More 'Semi-nude Photos Leaked of Miss California

[BillyBobUSA]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/05/07/california.miss.california/index.html

A second lingerie-modeling photo of Miss California USA Carrie Prejean has appeared after she assured pageant officials this week that the earlier shot was the only one she had appeared in.
The Web site that published the first picture published a second one Wednesday. It had already promised to "slowly roll out" more photos.
After the appearance of the first photo, the possibility that racier images could emerge prompted "closed-door meetings" Tuesday to consider stripping Prejean of her beauty queen title, pageant spokesman Ron Neal said.
Although Neal said Prejean "breached her contract" by keeping the semi-nude photo or photos a secret, the only pictures published so far appear about as revealing as the bikini Prejean wore in the pageant's swimsuit competition....

Prejean defended the photos, which she said were taken when she was a teenager aspiring to be a Victoria's Secret (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/victoria_s_secret_stores_inc) model.
"I am a Christian, and I am a model," she said. "Models pose for pictures, including lingerie and swimwear photos."
She said the photos "have been released surreptitiously to a tabloid Web site that openly mocks me for my Christian faith."
"I am not perfect, and I will never claim to be," she said. "But these attacks on me and others who speak in defense of traditional marriage are intolerant and offensive. While we may not agree on every issue, we should show respect for others' opinions and not try to silence them through vicious and mean-spirited attacks."
Her publicist, Melany Ethridge, confirmed a comment she gave to celebrity Web site TMZ in which she said Prejean was 17 when she posed for the photos, hoping they would land her a modeling job.
"In her naivete, an agent convinced her to pose for this photo to submit to a lingerie company, claiming they could make her the next Victoria's Secret model," Ethridge told TMZ. "She has since learned what a lie that was, and what a mistake it was to have the photo taken."

And Homosexual Mafia continues its 'politics of personal destruction' of anyone that gets in their way.

These people are evil in every sense of the word.

[MrShotShot]

Good Lord, this poor woman is being investigated more than Obama was in the primaries.

What's wrong with our country and an individual can't have their own opinion on an issue?

[Gabby]

I would bet that most, if not all, of the young ladies in that pageant took similar photos or worse at one time or another. It's not unusual for aspiring models to have such photos taken. It'd be a hoot if someone would find and publish photos of all that they can find. It could put a reality check on this nonsense.

[Claymore]

Don't you just love that much bally-hooed, universally applied, liberal tolerance?

[Theranna]

Most of you are old enough to remember Vanessa L. Williams and her reign as Miss America... she received hate mail and death threats, not for her political affiliations but for her color. She lost the title too due to the same types of pictures. What makes Prejean better?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_L._Williams#Pageants_and_Miss_America_titl e

I love the hypocrisy...


Ten months into her reign as Miss America, she received an anonymous phone call stating that nude photos of her taken by a photographer prior to her pageant days had surfaced. Williams believed the photographs were private and had been destroyed; she claims she never signed a release permitting the photos to be used.[7] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_L._Williams#cite_note-6)
The genesis of the photos dated back to 1982, when she worked as an assistant and makeup artist for Mount Kisco, New York (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Kisco,_New_York) photographer Tom Chiapel. According to Williams, Chiapel advised her that he wanted to try a "new concept of silhouettes with two models." He photographed Williams and another woman in several nude poses. The photographs depicted mild overtones of simulated lesbian sex (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian_sexual_practices), which was quite controversial for its time.[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_L._Williams#cite_note-7)
Hugh Hefner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Hefner), the publisher of Playboy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playboy), was initially offered the photos, but turned them down. Later Hefner would explain why in People Weekly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_Weekly), "Vanessa Williams is a beautiful woman. There was never any question of our interest in the photos. But they clearly weren't authorized and because they would be the source of considerable embarrassment to her, we decided not to publish them. We were also mindful that she was the first black Miss America." Days later, Bob Guccione (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Guccione), the publisher of Penthouse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penthouse_%28magazine%29), announced that his magazine would publish the photos in their September 1984 issue, and paid Chiapel for the rights to them without Williams' consent. According to the PBS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PBS) documentary Miss America, Williams' issue of Penthouse would ultimately bring Guccione a $14 million windfall.[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_L._Williams#cite_note-autogenerated1-5)
After days of media frenzy and sponsors threatening to pull out of the upcoming 1985 pageant, Williams felt pressured by Miss America Pageant officials to resign, and did so in a press conference on July 23, 1984. The title subsequently went to first-runner up, African-Italian Suzette Charles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzette_Charles). In early September 1984, Williams filed an unheralded $500 million lawsuit against Chiapel and Guccione. According to a Williams family representative, she eventually dropped the suit to avoid further legal battles choosing to move on with her life. Williams is quoted as saying "the best revenge is success."

[MrShotShot]

Most of you are old enough to remember Vanessa L. Williams and her reign as Miss America... she received hate mail and death threats, not for her political affiliations but for her color. She lost the title too due to the same types of pictures. What makes Prejean better?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_L._Williams#Pageants_and_Miss_America_titl e

I love the hypocrisy...

Apples and oranges much?

[Theranna]

Apples and oranges much?

How?

[davetexas]

Most of you are old enough to remember Vanessa L. Williams and her reign as Miss America... she received hate mail and death threats, not for her political affiliations but for her color. She lost the title too due to the same types of pictures. What makes Prejean better?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_L._Williams#Pageants_and_Miss_America_titl e

I love the hypocrisy...


The hypocrisy is the left promoting homos and their nude parades,trying to force the entire nation to embrace their perversion,while supposedly policing someone for their alleged "perversion"

The left are hypocrites on steroids. Under the lefts bankrupt morality any perversion should be commended.

[Claymore]

If the pics showed about as much dermis as a bikini,,, what is the hoo-haa?
Why is a pretty girl with a mainstream moral outlook, who modeled lingerie, such a threat to immoral pervets?

[notluzn]

And all those Liberal men are googling at her pictures wishing they had a chance. Bill Clinton is heading that.

[Mimiheart]

I would consider the bikini competition semi-nude.

[mysticbeauty_nbeast]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/05/07/california.miss.california/index.html



And Homosexual Mafia continues its 'politics of personal destruction' of anyone that gets in their way.

These people are evil in every sense of the word.

This group of people...who ever they may be...won't stop until this young woman is ground down to nothing will they? :think: Now if only we could turn this type of microscopic lens on those in government and in power...hmmmm...what garbage could we pull up and grind them up on? :think:

And who has access to these 'old photo's' anyway? Who keeps leaking this stuff to the media? That's not Carrie's fault that some greedy little photo wanna be is making money off her public shaming and flogging....can't they track who is putting these photo's out there? Turn the light on the scum bag who is trying to make money on a gross situation? Now that could be interesting....right?


~Mysty

[ExDem]

And all those Liberal men are googling at her pictures wishing they had a chance. Bill Clinton is heading that.

:eek::naughty:

[ExDem]

I would consider the bikini competition semi-nude.

What is the difference between a bikini and underwear??? Nothing. You don't see anything more in the supposed "semi-nude" photos, then you did in the bikini part of the competition. It is ludicrous. If they don't want their girls shown semi-nude, then they should get rid of the bikini competition. Ridiculous.

[ThrowCop]

How?If you have seen the Vanessa Williams pictures, there is a WORLD of difference here.

I don't have an issue at all with the photos, I DO have an issue with her apparently lying about their existence.

[RayMan]

good lord, this poor woman is being investigated more than obama was in the primaries.

What's wrong with our country and an individual can't have their own opinion on an issue?
+1

[Theranna]

If you have seen the Vanessa Williams pictures, there is a WORLD of difference here.

I don't have an issue at all with the photos, I DO have an issue with her apparently lying about their existence.

It's not about the tone of the pictures but rather about their existence. Both ladies messed by saying not such pictures existed when registering for this contest. They checked a box saying that they had never taken any nude or semi-nude pictures when they clearly had. They both lied and they both have to deal with the consequences of their lies.

[pattyk]

usually I don't weigh in on the gay issue....but here I'm going to.

if you gay people want to marry, march in your far out little parades and have your own bars..............

LEAVE THE REST OF US ALONE AND MAYBE WE'LL LEAVE YOU ALONE.

BACK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ThrowCop]

usually I don't weigh in on the gay issue....but here I'm going to.

if you gay people want to marry, march in your far out little parades and have your own bars..............

LEAVE THE REST OF US ALONE AND MAYBE WE'LL LEAVE YOU ALONE.

BACK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!When has a gay person assaulted you?


And who is the, "we" you speak of?

[ThrowCop]

It's not about the tone of the pictures but rather about their existence. Both ladies messed by saying not such pictures existed when registering for this contest. They checked a box saying that they had never taken any nude or semi-nude pictures when they clearly had. They both lied and they both have to deal with the consequences of their lies.At least from what has come out so far, this would have been ignored had she not said she was against gay marriage.

[pattyk]

When has a gay person assaulted you?


And who is the, "we" you speak of?

Not me if that's what you mean. I have no probs with gay people, I have friends that are gay and I like them.

but what these kooks are doing to this woman is despicable.

I am being assaulted by reading about what they are doing to her.

[Marleysdaddy]

I am being assaulted by reading about what they are doing to her.

:)) I'd like to see that being argued before a judge - I'm pretty sure that doesn't count as assault.

[MrShotShot]

How?

Let's see, for starters - Vanessa had her face buried in another woman's crotch in several of the photos vs a photo that looks like it came from a Sears catalogue page for panties.

[pattyk]

:)) I'd like to see that being argued before a judge - I'm pretty sure that doesn't count as assault.

it just might if Prejean takes it in front of one (if she can find a dam judge in callyfornia that isn't a big lib)

[pdmike]

And all those Liberal men are googling at her pictures wishing they had a chance. Bill Clinton is heading that.

You got something against good looking, semi-nude women?

Hmmmmmm . . . . .

[pattyk]

You got something against good looking, semi-nude women?

Hmmmmmm . . . . .

LOL! pd - quick wit as usual!

[curtis123]

Good Lord, this poor woman is being investigated more than Obama was in the primaries.

What's wrong with our country and an individual can't have their own opinion on an issue?

What's next, an interview with Charlie Gibson?

She's the runner-up, for God's sake.

As we're seeing, the media is very selective on who's feet are held to the fire.

[Gospel Checker]

Good Lord, this poor woman is being investigated more than Obama was in the primaries.

What's wrong with our country and an individual can't have their own opinion on an issue?


You can have your own opinion as long as you either agree with the powers that be, or just keep it to yourself. See? Everybody wins!! Yippee!

[Pudge]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/05/07/california.miss.california/index.html



And Homosexual Mafia continues its 'politics of personal destruction' of anyone that gets in their way.

These people are evil in every sense of the word.

Why, because Prejean is being exposed as a liar and a hypocrite? She's fair game, she joined an activist group, she's no longer just a pretty face with an opinion.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I have no problem with her expressing her opinion. I think it's hilarious how the cons have rushed to her side, though. Had she expressed the opposing opinion on gay marriage and these photos of her had appeared (taken when she was a minor), you people would be having a kitten and blasting her for being 'immoral'.

Hypocrites.

[MrShotShot]

I have no problem with her expressing her opinion. I think it's hilarious how the cons have rushed to her side, though. Had she expressed the opposing opinion on gay marriage and these photos of her had appeared (taken when she was a minor), you people would be having a kitten and blasting her for being 'immoral'.

Hypocrites.

I don't think "we people" really give two ****s about the whole thing.

Personally I think it's hilarious that we're now approaching two weeks on this "news story" considering that news of the actual pageant and winner barely warrants a sidebar on the lifestyle page anymore.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

I don't think "we people" really give two ****s about the whole thing.

I've been here long enough to know what the response would be had the situation been reversed.

Regardless, I don't really care about any of this except for the fact her parents allowed their teenage daughter to pose for such photos. I raised two daughters, and no way in hell would I have ever allowed such a thing. And I can pretty much guarantee my friends who have daughters would feel the same way---conservative and liberal alike. Dear Lord, what were they thinking?

[Pudge]

I have no problem with her expressing her opinion. I think it's hilarious how the cons have rushed to her side, though. Had she expressed the opposing opinion on gay marriage and these photos of her had appeared (taken when she was a minor), you people would be having a kitten and blasting her for being 'immoral'.

Hypocrites.

Or at least, they would be demanding that the people who took and distributed these pictures be prosecuted under child pornography laws.

Just to recap- I was originally on the side of Carrie Prejean when she was attacked by Perez Hilton for her opinion on marriage. I disagreed with her, but she was asked the question and answered honestly, and did not deserve to be called a 'dumb bitch' by the judge who asked it.

Then, Prejean joins the National Organization for Marriage, which put out the lie-filled and much-parodied "gathering storm" ads. Now, she is not just a contestant stating her opinion when asked, she is now an activist, and with that, she is now fair game for criticism. It was revealed that she had breast enlargement. So, according to her, same-sex marriage not natural, fake boobs A-OK. What God intends for matrimony should be followed, but if God doesn't bestow a full, voluptuous bosom on you, then go ahead and put saline pouches inside of you for no more reason than your own vanity. OK. Whatever.

Now, she has racy pictures surfacing and to be honest, I don't care that she had them taken, that she was 17 when they were taken, or that even more disturbing, she probably had her boob job before they were taken, meaning she would have had her chest stuffed before she was a legal adult. No, what bothers me is, again, her sanctimonious attitude that she can go and flout her body the way she does, to use it in a sexually enticing manner, to take surgical steps to increase her sex appeal while calling herself a Christian, and then she's going to be an activist working against other people *and* that some people think that she shouldn't be criticized for it.

[MrShotShot]

I've been here long enough to know what the response would be had the situation been reversed.

Regardless, I don't really care about any of this except for the fact her parents allowed their teenage daughter to pose for such photos. I raised two daughters, and no way in hell would I have ever allowed such a thing. And I can pretty much guarantee my friends who have daughters would feel the same way---conservative and liberal alike. Dear Lord, what were they thinking?

I seriously doubt there would have even been a posting if she had said she supported gay marriage - mainly because it wouldn't have made a blip on the media radar.

I'm really trying to think hard about this, but I'm not recalling any media stories in the past ten years pertaining to how a runner up in the Miss Whatever pageant answered a question. Sure, we had what's her name last year her "US Americans", but that's not really the same thing.

As to your second point - I agree completely.

[Joeybear23]

It appears the Perez Hilton wing of the gay movement is pretty intolerant...

[Pudge]

It appears the Perez Hilton wing of the gay movement is pretty intolerant...

There is no such 'wing'. Hilton is a loudmouth jerk.

That being said, once she joined an activist group, fair game. Welcome to politics 101, Carrie.

[Samm]

Good Lord, this poor woman is being investigated more than Obama was in the primaries.

What's wrong with our country and an individual can't have their own opinion on an issue?

What is most pathetic... and more than just a little bit hypocritical... is that her stated position on gay marriage is virtually identical to Obama's.

[Samm]

I have no problem with her expressing her opinion. I think it's hilarious how the cons have rushed to her side, though. Had she expressed the opposing opinion on gay marriage and these photos of her had appeared (taken when she was a minor), you people would be having a kitten and blasting her for being 'immoral'.

Hypocrites.

Hypocrites yes, but they are not the Conservatives. The Hypocrites are the Liberals - Obama supporters - who are vilifying her for holding the same opinion on Gay Marriage as he.

And I think you would be very hard pressed to find a Conservative who thinks those underwear adds are immoral regardless of how old she may have been when the photos were taken, that was not also of the opinion that the Miss America pageant itself was immoral.

[Samm]

I've been here long enough to know what the response would be had the situation been reversed.

:)) :)) :)) Oh come on now EG... even you don't believe that. ;)

[Samm]

<snip>

Now, she has racy pictures surfacing and to be honest, I don't care that she had them taken, that she was 17 when they were taken, or that even more disturbing, she probably had her boob job before they were taken, meaning she would have had her chest stuffed before she was a legal adult. No, what bothers me is, again, her sanctimonious attitude that she can go and flout her body the way she does, to use it in a sexually enticing manner, to take surgical steps to increase her sex appeal while calling herself a Christian, and then she's going to be an activist working against other people *and* that some people think that she shouldn't be criticized for it.

"Flout her body"? Give me a break... God (and perhaps a plastic surgeon, although I have not seen proof of that) gave her that body... why shouldn't she flout it. Just because she is a Christian does not mean that she has to be a prude. There is nothing in Christianity that would prohibit her from participating in beauty pageants or "provocative" modeling. Statistically, Christian women are very likely to not feel guilty about their sexuality... seeing it as a gift from God. If she can gain financially from that "gift" yet not violate her Christian morals why should she not?

And as far as her being an activist against gays... that is a real stretch. :neutral:

[stoked]

Good Lord, this poor woman is being investigated more than Obama was in the primaries.

What's wrong with our country and an individual can't have their own opinion on an issue?

:)) We are so done.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

And all those Liberal men are googling at her pictures wishing they had a chance. Bill Clinton is heading that.

Don't google at her pictures too much though.

You'll go blind ;)

[Liability]

Good Lord, this poor woman is being investigated more than Obama was in the primaries.

What's wrong with our country and an individual can't have their own opinion on an issue?

Good point. Was she born in Hawaii or in Kenya? Did she ever travel on the passport of another nation? Can a good Christian girl permit herself to be photographed in a way that displays her semi-clothed curves? If she has ever been photographed in a way that displays her bare breasts, is she really qualified to be a beauty pageant winner OR a runner up for that matter? Is she REALLY suited to be our next President?

[JimGP20]

I have no problem with her expressing her opinion. I think it's hilarious how the cons have rushed to her side, though. Had she expressed the opposing opinion on gay marriage and these photos of her had appeared (taken when she was a minor), you people would be having a kitten and blasting her for being 'immoral'.

Hypocrites.

Some may have reacted as you state, but I would be just as upset for her treatment if her answer would have been different. It's not as if she was simply giving an unsolicited opinion.... they asked her and she answered. It is ridiculous to now rake her over the coals because that answer wasn't what they wanted to hear.

[Joeybear23]

I have no problem with her expressing her opinion. I think it's hilarious how the cons have rushed to her side, though. Had she expressed the opposing opinion on gay marriage and these photos of her had appeared (taken when she was a minor), you people would be having a kitten and blasting her for being 'immoral'.

Hypocrites.

How can you label someone a hypocrite for some action that you "imagine" they "would do" in a different situation?

[BillyBobUSA]

It's not about the tone of the pictures but rather about their existence. Both ladies messed by saying not such pictures existed when registering for this contest. They checked a box saying that they had never taken any nude or semi-nude pictures when they clearly had. They both lied and they both have to deal with the consequences of their lies.

Miss California did not do semi-nude pics IMO. Semi-nude to me means you have exposed yourself in an indecent way without being fully nude and she did not do that.

This is just more leftist hypocrisy as they go to bat for one of their little patronage groups.

[BillyBobUSA]

How can you label someone a hypocrite for some action that you "imagine" they "would do" in a different situation?

It is called 'self-righteousness'.

[MrShotShot]

Hypocrites yes, but they are not the Conservatives. The Hypocrites are the Liberals - Obama supporters - who are vilifying her for holding the same opinion on Gay Marriage as he.




Good point.

As for the photos - I've seen racier ones in Field & Stream

[notluzn]

no but my wife does:lol::lol:You got something against good looking, semi-nude women?

Hmmmmmm . . . . .

[PSBandit]

There is a sickness in this great land.... its called the leftist press.

[EmmanuelGoldstein]

Hypocrites yes, but they are not the Conservatives. The Hypocrites are the Liberals - Obama supporters - who are vilifying her for holding the same opinion on Gay Marriage as he.

And I think you would be very hard pressed to find a Conservative who thinks those underwear adds are immoral regardless of how old she may have been when the photos were taken, that was not also of the opinion that the Miss America pageant itself was immoral.
I couldn't care less what she says about marriage. But I've been here long enough to know the reaction had she been a 'libbie'.

Oh, and her age at the time of the photos does make a difference, IMO. It does appear she lied about that too, though.

[notluzn]

I say of more people "Including me" worried about their own Back yardd instead of someone elses, we would all be a little better. Just don't crap in my yard.

[Samm]

I couldn't care less what she says about marriage. But I've been here long enough to know the reaction had she been a 'libbie'.

Oh, and her age at the time of the photos does make a difference, IMO. It does appear she lied about that too, though.

I think the length of time you have been here is causing you to have hallucinations. Your hypothetical is fatally flawed. If she was a "libbie" she wouldn't have said such a thing about Gay Marriage (in spite of Obama holding the same view); she would have been "perfectly politically correct."

However, for someone who doesn't care, you certainly seem to hold a definite opinion about her morality. :razz:

[JohnRandolph]

Semi-Nude?

Aint that the same thing as Half Nekked?


Old news, she done been in the swimsuit competition, which is dam near all nekked, so whats the controversy about?


Now if y'all want to discuss something of relevance. That Hilton thing with his prissy nose all out of joint.

Having a gay fella judge a female beauty contest is something akin to having a vegan judge a BBQ cookoff....

[Gabby]

It's not about the tone of the pictures but rather about their existence. Both ladies messed by saying not such pictures existed when registering for this contest. They checked a box saying that they had never taken any nude or semi-nude pictures when they clearly had. They both lied and they both have to deal with the consequences of their lies.

You might want to google "Venessa Williams nude photos". They are a Penthouse 'spread'. They have full frontal nudity, leg spreads, lesbian sexual acts. They not only fully nude but pornography.

If you cannot tell the difference between ponography and a traditional 'bare back' modeling photo than don't know what to say to ya.

The ones of the current Miss California are no racier than the bathing suit completion in the pageant. Generally ‘partial nudity’ does not mean a bear back. There are bathing suits that expose more than those photos expose. The bathing suit completion of the pageant exposed more. IMHO, I understand Miss Cali not considering her modeling shots to be nudity or partial nudity. Partial nudity usually implies full frontal nude images with only the top or the bottom covered.

Perhaps the problem here is that the pageant is hypocritical in that it apparently allows what they are not considering ‘partial nudity’ on their runway for the world to see. But they do not want their contestants to participate in the same kind of ‘partial nudity’.
Me thinks that the pageant needs to specifically define in their contract what they call partial nudity.

[smyrna]

Most of you are old enough to remember Vanessa L. Williams and her reign as Miss America... she received hate mail and death threats, not for her political affiliations but for her color. She lost the title too due to the same types of pictures. What makes Prejean better?

There isn't even a comparison between pictures that made Penthouse magazine and a picture that shows her back...give me a break.


I love the hypocrisy...

The hypocrisy is comparing the two not based on the content of the picture but because her politics are different than yours.

[Joeybear23]

So far, the only pictures that have surfaced are ones very similar to those taken of Miley Cyrus several months ago, which many of the libs here thought were perfectlly innocent.

[JimGP20]

So far, the only pictures that have surfaced are ones very similar to those taken of Miley Cyrus several months ago, which many of the libs here thought were perfectlly innocent.


Come on Joey.... get with the program. Here's how it works:

1. Free speech: Liberals = good / Conservatives = bad

2. Physical enhancements: Liberals = good / Conservatives = bad

3. Posing for provocative photos: Liberals = good / Conservatives = bad

4. Speaking out for traditional marriage: POTUS = good / beauty pageant contestant = bad.

Happy I could help. :cool:

[newyorkjetsfan]

Trump said that he would decide if Carrie Perjean will keep her crown.

I can't help but wonder what would Stubal say about this. :)

[who]

There isn't even a comparison between pictures that made Penthouse magazine and a picture that shows her back...give me a break. ....
I see more than her back there...

[Liability]

* * * *


Now if y'all want to discuss something of relevance. That Hilton thing with his prissy nose all out of joint.

Having a gay fella judge a female beauty contest is something akin to having a vegan judge a BBQ cookoff....[/SIZE][/FONT]

LOL!

:))

That right there is funny. I don't care who you are!

Git 'er done!

[WhiteHatBobby]

The Rhode Island beauty queen at the centre of the controversy publicly said in a media appearance this week that the only reason Miss Prejean is being attacked is for one reason only -- her stance supporting traditional marriage.

Alysha Castonguay (RI) had a more questionable photo and was cleared by NBC and The Trump Organisation.

"I don't know if I would've came forward with them, you know, and let them know that there were pictures out there. I wouldn't have thought that they would ever be published."

CBS' Maggie Rodriguez asked if the leaking was to punish Miss Prejean "because she went public and has continued to be so public about her views on same-sex marriage?"

Miss Casonguay: "I think it's from the answer that she gave that night onstage. And, you know, I think that everybody needs to be prepared to hear both ways that that question could've been answered. It was her opinion."

If this is the real reason, folks, we are seeing the New Tolerance movement come to full force: accept our one-sided marriage views or else.

[Vaard]

s long as she was semi nude for jesus, all is good.........

[MrShotShot]

With nude and suggestive photos being so in vogue in recent years, I absolutely cannot wait for future election cycles - it's going to be so much fun.

[Gabby]

The Rhode Island beauty queen at the centre of the controversy publicly said in a media appearance this week that the only reason Miss Prejean is being attacked is for one reason only -- her stance supporting traditional marriage.

Alysha Castonguay (RI) had a more questionable photo and was cleared by NBC and The Trump Organisation.

"I don't know if I would've came forward with them, you know, and let them know that there were pictures out there. I wouldn't have thought that they would ever be published."

CBS' Maggie Rodriguez asked if the leaking was to punish Miss Prejean "because she went public and has continued to be so public about her views on same-sex marriage?"

Miss Casonguay: "I think it's from the answer that she gave that night onstage. And, you know, I think that everybody needs to be prepared to hear both ways that that question could've been answered. It was her opinion."

If this is the real reason, folks, we are seeing the New Tolerance movement come to full force: accept our one-sided marriage views or else.
Yep....

Alysha Castonguay posed toplessAlysha Castonguay Topless Photos Ignite Controversy photos for Maxim magazine and a couple of swimsuit calendars prior to entering the Miss USA pageant and that they were scrutinized and approved by pageant officials.

I've been waiting for more info on pageant members who exposed more skin and yet the pageant had no problem with them. The pageant is basically using the bare back shots of Miss Cali to rail road her.

[DaGooseMon]

Most of you are old enough to remember Vanessa L. Williams and her reign as Miss America... she received hate mail and death threats, not for her political affiliations but for her color. She lost the title too due to the same types of pictures. What makes Prejean better?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_L._Williams#Pageants_and_Miss_America_titl e

I love the hypocrisy...

You mean to tell me that there are pics of Miss California engaged in lesbianism floating around somewhere? Sweet!

Oh wait, you don't really mean the "same types of pictures" do you, because that's what was in the Venessa Williams pics.

Not that there's anything wrong with that... :lol:

[Marleysdaddy]

So far, the only pictures that have surfaced are ones very similar to those taken of Miley Cyrus several months ago, which many of the libs here thought were perfectlly [sic] innocent.

Can you reveal the identity (preferably with a link to a post) of one of the libs who thought the Miley Cyrus photos were "perfectly innocent"?

[Dr. Funkenstein]

The Rhode Island beauty queen at the centre of the controversy publicly said in a media appearance this week that the only reason Miss Prejean is being attacked is for one reason only -- her stance supporting traditional marriage.

Alysha Castonguay (RI) had a more questionable photo and was cleared by NBC and The Trump Organisation.

"I don't know if I would've came forward with them, you know, and let them know that there were pictures out there. I wouldn't have thought that they would ever be published."

CBS' Maggie Rodriguez asked if the leaking was to punish Miss Prejean "because she went public and has continued to be so public about her views on same-sex marriage?"

Miss Casonguay: "I think it's from the answer that she gave that night onstage. And, you know, I think that everybody needs to be prepared to hear both ways that that question could've been answered. It was her opinion."

If this is the real reason, folks, we are seeing the New Tolerance movement come to full force: accept our one-sided marriage views or else.

It would seem as though NBC and Trump KNEW about Miss RI's pictures BEFORE the pageant because she DISCLOSED THEM (you know, since the contract she signed said she had to disclose them).

Miss CA did NOT disclose them. Then she tried to lie about them (claiming they were taken when she was 17 so no one would release them under threat of child pornography laws, despite the fact that what little clothing she was wearing wasn't even made until after she'd turned 18).

I've said this repeatedly...the initial attacks on her were uncalled for. Disagreement with someone's stance is fine, but getting personal about it (and calling her a bitch and a **** definitely falls into "personal") is over the line. The fact that she appears to have violated her contract is her own problem, however, and I have no sympathy for her in that regard.

Now if you don't mind...I'm going to go home and google "Miss Rhode Island topless" :dance:

[Dr. Funkenstein]

With nude and suggestive photos being so in vogue in recent years, I absolutely cannot wait for future election cycles - it's going to be so much fun.

Seriously. Mitt Romney is so ****ed in 2012 ;)

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Yep....

Alysha Castonguay posed toplessAlysha Castonguay Topless Photos Ignite Controversy photos for Maxim magazine and a couple of swimsuit calendars prior to entering the Miss USA pageant and that they were scrutinized and approved by pageant officials.

I've been waiting for more info on pageant members who exposed more skin and yet the pageant had no problem with them. The pageant is basically using the bare back shots of Miss Cali to rail road her.

Contracts can be such messy things when you violate them.

All she had to do is say "yeah...dude took some pictures of me wearing nothing but a pair of underwear and a smile so I could try to be a Victoria's Secret model", and we would not be having this conversation.

[roger teekell]

How?

You don't see how a FULLY NUDE Playboy layout is different from this??

[Buffalo]

Contracts can be such messy things when you violate them.

All she had to do is say "yeah...dude took some pictures of me wearing nothing but a pair of underwear and a smile so I could try to be a Victoria's Secret model", and we would not be having this conversation.
New pics around D Funk. Check out TMZ.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

You don't see how a FULLY NUDE Playboy layout is different from this??

The concept is the same, even if the pictures were definitely more salacious in Williams's case. (btw...it was Penthouse, not Playboy...Hefner wouldn't publish the pictures because Williams had never signed a consent form to release them, but Guccione had no problem with it because he's an *******).

Both are being punished for pictures that are in violation of their contracts. Both (I think) could have avoided the problem if they'd simply told officials of the existence of the photos ahead of time. True...Williams probably would have been kicked out because of the nature of the photos that had been taken (although she rightly believed they'd never be released because she'd never CONSENTED for them to be released, while Ms. Prejean did consent to their release due to the fact that she wanted to get them to Victoria's Secret).

Again...if Ms. Prejean had acknowledged there were semi-nude photos of her, she'd still just be the runner-up for Miss USA who lost because a ********* judge had a political axe to grind.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

New pics around D Funk. Check out TMZ.

You trying to get me fired? I'll check when I get home...;)

[Buffalo]

You trying to get me fired? I'll check when I get home...;)
No limits when you pay the internet bill :lol: :dance:

[Dr. Funkenstein]

No limits when you pay the internet bill :lol: :dance:

:snooty:

Damn you.

[DaGooseMon]

The concept is the same, even if the pictures were definitely more salacious in Williams's case. (btw...it was Penthouse, not Playboy...Hefner wouldn't publish the pictures because Williams had never signed a consent form to release them, but Guccione had no problem with it because he's an *******).

Both are being punished for pictures that are in violation of their contracts. Both (I think) could have avoided the problem if they'd simply told officials of the existence of the photos ahead of time. True...Williams probably would have been kicked out because of the nature of the photos that had been taken (although she rightly believed they'd never be released because she'd never CONSENTED for them to be released, while Ms. Prejean did consent to their release due to the fact that she wanted to get them to Victoria's Secret).

Again...if Ms. Prejean had acknowledged there were semi-nude photos of her, she'd still just be the runner-up for Miss USA who lost because a ********* judge had a political axe to grind.

Are you saying the concept of the photos is the same? Or are you saying that the concept of the non-disclosure is the same?

Because if you think a chick in her underwear is the same as the lesbian spread that Williams did, you need to put down your Sears catalog and get out of the house more.

[JimGP20]

Contracts can be such messy things when you violate them.

All she had to do is say "yeah...dude took some pictures of me wearing nothing but a pair of underwear and a smile so I could try to be a Victoria's Secret model", and we would not be having this conversation.


Actually, if she had given an answer to the gay marriage question that the liberal press approved of, we would not be having this conversation.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Are you saying the concept of the photos is the same? Or are you saying that the concept of the non-disclosure is the same?

Because if you think a chick in her underwear is the same as the lesbian spread that Williams did, you need to put down your Sears catalog and get out of the house more.

Concept of the non-disclosure, in addition to the fact that Williams never consented to the release while Miss CA did. You'll note where I said the photos were "definitely more salacious in Williams's case".

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Actually, if she had given an answer to the gay marriage question that the liberal press approved of, we would not be having this conversation.

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?p=54295691#post54295691

Again...if Ms. Prejean had acknowledged there were semi-nude photos of her, she'd still just be the runner-up for Miss USA who lost because a ********* judge had a political axe to grind.

I've been pretty consistent to note this.

[johnrocks]

That girl is H-O-T!!! They don't need to take her crown, they need to put up a billboard of her at every road leading into that broke ass state and charge admittance!

[Mojotiger]

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?p=54295691#post54295691



I've been pretty consistent to note this.

There are two arguments here. One is whether she violated the terms of her contract. It appears that she did. The other is what prompted the investigation to begin with. Or is it standard practice to investigate the runner up of a beauty pageant?

[DaGooseMon]

Concept of the non-disclosure, in addition to the fact that Williams never consented to the release while Miss CA did. You'll note where I said the photos were "definitely more salacious in Williams's case".

Just clarifying. Don't get your thong all in a bunch.

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Just clarifying. Don't get your thong all in a bunch.


Dr. Funk is a cross-dresser?!

:eek: :eek: :eek:


:lol:

[Dr. Funkenstein]

There are two arguments here. One is whether she violated the terms of her contract. It appears that she did. The other is what prompted the investigation to begin with. Or is it standard practice to investigate the runner up of a beauty pageant?

Doesn't matter. Is a person less guilty of speeding because the officer was looking to nail someone with an Cowboys bumper sticker? No.

Clinton was impeached for lying to a grand jury because he lied about a ******* so his wife wouldn't find out, which he did because Ken Starr couldn't find a damn thing to nail him on Whitewater. To the best of my knowledge, every Clinton detractor points out the first part and says the second and third parts are irrelevant, when the reality is that he never would have had to testify if Starr didn't have such an axe to grind against him.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Just clarifying. Don't get your thong all in a bunch.

Hey...don't knock it till you tried it ;)

Commence every single poster who's seen my picture losing their breakfast in 3....2....1...

[FoxGranadaChuck]

Hey...don't knock it till you tried it ;)

Commence every single poster who's seen my picture losing their breakfast in 3....2....1...


Thanks, but no thanks.....

[JimGP20]

http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?p=54295691#post54295691



I've been pretty consistent to note this.

Yes, I see that. My point is, that the only reason that these photos were ever dug up, is to find something to smear her because of her answer in the pageant. If she had kissed Paris Hilton's ass, none of this would have ever surfaced. Same thing with her breast augmentation surgery. Even without her acknowledging the photos, none of this would have ever seen the light of day. The press is out to get her for one reason only.

[MrShotShot]

Yes, I see that. My point is, that the only reason that these photos were ever dug up, is to find something to smear her because of her answer in the pageant. If she had kissed Paris Hilton's ass, none of this would have ever surfaced. Same thing with her breast augmentation surgery. Even without her acknowledging the photos, none of this would have ever seen the light of day. The press is out to get her for one reason only.

Well from what I've seen, if those photos are objectionable, then the JC Penney catalogue needs to be put behind the counter with Hustler and Penthouse.

And again, unless it's something humerous like the woman last year, when at any point has the media taken such interest in how a runner up in a beauty pageant answered a question? Very few people even care who winds the damned thing, much less who was runner up.

[PeterGriffin]

Well, if the laws of physics and internet tradition hold up, then there is a sex tape not far behind.

(surreptitious cheesecake pics x overwrought piety)/ jailbait^2=sex tape coming soon

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Yes, I see that. My point is, that the only reason that these photos were ever dug up, is to find something to smear her because of her answer in the pageant. If she had kissed Paris Hilton's ass, none of this would have ever surfaced. Same thing with her breast augmentation surgery. Even without her acknowledging the photos, none of this would have ever seen the light of day. The press is out to get her for one reason only.

http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=54299851&postcount=85

[Safiel]

It comes down to this.

Unless YOUR HOUSE is 100% clean and pure, you would be strongly advised not to judge anybody else's house in any way.

She is just learning a lesson a bunch of hypocrite preachers have already learned.

Judge not, lest you be judged.

[Buffalo]

Well from what I've seen, if those photos are objectionable, then the JC Penney catalogue needs to be put behind the counter with Hustler and Penthouse.

And again, unless it's something humerous like the woman last year, when at any point has the media taken such interest in how a runner up in a beauty pageant answered a question? Very few people even care who winds the damned thing, much less who was runner up.
Pre enhancement pics showing off the puppies on TMZ. Not JC Penney material for sure. And in this day and age, you take a topless pic and get in the news, they'll emerge.

Side note example, Rhianna (pop star) and Cassie (another pop star) photos all over the web last week (nude personal pics).

[JimGP20]

http://forums.hannity.com/showpost.php?p=54299851&postcount=85

Yes, yes... I get all that, but you said that if she had come forward before the pageant with those photos that "we would not be having this conversation." I am saying that we STILL wouldn't be having this conversation even WITH the undisclosed photos if she had given the answer that Paris Hilton wanted to hear. The digging to uncover those photos would never have taken place. I'm not saying she's innocent, I'm saying that the reason this is even an issue is because of liberal bias in the press.

[JimGP20]

It comes down to this.

Unless YOUR HOUSE is 100% clean and pure, you would be strongly advised not to judge anybody else's house in any way.

She is just learning a lesson a bunch of hypocrite preachers have already learned.

Judge not, lest you be judged.

She didn't judge anyone. She gave a personal opinion.

[johnrocks]

It comes down to this.

Unless YOUR HOUSE is 100% clean and pure, you would be strongly advised not to judge anybody else's house in any way.

She is just learning a lesson a bunch of hypocrite preachers have already learned.

Judge not, lest you be judged.

Great post!

[johnrocks]

She didn't judge anyone. She gave a personal opinion.

He's not talking about her Jim.

[JimGP20]

He's not talking about her Jim.

Then who is the "she" he is referring to?

[Pudge]

She didn't judge anyone. She gave a personal opinion.

She joined an activist group and decided to campaign against same-sex marriage. I think that takes it a step further than giving a personal opinion. It also violates her contract because she isn't supposed to be a political mouthpiece.

[JimGP20]

She joined an activist group and decided to campaign against same-sex marriage. I think that takes it a step further than giving a personal opinion. It also violates her contract because she isn't supposed to be a political mouthpiece.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b123395_donald_trump_rules_carrie_prejean_will.htm l

"I would like to thank the thousands of Americans who have sent letters, sent emails, messages...I cannot count the number of fan mail I have received in the past three weeks of people expressing their support to me," she said, choking back tears. "They have confided in me that they have found hope and inspiration in my story.
"Most importantly, I would like to thank God for trusting me with this large task and giving me the strength to stand by my beliefs."
And while she dismissed the recent spate of leaked topless photos as one-off poses, Photoshopped snaps and otherwise unknowing outtakes from a surf magazine shoot, she did spend some time explaining the other alleged violation of her Miss California contract—lobbying against same-sex marriages.
"Being at the center of a media firestorm is not something I had planned or signed up for," she said. "Let me be clear, I am not an activist, nor do I have a personal agenda.
"I was thrown into this firestorm from the time I was asked the question on stage…The President of the United States, the Secretary of State, and many Americans agree with me," she said.
And while she went on to admit that she has "become an advocate of not redefining marriage," she will continue to do so without ties to any particular organization.
"I am not working for the National Organization for Marriage. I spent about an hour with them," she said.
"I am not going to be speaking out against same-sex marriage. I'm going to resume my duties as Miss California, but also stay true to my personal beliefs. We will see how we will balance the two.
"I want to reaffirm my commitment to Miss California USA."



I don't think you're correct.

[Pudge]

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b123395_donald_trump_rules_carrie_prejean_will.htm l




I don't think you're correct.

If that's the case, then I stand duly corrected.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Yes, yes... I get all that, but you said that if she had come forward before the pageant with those photos that "we would not be having this conversation." I am saying that we STILL wouldn't be having this conversation even WITH the undisclosed photos if she had given the answer that Paris Hilton wanted to hear. The digging to uncover those photos would never have taken place. I'm not saying she's innocent, I'm saying that the reason this is even an issue is because of liberal bias in the press.

Seriously...stop making me repeat myself...;)

Again...if Ms. Prejean had acknowledged there were semi-nude photos of her, she'd still just be the runner-up for Miss USA who lost because a ********* judge had a political axe to grind.

[JimGP20]

Seriously...stop making me repeat myself...;)


Are you just intentionally missing my point? :think:

Anyway, given that the Trumpster has said she won't lose her title, it's all moot.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Are you just intentionally missing my point? :think:

Anyway, given that the Trumpster has said she won't lose her title, it's all moot.

Unless I'm reading it wrong...your point is that she wouldn't have been "investigated" at all if she had said she was okay with gay marriage, or something to that effect (that was what I meant when I brought up the ********* judge with the political axe to grind).

I agree with you. That's what I've been trying to get across...I just didn't want to re-post everything I've been saying on the matter.

[Liability]

Most of you are old enough to remember Vanessa L. Williams and her reign as Miss America... she received hate mail and death threats, not for her political affiliations but for her color. She lost the title too due to the same types of pictures. What makes Prejean better?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_L._Williams#Pageants_and_Miss_America_titl e

I love the hypocrisy...


Oh nonsense. Sometimes the snow comes down in June. Sometimes (as in all the time) Canuck liberoidals offer disinformation.

Ms. Williams did not get badly treated because of race. What a completely baseless claim THAT is.

Instead, the lesbian-simulation nude photography had something to do with. That is, it had absolutely EVERYTHING to do with it. That and nothing more.

And those images were damn suggestive, too. To make sure, I had to keep checking on them at the time. :)