Venezuela Gives Island back to US

[Dem]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8013592.stm

The Venezuelan government has formally donated an island near Philadelphia back to the United States.
Petty Island, an uninhabited island some 528 acres (214 ha) in size, is situated in the Delaware River in the state of New Jersey.
It was bought by Venezuela's state-run energy company, PDVS, in 1990.
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez announced the move at a regional summit last week as part of an improvement in ties between the two nations.


This is what happens when you are nice to other nations, they are nice back.

Sure it may be symbolic, but it could lead to better relations between our two countries.

[MadazzVeteran]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8013592.stm



This is what happens when you are nice to other nations, they are nice back.

Sure it may be symbolic, but it could lead to better relations between our two countries.
If there's oil on it, Saudi Arabia will probably buy it just to keep us over the oil barrel.

[johnrocks]

Shake a man's hand, take a $5 book and in exchange get over 500 acres of land, I wish I was as lucky.

[Iggy]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8013592.stm



This is what happens when you are nice to other nations, they are nice back.

Sure it may be symbolic, but it could lead to better relations between our two countries.:)) Maybe if we send Iran some flowers...

[johnrocks]

:)) Maybe if we send Iran some flowers...

lol, 1800 flowers is still cheaper than tomahawks:angel:

[ddye]

:)) Maybe if we send Iran some flowers...
So far this thread's a great example of, "If you can't say something good about Obama... make a smartass comment"

Right?

Doug

[ChaosControl]

Damn maybe I need to become pals with the Venezuelan government, I want an island.

[MadazzVeteran]

So far this thread's a great example of, "If you can't say something good about Obama... make a smartass comment"

Right?

Doug
I'll be more than happy to say something good.

1. He dresses well
2. It will be good when he leaves office.

[johnrocks]

I think it's great, let's try Diplomacy, the isolationist foreign policy of the past several years has proven to be a flawed and failed policy.

[johnrocks]

Damn maybe I need to become pals with the Venezuelan government, I want an island.

500 acre island, I'm game!

[Iggy]

So far this thread's a great example of, "If you can't say something good about Obama... make a smartass comment"

Right?

Doug

What is there thats good to say about this? Chavez is a communist dictator. Obama shakes his hand. Chavez "gives" us a deserted island within our own borders. And this leads you guys to believe that Obama is some sort of diplomatic genius.

Smartass comments are all this is good for.

[homiebrah]

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This is what happens when you are nice to other nations, they are nice back.

Sure it may be symbolic, but it could lead to better relations between our two countries.
We can all boat out to the island and smoke a Cuban cigar in the spirit of improved friendship with a man who once claimed Obama had the same stench of Bush, while we sit around and read copies of The Open Veins of Latin America.

[Jagergeist]

So far this thread's a great example of, "If you can't say something good about Obama... make a smartass comment"

Right?

Doug

Pretty much. Tangible results from the overseas tour need to be dismissed and minimized from the right, sort of like a little kid sticking their fingers in their ears and singing. I agree Obama presenting a far more humble attitude to the rest of the world will have many similar small acts of cooperation, then broader applications. This personally was the primary reason I voted for Obama, the chance to show the rest of the world we are not all a bunch of arrogant cowboys.

[homiebrah]

So far this thread's a great example of, "If you can't say something good about Obama... make a smartass comment"

Right?

Doug
Pot meet kettle.

[LouC]

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This is what happens when you are nice to other nations, they are nice back.

Sure it may be symbolic, but it could lead to better relations between our two countries.

:))

The tools of fools.

[Hellsbane]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8013592.stm



This is what happens when you are nice to other nations, they are nice back.

Sure it may be symbolic, but it could lead to better relations between our two countries.

Sorry, but its unacceptable. I want them to take their damn island and get it the hell out of our country!

[Iggy]

Pretty much. Tangible results from the overseas tour need to be dismissed and minimized from the right, sort of like a little kid sticking their fingers in their ears and singing. I agree Obama presenting a far more humble attitude to the rest of the world will have many similar small acts of cooperation, then broader applications. This personally was the primary reason I voted for Obama, the chance to show the rest of the world we are not all a bunch of arrogant cowboys.

Personally, "boot licker" is not what I like to see on the resume of a guy running for President.

[LouC]

:)) maybe if we send iran some flowers...

+1

[TX_AGGIE'06]

Not sure if there is any truth to this, but I heard the

island was going to be turned into a gay and lesbian resort. Oh

wait nevermind, we already have a Disney World....... Let me

check my sources.

[LouC]

...humble attitude...

Humble?

He is kissing their asses.

Hugo plays us for the fool "giving us back an island" which falsely burnishes Obama's resume and gives his groupies thrills up their legs.

I just hope he has a shred of decency when he goes to France for the anniversary of D-Day that he doesn't blame WW II on us and apologize for Americans killing civilians and air raiding villages.

[Dem]

I think it's great, let's try Diplomacy, the isolationist foreign policy of the past several years has proven to be a flawed and failed policy.
I like diplomacy too.

[ddye]

Pretty much. Tangible results from the overseas tour need to be dismissed and minimized from the right, sort of like a little kid sticking their fingers in their ears and singing. I agree Obama presenting a far more humble attitude to the rest of the world will have many similar small acts of cooperation, then broader applications. This personally was the primary reason I voted for Obama, the chance to show the rest of the world we are not all a bunch of arrogant cowboys.
I agree, and I can't wait to see the reaction from the far right here if Obama's economic policies are successful.

Wait, if that happens, the far right will be out of power for a generation. Never mind.

Doug

[PSBandit]

Q: What do a Guitar and Obama the Marxist have in common?

A: They can both be played by Hugo Chavez

http://psbandit.com/chavez_guitar.jpg

:D

[Dem]

Not sure if there is any truth to this, but I heard the

island was going to be turned into a gay and lesbian resort. Oh

wait nevermind, we already have a Disney World....... Let me

check my sources.
What?

[Gospel Checker]

Ahmadinejad
Kim Jong II
Chavez
Castro
Obama


Yeah, that's good company. Let's be pals with these guys.

[TX_AGGIE'06]

Ahmadinejad
Kim Jong II
Chavez
Castro
Obama


Yeah, that's good company. Let's be pals with these guys.



very well put :clap:

[Hellsbane]

Humble?

He is kissing their asses.

Hugo plays us for the fool "giving us back an island" which falsely burnishes Obama's resume and gives his groupies thrills up their legs.

I just hope he has a shred of decency when he goes to France for the anniversary of D-Day that he doesn't blame WW II on us and apologize for Americans killing civilians and air raiding villages.

The laughable part is, its not Venenzuelas' island, it belongs to the US. I mean, who here beleives that Venenzuela can just come in, scoop up the island and take it back to Venenzuela with them? Its a joke son, get it, a joke.

[ValricoKate]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8013592.stm



This is what happens when you are nice to other nations, they are nice back.

Sure it may be symbolic, but it could lead to better relations between our two countries.

Can we drill it?

[Iggy]

Ahmadinejad
Kim Jong II
Chavez
Castro
Obama


Yeah, that's good company. Let's be pals with these guys.


I'd like to teach the world to sing
in perfect harmony.
I'd like to buy the world a Coke
and hope that's enough to keep them from trying to kill us.

[Iggy]

Can we drill it?

Its in the Delaware river... so no.

[Gospel Checker]

Can we drill it?

That line never works......

[ChaosControl]

Do y'all want the world to hate us or something?
I don't see how this is in any way a bad thing.

So anyway, Chavez, for my island I want it in the Pacific and near the equator, maybe you don't own any Polynesian island, but you can go buy one and then give it to me.

[johnrocks]

I'd like to teach the world to sing
in perfect harmony.
I'd like to buy the world a Coke
and hope that's enough to keep them from trying to kill us.

Hey, it's I'd like to buy "some" coke, if your gonna sing it:naughty:

[Jagergeist]

Humble?

He is kissing their asses.

Hugo plays us for the fool "giving us back an island" which falsely burnishes Obama's resume and gives his groupies thrills up their legs.

I just hope he has a shred of decency when he goes to France for the anniversary of D-Day that he doesn't blame WW II on us and apologize for Americans killing civilians and air raiding villages.

I would argue his actions and comments hardly rise to the level of "kissing their asses" or bootlicking. He struck a balanced tone that expressed regret for our past lapses of arrogance and acting like we have 55% of the global population rather than 5%. I would have liked to see less comfort with Chavez, but Chevez has been more openly hostile to Bush than America as a whole. He offered Russia the "reset" button and deeper cuts to nuclear weapons, items we all know deep down the US will never use due to the ghastly level of collateral damage.

Overall the tour went well, was widely accepted as a political plus and I hope more will follow.

[gb2004]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8013592.stm



This is what happens when you are nice to other nations, they are nice back.

Sure it may be symbolic, but it could lead to better relations between our two countries.

:)):)):)):)):))

[johnrocks]

Do y'all want the world to hate us or something?
I don't see how this is in any way a bad thing.

So anyway, Chavez, for my island I want it in the Pacific and near the equator, maybe you don't own any Polynesian island, but you can go buy one and then give it to me.

Hell, I'll take a couple hundred acres up in the Ozarks
Who can I hug...any takers?:hug::hug::hug:

[Beccaria]

Something tells me we're not getting the whole story on this...

[LouC]

I like diplomacy too.

Diplomacy?

The Bush administration engaged in diplomacy but the media lied and said he didn't and the ignorant believed them.

Sucking up to others is a form of diplomacy that makes for nice photo ops but puts the sucker in the diminished position, President Obama is playing the role of the sucker in chief.

Taking diplomacy to extremes is why the axis powers nearly ruled the world last century.

[Gospel Checker]

Do y'all want the world to hate us or something?
I don't see how this is in any way a bad thing.



Nope. Just the bad guys. While we're being all buddy-buddy with the dictators and tyrants of the world, we're blowing off our best allies.

[johnrocks]

Diplomacy?

The Bush administration engaged in diplomacy but the media lied and said he didn't and the ignorant believed them.

Sucking up to others is a form of diplomacy that makes for nice photo ops but puts the sucker in the diminished position, President Obama is playing the role of the sucker in chief.

Taking diplomacy to extremes is why the axis powers nearly ruled the world last century.

No Versailles Treaty, no Wilsonian Foreign Policy = no Axis powers

[gianni]

Just more quid pro quo between fellow traveling socialists. Obama, Chavez, and the whole gang. Yep. They are really tight, and Obama is on target to bring socialism to the United States, just as Chavez recently announced.

[kwc57]

Neocons confuse fear for respect. It has been in the not so distant past and should be the future goal of the US to be respected, not feared. They are already aware that we can blow them all the hell up 500 times over.

[LouC]

Do y'all want the world to hate us or something?
I don't see how this is in any way a bad thing.

So anyway, Chavez, for my island I want it in the Pacific and near the equator, maybe you don't own any Polynesian island, but you can go buy one and then give it to me.

Sucking up to the world is not going to get them to love us.

I have no desire for them to love us.

I don't care one whit if the dictator Chavez loves us.

What is with this notion we need to be loved?

Will our avowed enemies love us if we prosecute Bush and his administration?

No they will sit in their caves and mud huts and laugh their asses off at us eating our own.

[MrShotShot]

And how many billions will it cost the United States taxpayer to clean it up and remove all of the residual contaminents from Hugo's oil boys?

[johnrocks]

Neocons confuse fear for respect. It has been in the not so distant past and should be the future goal of the US to be respected, not feared. They are already aware that we can blow them all the hell up 500 times over.

yup

[ValricoKate]

Its in the Delaware river... so no.

AW cmon.

[LouC]

And how many billions will it cost the United States taxpayer to clean it up and remove all of the residual contaminents from Hugo's oil boys?

Recovery shovel ready projects, it will create jobs man!!!!!

It's all good!!!

Hugo loves us man!!!!

Peace out!!!!!

[RedStatePaPa]

Holy cow. Obama is a diplomatic genius!!!

An island for a handshake?

What will the Sauds give us for that bow?

[fallenturtle]

What is there thats good to say about this? Chavez is a communist dictator. Obama shakes his hand. Chavez "gives" us a deserted island within our own borders. And this leads you guys to believe that Obama is some sort of diplomatic genius.

Smartass comments are all this is good for.

I think Chavez is more a socialist than a communist. Also I don't know if I'd consider him a dictator... I think he's on the path to being one, but as of current his period of being able to "rule by decree" has an expiration date of around September of this year.

[LouC]

Neocons confuse fear for respect. It has been in the not so distant past and should be the future goal of the US to be respected, not feared. They are already aware that we can blow them all the hell up 500 times over.

Treating with dictators creates respect in the world?

We carpet bombed the wrong countries in WW II.

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

Sucking up to the world is not going to get them to love us.

I have no desire for them to love us.

I don't care one whit if the dictator Chavez loves us.

What is with this notion we need to be loved?

Will our avowed enemies love us if we prosecute Bush and his administration?

No they will sit in their caves and mud huts and laugh their asses off at us eating our own.

Chavez may be a very bad dude but he's not the one who attacked us. We should try to play everybody. And it's much easier to play them when we're not punching them in the face at the same time. At least that's been my experience.

Wait a minute, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the way to get you fellow posters to go along with what I want is to insult you. Who wants to be first?

[RedStatePaPa]

yup

neoconneoconneoconneoconneoconneoconneocon...:roll eyes:

Dude you're becoming a broken record.


You're whipping fellow conservatives across the face with that olive branch of yours. Not very nice.

You should follow Obama's example.


I am now seriously wondering who you side with. You talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

Maybe BGG is right, compromise is for patsys. :hand:

[fallenturtle]

very well put :clap:

:eh:

[johnrocks]

neoconneoconneoconneoconneoconneoconneocon...:roll eyes:

Dude you're becoming a broken record.


You're whipping fellow conservatives across the face with that olive branch of yours. Not very nice.

You should follow Obama's example.


I am now seriously wondering who you side with. You talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

Maybe BGG is right, compromise is for patsys. :hand:

:rolleyes: Isolationism does not work and that is what we've created in the past several years, I mean, do YOU like a nosey neighbor?

That Olive Branch thread was an experiment, I've been told for months now that we need to unite and it was we who would not bulge, that thread proves that this foreign policy is uncompromisable to most, you don't want me to unite, you want me to swallow YOUR failure of a foreign policy!

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

neoconneoconneoconneoconneoconneoconneocon...:roll eyes:

Dude you're becoming a broken record.


You're whipping fellow conservatives across the face with that olive branch of yours. Not very nice.

You should follow Obama's example.


I am now seriously wondering who you side with. You talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

Maybe BGG is right, compromise is for patsys. :hand:

We're a nation full of the best salespeople in the world. We should use that skill to our advantage. Then we get what we want and don't have to worry about about people trying to kill us.

[LouC]

Holy cow. Obama is a diplomatic genius!!!

An island for a handshake?

What will the Sauds give us for that bow?

Well they are already helping President Obama in his plan to give aerospace systems to Syria to update their "dual use" (?) fleet of 747's.

[in4sit]

I guess my question is why did he do this? What is in it for him??

and to the OP... I turly feel the love... I am so glad that we are all now friends and are being so good to each other... I was thinking I didn't like Hugo Chaves, but hell, now that you have pointed this out.. I may just buy some DVD's and a Ipod and send it to him.

[RedStatePaPa]

Chavez may be a very bad dude but he's not the one who attacked us. We should try to play everybody. And it's much easier to play them when we're not punching them in the face at the same time. At least that's been my experience.

Wait a minute, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the way to get you fellow posters to go along with what I want is to insult you. Who wants to be first?

Buddies with Ahmadinejad who actually has attacked us.

Yeah lets befriend this guy. :rolleyes:

We'll get an island.

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

Buddies with Ahmadinejad who actually has attacked us.

Yeah lets befriend this guy. :rolleyes:

We'll get an island.

Why did you say that. I never said anything about him. He's a nut.

[LouC]

Chavez may be a very bad dude but he's not the one who attacked us. We should try to play everybody. And it's much easier to play them when we're not punching them in the face at the same time. At least that's been my experience.

Wait a minute, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the way to get you fellow posters to go along with what I want is to insult you. Who wants to be first?

Chavez has come to this country, my country, and called my President "Satan" and has been since embraced.

We now have idiots in the party that has embraced Hugo trying to railroad their own in vengeance based trials lying that it is to get us back on some imaginary moral high ground.

I am mad as hell.

[RedStatePaPa]

:rolleyes: Isolationism does not work and that is what we've created in the past several years, I mean, do YOU like a nosey neighbor?

:hand:

Foolish comparison. Nosey neighbors don't usually blow up your pets.

Look don't try and spin isolationism on us.. We know that isolationism doesn't work, we've been telling you that for years now.

Get your accusasion straight. Is it interventionalist or isolationist?

Can you use smallers names, these ones are hard to type.

[RedStatePaPa]

Treating with dictators creates respect in the world?

We carpet bombed the wrong countries in WW II.

redstatepapa is getting irritated.

[toreyj01]

No good deed should go unpunished...

[RedStatePaPa]

We're a nation full of the best salespeople in the world. We should use that skill to our advantage. Then we get what we want and don't have to worry about about people trying to kill us.

Are you serious?

OMG :wall:

[RTchoke]

And how many billions will it cost the United States taxpayer to clean it up and remove all of the residual contaminents from Hugo's oil boys?

No kidding. Funny how Chavez "gives" Obama an island that Citgo already offered up to NJ and they said NO at the time and suddenly he's a brilliant ****ing genius for "getting it back". :rolleyes:

This whole process of Citgo getting rid of the island has been on-going and was finalized in January by NJ. Obama didn't suddenly make a light shine upon Chavez and compel him to give it away as a sign of unity or friendship. Obama had nothing to do with this deal.

[RedStatePaPa]

I guess my question is why did he do this? What is in it for him??

and to the OP... I turly feel the love... I am so glad that we are all now friends and are being so good to each other... I was thinking I didn't like Hugo Chaves, but hell, now that you have pointed this out.. I may just buy some DVD's and a Ipod and send it to him.

lol!!

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

Chavez has come to this country, my country, and called my President "Satan" and has been since embraced.

We now have idiots in the party that has embraced Hugo trying to railroad their own in vengeance based trials lying that it is to get us back on some imaginary moral high ground.

I am mad as hell.

I said we should "play" the other countries. You do know what "play" is don't you.

[mgifford]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8013592.stm



this is what happens when you are nice to other nations, they are nice back.

Sure it may be symbolic, but it could lead to better relations between our two countries.

lol!

[RedStatePaPa]

Well they are already helping President Obama in his plan to give aerospace systems to Syria to update their "dual use" (?) fleet of 747's.

Meanwhile China and Russia are hacking into our systems.


and instead of showing that you can't do this crap to us, Obama bends over.

and clowns here cheer.

I think I'm going to throw up. :sick:

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

Are you serious?

OMG :wall:

Yes, I am serious.

[johnrocks]

:hand:

Foolish comparison. Nosey neighbors don't usually blow up your pets.

Look don't try and spin isolationism on us.. We know that isolationism doesn't work, we've been telling you that for years now.

Get your accusasion straight. Is it interventionalist or isolationist?

Can you use smallers names, these ones are hard to type.

First off, let me state what I added to that quote...That Olive Branch thread was an experiment, I've been told for months now that we need to unite and it was we who would not bulge, that thread proves that this foreign policy is uncompromisable to most, you don't want me to unite, you want me to swallow YOUR failure of a foreign policy!

Interventionism causes isolationism, do you like nosey neighbors? yes or no. Do you mind if foreigners come across OUR border, would you mind if Russia had a Base in Omaha or the Chinese had a fleet of ships in the Gulf? Well, would you be mad and fight,curse,spit and do anything else to beat them back or would you hold their hand like Bush did the Saudi Prince?

[RedStatePaPa]

Why did you say that. I never said anything about him. He's a nut.

Because he is buddies with Chavez.

Hello?

[WildRose]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8013592.stm



This is what happens when you are nice to other nations, they are nice back.

Sure it may be symbolic, but it could lead to better relations between our two countries.So a Venezuelan company (state owned) cedes back ownership of private property they chose not to use back to the US Government . It was always US sovereign territory.

This is done in order to make Obo look like the great diplomat who is "warming relations" with a dictator.

Exactly what is the benefit to the US taxpayer?

[RedStatePaPa]

I'm out of here before my blood pressure blow off the top of my head.

later all.

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

Because he is buddies with Chavez.

Hello?

So you would rather **** everybody off and have to spend a zillion dollars on defense.

Hello?

[mgifford]

Actually, it will belong to all politicians when we become, just "nice little commies".

[LouC]

I guess my question is why did he do this? What is in it for him??...

I already answered that.

He gives up a liability that lies within our borders so it is not like he could do anything he wanted to with it.

It is done for a PR Coup.

It worked.

Just look at the people blathering about "oh happy day diplomacy works" "Obama is making the world love us again".

Now President Obama is beholden to Hugo, which means Hugo has an upper hand.

And just a few weeks ago Hugo was calling Obama an ignoramus.

Now we are to believe he has done a 180 on his feelings about America?

I am not ignorant.

[johnrocks]

Meanwhile China and Russia are hacking into our systems.


and instead of showing that you can't do this crap to us, Obama bends over.

and clowns here cheer.

I think I'm going to throw up. :sick:

We should be ****ed! Kinda looks like them intervening on us, ****es you off:think:

[mgifford]

Besides, the Mega Millions that we Americans spend on Chavez gas is probably the reason we're getting it from them. They're nasty rich from our stupidity.

[LouC]

I said we should "play" the other countries. You do know what "play" is don't you.

Yes.

It is what Obama is currently doing with and to the American people.

[CaughtInTheMiddle]

Yes.

It is what Obama is currently doing with and to the American people.

I love this place.

[mgifford]

Bend over and buy "Citgo" gas and sell a piece of America too. Spend your money at a Citgo and let the American companies watch from across the street.

[LouC]

I love this place.

So do I.

And I do know what you said.

I don't think President Obama is playing Chavez (or anyone outside our borders) and I don't think President Bush punched anyone important in the nose.

[RTchoke]

Obama did nothing. This was voted on and approved by The Natural Lands Trust in NJ in January. His trip did nothing to make this happen. It was already being done. But don't let that stop you libs from drooling over 0bama and thinking he suddenly made Chavez play nice.

[johnrocks]

Obama did nothing. This was voted on and approved by The Natural Lands Trust in NJ in January. His trip did nothing to make this happen. It was already being done. But don't let that stop you libs from drooling over 0bama and thinking he suddenly made Chavez play nice.

If true...thread killed.:mrgreen:

[Beccaria]

Obama did nothing. This was voted on and approved by The Natural Lands Trust in NJ in January. His trip did nothing to make this happen. It was already being done. But don't let that stop you libs from drooling over 0bama and thinking he suddenly made Chavez play nice.

Game. Set. Match.

[BigGuy]

Taking, for a gift, an island from a self professed dictator with multiple civil rights violations, who is slowly silencing any opposition in his country and is leading his country to social and financial ruin? Yeah, it figures Liberals would see that as a good move. They see similar traits it in their own president, of course they want to be friends with that maniac. :rolleyes:

[LouC]

Obama did nothing. This was voted on and approved by The Natural Lands Trust in NJ in January. His trip did nothing to make this happen. It was already being done. But don't let that stop you libs from drooling over 0bama and thinking he suddenly made Chavez play nice.

It doesn't matter what the truth is as long as Obamabots can spin it into:

"Hugo Gives Us Island After Obama Meeting"

[roger teekell]

Obama did nothing. This was voted on and approved by The Natural Lands Trust in NJ in January. His trip did nothing to make this happen. It was already being done. But don't let that stop you libs from drooling over 0bama and thinking he suddenly made Chavez play nice.

Thread Killa!!

[RTchoke]

If true...thread killed.:mrgreen:

It's true. Did nobody read my post #65. :mrgreen: Anyone who bothers to look it up can find it. The Sierra Club of all people were ****ed because NJ originally said no to the deal. I think part of that had to do with not wanting the state to get stuck with the clean up and Citgo getting off free from that plus the plans for resort and such irritated people.


Plans set for N.J. to control Petty's Island

By Adrienne Lu

Inquirer Trenton Bureau
New Jersey has finalized plans to accept the storied and environmentally significant Petty's Island, Gov. Corzine announced yesterday, on Earth Day.

The Natural Lands Trust, created by the Legislature to preserve land and protect nature, voted in January to accept the 392-acre Delaware River island from Citgo Petroleum, the U.S. subsidiary of Venezuela's state-owned oil company. Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez heralded the plans at the Summit of the Americas last weekend, according to Citgo.

"Earth Day is a fitting time to consummate the donation of this special place," said Corzine, who pledged to preserve Petty's Island during his first gubernatorial campaign in 2005.

"Petty's Island has become an important home to bald eagles, kestrels, and a wide variety of waterfowl," he said. "We are opening a new chapter in the island's long history by restoring it and giving it back to nature and the people of New Jersey."

In 2004, the Natural Lands Trust rejected a similar offer from Citgo, which has owned the island for decades, under political pressure to develop it. A development company in Raleigh, N.C., had planned a golf course, a hotel and conference center, and 300 homes for the island, which offers views of Philadelphia and Camden, but the proposal was abandoned when the real estate market softened.

http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local/nj/20090423_Plans_set_for_N_J__to_control_Petty_s_Isl and.html

[kwc57]

I'm out of here before my blood pressure blow off the top of my head.

later all.

This is just a forum on the internet. It is entertainment. We are not going to change the world here. Breathe. Relax.

[RTchoke]

It doesn't matter what the truth is as long as Obamabots can spin it into:

"Hugo Gives Us Island After Obama Meeting"

This is exactly what they have been doing. Something that was started years ago by NJ and Citgo and finally worked out and approved in Jaunary now suddenly happened only because 0bama shook Chavez's hand. :rolleyes:

............and people wonder how so many could get duped into voting for this fraud.

[Mojotiger]

Classic thread...

[LouC]

This is exactly what they have been doing. Something that was started years ago by NJ and Citgo and finally worked out and approved in Jaunary now suddenly happened only because 0bama shook Chavez's hand. :rolleyes:

............and people wonder how so many could get duped into voting for this fraud.

Yup the unengaged and the uninformed will be easily duped always.

NBC Philadelphia LINK (http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/us_world/Chavez-Gave-Obama-an-Island-Too.html)

Last week at the Summit of the Americas in Trinidad and Tobago, the leftist leader gave President Obama a book called “The Open Veins of Latin America” by Eduardo Galeano.

But the text, which shot up the Amazon sales charts afterward, was a mere pittance compared with another, less widely reported gift.

Chavez gave Obama an island.

Yes, an island.

Actually this is years in the making and has years to go, with finalization of the deal not until 2020.

LINK (http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/04/venezuela_president_looms_over.html)

Venezuela president Hugo Chavez cast his shadow over what was to be a ceremonial transfer today of Petty's Island to New Jersey for use as a wildlife preserve.

Citgo Petroleum, the Venezuelan-owned oil firm that owns the island in the Delaware River, offered to give the island to New Jersey years ago and struck the final deal with the state in January.

[Rurudyne]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8013592.stm



This is what happens when you are nice to other nations, they are nice back.

Sure it may be symbolic, but it could lead to better relations between our two countries.
RTchoke's posts (should have) killed this thread quite ably. I've got nothing to add.

[Getty Girl]

Neocons confuse fear for respect. It has been in the not so distant past and should be the future goal of the US to be respected, not feared. They are already aware that we can blow them all the hell up 500 times over.

boot lickers don't get respect. ever.