Star Trek 2009

[Dancer]

Some here are aware that I occasionally get the opportunity to view movies in advance and with that lead in, I got to view the new Star Trek movie in advance the other night.

I wanted to say (without giving any of the plot away) that the new Star Trek movie is the BEST movie I have seen in a long time and potentially the best science fiction film I have ever seen.

There were places I cried, I laughed, and in many places I was surprised. It was well acted, well scripted, the plot made sense and moved along. There were times that the battle scenes reminded me of the original Star Wars movies, but better (up to date). The graphics and makeup were excellent...I don't often want to see movies again, but I have already made plans to see it when it comes out. I missed some of the dialogue due to reactions from the audience. I was in a packed theater and no one was talking, but certain times laughter caused me to miss parts and other times, gasps did.

The movie can be followed by those who have never seen a Star Trek movie AND those who are Star Trek fans won't be bored because they know it all already. I know it is possible that I liked it so much because I wasn't expecting to. I walked into it thinking, "This has already been soooo done" and "I am going to probably fall asleep." The last movie that I came even close to liking this much was Iron Man and I didn't really want to see it again. I DID see it again, but it was so that other members of the family could see it. So much happened in this that I feel like I can't remember everything and I want to see if I catch things the second time that I missed the first time. I did NOT enjoy the last 4-5 Star Trek movies.

A point about the acting: Most actors get to 'create' a role. These actors didn't necessarily have that complete freedom. These actors were required to play a part that was already defined and make the audience see the original characters in them. They succeeded admirably!

[PredFan]

That's good news.

I've been a fan of Star Trek since it's beginning.

However, I'm a huge fan of sci-fi and calling it the best sci-fi I'VE ever seen would take a lot.

IMO, "Aliens" holds that title.

At any rate, I've been waiting to see it for months now.

[Dual867PowerMac]

Best sci-fi movie ever: Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back.

Best Trek movies: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country and Star Trek: First Contact.

The new one looks interesting.

[Mimiheart]

I need a sitter... O.o

[RogerDodger]

I've never been a huge fan of the Star Trek series, but I believe I'll check this one out.

I read this a few weeks ago. Don't remember if it was ever posted here.

American military troops in Kuwait got a surprise visit not only with cast members from "Star Trek XI," but a copy of the film to watch as well.

Director J.J. Abrams flew out with producer Bryan Burk as well as Zoe Saldana (Uhura), Karl Urban (McCoy), Zachary Quinto (Spock), Chris Pine (Kirk) and Eric Bana (Nero) Saturday to give troops there a treat only afforded to a handful of people in Australia and Texas so far.

"It's so easy for people to take for granted the fact that [service members] are here doing work that makes this possible," Abrams told military news. Cast and crew also posed for pictures with military personnel, made phone calls to family members and signed autographs.

"It struck us that there was an opportunity to not just have it be about the movie, but to have it be about something that's more important than all that stuff," Abrams said.

I know alot folks like to bash Hollywood, but I found that pretty impressive.

http://www.airlockalpha.com/news426258.html

[Dancer]

That's good news.

I've been a fan of Star Trek since it's beginning.

However, I'm a huge fan of sci-fi and calling it the best sci-fi I'VE ever seen would take a lot.

IMO, "Aliens" holds that title.

At any rate, I've been waiting to see it for months now.As with any recommendation, it is only MY opinion that it is 'the best'.

I rate it up there with the original Star Wars movies when they came out because the characters drew me in the same way. Even if you don't consider this movie 'the best,' as I do, it is still a very well done movie for the other reasons I stated.

A couple more things: A few diehard Star Trek fans who were present were upset at certain changes made to the characters. The changes made sense if you are paying attention to the plot development, but I would suggest NOT going into the movie expecting to see specific things about the original Star Trek plotline and characterization.

[Dancer]

At the end of the movie, people were waiting for names to come up on the screen to applaud them individually.

[PredFan]

Sounds good!

[OldSchoolConservative]

I have been a lifelong fan of TOS, TNG and DS9. And I slightly prefer TNG to TOS due to a lot of cheesiness of TOS-although TOS did have some masterful stories in season I. But there is no denying that the TOS based movies have been on a whole way more successful than TNG movies. And even though we have different actors portraying TOS characters I feel that people will still come to and be reaquainted with TOS characters that people love so dearly.

[GA_LP]

2 more weeks to wait - not soon enough.

[ThinkingMan]

I am also looking forward to seeing it. Someone critic jerk described it as Star Trek 90210. I was hoping this would not be the case.

[grapabeaux]

My first real acquaintenance with the Star Trek franchise was with TNG (too young to see TOS or the animated series firsthand), but I like all of them pretty equally, primarily for the storytelling and compelling characters. (For instance, whenever there's a marathon of TNG fan favorites, I'm the one watching Capt. Piccard live a lifetime in an ancient and lost civilization all in 25 minutes, rather than watching dueling phasers against the big buillion cube heading for earth.)

I've heard there's a scene at the open where young Kirk takes a sports car out for a reckless spin. From what I've read from the TOS geeks, Kirk supposedly didn't know how to drive a car. If the movie's good enough to overlook these kinds of contradictions - which I don't care about, but Trekkies might - then the movie will do just fine.

My fear is that this will be a reboot of the Star Trek series that, like the reboot of the James Bond series, the Batman series, or Superman series, will have little faith to the original. Because unlike the latter examples, much of the Star Trek legacy doesn't have much that needs revamping.

[Dancer]

My first real acquaintenance with the Star Trek franchise was with TNG (too young to see TOS or the animated series firsthand), but I like all of them pretty equally, primarily for the storytelling and compelling characters. (For instance, whenever there's a marathon of TNG fan favorites, I'm the one watching Capt. Piccard live a lifetime in an ancient and lost civilization all in 25 minutes, rather than watching dueling phasers against the big buillion cube heading for earth.)

I've heard there's a scene at the open where young Kirk takes a sports car out for a reckless spin. From what I've read from the TOS geeks, Kirk supposedly didn't know how to drive a car. If the movie's good enough to overlook these kinds of contradictions - which I don't care about, but Trekkies might - then the movie will do just fine.

My fear is that this will be a reboot of the Star Trek series that, like the reboot of the James Bond series, the Batman series, or Superman series, will have little faith to the original. Because unlike the latter examples, much of the Star Trek legacy doesn't have much that needs revamping.If I say anything it will give too much away and I want you to enjoy the movie. Let me just say that any changes you see, you should keep an open mind about until they are explained later in the movie.

[Groundhog]

I have a feeling this movie will permanently bury the Star Trek Franchise on tv after ENTERPRISE started digging the hole with the entire "Lets focus on making the show real hip to the 18-30 year old demographic!", and the continuity that was sculpted over decades of the past shows will be thrown out the window.

[Spiked101]

I am more inclined to agree with Groundhog here. I am not a huge Abrams fan and haven't liked what he has done thus far. I was a huge fan of TOS and did not care much for TNG or DS9 or Enterprise. To me, those characters, and the actors that portrayed them at the time are iconic. I just don't see new people in those rolls and I really have not been a fan of Abrams plots. I probably will not see this film.

[MrShotShot]

I have heard nothing but good reviews for this movie thus far - wait, I take that back, I have heard nothing but amazing reviews thus far.

Face it - Star Trek needed a reboot. It was a dead franchise that hadn't connected to a new generation (ahem) in almost 20 years.

Also, I think Abrams is one of the most creative guys in movies and TV right now and I knew he'd do a fantastic job with it while paying homage to the original.

Can't wait to see it.

[Dancer]

kobayashi maru

If I tell you all the things I love about it, then they can't surprise you in the movie and make you think. If I don't tell you, then you might not see the movie.

My choice: Better to chance you watching it on dvd and being surprised than ruining it.

[PyramidBuilder]

I thought that the trailer looked bad, but I'm surprised and pleased to see this one getting very good reviews and word of mouth. I'm more of a fan of a slightly less serious take on that universe (i.e. IV and VI) but I wouldn't mind a little backstory as long as they didn't go overboard.

And when anything too strange happens? "Parallel universe!"

[Chuangtzu]

That's good news.

I've been a fan of Star Trek since it's beginning.

However, I'm a huge fan of sci-fi and calling it the best sci-fi I'VE ever seen would take a lot.

IMO, "Aliens" holds that title.

At any rate, I've been waiting to see it for months now.

1. Serenity

2. Equilibrium

3. Gattaca/Aliens

4. Twelve Monkeys

5. Blade Runner

Honorable mention: E.T.

***

As for this one: taking my kids opening night. All the fan and critic reviews are glowing, and JJ Abrams has already demonstrated that he knows how to handle the genre (Lost, Cloverfield).

[James Juno]

It's befitting we all see the last episode of TOS before seeing the first:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVuxvJVdZQc

[TimeToRelax]

http://images.fandango.com/r80.8/ImageRenderer/375/375/nox.jpg/121755/images/masterrepository/fandango/121755/startrek-imax-poster.jpg

Star Trek: The IMAX Experience, digitally re-mastered into unparalleled image and sound quality through proprietary IMAX DMR® technology will play for a limited TWO-WEEK engagement.

Cinemark has now released tickets for the 2 week IMAX showing...

http://www.cinemark.com/imax.asp


From the trekmovie.com site, story and pictures from the Austin, Texas sneak World Premiere of the new STAR TREK, which occured on Monday, April 6th.

http://trekmovie.com/2009/04/06/austin-tx-fans-given-surprise-showing-of-entire-star-trek-movie/


http://trekmovie.com/2009/04/07/video-and-photos-from-surprise-star-trek-showing-in-austin-tx/

[texan_rep]

Dancer, I'm so jealous I could just smack you...:razz:

I've been waiting for only 2 movies this year. That's one of them.

[texan_rep]

Best sci-fi movie ever: Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back.

Best Trek movies: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country and Star Trek: First Contact.

The new one looks interesting.

Bite your tongue! :razz:

Best Trek movie: Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.

[Alaric]

Well, I've seen it now.

It doesn't quite live up to the hype. Its still good, and definitely better than the last few movies. But not as good as Khan. No where near it in fact.

And the attempts to weave in all the old cliches gets downright cheesy after a while.

Still, worth the see though.

[RedStatePaPa]

I took myself out to see this tonight so that I could see it without hearing all the hype/critics beforehand.

I really liked it.

Definitely worth the price of admission and a bag of popcorn.

[ISYairio]

Last night I saw Star Trek with Robin, Alex, and Garett. The amazing thing to me was how unimpressive Earth looks hundreds of years in the future. It looks like economic growth in the future has been well under 1% for a quarter millenium. :(

[ressurectedUltraSaiyanUSA]

nice.

star trek part 10000000000000000.

[MikeJF]

nice.

star trek part 10000000000000000.

It seems like there are a lot of Star Trek episodes but it seems that way with all the reruns. The original Star Trek was canceled after only three seasons, a total of 79 episodes. These are the classics that later Star Trek new series attempted to emulate, but never quite achieved in charm and quality.

Compare to "All In The Family" that lasted 9 seasons!

If you included all six Star Trek television series there are a total of 716 episodes.

[SabercatPuck]

My wife and I saw it last night, and are headded off in the morning to see it in Kirk's home state of Iowa (well he grew up there, but there would be debate on where he was born if he were running for president :) )

This time I will try to spot the tribble.
http://scifiwire.com/2009/04/dont-blink-we-unearth-a-f.php

[Zouave]

. . .
I did NOT enjoy the last 4-5 Star Trek movies. . ..


Then you are not a ST fan.

Will ST fans enjoy this? You have no way of knowing.

Are you aware the The Federation did not even know what a Romulan looked like until the Enterprise fought them in "The Balance of Terror" episode? So how can a Romulan be in this??

[Zouave]

It seems like there are a lot of Star Trek episodes but it seems that way with all the reruns. The original Star Trek was canceled after only three seasons, a total of 79 episodes. These are the classics that later Star Trek new series attempted to emulate, but never quite achieved in charm and quality.


Ridiculously wrong. ST/Next Generation was far superior in every way.

[ISYairio]

I've watched *counts*... 2 episodes, I think.

[RedStatePaPa]

Then you are not a ST fan.

Will ST fans enjoy this? You have no way of knowing.

Are you aware the The Federation did not even know what a Romulan looked like until the Enterprise fought them in "The Balance of Terror" episode? So how can a Romulan be in this??

You'll have to pony up and find out.

[Darkwind]

Some here are aware that I occasionally get the opportunity to view movies in advance and with that lead in, I got to view the new Star Trek movie in advance the other night.

I wanted to say (without giving any of the plot away) that the new Star Trek movie is the BEST movie I have seen in a long time and potentially the best science fiction film I have ever seen.

There were places I cried, I laughed, and in many places I was surprised. It was well acted, well scripted, the plot made sense and moved along. There were times that the battle scenes reminded me of the original Star Wars movies, but better (up to date). The graphics and makeup were excellent...I don't often want to see movies again, but I have already made plans to see it when it comes out. I missed some of the dialogue due to reactions from the audience. I was in a packed theater and no one was talking, but certain times laughter caused me to miss parts and other times, gasps did.

The movie can be followed by those who have never seen a Star Trek movie AND those who are Star Trek fans won't be bored because they know it all already. I know it is possible that I liked it so much because I wasn't expecting to. I walked into it thinking, "This has already been soooo done" and "I am going to probably fall asleep." The last movie that I came even close to liking this much was Iron Man and I didn't really want to see it again. I DID see it again, but it was so that other members of the family could see it. So much happened in this that I feel like I can't remember everything and I want to see if I catch things the second time that I missed the first time. I did NOT enjoy the last 4-5 Star Trek movies.

A point about the acting: Most actors get to 'create' a role. These actors didn't necessarily have that complete freedom. These actors were required to play a part that was already defined and make the audience see the original characters in them. They succeeded admirably!I've been a devout Trekkie since I was five. I sat with My dad and watched the very first episode when it aired and I've been watching ever since.

For those who are hard core Trekkie fans, you will soon learn why everything feels wrong right from the beginning. Other then that, I won't say anything more then they left a huge opening to continue the franchise.

As for the Special Effects, they kicked ass of course. With one notable exception.

The transporter affect sucked mule balls.

I liked who they chose for Uhura and McCoy. Scotty was okay and Checkov was a bit over the top.

All in all, a worthwhile movie to see and own.

[Darkwind]

As with any recommendation, it is only MY opinion that it is 'the best'.

I rate it up there with the original Star Wars movies when they came out because the characters drew me in the same way. Even if you don't consider this movie 'the best,' as I do, it is still a very well done movie for the other reasons I stated.

A couple more things: A few diehard Star Trek fans who were present were upset at certain changes made to the characters. The changes made sense if you are paying attention to the plot development, but I would suggest NOT going into the movie expecting to see specific things about the original Star Trek plotline and characterization.Yeah. I kept thinking to Myself as it was unfolding that "That isn't right" and "They screwed that up"....but then it begins to make sense and ties together nicely.

Not sure if I like the way they left it open to continue the franchise....but it is what it is.

[Darkwind]

Bite your tongue! :razz:

Best Trek movie: Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.
For the TOS, yes. For the TNG, I would say 'First Contact'.

[Darkwind]

You'll have to pony up and find out.
:)):)):twisted:

[SabercatPuck]

Are you aware the The Federation did not even know what a Romulan looked like until the Enterprise fought them in "The Balance of Terror" episode? So how can a Romulan be in this??
Yes I was, and I was a bit bugged by it going in, but I am OK with what happened. I am headding out in a couple minutes for my second ride this time in an IMAx

[Dancer]

Then you are not a ST fan.

Will ST fans enjoy this? You have no way of knowing.

Are you aware the The Federation did not even know what a Romulan looked like until the Enterprise fought them in "The Balance of Terror" episode? So how can a Romulan be in this??And yet, I went and saw every single one of them. To be a fan doesn't mean I have to like or agree with the way they develop a plot or think that if it says "Star Trek" it's the best thing since sliced bread.

The last couple of TOS movies seemed like they were pushing just to have a movie out. The first couple of TNG movies seemed very much like the television show two hour special. I tend to expect just a little more from the movies than I do from the TV shows.

I haven't claimed to be a "Trekkie". That doesn't mean I am not a fan. I don't sit and study every nuance of every story line to track the accuracy. If I were to do that, I could point out that James T. Kirk was actually James R. Kirk in the FIRST TOS episode. I seriously doubt that many Star Trek writers have spent sleepless nights over Trekkies who live to pick apart every episode and movie for accuracy. I am pretty certain they are more interested in creating an entertaining movie than in people who aren't going to be satisfied no matter what. In my opinion, it is your type of 'elitist fan' who causes the movies to get worse. Spending so much time picking it apart, you miss enjoying the fun.

Star Trek snobs...deliver us... :rolleyes:

[Chuangtzu]

Pitch perfect. Best movie I've seen in a very long time. My wife - who's no sci-fi fan at all - absolutely loved it. Character development, introduction, dialogue: all better than any previous ST ouvre.

[Chuangtzu]

Definitely going back for IMAX (since my oldest had City Year, and couldn't come with us today). Just perfect.

[ogibillm]

it lived up to every single one of my very high expectations. i saw it twice yesterday and i don't do that.

can't wait for the blu-ray and the eventual sequel.

[Chuangtzu]

it lived up to every single one of my very high expectations. i saw it twice yesterday and i don't do that.

can't wait for the blu-ray and the eventual sequel.

If my eldest wasn't shortly returning shortly from a trip to Boston, we'd probably have turned right around and watched it again.

It was seriously that entertaining (in every way).

[Dancer]

If my eldest wasn't shortly returning shortly from a trip to Boston, we'd probably have turned right around and watched it again.

It was seriously that entertaining (in every way).
I saw it again Thursday night. I want to go see it again tonight, but I have my nephew with me and my kids refuse to go see it, so we are probably going to see Monsters vs. Aliens instead. :(

I am willing to pay so I can go see it in IMAX, but I have to find an IMAX in the area where they are playing it.

[Chuangtzu]

I saw it again Thursday night. I want to go see it again tonight, but I have my nephew with me and my kids refuse to go see it, so we are probably going to see Monsters vs. Aliens instead. :(

That's good for the chilluns. Esp. in three dee, if you can handle the after-head ache.

I am willing to pay so I can go see it in IMAX, but I have to find an IMAX in the area where they are playing it.I luckily live within about three miles of a giant of an IMAX. Saw it in dolby dig, today. Will see it in IMAX. Brilliant, brilliant movie.

[curtis123]

Judging from the reviews in this thread, this just may be my first trip to the movie theater in several years.

[BillyBobUSA]

Best Sci-fi movie I have seen in a long time.

Wont spoil anything but there are explanations for all the perceived 'wrong' details, if you would just stop and think about it.

[ISYairio]

I think I'mma go see the 4:05 ($2.50 :P). :think:

Y'all make it sound soo good. :)

[ogibillm]

I think I'mma go see the 4:05 ($2.50 :P). :think:

Y'all make it sound soo good. :)

it'll be the best $2.50 you've spent at the theater in a long time.

[RedStatePaPa]

it lived up to every single one of my very high expectations. i saw it twice yesterday and i don't do that.

can't wait for the blu-ray and the eventual sequel.

Yep I had been waiting for this bad boy for a while.

It was excellent.

Is Uhura seven different kinds of delicious or what? :drool:

[ogibillm]

Yep I had been waiting for this bad boy for a while.

It was excellent.

Is Uhura seven different kinds of delicious or what? :drool:

maybe part of it was i went in with the idea that i'd be let down. i had high expectations and surely no movie could really live up to them.

but it did. or at least i thought. but then i thought maybe i was just riding the high of actually seeing the much anticipated movie.

so 10 hours later i went back, and had just as much fun the second time around.

and as for zoe saldana's uhura... damn! i do think it's funny to think that her previous film roles include the britany spears vehicle 'crossroads'

[ISYairio]

I liked it.

[Darkwind]

Best Sci-fi movie I have seen in a long time.

Wont spoil anything but there are explanations for all the perceived 'wrong' details, if you would just stop and think about it.Yes and the way in which they decided not to correct it is the perfect opening for keeping the franchise alive.

[Darkwind]

Yep I had been waiting for this bad boy for a while.

It was excellent.

Is Uhura seven different kinds of delicious or what? :drool:

Uhura can be summed up in a single word.

Schwing!

:mrgreen:

[JohnCraven]

I saw the original telecasts of the Star Trek series when they first came out on NBC and appreciated the movie "cherry-picking" some of the classic scenes or icons from the TV series, such as the "Green Lady" who lives in Uhura's dorm room and "Captain Pike" who was originally played by Jeffery Hunter in the TV show's pilot program. It was the most expensive TV show of its time. But in comparison to the movie out now, it looked rinkedy-dink.

Of course, now that the space-time continuum has been completely changed in this movie all those previous Star Trek movies and tv episodes never existed which means this is really a new beginning for a venerable concept.

It is like coming through the time portal in the episode where Spock had to stop Kirk from saving Joan Collins from being killed so that we could defeat the Nazis but in this instance the Nazis killed a whole planet before that could happen. I think the title of that episode was "City on the Edge of Forever". But I could be mixing up my episodes. Afterall, it was so long ago and far, far away. Ohh, different series. Sorry.

This movie was a welcome escape from the No-Win Scenario being played out on a daily basis with our lives by the Obama administration which has taken us into a similar alternate reality in this country where the bad guys run everything and run it backwards.

We could use a Captain Kirk right now in this country who doesn't believe in Obama's No-Win Scenario and can get us out of this mess.

One thing I especially liked in the movie was the suped-up Corvette they had. I hoped it burned genuine gasoline, too.

JohnCraven
New Orleans:flag:

[TimeToRelax]

I saw this new STAR TREK movie, and I have ONE word to describe the experience:

A W E S O M E !


http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg285/mthorn00/Awesome.jpg

As a fan of the Original Series ... I was delighted with this production !

[Hereintheusa]

Wow 6 pages in and no comments from conservatives explaining why this movie is sending a hate america and hate the troops message.

[ISYairio]

Wow 6 pages in and no comments from conservatives explaining why this movie is sending a hate america and hate the troops message.

Showed Europe from space for at least that one part, not America.

:mad:

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:razz:

[Gunslinger]

I saw the movie with my wife last night at an IMAX theater.

I'm going to see it again tonight.

This movie, I can honestly say, is one of the best, if not best Sci-Fi movies I have ever seen. It brought me into the characters, the story plot was outstanding and I love how they set it up for many sequels as they've erased any conflicts in future movies.

It was just awesome. Proper use of the word.

[TimeToRelax]

http://lateshow.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/top_ten/index/php/20090507.phtml

As spoken by Leonard Nimoy on the Late Show with David Letterman


[10]Warp factor 8! Arby's closes in ten minutes

[9]We're entering a breach in the space-time continuum or a wormhole or some crazy crap like that

[8]Set phasers to fabulous!

[7]Welcome aboard the Starship Enterprise -- today's in-flight movie is "Big Momma's House 2"

[6]We've been hijacked by Somali Pirates

[5]Sir, I'm going to need Saturday off to attend my nephew's Bar Mitzvah

[4]My baby-daddy is a Vulcan -- on the next "Maury"

[3]The Enterprise just hit a goose -- we're gonna have to land in the Hudson

[2]Live long, prosper, and keep on hangin' and bangin'

[1]I find your choice of a hairpiece highly illogical

[Hoobeedoo Bejesus]

What fun!

Fantastic movie. So glad I went to see it.

[TimeToRelax]

Top Ten Lines Never Before Said In a "Star Trek" Film

As said by Leonard Nimoy on Late Night with David Letterman


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kajHITRmJZM

[USAF Medic]

Wow 6 pages in and no comments from conservatives explaining why this movie is sending a hate america and hate the troops message.

Thanks for politicizing the thread about how it was a thread that was not politicized.

Irony is pretty ironic.

[USAF Medic]

Very good movie overall.
Of course you have to take it as a stand alone adventure as it in no way fits in with the established Trek universe or timeline.
If JJ Abrams was intending to establish a new Trek universe timeline, like what was done with Galactica, then it will be interesting to see how his version of Star Trek plays out.
But a really good movie none the less

[brouski]

I think I'mma go see the 4:05 ($2.50 :P). :think:

Y'all make it sound soo good. :)

I can't get Raisinets at the theater for $2.50.

[BasicGreatGuy]

I am watching it. Thus far, it is a very good movie.

[BasicGreatGuy]

I just got done watching the movie. Overall, I give it a B-. In my opinion, the story line was disjointed in a few places and the ending of the movie was weak.

I agree with those who said the Wrath of Kahn was better.

[JeffR]

Good movie!

[ISYairio]

I can't get Raisinets at the theater for $2.50.Yeah, I get cheap cokes as well. :shhh:

:lol:

[JohnCraven]

Wow 6 pages in and no comments from conservatives explaining why this movie is sending a hate america and hate the troops message.

That's not true. I just politicized it a couple of posts earlier.

What were you reading?

I specifically stated that the movie was a welcome escape from the "No-Win Scenario" being played out in Washington by the Obama administration and what we need is a Captain Kirk who doesn't believe in Obama's "No-Win Scenario" to rescue us from going over the cliff like lemmings to the sea as Obama would have us do.

It really is "time for another tea party."

JohnCraven
New Orleans:flag:

[angelicmadrigal]

Now, I'll preface this by saying the only reason I went to this movie (I hate movie theatres) was because my boyfreind is a Trekkie. What we spent (around $30) was RIDICULOUS, and it only served to reinforce why I like to stay home and watch movies after they come out on video. That being said, here we go:

I'd have to disagree it's the best science fiction movie ever. It fell pray to one of the tritest ways of dealing with canon incontinuity.....basically making it a long extended "alternate reality" episode. ::yawn::

Also, making Uhura Spock's love toy, just boardered on ludicrous, since in the series Uhura was a completely independant woman (who only gave Kirk the time of day due to alien influences).

Not to mention someone in the makeup department needs to be FIRED. That green alien chick? Not convincing at all, she just looked like a normal girl painted green. The blending around the eyes and mouth was a shoddy job.

The other thing that bugged me is certain scenes drug on too long for what I can only assume was dramatic effect.

The special effects department also needs to be reminded about the use of flashing lights, and such. I left the theatre with a horrible migraine because of that.


With all it's flaws however, I thought the acting was great. The dailogue was interesting. This is far and away better than anything put out by George Lucas in recent years.


It was kind of funny the whole time I'm watching it I'm thinking of the Song "The USS Make Some **** Up" by Voltaire.
"And I say
Bounce a graviton particle beam off the main deflector dish
Thats the way we do things lad, we're making **** up as we wish
The Klingons and the Romulans pose no threat to us
'Cause if we find we're in a bind we're totally screwed but nevermind
We'll pull something out of our behinds, we just make some **** up"

[angelicmadrigal]

At the end of the movie, people were waiting for names to come up on the screen to applaud them individually.

I liked that I didn't know who any of the actors were.

[Talk2Bill]

is Cpt. Pike in it?

[Dancer]

is Cpt. Pike in it?Go see it.

[CMike11]

It was a very good movie.

Just some nitpicks

1) I don't think it was believable that someone who didn't even finish the academy yet, could get appointed to the very high rank of captain of a starship.

I would imagine the first rank would be ensign, and then if you do something very heroic, you would move to the lowest level of lieutenant.

You would probably need about 20 to 30 years experience to get to a captain of a starship.

It's like going from not finishing a military academy to immediately being promoted to colonel or general in the army or marines. It can't happen.

2) It's hard for me to believe that for all the places for Kirk to be ejected to, not only would it be on the planet that Spock was on, but that not only as well that Kirk would be in walking distance of Spock, but that Spock would see him through that terrible weather and be there at that time, at the critical point.

No way.

That's said it was a good story. Uhura was hot.

[GA_LP]

It was a very good movie.

Just some nitpicks

1) I don't think it was believable that someone who didn't even finish the academy yet, could get appointed to the very high rank of captain of a starship.

I would imagine the first rank would be ensign, and then if you do something very heroic, you would move to the lowest level of lieutenant.

You would probably need about 20 to 30 years experience to get to a captain of a starship.

It's like going from not finishing a military academy to immediately being promoted to colonel or general in the army or marines. It can't happen.

That really irritated me. You could be given a command in about 4 years for exceptional officers, but it ISN'T going to be the brand new flagship of the fleet for your first command. During WW2, there were many officers commissioned from civilian life that rose to command destoyers by the end of the war, not cruisers or battleships.

Kirk IS a legend in the Star Trek universe as the youngest starship captain ever, but it was after he had already commanded other smaller vessels.

[brouski]

Go see it.

Beep one for yes, two for no.

[I am the Eggman]

It was a very good movie.

Just some nitpicks

1) I don't think it was believable that someone who didn't even finish the academy yet, could get appointed to the very high rank of captain of a starship.
I would imagine the first rank would be ensign, and then if you do something very heroic, you would move to the lowest level of lieutenant.

You would probably need about 20 to 30 years experience to get to a captain of a starship.

It's like going from not finishing a military academy to immediately being promoted to colonel or general in the army or marines. It can't happen.


Look at the circumstances. He had a battlefield commission of captain after relieving Spock. Other than Pike, the crew was pretty much all cadets. He and Spock pretty much singlehandedly saved Earth and the implication was it was Kirk's plan.

I'm not sure it was that unbelievable. He'd certainly proven his ability under fire.

2) It's hard for me to believe that for all the places for Kirk to be ejected to, not only would it be on the planet that Spock was on, but that not only as well that Kirk would be in walking distance of Spock, but that Spock would see him through that terrible weather and be there at that time, at the critical point.

No way.



Star Trek Kharma. Deus Ex Machina is a recurring theme in the Star Trek Universe.

That's said it was a good story. Uhura was hot.

Best movie yet. Agreed on Uhura, but so was the original :).

[I am the Eggman]

Kirk IS a legend in the Star Trek universe as the youngest starship captain ever, but it was after he had already commanded other smaller vessels.

But they're in a new timeline now. All that other stuff never happend in the current timeline. So in effect it's a different universe/timeline, which is sheer genius. They can now proceeed with a new 5 year mission that's not able to be nitpicked against the old one. Not that it'll stop anyone from nitpicking anyway :).

[GA_LP]

But they're in a new timeline now. All that other stuff never happend in the current timeline. So in effect it's a different universe/timeline, which is sheer genius. They can now proceeed with a new 5 year mission that's not able to be nitpicked against the old one. Not that it'll stop anyone from nitpicking anyway :).
He had to change the timeline - it is the only way to defuse the geek nitpickers. The only people that will listen to them now are the rest of the geek nitpickers.

Even in the new timeline, Starfleet is a military organization with regulations. Kirk was a suspended from duty cadet at the time and battlefield commissions are frequently reversed after the wartime need is over. He was given command of the fleet's flagship, a position of immense honor and considering how many captains far senior to him that are in line for that command, the resentment factor alone would have prevented such a rash move. As to his proven ability, it was more luck that planning.

And to Mike's 2nd point, I think he forgot about the remarkable luck that both Kirk and Spock always had as well as the frequently used Deus Ex Machina plot device.

[USAF Medic]

It was a very good movie.

Just some nitpicks

1) I don't think it was believable that someone who didn't even finish the academy yet, could get appointed to the very high rank of captain of a starship.

I would imagine the first rank would be ensign, and then if you do something very heroic, you would move to the lowest level of lieutenant.

You would probably need about 20 to 30 years experience to get to a captain of a starship.

It's like going from not finishing a military academy to immediately being promoted to colonel or general in the army or marines. It can't happen.

2) It's hard for me to believe that for all the places for Kirk to be ejected to, not only would it be on the planet that Spock was on, but that not only as well that Kirk would be in walking distance of Spock, but that Spock would see him through that terrible weather and be there at that time, at the critical point.

No way.

That's said it was a good story. Uhura was hot.

For all these reasons is why the movie cannot fall in line with the known Trek universe and has to be viewed as a stand alone movie on it's own.

[angelicmadrigal]

is Cpt. Pike in it?

Yes.

[Talk2Bill]

Yes.

ahhhh...thanks

[Jimd1701]

I just saw it this morning at an IMAX theater (that's the way to see it, if you haven't yet.) Damn good movie!:clap:

[I am the Eggman]

Even in the new timeline, Starfleet is a military organization with regulations. Kirk was a suspended from duty cadet at the time and battlefield commissions are frequently reversed after the wartime need is over. He was given command of the fleet's flagship, a position of immense honor and considering how many captains far senior to him that are in line for that command, the resentment factor alone would have prevented such a rash move. As to his proven ability, it was more luck that planning.


Yeah, but none of the other captains saved the human race, let alone beat the Kobayashi Maru scenario ;). Extraordinary deed, extraordinary rewards. Besides, it's in the script ;).

Luck, intuition, bravado, risks, or whatever, that's always been a part of Star Trek.

And to Mike's 2nd point, I think he forgot about the remarkable luck that both Kirk and Spock always had as well as the frequently used Deus Ex Machina plot device.

[Cid the Engineer]

Best sci-fi movie ever: Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back.

Best Trek movies: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country and Star Trek: First Contact.

The new one looks interesting.

A true trekkie wouldn't have left out The Wrath of Khan from their top 2 Star Trek movies of all time. I know a guy who didn't cry at his own father's funeral, but was bawling like a baby when Spock died after saying his farewell to Kirk.

[ogibillm]

A true trekkie wouldn't have left out The Wrath of Khan from their top 2 Star Trek movies of all time. I know a guy who didn't cry at his own father's funeral, but was bawling like a baby when Spock died after saying his farewell to Kirk.

i won't lie... i still get a little something in my eye at that scene and the funeral.

oh, and *spoiler, sort of*

i actually got a little emotional at the start of the new movie, with george. i thought that scene had great emotional impact for as little as we had invested in the characters.

[Spiked101]

A true trekkie wouldn't have left out The Wrath of Khan from their top 2 Star Trek movies of all time. I know a guy who didn't cry at his own father's funeral, but was bawling like a baby when Spock died after saying his farewell to Kirk.

Indeed. It was a tearjerker and also quintessential Trek. None of the others compare to that one in emotional firepower. It is the best of all time without a doubt.

[OldSchoolConservative]

I think among even the average Star Trek fan or even the average popcorn movie fan that the excitement concerning this movie will die in due time. I thought the acting was superb especially the individuals who played McCoy and Spock. But this movie in its attempt to appeal to a larger more mainstream audience has really dumbed down Trek. I'm not saying it wasn't an excellent movie but it did not have the feel of a Trek movie outside of Federation and Starfleet and Vulcan names. I think the best scene was actually the opening scene.
And I read the official graphic novel prequel "Countdown" which explained Nero and the background to the story and I felt that Nero in "Countdown" was a more developed villain. In a sense I think "Countdown" was better than the movie itself. As a Trek fan who owns most of TOS, TNG, Voyager and DS9 Dvds I can honestly say that I refuse to acknowledge the new movie even if it is supposed to be a reboot. In depth Trek like DS9 makes this new movie feel like Sesmae Street.

[margaretms]

Now, I'll preface this by saying the only reason I went to this movie (I hate movie theatres) was because my boyfreind is a Trekkie. What we spent (around $30) was RIDICULOUS, and it only served to reinforce why I like to stay home and watch movies after they come out on video. That being said, here we go:

I'd have to disagree it's the best science fiction movie ever. It fell pray to one of the tritest ways of dealing with canon incontinuity.....basically making it a long extended "alternate reality" episode. ::yawn::

Also, making Uhura Spock's love toy, just boardered on ludicrous, since in the series Uhura was a completely independant woman (who only gave Kirk the time of day due to alien influences).

Not to mention someone in the makeup department needs to be FIRED. That green alien chick? Not convincing at all, she just looked like a normal girl painted green. The blending around the eyes and mouth was a shoddy job.

The other thing that bugged me is certain scenes drug on too long for what I can only assume was dramatic effect.

The special effects department also needs to be reminded about the use of flashing lights, and such. I left the theatre with a horrible migraine because of that.


With all it's flaws however, I thought the acting was great. The dailogue was interesting. This is far and away better than anything put out by George Lucas in recent years.


It was kind of funny the whole time I'm watching it I'm thinking of the Song "The USS Make Some **** Up" by Voltaire.
"And I say
Bounce a graviton particle beam off the main deflector dish
Thats the way we do things lad, we're making **** up as we wish
The Klingons and the Romulans pose no threat to us
'Cause if we find we're in a bind we're totally screwed but nevermind
We'll pull something out of our behinds, we just make some **** up"

I share a little of your disappointment with it. I am averse to the use of time-travel and "alternative reality" in the way they used it (it seemed a little lazy and contrived, even by Trek standards); the plot seemed too wrenched around the necessity of introducing each character; the Spock-Uhura stuff was too much for me. As a fan of the original series (and not really a fan of any of the latter shows), I was sort of hoping I would like the "origin story" here as much as I liked Casino Royale and Batman Begins, but maybe my expectations were the problem. The joke with the doomed (of course) ensign who goes down with Kirk and Sulu to fight the Romulans was great, though.

[angelicmadrigal]

The joke with the doomed (of course) ensign who goes down with Kirk and Sulu to fight the Romulans was great, though.

Yeah and dummy me didn't realize he was the redshirt. The conversation went like this:

Me: Hey, honey who is that guy? I dont' remember anyone named Oswald.

BF: Uh.......he's the redshirt, he's going to die soon.

ME: OH! He is wearing a redshirt ::evil laughter:: I wonder how he's going to die.

[Spiked101]

I share a little of your disappointment with it. I am averse to the use of time-travel and "alternative reality" in the way they used it (it seemed a little lazy and contrived, even by Trek standards); the plot seemed too wrenched around the necessity of introducing each character; the Spock-Uhura stuff was too much for me. As a fan of the original series (and not really a fan of any of the latter shows), I was sort of hoping I would like the "origin story" here as much as I liked Casino Royale and Batman Begins, but maybe my expectations were the problem. The joke with the doomed (of course) ensign who goes down with Kirk and Sulu to fight the Romulans was great, though.

I agree Marg. I did like the redshirt guy. That was pretty funny. I found the movie entertaining, I just didn't find it to be "Trek" to me.

[Zouave]

Just saw it! Many thoughts. Spoilers follow.

An extremely well made and fun movie. Superb special effects, sound effects, score, set design, costumes, etc. Well acted, and many touches that remind me of episodes, scenes or events from the original series, some so subtle only true old-time Trekkers would notice: such as McCoy's usual patter, Pike in the wheelchair, or Spock in the ice world cave reminiscent of the classic line from the episode in which he says - so atypically - "I have eaten animal flesh. . . and I've enjoyed it!". Normally, Spock was a total vegetarian. Well, OK, McCoy's was not so subtle!

Karl Urban was an interesting choice for McCoy - the only not "unknown" actor in the cast of the crew - and he did a fine job. All the others were very effective; I have no complaints with any of them, not even the guy who played Chekov.There were a few other actors who are well known, but not as the crew.

Since when did Kirk become "a genius"? Smart, sure, but "genius"?? If he was such a "genius" how did he remain captain for twenty or more years, or whatever it was, with no promotions? No one in the Military stays at the same rank in the same position indefinitely, even if by choice.

The interior of the Enterprise looked nothing like that on the cheesy set of the first TV series, thankfully.

I totally forget if the females were wearing miniskirts! I think so, but more modified and longer than the original TV series. Anyone notice?

When did Romulans become giant super-powerful bald guys covered in what looked like Maori facial tattoos?? Or was that supposed to be only typical to that crew? Of course, the Federation first saw Romulans quite late, in "The Balance of Terror" episode.

Major Plot Hole: apparently both Vulcan and Earth were totally defenseless without so much as a phaser bank available. Even Star Fleet headquarters in California, a population center, had no defense, neither shields, nor phasers, and certainly not photon torpedoes. Nothing. That big "drill" in the film was easily knocked out with light hand-held weapons. OK, capt. Pike may have been forced to talk to reveal some secrets, but still, Star Fleet had nothing right near its own headquarters to defend itself?

Minor Plot Hole: The Romulan vessel was not originally some all-powerful doomsday machine from another race; it was a working mining vessel. Even though from the not too distant future, it all too easily handled not only Federation but Klingon warships en masse.

Biggest Plot Holes:

I have always had issues with temporal matters in ST; i.e., time travel and the inherent paradoxes. Beyond that, alternate realities/alternate timelines is another issue for me, and there were very many of them in all the ST TV series. One episode of ST/Next Generation depicted an almost infinite number of alternative realities all meeting, including one with a desperate Riker, first officer, on a Enterprise from a galaxy where the Borg had taken over.

One time in "Yoyager" it became so obvious a crewmen asked Captain Janeway about the paradoxes, and she replied quizzically, "the best thing to do is not just think about them". Even at the end of this "Star Trek" movie Spock concedes it is a form of "cheating". And it is - mostly for the screenwriters.

Perhaps the best original ST episode ever was "City on the Edge of Forever" written by the great Harlan Ellison. McCoy, deranged by an accidental drug overdose, went through a time portal, and instantly everything changed; even the Enterprise vanished. The rest had to go through the portal to correct what he did - save the life of a leader of a peace movement who happened to weaken the country enough to let Hitler take over the world. Then things corrected themselves, and "everything is as it was", so said the portal.

But in this film nothing ends up as it was.

[Zouave]

continuing. . .


In all other temporal episodes with alternate time lines, things ended up as they originally were, more or less. But no more!

Note that in some ways this plot is derivative of many other episodes involving temporal time lines, although in this case the line is broken forever. "Forever"?? No, with time travel no time line or reality is forever. And I have problems with that.

And here come BIG SPOILERS. . .

Remember the infamous episode of "Dallas" when an entire season of shows was wiped out as they were depicted merely as a dream? Patrick Duffy's character, Bobby, was killed as Duffy left in 1985, but when offered more money he came back. And the previous season was a "dream". http://www.petshub.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

That is what this "Star Trek"movie just did on a gigantic scale - wiped out EVERYTHING we saw and know and accept as a given as part of the "canon". No Federation-Klingon Alliance, perhaps no Borg, and on and on.

In the film, in the future, Spock fails to reach Romulus in time to create a singularity (black hole) to save that world from a supernova.

How exactly that was Spock's fault I failed to discern.

But captain Nero's ship, a mining ship, went with Spock's vessel through a singularity (created too late), and somehow went back through time instead of being scattered to the subatomic level or turned into pure energy, or whatever happens in a Black Hole. Romulus was destroyed by the supernova.

Nero blamed Spock, and somehow every planet in the Federation. This is not logical, and if Nero is merely insane, well, that detracts from his validity as a villain. Khan was not insane, certainly not to that degree.

At one point, young Spock strands a belligerent Kirk on a desolate ice planet. What was wrong with the brig? Of course, if in a brig he could not meet old Spock!

[Zouave]

continuing. . .


Nero manages to drill a hole into a defenseless Vulcan, insert some "red matter", that can create a singularity, and this all of Vulcan and six billion people are destroyed, while Spock watches! Off next to Earth, which was also equally defenseless, except for their relatively few star ships. The excuse for that was they were off elsewhere on another assignment.

Obviously, this is derivative of the Star Wars Death Star and Alderaan.

Well, after some heroics, Nero and his ship get sucked into another singularity and they vanish. To reappear in the sequel, in the present, past or future?? Who knows.

And now, near Saturn, we have a Black Hole in our solar system! Smart? http://www.petshub.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

So Vulcan is gone in the film. Romulus is still there as it got destroyed only in the future. Kirk, while still a cadet at the academy, get command of the Enterprise and, at the film's end, permanent promotion from the Federation from mere cadet to captain! Puhleeze.

Why can't Spock go back through another singularity and change the time line?? How one can determine where in the past or future you will end up in going through one of those I can not figure out.

So, there is no single reality. There is any number of time lines depending on who changes what in the past. as I said, I always had issues with this. And also as I said, even Spock made a reference at the end to "cheating". It does make it easier for the screenwriters to just blow up everything that happened in the Star Trek world and "canon".

I do not know why the above was necessary as they easily would have had about fifteen years, in ST terms, to create new stories for the young crewmen.

Weirdest paradox, at the end. Young Spock meets old Spock, and they have a conversation!!

Think about that. It should be impossible. Every person on Earth, but such a situation, every living thing, every inanimate object, could therefore exist separately and independently, nanosecond to nanosecond, with each having a separate corporeal existence in the same place at the same time! If there can be one of "you", or your dog, or car, etc., from a different time, there should be able to be an almost infinite number. If one, many; very many.

So, you can see the paradoxes. Right captain Janeway? What's that, captain? "Just don't think about them"?? Isn't that "cheating", as Spock said? Guess so. As with so many shows, be it "24" or whatever, suspension of disbelief is required.

So turn off your scientific logic and just enjoy the fun. But remember, like Vulcan, everything you knew about the Star Trek universe is now gone - at least until someone goes back and corrects the time line!

The movie is PG-13, and almost a PG. I would have preferred an R with some real gore.

BTW, Winona Ryder played Spock's mother! Who dies. Ben Cross played his father Sarek, now that Mark Lenard is dead. And Leonard Nimoy played one of the Spocks. Speaking of Spock, a much thinner and less stacked version of Uhura makes out with Spock in the film. And when did they become an item?? http://www.petshub.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif

So, big concerns with some aspects of the plot. Some plot holes. But overall quite good.

Not let's see if in the sequel one of the Spocks goes back in time and repairs the time line saving Vulcan. The problem now is that in ST there is no true reality anymore. http://s1.images.proboards.com/undecided.gif

[notluzn]

Best SCiFI movie I/ve seen in a Long time .JJ ABRAMs did ST a good deed.

[notluzn]

I'm glad someone else brought in new life to a dying SciFi series. TNG series had so many plot holes and errors it was sad.

[GA_LP]

Zouave:

Please don't hold back! Tell us how you REALLY feel!

[notluzn]

Zouave, When he created a Black hole, since ships survive it, wouldn't the planet just go to the "Where ever time"? Yes there was a plot hole with the redmatter. I agree but thats kinda how Star Trek has been always.

[janer]

The scientist in the house wanted to see this. He's the one who studied physics and medicine - we cannot watch "House" with him in the room, he hasn't stopped telling us why the bus jump in "Speed" could never work ("Watch the movie, Honey, just watch the movie!") and although he was the one who wanted to see it, today he reeled off all of the physics missteps in the film.
That stuff never ruins a film for me. Time travel does, unless it's The Time Machine or Back to the Future. Otherwise, they wind up EXPLAINING, and when they have to start explaining, that's a failure of show-don't-tell, unless narrative is critical to setting the tone (as opposed to delivering information).
I stopped following what was happening about a third of the way through, which meant that I was in it only for the FX, which were nothing I haven't seen before and not what I go for anyway.
I thought it was a very solid set up - the first third of the film was very good indeed - drama, humor, energy - and the actor who played Kirk was terrific - I believe he was in a little film called "Bottle Shock", not a good film, but you saw the promise.

[ImNewHere]

It was a good movie. From start to end, it never really let up. I wasn't paying attention when I was buying the ticket at the ticket-selling ATM kiosk thingy and got a $15 ticket for the IMAX. Definitely worth watching that on the bigger screen though. I'll be looking to watch Terminator and Transformers on that screen too.

But it was just that.... a movie. I can't break it down to analyze it because I just wasn't that into it. But it was a good one and glad I saw it. If you're spending your time finding flaws and inconsistencies, the you probably didn't enjoy it that much. And you remind me of the SNL skit where William ****ner scolds a bunch of Trekkies at a convention. I wish I could find that one on youtube.

[ImNewHere]

****ner

:))

The word filter on this board makes me laugh sometimes.

[notluzn]

Anyone want to go to Terminator and Transformers with me?

[BasicGreatGuy]

It was a good movie. From start to end, it never really let up. I wasn't paying attention when I was buying the ticket at the ticket-selling ATM kiosk thingy and got a $15 ticket for the IMAX. Definitely worth watching that on the bigger screen though. I'll be looking to watch Terminator and Transformers on that screen too.

But it was just that.... a movie. I can't break it down to analyze it because I just wasn't that into it. But it was a good one and glad I saw it. If you're spending your time finding flaws and inconsistencies, the you probably didn't enjoy it that much. And you remind me of the SNL skit where William ****ner scolds a bunch of Trekkies at a convention. I wish I could find that one on youtube.

Here is the SNL skit you were looking for. ;)

http://www.wikio.com/video/1105752

[FidelisAdMortem]

I always thought Star Trek was lame.

However, I saw this movie tonight, and wow, modern day Star Trek is off the hook.

My date and I both thought it was well worth seeing it.

Saw the preview for Transformers 2. WooHoo!

[ImNewHere]

Here is the SNL skit you were looking for. ;)

http://www.wikio.com/video/1105752

Yep. That's the one. :))

[ImNewHere]

Anyone want to go to Terminator and Transformers with me?

It's a date, big guy!

[janer]

And - though I would expect only a Sherlockian to quibble - if you are going to quote the Master's signature maxim, a little attribution would be nice.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Saw it on the digital screen.

Never been a Trekkie...never been into ANY of the series, but the wife has been cooped up in the house for the last few weeks trying to recover from some injuries she sustained in a minor car accident (she's fine, but she had a bad back going in plus she had a freak knee dislocation two weeks earlier). She's a TNG/Voyager girl, and was never into the original series, but I told her there was no way in hell we were going to see "Ghosts of Girlfriends Past", and she picked Trek over Angels & Demons.

I have to say I REALLY liked it. Quinto and Pine totally worked off each other as Spock & Kirk, and I'm already a Simon Pegg fan so I'll say casting him as Scotty was genius. I don't know how I feel about the whole time travel thing within the movie, but as a flick it was really enjoyable. I hope Abrams keeps going with this...I liked what he's done with Fringe and Alias.

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Anyone want to go to Terminator and Transformers with me?

Nah, dude...I'm good.

[khigh]

One question before I go see it. If I have never seen anything Star Trek, would I still enjoy the movie? Is it hard to follow if you don't know any of the characters? Okay, so, two questions!

[Dr. Funkenstein]

One question before I go see it. If I have never seen anything Star Trek, would I still enjoy the movie? Is it hard to follow if you don't know any of the characters? Okay, so, two questions!

Like I said...I've never been a Star Trek guy, and I really liked it.

There's enough funny, enough action and enough drama in it to keep you interested, even if you aren't hugely up on all of the characters going in.

[CrusaderFrank]

Saw it last night and loved it.

Now my son had the best take on it: When Star Trek first came out as a TV show it was VERY Edgy and forced people to confront their prejudices, you had a Russian, an alien and a black woman on the bridge with Kirk, to keep that edge you should have a Muslim and an openly gay guy (or girl) on the bridge.

[FidelisAdMortem]

Anyone want to go to Terminator and Transformers with me?

Nah, thats gay. ;-)

[notluzn]

It's a date, big guy!
MORE Cowbell

[Dancer]

Saw Terminator last night. It's a wild thrill ride (seriously, I felt like I was on a rollercoaster). One of the people I was with said, "Christian Bale redeemed himself in this movie for me. I couldn't stand him as Batman."

I liked it (not as much as Star Trek, but it was a good story).

[Dr. Funkenstein]

Saw it last night and loved it.

Now my son had the best take on it: When Star Trek first came out as a TV show it was VERY Edgy and forced people to confront their prejudices, you had a Russian, an alien and a black woman on the bridge with Kirk, to keep that edge you should have a Muslim and an openly gay guy (or girl) on the bridge.

Wait...Chekhov was supposed to be STRAIGHT???

[notluzn]

Saw it last night and loved it.

Now my son had the best take on it: When Star Trek first came out as a TV show it was VERY Edgy and forced people to confront their prejudices, you had a Russian, an alien and a black woman on the bridge with Kirk, to keep that edge you should have a Muslim and an openly gay guy (or girl) on the bridge.Maybe there is something to the reason they are not on the Star Ship. They find a cure for the "Gay Gene" and Muslims still won't play nice with everyone else and then throw in new kinds of species of humanoids.

[angelicmadrigal]

One question before I go see it. If I have never seen anything Star Trek, would I still enjoy the movie? Is it hard to follow if you don't know any of the characters? Okay, so, two questions!

You'd probably actually be better off if you haven't seen Star Trek before. I didn't find it hard to follow at all, they do a pretty good job at making the plot pretty....transparent.

[megs280]

I like some sci-fi but was never into Star Trek and wasn't excited about the movie when my boyfriend suggested seeing it. I didn't expect much. I really enjoyed the movie and want to see it again. Great special effects and very interesting story.

One part near the end does not make sense to me (don't want to post a spoiler for those who haven't seen it), but a very good movie overall.

[twinheart]

LOVED this movie!!! - Bones stole the show for me - I knew it was him the second he spoke to Kirk - the only thing I did not care for was the whole Uhrah/Spock relationship - it is not true to Star Trek and was not necessary in the storyline at all - other than that, the characters were spot on in their portrayals - cannot wait to see Transformers and Terminator Salvation!!! - I will be watching this one again, though!!!

[angelicmadrigal]

LOVED this movie!!! - Bones stole the show for me - I knew it was him the second he spoke to Kirk - the only thing I did not care for was the whole Uhrah/Spock relationship - it is not true to Star Trek and was not necessary in the storyline at all - other than that, the characters were spot on in their portrayals - cannot wait to see Transformers and Terminator Salvation!!! - I will be watching this one again, though!!!

You aren't the only person to be upset by the Uhura/Spock nonsense, trust me.

[Zouave]

Uhura/Spock was stupid. But it was NOTHING compared to changing the time line and the new reality. All we ever knew about ST got WIPED OUT by this movie.

I should get a refund for all the ST DVDs I have as now THEY NEVER HAPPENED!!

Plus, both Vulcan and Earth (Federation headquarters) being totally defenseless against that drill was absurd. Remember, Nero was drilling just outside Federation headquarters. Makes no sense.

Now there is no reality any more. It can all change depending on who goes through the singularity. Spock can go back and restore Vulcan. Why not?? Anything goes now. :(

[MrShotShot]

Just saw it - fantastic movie. Completely lived up to the hype. I even liked the alternative timeline concept - it was really the only way Abrams could do it w/o a bunch of 40 year old virgins living in their mom's basements screaming that Spock would never have done X because in episode 12 of the first season he yada yada yada.

[ImNewHere]

Just saw it - fantastic movie. Completely lived up to the hype. I even liked the alternative timeline concept - it was really the only way Abrams could do it w/o a bunch of 40 year old virgins living in their mom's basements screaming that Spock would never have done X because in episode 12 of the first season he yada yada yada.

+1

If you break it down like that, you're just not going to enjoy the movie unless it preaches to you about saving the whales or whatever bullcrap they feel like putting out.

[Wookinstien]

Uhura/Spock was stupid. But it was NOTHING compared to changing the time line and the new reality. All we ever knew about ST got WIPED OUT by this movie.

I should get a refund for all the ST DVDs I have as now THEY NEVER HAPPENED!!

Plus, both Vulcan and Earth (Federation headquarters) being totally defenseless against that drill was absurd. Remember, Nero was drilling just outside Federation headquarters. Makes no sense.

Now there is no reality any more. It can all change depending on who goes through the singularity. Spock can go back and restore Vulcan. Why not?? Anything goes now. :(

ST was never wiped out, this movie spawned a new alternate reality, an often used trick of sci-fi writers. Its just a way of throwing out all the past so they can make new stories without out the fanboys screaming out why that cannot happen.

Overall I enjoyed the movie, the only problems I had was the usual J.J. random cut shots and jumpy camera moves I found them disorientating.

[angelicmadrigal]

ST was never wiped out, this movie spawned a new alternate reality, an often used trick of sci-fi writers.

It's a bit overused these days.

[snagswolf]

Saw it for the second time last night. Definitely one of my favorites, but is it better than Wrath of Khan? Too soon to decide.

I love the direction Abrams has taken the franchise. There's a freshness to it now, and they can go where they want from here. Even a reboot of 'Khan' is possible.

[snagswolf]

*** SPOILER ***

























Just imagine the changes old Spock alone could bring about to the new timeline, with all the technical knowledge he's gained.

I would expect all Federation starships being outfitted with cloaking devices would be one of his first accomplishments.

[snagswolf]

But it was NOTHING compared to changing the time line and the new reality. All we ever knew about ST got WIPED OUT by this movie.

I should get a refund for all the ST DVDs I have as now THEY NEVER HAPPENED!!
Of course they happened. Well, as much as a fictional story can 'happen'.

Old Spock lived through those events. He is proof that they happened.

Think of it as finishing a painting and putting it on the wall, and replacing it with a blank canvas where anything is possible. I'm looking forward to what's going to be painted, while we still have the one on the wall to enjoy.

They could even redo the original series now, with all new stories, and occasionally visiting an old one and adding a new twist.

[MrShotShot]

Now, I'm not a stickler for canon, but there were a couple of things that did make my "canon-sense" tingle a bit.

1. The mention of Klingon war birds decloaking in the Kobayashi Maru test - Klingons having the ability to use cloaking devices wasn't introduced until the TOS episode where the Enterprise was facing off against the 3 Klingon battle cruisers.

2. The notion that anyone in Starfleet even knew what a Romulan looked like - if you recall the TOS episode where the Enterprise was facing off against the lone Romulan warbird, everyone was surprised and suspicious that Romulans looked just like Spock. My understanding was that viewscreen technology didn't exist during the first Romulan War and therefore no one knew what they looked like. Surely the crew of the Kelvin wouldn't have known they were Romulans.

Now granted everything has been thrown into an alternate reality from here forward, but these two things hadn't happened yet.

Nitpicks I know and they certainly don't detract from what was a spectacular movie (still number two behind Khan in my opinion though) but just thought I'd point them out.

[snagswolf]

You aren't the only person to be upset by the Uhura/Spock nonsense, trust me.
My only problem with Uhura/Spock was that they offered no explanation as to why they were together in this timeline. If there was a scene where events specific to this timeline brought them together, it would have been much more effective. And the later suprise where their love is revealed would be more of an 'aha' moment for the audience.

[czzzaar]

I was a huge fan of the Original Star Trek when I was a kid. I could name any episode within 10 seconds of the start of the show. I also like TNG once it got going (the first season was not so good, IMO), but the rest of the ST TV shows were pretty lame. DS9 was mostly unwatchable, Voyager was just as bad, and Enterprise, although it had a good cast was completely ridiculous.

All that said, I went to the new movie with apprehension, but walked away completely satisfied with the new cast and new direction. I think the alternate timeline of the show is a stroke of brilliance that will spare us all from the horrible line of continuity that Berman and Pillar dumped on us.

Way to go J.J. Abramson.

[Floydian]

For what its worth, esteemed film critic Roger Ebert felt that while the star trek of old was cerebral and thought provoking, this star trek is just colorful sights and loud explosions.

Read his review here. http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090506/REVIEWS/905069997/1001

[notluzn]

Now, I'm not a stickler for canon, but there were a couple of things that did make my "canon-sense" tingle a bit.

1. The mention of Klingon war birds decloaking in the Kobayashi Maru test - Klingons having the ability to use cloaking devices wasn't introduced until the TOS episode where the Enterprise was facing off against the 3 Klingon battle cruisers.

2. The notion that anyone in Starfleet even knew what a Romulan looked like - if you recall the TOS episode where the Enterprise was facing off against the lone Romulan warbird, everyone was surprised and suspicious that Romulans looked just like Spock. My understanding was that viewscreen technology didn't exist during the first Romulan War and therefore no one knew what they looked like. Surely the crew of the Kelvin wouldn't have known they were Romulans.

Now granted everything has been thrown into an alternate reality from here forward, but these two things hadn't happened yet.

Nitpicks I know and they certainly don't detract from what was a spectacular movie (still number two behind Khan in my opinion though) but just thought I'd point them out.

There are more plot holes in Star Trek than any other SCIFI show.

A BIG error was when they Transported from a planet to the Enterprise. One the Enterprise was traveling at Warp 4 or more for more than a few hours and they could beam to it. Not in all the ST shows could this happen.

It took less time to get to Vulcan planet from Earth but is taking hours to get back to Earth. Vulcan is 16 Light years away from Earth and Warp 4 isn't fast enought to make it there even in a few days.

Good Movie though but damn this ST canon

[czzzaar]

For what its worth, esteemed film critic Roger Ebert felt that while the star trek of old was cerebral and thought provoking, this star trek is just colorful sights and loud explosions.

Read his review here. http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090506/REVIEWS/905069997/1001

Roger Ebert liked the last Mummy movie. That pretty much shows how much he has slipped, God bless him.

[Dancer]

Now, I'm not a stickler for canon, but there were a couple of things that did make my "canon-sense" tingle a bit.

1. The mention of Klingon war birds decloaking in the Kobayashi Maru test - Klingons having the ability to use cloaking devices wasn't introduced until the TOS episode where the Enterprise was facing off against the 3 Klingon battle cruisers.

2. The notion that anyone in Starfleet even knew what a Romulan looked like - if you recall the TOS episode where the Enterprise was facing off against the lone Romulan warbird, everyone was surprised and suspicious that Romulans looked just like Spock. My understanding was that viewscreen technology didn't exist during the first Romulan War and therefore no one knew what they looked like. Surely the crew of the Kelvin wouldn't have known they were Romulans.

Now granted everything has been thrown into an alternate reality from here forward, but these two things hadn't happened yet.

Nitpicks I know and they certainly don't detract from what was a spectacular movie (still number two behind Khan in my opinion though) but just thought I'd point them out.*Possible spoiler*





My theory was any changes to the Spock/Uhura or general knowledge were due to ripple effect...

The first pebble was Nero, the second pebble was Spock. Who knew the effects that the death of the crew of George had on future discoveries? Perhaps their deaths lead to an stronger attempt to discover new and dangerous races, perhaps their deaths lead to efforts to create more advanced technologies? Necessity can often be the mother of invention.

I took the ripple effect of the Spock/Uhura thing as "Kirk met Uhura first, had he not been such a sleezy punk in the bar with the cheesy lines, she might have been more impressed and Spock wouldn't have had a chance with her when she made it to Starfleet. Because he was a punk in the bar, instead of impressing her, Kirk came across as childish to her. In turn, Spock seemed so much more mature as one of her instructors. So she made a move on him."

Yeah, perhaps I am reading a lot into it, but it is that or fold laundry...lol

[MrShotShot]

There are more plot holes in Star Trek than any other SCIFI show.

A BIG error was when they Transported from a planet to the Enterprise. One the Enterprise was traveling at Warp 4 or more for more than a few hours and they could beam to it. Not in all the ST shows could this happen.

It took less time to get to Vulcan planet from Earth but is taking hours to get back to Earth. Vulcan is 16 Light years away from Earth and Warp 4 isn't fast enought to make it there even in a few days.

Good Movie though but damn this ST canon

Yes, distance has always been conveniently overlooked in Star Trek - and much of scifi for that matter.

As for the beaming, wasn't that the whole point of old-Spock giving young-Scotty his formula for trans-warp beaming? I do know that was discussed in the various ST series.

[snagswolf]

Speaking of beaming, is there a reason why they didn't just beam up to the spacedock from Earth? I guess the director wanted to have the flyby shot of the Enterprise.

And it seems like it was the cadets' first visit to the space dock. After three years at the Academy, and with transporter technology, you would think they would have had some field trips prior to that.

[MrShotShot]

One other thing that I forgot to mention - I was very pleased with the design of the Enterprise. What impressed me the most was that they designed the ship in such a way as to make the future refits (the Enterprise from the movies) much more plausible.

It always bothered me that the refit Enterprise looked more like a completely different vessel than the original Enterprise. In fact, there's a fairly detailed article on the Memory Alpha site that analyses the hull designs and determines that about the only thing that could be left from the original ship is a small portion of the engineering hull and some of the connector piece.

The new Enterprise, however, could be upgraded to look very similar to the refit Enterprise. Of course the upgrade might never happen in the new timeline, but oh well.

Nice job on the design.

[Samm]

My wife and I went to see it yesterday. We loved it. I was particularly impressed with how good the casting/make-up was to replicate younger versions of all of the original Star Trek cast. They did a terrific job of emulating the personalities as well.

I hope this "alternate reality" story (created by the intrusion of the Romulans and "old" Spock) will be continued for several more episodes over the next few years using this same cast. Star Trek lives!

[newyorkjetsfan]

I finally saw the new Star Trek movie over the Memorial Day Weekend, and it was FANTASTIC!!!! I loved the story as well as the acting and special effects. I loved the mixture of action and humor.

J.J. Abrams did a wonderful job directing this film. I also loved the performance of Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto as Kirk and Spock respectively. I also like Karl Urban and Simon Pegg as Bones and Scott as they provided some sense of humor.

The best thing about this film is that you don't have to be a die-hard Trekkie to understand the storyline.

I wouldn't mind seeing this film again.

I definitely recommend everyone to see this film.

I give it a nine on a scale of one to ten. I can't wait for the sequel.

ENJOY!!!! :)

[TimeToRelax]

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[Chucky]

... And here come BIG SPOILERS. . .

In the film, in the future, Spock fails to reach Romulus in time to create a singularity (black hole) to save that world from a supernova.

How exactly that was Spock's fault I failed to discern.

But captain Nero's ship, a mining ship, went with Spock's vessel through a singularity (created too late), and somehow went back through time instead of being scattered to the subatomic level or turned into pure energy, or whatever happens in a Black Hole. Romulus was destroyed by the supernova.

Nero blamed Spock, and somehow every planet in the Federation. This is not logical, and if Nero is merely insane, well, that detracts from his validity as a villain. ....
Not to be overly nitpicky myself, but the fact that Spock and the Vulcans could identify the Romulan star is about to explode, BUT NOT TELL THE ROMULANS TO EVACUATE seems to overshadow their altruism in sending a ship with 'red matter' to save them. It's kind of fitting that the Vulcans get swallowed up by a black hole, especially when Kirk later shows that all you need to stop Nero's planet driller is a couple of guys with parachutes and a sword...

Which brings up another nit - I mean, seriously, EVERYONE on Vulcan and Earth is so dumbfounded by, or just doesn't notice (?!), this huge drill making a hole right to the core of their planet and NO ONE tries to stop it?


All-in-all: funny, silly, entertaining - shoulda' waited for the TV showing, but my kids were paying....

[CMike11]

I don't like the time travel stuff.

You never know if someone is dead whether they truely are dead.

It's cheating in a way.

[LibertarianDude]

I have been a lifelong fan of TOS, TNG and DS9. And I slightly prefer TNG to TOS due to a lot of cheesiness of TOS-although TOS did have some masterful stories in season I. But there is no denying that the TOS based movies have been on a whole way more successful than TNG movies. And even though we have different actors portraying TOS characters I feel that people will still come to and be reaquainted with TOS characters that people love so dearly.

I never saw the Star Trek prequel series Enterprise, with Scott Bakula. Is their a cannon web page that will cover what happened on the series? I would like to get up to speed with that series without having to watch the reruns.