Does this make me a Racist? [Archive] - Sean Hannity Discussion

CaptC

May 5th, 2009, 8:28 pm

BillyBobUSA

May 5th, 2009, 8:57 pm

Everybody is always talking "Race" when they are actually referring to SKIN COLOR.

People also mistake NATIONALITY for Race. MEXICAN is a Nationality - AFRICAN is a Nationality - AFRICAN-AMERICAN is a Nationality - IRISH/IRISH-AMERICAN - ITALIAN/ITALIAN-AMERICAN........more Nationalities!!

Think about it, people -- we all use the "race card" for such things as genetics, cultural differences, etc.

WELL, I'VE GOT NEWS FOR YOU !!! We are ALL the SAME RACE !!

I don't care what your nationality, or skin color is: we are ALL members of the HUMAN RACE !!

It's about time we wake up and realize this simple fact!

Does this make me a racist?

Um, if you have to ask then the answer is yes for most of the PC element.

/sarcasm

I agree with you.

Today reason has absolutely nothing to do with racial issues. The superficiality of race biologically has been well proven for decades now and yet we still have laws at all levels of government that classify people by this outmoded categorization.

All this affermative action stuff today is just political patronage payoff to the black community for voting 95%+ for the Democratic party every election and no, you cant even discuss it without being branded a racist or a race baiter.

ThrowCop

May 5th, 2009, 9:01 pm

Race is different than species.

But you do have a point.

CaptC

May 5th, 2009, 9:16 pm

Race is different than species.

But you do have a point.
species differences: Human, canine(dog), felis(cat), simian(monkey/ape)

So.......what was your point?

2Parties1GlobalistGoal

May 5th, 2009, 9:22 pm

If I said Yes I'd get a timeout so No.

CaptC

May 5th, 2009, 9:30 pm

If I said Yes I'd get a timeout so No.
Under the circumstances quoted in this thread, I'd say we are ALL racists.

ThrowCop

May 5th, 2009, 9:41 pm

species differences: Human, canine(dog), felis(cat), simian(monkey/ape)

So.......what was your point?My point is "human" is a species and yes we are all a part of that but "race" is a subset that we use to distinguish ourselves within that species.

CID_0687

May 5th, 2009, 9:46 pm

Anybody got a copy of that .gif image that DarthBush use to use? Y'all know the one.

I agree with the OP.

TexasGreatGranny

May 5th, 2009, 9:54 pm

No you are not a racist but some time skin color is an excuse for being called racist...therefore it gets bandied about a lot. Like I say Obama got elected and is coddled by the left because he is black. I am not a racist, they are because they use his skin color as an excuse to ok what ever he says or does. If you disagree with him you are a racist. so Racism is not easy. Whats racism to me may not be to someone else. Affirmative action is racism in action, there are many other similar things that go on in this world in the name of civil rights, none the less they are racist. Giving Black people advantages when trying to get into college, giving a all but free education to illegal aliens...those are racist actions.

Seanachie

May 5th, 2009, 9:57 pm

I'm of the mindset that there are very few 'Racists' in this world. It takes power and resources to be a racist in order to facilitate an outcome which alters or eliminates the existence of any Race. The Holocaust is the prime example amongst others that are of great importance to the greater 'collective mindset' of the entire Human Race.

I believe that bigotry is the larger issue; by those who form a collective of bigots to produce a 'Racist' leader. From those who facilitate and help in carrying out what amounts to genocide; to the every day bigot who pretty much hates everyone in general. WWII Germany is the prime example in the former and I'm sure we know or know of someone who fits in the latter. One would think the Human Race would have learned its collective lesson from the horrors of the Holocaust alone.

Unfortunately, this is not true; Genocide has and will continue to bare its ugly murdering face; masked by the sweet words of those who have a much larger agenda to achieve. The only goal of a Racist is to pave an inextricable path to hell. Misery loves company and those who empower a Racist by enabling him/her through their own bigotry will march in lock-step right along that very same path.

To answer the OP's rhetorical question. No

ThrowCop

May 5th, 2009, 10:01 pm

Anybody got a copy of that .gif image that DarthBush use to use? Y'all know the one.

I agree with the OP.I have it but it's oversized & I am treading on thin ice as it is here lately...

:angel:

sgdp

May 5th, 2009, 10:09 pm

I can't read the OP. :eek:

CID_0687

May 5th, 2009, 10:11 pm

I have it but it's oversized & I am treading on thin ice as it is here lately...

:angel:
Dammit man!

ThrowCop

May 5th, 2009, 10:25 pm

Dammit man!:))

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm264/HFORSTER_JUGGALO/thats_racist.gif

CID_0687

May 5th, 2009, 10:35 pm

:))

Chuangtzu

May 5th, 2009, 10:41 pm

Race is different than species.

But you do have a point.

Not really, though. African is not a nationality.

Chuangtzu

May 5th, 2009, 10:44 pm

Everybody is always talking "Race" when they are actually referring to SKIN COLOR.

People also mistake NATIONALITY for Race. MEXICAN is a Nationality - AFRICAN is a Nationality - AFRICAN-AMERICAN is a Nationality - IRISH/IRISH-AMERICAN - ITALIAN/ITALIAN-AMERICAN........more Nationalities!!

Think about it, people -- we all use the "race card" for such things as genetics, cultural differences, etc.

WELL, I'VE GOT NEWS FOR YOU !!! We are ALL the SAME RACE !!

I don't care what your nationality, or skin color is: we are ALL members of the HUMAN RACE !!

It's about time we wake up and realize this simple fact!

Does this make me a racist?

Racial delineations follow common phenotypical expressions, including skin color, epicanthic folds, nasal shape, facial neotony (esp. with regard to Asians) and facial bone structure.

Race, as a classification system, adheres generally to these common sets of phenotypes.

Race, as a social construct, is far more fluid, especially in nations where race laws codified racial distinctions per flesh tone.

ThrowCop

May 5th, 2009, 10:45 pm

Not really, though. African is not a nationality.An overall point. I wasn't going to get too specific.

Chuangtzu

May 5th, 2009, 10:48 pm

An overall point. I wasn't going to get too specific.

I still disagree. There are continental distinctions, arising from millenia of population separation, which reinforce real phenotypical differences (despite the lack of genetic diversity, especially compared to other mammals).

A man from Ghana is rather apparently different from a man from Vietnam.

ChaosControl

May 5th, 2009, 10:56 pm

I'm a racist.

The human race sucks.
:)

ThrowCop

May 5th, 2009, 10:59 pm

I still disagree. There are continental distinctions, arising from millenia of population separation, which reinforce real phenotypical differences (despite the lack of genetic diversity, especially compared to other mammals).

A man from Ghana is rather apparently different from a man from Vietnam.Entirely true. I was referring more to the point of people equating mere geographical origin of birth as a race.

Samm

May 6th, 2009, 12:01 am

OldBuzzard

May 6th, 2009, 2:04 am

To the OP.

If you are a Conservative, then YES, you ARE a racist. Just ask any LIEbural.

If however, you are a LIEbural, then you are NOT a racist, even if you were a high ranking member *cough*"Sheets Byrd"*cough* of the KKK. .

BillyBobUSA

May 6th, 2009, 8:49 am

My point is "human" is a species and yes we are all a part of that but "race" is a subset that we use to distinguish ourselves within that species.

A subset that has no scientific basis at all.

Gray

May 6th, 2009, 8:54 am

No, but your aversion of the default font is going to make people hate you. ;)

Very much of that and he goes on ignore. That font is hard to read.

BillyBobUSA

May 6th, 2009, 8:54 am

I'm of the mindset that there are very few 'Racists' in this world. It takes power and resources to be a racist in order to facilitate an outcome which alters or eliminates the existence of any Race. The Holocaust is the prime example amongst others that are of great importance to the greater 'collective mindset' of the entire Human Race.

So some neoNazi kookball isnt a racist becaue he doesnt have power to put it into effect?

I disagree.

I believe that bigotry is the larger issue; by those who form a collective of bigots to produce a 'Racist' leader. From those who facilitate and help in carrying out what amounts to genocide; to the every day bigot who pretty much hates everyone in general. WWII Germany is the prime example in the former and I'm sure we know or know of someone who fits in the latter. One would think the Human Race would have learned its collective lesson from the horrors of the Holocaust alone.

Unfortunately, this is not true; Genocide has and will continue to bare its ugly murdering face; masked by the sweet words of those who have a much larger agenda to achieve. The only goal of a Racist is to pave an inextricable path to hell. Misery loves company and those who empower a Racist by enabling him/her through their own bigotry will march in lock-step right along that very same path.

To answer the OP's rhetorical question. No

I agree with most of this except the pave the road to hell part.

There are a lot of otherwise nice decent folks who are died-in-the-wool racists. They say even Hitler was a very likeable fellow who got along incredibly well with children and pets.

But the racism itself, which dehumanises some or almost all of humanity, is an evil of the sort that negates all other good a person may do or want to do.

Buffalo

May 6th, 2009, 9:28 am

ThrowCop

May 6th, 2009, 9:50 am

A subset that has no scientific basis at all.Sure it does. Classifying people via their DNA is not altogether difficult.

I'm not saying it matters much, but "racial classification" does have science behind it.

angelicmadrigal

May 6th, 2009, 10:00 am

People also mistake NATIONALITY for Race. MEXICAN is a Nationality - AFRICAN is a Nationality - AFRICAN-AMERICAN is a Nationality - IRISH/IRISH-AMERICAN - ITALIAN/ITALIAN-AMERICAN........more Nationalities!!

You're wrong on a lot of these. African American, Irish American, Italian American are ETHNICITIES. NATIONALITY refers to the country where you have your citizenship. African is not a nationality because Africa is NOT a country. Irish and Mexican are nationalities.

Nationality= deals with your country of citizenship
Ethnicity= what cultural group you identify yourself as belonging to

Seanachie

May 6th, 2009, 10:01 am

So some neoNazi kookball isnt a racist becaue he doesnt have power to put it into effect?

I disagree.

Actually neoNazi's are very limited by German Law from having that kind of power for very good reasons which I pointed out. Those Laws probably wouldn't withstand muster to Constitutional challenges in the United States without an amendment to our Constitution.

We do have State and Federal Laws however which have addressed 'Hate Crimes' based on crimes using racial epithets in their commission. These have passed Constitutional challenges.

Just because a group uses the term neoNazi doesn't give them any power in their bigotry whatsoever. Quite the opposite is true in Germany for very good reason.

I suppose I was merely trying to point out the difference between Racism and Bigotry. Your reference to neoNazi's appears to give credence to my 'theory' in that their power is indeed limited and has resulted in long prison sentences for their emulation of their all to real Nazi predecessors. They were the ultimate Racists in our times. These are no more than common Bigots using a scary title. They lack and are prevented by Law, from having the resources necessary to achieve the dubious status of obtaining the ability to be Racists.

Can concerted bigotry efforts lead to Racism? Of course it can, and has, and will; if we are willing to stand by and do nothing to stop it. If History is not learned or ignored; the Human Race tends to repeat it over and over.

Be well,

Jim

angelicmadrigal

May 6th, 2009, 10:09 am

A subset that has no scientific basis at all.

It's a social construct, more than it is anything else. However, anthropologists mostly agree that humans have adapted differently both socially and biologically depending on their environment, though those adaptations are subtle such as the existence of more skin pigmentation, or hair texture, etc....

It is natural and normal for human beings to separate themselves into the categories "those like me" and "those not like me".

Race= those that look like me
Ethnicity= those that share the same culture as me
Nationality=those with the same national identity as me

These three constructs evolved from the human need to categorize oneself (or his/her group) in relation to others. I don't think humanity has evolved beyond the point where such categorizing is comfortable, and necessary. For example race can be useful as a descriptor when physically describing a person, and in certain conversations Nationality and Ethnicity can be useful descriptors. Using those terms does not necessarily imply any prejudice, what matters is the context and the purpose for the usage.

ThrowCop

May 6th, 2009, 10:12 am

It's a social construct, more than it is anything else. However, anthropologists mostly agree that humans have adapted differently both socially and biologically depending on their environment, though those adaptations are subtle such as the existence of more skin pigmentation, or hair texture, etc....

It is natural and normal for human beings to separate themselves into the categories "those like me" and "those not like me".

Race= those that look like me
Ethnicity= those that share the same culture as me
Nationality=those with the same national identity as me

These three constructs evolved from the human need to categorize oneself (or his/her group) in relation to others.Excellent post. Concise & on the money.

Seanachie

May 6th, 2009, 4:04 pm

I agree with most of this except the pave the road to hell part.

There are a lot of otherwise nice decent folks who are died-in-the-wool racists. They say even Hitler was a very likeable fellow who got along incredibly well with children and pets.

But the racism itself, which dehumanises some or almost all of humanity, is an evil of the sort that negates all other good a person may do or want to do.

On the road to hell....you've never heard the term; 'Hell on Earth' or 'Life is a living Hell'?

"Otherwise nice decent folks" don't practice bigotry to achieve Racism. Using the word 'Decent' in this context is no more than a justification for petty evil and an oxymoron.

Evil is evil no matter how petty or dastardly one applies it. Does your last paragraph in the quote describe those "otherwise nice decent folks' despite the evil of bigotry or racism they practice or hope to practice?

Methinks these so called 'decent' folks know the answer even as they desperately despise the outcome of that answer.

Be well,

Jim

captusa

May 6th, 2009, 7:42 pm

Everybody is always talking "Race" when they are actually referring to SKIN COLOR.

People also mistake NATIONALITY for Race. MEXICAN is a Nationality - AFRICAN is a Nationality - AFRICAN-AMERICAN is a Nationality - IRISH/IRISH-AMERICAN - ITALIAN/ITALIAN-AMERICAN........more Nationalities!!

Think about it, people -- we all use the "race card" for such things as genetics, cultural differences, etc.

WELL, I'VE GOT NEWS FOR YOU !!! We are ALL the SAME RACE !!

I don't care what your nationality, or skin color is: we are ALL members of the HUMAN RACE !!

It's about time we wake up and realize this simple fact!

Does this make me a racist?

Africa no matter what Sarah Palin thinks, Africa is not a country so African can not be a nationality.
And of course John Kerry's wife and Heinz heiress is an African-American since she was born in South Africa.
BTW I totally agree that the only meaningful racial identificationis human race.

captusa

May 6th, 2009, 7:51 pm

........There are a lot of otherwise nice decent folks who are died-in-the-wool racists. They say even Hitler was a very likeable fellow who got along incredibly well with children and pets.
.......

And he could dance the pants off of Churchill.
He was also a better painter than Churchill.
4 rooms 2 coats in a day.

Seanachie

May 6th, 2009, 10:50 pm

And he could dance the pants off of Churchill.
He was also a better painter than Churchill.
4 rooms 2 coats in a day.

You're quite right... this dubious man was indeed the gifted dancer. He was also a very good painter. Churchill had the advantage of being able to hire men of this sort.

Churchill could also drink him under the table with Scotch and had the ability, with our help, to defeat him in the rotten game of war.

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on". > Winston Churchill

The following link on YouTube contains an Irish song performed by two of my favorite Irish Troubadours and is titled 'The Liar'. Any time I hear of that dubious man from Germany; this song comes to mind. The last verse makes reference to that dubious man and a few others of some distinction. I find a wee bit of farcical comedy anytime I listen to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXQ_hz3wZdo&feature=related

Enjoy if you can,

Jim

BillyBobUSA

May 6th, 2009, 11:15 pm

Sure it does. Classifying people via their DNA is not altogether difficult.

I'm not saying it matters much, but "racial classification" does have science behind it.

The term 'race' used to mean about the same thing as 'ethnicity' does today and there was a lot of racial prejudice between different ethnicities. Benjamin Franklin, for example, considered the German immigration into Pennsylvania to be a bad thing as he did not regard Germans as 'white' and thought them less intelligent and thiifty than most Anglos.

If you look at the transition of skin tone from the equator to the poles, it is darker in the tropics and gradually lightens toward the polar areas. The Han chinese of northern China and the Japanese and Koreans were considered by 19th century racial theorists to be 'white' due to the lightness of the skin, and interracial offspring between caucasians and orientals was considered caucasian and still is, while a cross of caucasian and negroid is considered negroid.

The only reason the lightest skin toned northern Europeans became more racial in their categorizations of human beings than most cultures was that the contrast in every measure between the educated, middle class, Christian Euroepans as opposed to the generally illiterate, agrarian peasant back ground slaves was so severe.

The gradual changes of race from Bantu to berber to Arab to Egyptian to Eastern mediteraneans and then to the olive skinned 'whites' was totally skipped in the 16th to 19th centurys and it seemed as though two completely and utterly different races were involved in the slave trade.

But whatever.

It does not matter what the science facts are; the government classifies us by race and we will never shake our racial divisions as long as it does so.

BillyBobUSA

May 6th, 2009, 11:19 pm

On the road to hell....you've never heard the term; 'Hell on Earth' or 'Life is a living Hell'?

"Otherwise nice decent folks" don't practice bigotry to achieve Racism. Using the word 'Decent' in this context is no more than a justification for petty evil and an oxymoron.

Evil is evil no matter how petty or dastardly one applies it. Does your last paragraph in the quote describe those "otherwise nice decent folks' despite the evil of bigotry or racism they practice or hope to practice?

Methinks these so called 'decent' folks know the answer even as they desperately despise the outcome of that answer.

Be well,

Jim

I have known some hard-working honest people who would give you the shirt off their backs if they thought you needed it who simply hold deep prejudices against other races. For some it was how they were raised, for others bad experiences with minorities of one kind or another.

I dont think that holding these kinds of prejudice damns one to hell all of its own irrespective of all other good one might do in ones life. But racism does as it justifies dehumanising people intellectually.

But the simple bigots do have some moral issues to work out and most are moving in the right direction I think.

CaptC

May 7th, 2009, 12:44 am

My point is "human" is a species

Actually, the species is: homosapien.

and yes we are all a part of that

Thank you for your agreement.

but "race" is a subset that we use to distinguish ourselves within that species.

Sorry, I don't buy that because HUMAN is the only "race" I recognize.

CaptC

May 7th, 2009, 12:54 am

Not really, though. African is not a nationality.
Well, South African.

CaptC

May 7th, 2009, 12:55 am

Entirely true. I was referring more to the point of people equating mere geographical origin of birth as a race.

Exactly my Point!

Seanachie

May 7th, 2009, 12:59 am

I have known some hard-working honest people who would give you the shirt off their backs if they thought you needed it who simply hold deep prejudices against other races. For some it was how they were raised, for others bad experiences with minorities of one kind or another.

I dont think that holding these kinds of prejudice damns one to hell all of its own irrespective of all other good one might do in ones life. But racism does as it justifies dehumanising people intellectually.

But the simple bigots do have some moral issues to work out and most are moving in the right direction I think.

I am deeply prejudiced to those who are drug dealers or users who make them rich. I am deeply prejudiced to those who break our laws with impunity. I know of many people from Cities and here where I live who have deep prejudice towards those who prey upon them. I'm quite sure that every Human Being has some type of prejudice in their hearts and minds for whatever reason that prejudice was ingrained upon them.

Graduating to bigotry and Racism from prejudice is quite a different story when applied to an entire group of people when a few bad apples in that same group are those who ingrained that prejudice in one's consciousness to start the ball rolling.

Racism is meant to decimate or destroy an entire group of people. There is nothing more dehumanizing than murdering one or more of this group. I don't find any intellectual dehumanizing in murder except to those who survive their purported extermination.

One needs to believe that 'Hell' exists to imagine arriving there. My reference to hell is no more than anecdotal in my descriptions as to evil we sometimes encounter every day in various forms and where that evil can lead. I'll make a mental note to refrain from using this anecdotal phrase in the future lest my words take on any meaning as to Biblical consequences. Perhaps 'paving the path to destruction' is a better way of using a descriptor that is a bit more palatable.

I suppose that only God knows what offense against Him would damn one to Hell. Doesn't matter one iota if one believes in God or whether Hell exists if they find themselves in that place of eternal damnation. They'll get there either way regardless of how it was earned if God does indeed exist.

Be well,

Jim

CaptC

May 7th, 2009, 1:00 am

Sure it does. Classifying people via their DNA is not altogether difficult.

I'm not saying it matters much, but "racial classification" does have science behind it.

If you substitute "genetic classification" for "racial classification" then you are one step closer to truth and one step further away from "political correctness"

CaptC

May 7th, 2009, 1:02 am

Substitute the word BIGOTRY for the word RACISM and then you become closer to truth.

BillyBobUSA

May 7th, 2009, 8:15 am

I am deeply prejudiced to those who are drug dealers or users who make them rich. I am deeply prejudiced to those who break our laws with impunity. I know of many people from Cities and here where I live who have deep prejudice towards those who prey upon them. I'm quite sure that every Human Being has some type of prejudice in their hearts and minds for whatever reason that prejudice was ingrained upon them.

Graduating to bigotry and Racism from prejudice is quite a different story when applied to an entire group of people when a few bad apples in that same group are those who ingrained that prejudice in one's consciousness to start the ball rolling.

Racism is meant to decimate or destroy an entire group of people. There is nothing more dehumanizing than murdering one or more of this group. I don't find any intellectual dehumanizing in murder except to those who survive their purported extermination.

One needs to believe that 'Hell' exists to imagine arriving there. My reference to hell is no more than anecdotal in my descriptions as to evil we sometimes encounter every day in various forms and where that evil can lead. I'll make a mental note to refrain from using this anecdotal phrase in the future lest my words take on any meaning as to Biblical consequences. Perhaps 'paving the path to destruction' is a better way of using a descriptor that is a bit more palatable.

I suppose that only God knows what offense against Him would damn one to Hell. Doesn't matter one iota if one believes in God or whether Hell exists if they find themselves in that place of eternal damnation. They'll get there either way regardless of how it was earned if God does indeed exist.

Be well,

Jim

I agree with most of that, but I want to make a distinction between 'bigot' and 'racist'.

A bigot is simply a person whose prejudices color his view of other people. He might also be a racist, but not necesarily and most of the people I would consider a bigot are not racist.

Racists, on the other hand, are people who have a system of values that justifies treating people differently by law and would deny basic human rights to other races of people or worse.

I think that is a big difference and so I dont use the terms interchangably like you seem to be doing.

shaveking

May 7th, 2009, 8:29 am

MEXICAN is a Nationality - AFRICAN is a Nationality - AFRICAN-AMERICAN is a Nationality - IRISH/IRISH-AMERICAN - ITALIAN/ITALIAN-AMERICAN........more Nationalities!! No, no, no. Mexican, African, Italian, etc are ethnicities in this context. "American" is the only nationality you mentioned. Race is above ethnicity and is limited to Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid.

Seanachie

May 7th, 2009, 9:01 am

I agree with most of that, but I want to make a distinction between 'bigot' and 'racist'.

A bigot is simply a person whose prejudices color his view of other people. He might also be a racist, but not necesarily and most of the people I would consider a bigot are not racist.

Racists, on the other hand, are people who have a system of values that justifies treating people differently by law and would deny basic human rights to other races of people or worse.

I think that is a big difference and so I dont use the terms interchangably like you seem to be doing.

Actually I think I've made the distinction quite clear. Everyday Bigots are a dime a dozen. Racists are rare in that they have the money and resources to act on their twisted beliefs or so called 'values'. The difference between the two is vast and naming a Bigot a Racist simply tarnishes the word 'racist' to meaningless dribble.

One who is in a position to author laws to further 'Racist Values' certainly has the power to force that racism onto others. Thankfully, our Constitution's checks and balances negate that but it took a civil war and amendments to achieve that goal. A Dictator whom is a Racist would have no such restraints.

I hope this makes the distinction between my use of the two words a bit clearer.

Be well,

Jim

angelicmadrigal

May 7th, 2009, 9:04 am

No, no, no. Mexican, African, Italian, etc are ethnicities in this context. "American" is the only nationality you mentioned. Race is above ethnicity and is limited to Caucasoid, Mongoloid, and Negroid.

It helps if you explain WHY, if you refer back to my post I already did that.

Samm

May 7th, 2009, 4:31 pm

Not really, though. African is not a nationality.

An overall point. I wasn't going to get too specific.

The substitute of the word "African" to define a race is due to Political Correctness deeming the correct word, Negroid, as racist.

Come to think of it, of the three major recognized races only Caucasoid is still politically correct. Why do you suppose that is? :think:

shaveking

May 7th, 2009, 5:39 pm

Come to think of it, of the three major recognized races only Caucasoid is still politically correct. Why do you suppose that is? :think:Caucasians haven't yet twisted their own racial identifier to be used in a racist context.

CaptC

May 8th, 2009, 12:09 am

I see people posting here with their narrow minded views mixing nationality, and/or genetics with race.

I'm sorry I started this now. Nobody seems to get the real gist of my OP.

JenyEliza

May 8th, 2009, 12:38 am

Here's the .gif:

Chuangtzu

May 8th, 2009, 1:51 am

The substitute of the word "African" to define a race is due to Political Correctness deeming the correct word, Negroid, as racist.

Come to think of it, of the three major recognized races only Caucasoid is still politically correct. Why do you suppose that is? :think:

It wasn't a correct word. It was one taxonomist's word. And he had an odd way of defying the more major phenotypical race groups:

1. Mongoloid.
2. Australoid.
3. Negroid.
4. Caucasian.

Guess which group to which he belonged?

The prior three had names changed because they were charged with the British racism of the period, being the "lesser" and "brown or yellow" races.

The groupings are still widely accepted. Victorian naming precedents, not so much.

CaptC

May 8th, 2009, 12:01 pm

(from Wikipedia)

The term race or racial group usually refers to the categorization of humans (http://forums.hannity.com/wiki/Human) into populations (http://forums.hannity.com/wiki/Population) or groups (http://forums.hannity.com/wiki/Group_(sociology)) on the basis of various sets of heritable (http://forums.hannity.com/wiki/Heritable) characteristics. The most widely used human racial categories (http://forums.hannity.com/wiki/Taxonomy) are based on salient traits (http://forums.hannity.com/wiki/Trait_(biological)) (especially skin color (http://forums.hannity.com/wiki/Skin_color), cranial (http://forums.hannity.com/wiki/Cranium) or facial features (http://forums.hannity.com/wiki/Face) and hair texture (http://forums.hannity.com/wiki/Hair)), and self-identification.

I guess that will finally put this thread to bed.