of conservative vegetarians, but I know a lot of conservatives too.

[PredFan]

I'm a conservative who eats vegitarians, does that count?

[warrior123]

I rarely talk politics with my vegetarian friends and acquaintances; most are very liberal.

[sgtmac_46]

This thread is for conservatives only. And the question is . . . are any of you now, or have any of you ever been . . . a vegetarian?

Just curious. I'm in a little debate with an (idiot) friend of mine who is sure that there are "just as many conservative vegetarians as there are liberal vegetarians." I don't think so. In fact, I think we will be hard pressed to find ANY conservatives who will cop to being vegetarian.

If I'm wrong, prove me wrong. Be honest, now . . .

I'd say you're probably right.....there ARE 'conservative' vegetarians, but not man. Those that are do so as a result of health issues, I would suspect.........and not driven by the kind of anthropomorphic silliness that drives many left leaning vegetarians.

[sgtmac_46]

I rarely talk politics with my vegetarian friends and acquaintances; most are very liberal.

I had a vegetarian girlfriend once.........we didn't talk politics, as she was very lefty........but we found other common interests to enjoy. :)

[sgtmac_46]

As crazy as it sounds, it is indeed true.

Isn't it weird? It's almost as if one's politics and one's position on diet/animal treatment were entirely unrelated! :think:

Not entirely.......in fact not at all........hyper-empathic hysteria to the point of anthropomorphism, and indeed, a vicious kind of idealistic misanthropy is indicative of a larger mental illness that effects one political polarity.

It would be fair to argue that some on the other extreme suffer from a deficit of anthropomorphic empathy........but I don't consider logic over emotionalism any sort of real vice.

[dave rogers]

This thread is for conservatives only. And the question is . . . are any of you now, or have any of you ever been . . . a vegetarian?

Just curious. I'm in a little debate with an (idiot) friend of mine who is sure that there are "just as many conservative vegetarians as there are liberal vegetarians." I don't think so. In fact, I think we will be hard pressed to find ANY conservatives who will cop to being vegetarian.

If I'm wrong, prove me wrong. Be honest, now . . .
In Alaska we call vegitarians people that can't hunt. I know of no vegetarian conservitives by choice. Only those that look at my freezer full of wild game wishing they had been more successful.

[Samm]

If God had not intended Conservatives to eat meat he would not have given them canines.


BTW... There is nothing wrong with eating Vegans... nothing that is that the proper cooking technique and a little seasoning won't fix. ;)

[Samm]

In Alaska we call vegitarians people that can't hunt. I know of no vegetarian conservitives by choice. Only those that look at my freezer full of wild game wishing they had been more successful.

Some of have learned that it is not necessary to hunt for meat. I know more than enough hunters whose abilities out weigh their freezer space. ;)

[sisyphus]

"the secrets in the sauce"
Fried Green Tomatoes

If vegetarianism is a choice (not a health necessity) actually there is no cognitive dissonance involved with also being conservative. Liberty is at the core of the conservative world view, diet choices would fit no matter how they may look to us carnivores.

[Samm]

"the secrets in the sauce"
Fried Green Tomatoes

"The flavor is in the fat." - Samm

[sisyphus]

"The flavor is in the fat." - Samm

That being the case there must be some very tasty 'head cheese' in DC

[Samm]

That being the case there must be some very tasty 'head cheese' in DC

I think the very thought of eating the President is unpatriotic. :snooty:

[sisyphus]

Why?...too bony ;-]

[ka2008]

Yes .. ...though not all of my life. An on and off kinda thing...When I eat it I just prefer fish. Chicken and beef gross me out. I like eggs and milk too.

[Ninjacorpse]

The more important question is, since they can now grow meat in the laboratory is it ok to eat that?

[Dragon1963]

I'm not about to go vegetarian. I'm also convinced that eating my beef nearly raw is much healthier than over cooking it like most people do.

[Samm]

The more important question is, since they can now grow meat in the laboratory is it ok to eat that?

Cloned tenderloins? :eek: