"We were not told waterboarding used" Pelosi

[zantax]

Breaking

Pelosi denying she was briefed on waterboarding.

Liar liar, skirt on fire

[Mojotiger]

She can't be dumb enough to do this. She has an "out" somewhere.

[CrusaderFrank]

She's a ****ing lying ****, you heard it here first

[stodr]

She is counting on Holder and Obamma to no release the info and names.

[GibsonSG]

She is a liar, and yes, she Can be that dumb.

Check out her website and video, she's a complete moron.

[ksdb]

Perhaps she'll pull a Jo.Ke. "We voted for it before we voted agin it."

[zantax]

Going for a technicality most likely.

from http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/08/AR2007120801664_2.html

Pelosi declined to comment directly on her reaction to the classified briefings. But a congressional source familiar with Pelosi's position on the matter said the California lawmaker did recall discussions about enhanced interrogation. The source said Pelosi recalls that techniques described by the CIA were still in the planning stage -- they had been designed and cleared with agency lawyers but not yet put in practice -- and acknowledged that Pelosi did not raise objections at the time.

As in, "They told us about it but my goodness gracious, we never imagined they planned to use it". Any libs buying that?

[MrShotShot]

I'm sure there are a few bars in her district where people get waterboarded for fun.

[Trinka]

She is counting on Holder and Obamma to no release the info and names.

Her lie will be revealed some how....things get leaked every day...and this is just tooooo gooood for it NOT to be leaked....She's lying!!

[Mojotiger]

Going for a technicality most likely.

from http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/08/AR2007120801664_2.html



As in, "They told us about it but my goodness gracious, we never imagined they planned to use it". Any libs buying that?

Depends on how great their thirst for vengeance is. She may worth sacrificing if they can get bigger fish.

[Trinka]

I just saw her on tv...saying I didn't know...we were told what it is and that we'd be told ....if...they ever decided to use it...BUT...we were never told..........ya right

[RowdyTexan]

Her lips are moving, aren't they? She's lying. :))

[Silentnomore]

I just saw her on tv...saying I didn't know...we were told what it is and that we'd be told ....if...they ever decided to use it...BUT...we were never told..........ya right

:)) She is SO lying

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

Breaking

Pelosi denying she was briefed on waterboarding.

Liar liar, skirt on fire

She's lying though her teeth. The four top congresscritters from both sides of the aisle were briefed, though they weren't allowed to write anything down or have an aide backbenching.

[LouC]

She can't be dumb enough to do this. She has an "out" somewhere.

She has a couple of "outs".

The briefing was not recorded.

Eric Holder.

[Iggy]

Going for a technicality most likely.

from http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/08/AR2007120801664_2.html



As in, "They told us about it but my goodness gracious, we never imagined they planned to use it". Any libs buying that?

Kind of like "Yeah, we voted to give the President the authority to invade Iraq, but we never dreamed he'd do it!

Always someone else's fault.

[WJStafford]

I've got some ocean front property in Arizona...

From my front porch you can see the sea...

[E7ALR]

She's lying though her teeth. The four top congresscritters from both sides of the aisle were briefed, though they weren't allowed to write anything down or have an aide backbenching.It's not even a good lie. Nancy brags in her official congressional bio that she is the record holder for the longest serving member of the House Intelligence Committee. She served 10 years, from 1996 to 2006, and was Senior Democratic member for the last two of those years. She can't claim that she was some uninformed mushroom.

[RTchoke]

I've got some ocean front property in Arizona...

From my front porch you can see the sea...

I love George Straight.

Pelosi..................not so much.:sick:

[E7ALR]

She has a couple of "outs".

The briefing was not recorded.

Eric Holder.Except that the memos would be part of the original briefings and part of the continuous semi-annual congressional briefings, required by EO 12333, which was in effect at the time, for as long as the activitiy continued.

[Tom394]

I love George Straight.

Pelosi..................not so much.:sick:

Pelosi is the Wicked Witch of the West, to put it mildly. :))

[Justus]

Well... At least more Americans think we're heading in the right direction...

[penner01]

It's not even a good lie. Nancy brags in her official congressional bio that she is the record holder for the longest serving member of the House Intelligence Committee. She served 10 years, from 1996 to 2006, and was Senior Democratic member for the last two of those years. She can't claim that she was some uninformed mushroom.just mushroom works though

[Darkwind]

I maintain that waterboarding is not torture. Therefore I maintain that Pelosi is innocent of committing a crime.

These techniques saved who knows how many American and our allied lives. It was something that HAD to be done.

It is way past time that we as a nation wake up and realize, that you sometimes have to do distasteful things to protect the people you love and war is one of those times.

Grow a pair America and show a little spine already.

[penner01]

She's lying though her teeth. The four top congresscritters from both sides of the aisle were briefed, though they weren't allowed to write anything down or have an aide backbenching.If I was one of those four and was asked if my version supported her claim - I just might sacrifice myself to bring her down.

[bigtwnvin]

Two disturbing things:
1. Ms Pelosi claims to be a "record holder" as a member of the House Intel. Committee and now can't recall being "briefed" on matters concerning US Intelligence!. :doh:
2. People continue to vote for this knobhead. :rolleyes:

[penner01]

I maintain that waterboarding is not torture. Therefore I maintain that Pelosi is innocent of committing a crime.

These techniques saved who knows how many American and our allied lives. It was something that HAD to be done.

It is way past time that we as a nation wake up and realize, that you sometimes have to do distasteful things to protect the people you love and war is one of those times.

Grow a pair America and show a little spine already.It has nothing to do with her committing a crime. I'm ****ed about her public feigned indignation at soeone else's expense that they would do it when she knew about it all along. She is as culpable as anybody whether or not it rises to the level of crime.

[Darkwind]

If I was one of those four and was asked if my version supported her claim - I just might sacrifice myself to bring her down.Bring her down for what?

Of the four and our intelligence community, they knew that this needed to be done and did it. It saved lives.

The only reason we are even discussing this is because George Soros & his merry band of nutjob losers wants to do everything they can to discredit any republican without thought to the cost to this country.

Screw the nut jobs and those who think that what we did was somehow illegal.

Get over it. It was not and we should continue to do everything we can to protect this country.

[Alanisaconservative]

Ive got a serious question
WHO PUTS THESE PEOPLE IN OFFICE???
really, how are people so DOOOPED?

[RedStatePaPa]

There were several others in on those meetings. She was not kept in the dark, she is quite simply, protecting her backside.

Someone either didn't think this through very carefully or didn't think people would find out.

:rolleyes:

And they are running the show?

[penner01]

I heard a guy on the radio talking about Pelosi the other day. He was describing her hair do and said that if it was he that woke up every monring with a ferret on his head he certainly would just comb it and go to work. :)) I think that ferret has its tongue in her ear.

[Darkwind]

It has nothing to do with her committing a crime. I'm ****ed about her public feigned indignation at soeone else's expense that they would do it when she knew about it all along. She is as culpable as anybody whether or not it rises to the level of crime.There is nothing to be culpable of.

The fact that she is trying to distance herself from this is just her nature. She is a cockroach and will scurry away from any light shed upon her, be that good light or bad.

[RedStatePaPa]

I'm starting to think that I want the dems to bring Bush, Cheney and the rest on trial.

I'd like to get this cleared up once and for all and have the liears and hypocrites exposed.

[PSBandit]

Wait... Im sure this MUST be the fault of Boooooooooooooosh.

[homiebrah]

In September 2002, four members of Congress met in secret for a first look at a unique CIA program designed to wring vital information from reticent terrorism suspects in U.S. custody. For more than an hour, the bipartisan group, which included current House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/p000197) (D-Calif.), was given a virtual tour of the CIA's overseas detention sites and the harsh techniques interrogators had devised to try to make their prisoners talk.

Among the techniques described, said two officials present, was waterboarding, a practice that years later would be condemned as torture by Democrats and some Republicans on Capitol Hill. But on that day, no objections were raised. Instead, at least two lawmakers in the room asked the CIA to push harder, two U.S. officials said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/08/AR2007120801664.html

Busted.

[timjy]

I'm starting to think that I want the dems to bring Bush, Cheney and the rest on trial.

I'd like to get this cleared up once and for all and have the liears and hypocrites exposed.
with the clowns that will run this three ringer like holder.i do not trust that they will be exposed.pelosi knows how to cover her butt.

[WJStafford]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/08/AR2007120801664.html

Busted.

you must be mistaken...that's not the Nancy Pelosi I know... [sarcasm off]

You think that article will ever make it to the main stream?

[upsetmom]

she has to do it.

obama realized when he said he wanted to go after Bush administration people who authorized the use of the legal means to extract information to prevent further loss of life, his net was going to catch a lot of democrats.

ooops.

this is just preparation for an escape hatch.

she knew, was briefed, and voted for it.

the proof is likely being dug up as we speak and she'll be exposed as a fraud.

again.

and it won't make the news.

again.

[Darkwind]

I'm starting to think that I want the dems to bring Bush, Cheney and the rest on trial.

I'd like to get this cleared up once and for all and have the liears and hypocrites exposed.I thought of that too. But then I would be wanting to prosecute someone for doing something I don't think is wrong or against the law.

Sucks having standards...

[PSBandit]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/08/AR2007120801664.html

Busted.

Ouchie :))

[sandy_j]

Her lips are moving, aren't they? She's lying. :))
Exactly what I was going to say. :))

[homiebrah]

you must be mistaken...that's not the Nancy Pelosi I know... [sarcasm off]

You think that article will ever make it to the main stream?
It's an old article, but I purposefully chose one from the "accepted" sources so the usual suspects that live here couldn't use the "not credible source" card they carry in their wallets.

[Alanisaconservative]

Her lips are moving, aren't they? She's lying. :))

I don't know...I havent seen her lips move in a while from all the botox

[B' en Natuf]

Except that the memos would be part of the original briefings and part of the continuous semi-annual congressional briefings, required by EO 12333, which was in effect at the time, for as long as the activitiy continued.Hey,
Thats something only Dick Cheney is supposed to know, and we all know he's not a "reliable source" the human truth detector read it in her billing records.

[Blindeye101]

I'm sure there are a few bars in her district where people get waterboarded for fun.

Or College campuses that use Beer instead of water.

[upsetmom]

I'm starting to think that I want the dems to bring Bush, Cheney and the rest on trial.

I'd like to get this cleared up once and for all and have the liears and hypocrites exposed.bovine excrement.

what's the underlying law that was broken?

They're not going to go after the guys who actually DID the interrogation - the actual "crime" (which I vehemently disagree was a crime, btw)

they want to go after the people who offered a legal opinion, based on the tortue statutes and existing law.

so, if we allow politically based witch hunts from one administration to the next, where do you suppose that leaves this country?

every day this administration gets more and more despicable.

[PSBandit]

I don't know...I havent seen her lips move in a while from all the botox

The skin on her face is so tight when she blinks her lips do in fact move too.

[Darkwind]

The skin on her face is so tight when she blinks her lips do in fact move too.:)):))

Its a non-voluntary reflex...

[RedStatePaPa]

bovine excrement.

what's the underlying law that was broken?

They're not going to go after the guys who actually DID the interrogation - the actual "crime" (which I vehemently disagree was a crime, btw)

they want to go after the people who offered a legal opinion, based on the tortue statutes and existing law.

so, if we allow politically based witch hunts from one administration to the next, where do you suppose that leaves this country?

every day this administration gets more and more despicable.

I agree. I don't think it was a crime either. Back at the time they approved it, neither side thought it was a crime. Somehow that little factoid got buried and it became a huge rallying cry for the moonbats.

Lets have a trial and bring it up. Lets get it out in the open that the very same people crying over it, had already approved it.

You know, that whole transparency thing.

[ValricoKate]

just mushroom works though

I thought Feinstein was the peyote and clam dip gal ...Pelosi too?
:doh:




^ "old doonesbury reference" for the young uns

[upsetmom]

even the nyt knows obama's game.


Even President Obama (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per)’s new director of national intelligence, Dennis C. Blair (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/dennis_c_blair/index.html?inline=nyt-per), wrote in a memorandum to his staff last week that “high value information came from interrogations in which these methods were used,” an assertion left out when the memorandum was edited for public release. By contrast, Mr. Obama and most of his top aides have argued that the use of those methods betrayed American values — and anyway, produced unreliable information. Those are a convenient pair of opinions, of course: the moral balancing would be far trickier if the C.I.A. methods were demonstrated to have been crucial in disrupting major plots.
For both sides, the political stakes are high, as proposals for a national commission to unravel the interrogation story appear to be gaining momentum. Mr. Obama and his allies need to discredit the techniques he has banned. Otherwise, in the event of a future terrorist attack, critics may blame his decision to rein in C.I.A. interrogators (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/c/central_intelligence_agency/cia_interrogations/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier).

[ValricoKate]

Breaking

Pelosi denying she was briefed on waterboarding.

Liar liar, skirt on fire

What did she know and when did she know it?


What did she know and when did she know it?




What did she know and when did she know it?

[ValricoKate]

What did she know and when did she know it?

[DaveKlassix]

Breaking

Pelosi denying she was briefed on waterboarding.

Liar liar, skirt on fire

More like liar liar, broomstick on fire.

[East TN Welshman]

Bush has more control over this situation than anyone realizes. He could absolutely blast Pelosi and a few other Democrats on this issue. He has the authority to authorize release (through the National Archives) of White House diaries, meeting schedules, memos, and anything else related to his Presidential Records under the old Executive Order Obama restored.

The beauty of it is that, in order to block the release of these records, Obama would have to resort to a claim of Executive Privilege.

Obama blocking the release of Presidential Records on the very subject he authorized release for with these memos. The teleprompter couldn't protect him from that wondrous irony.

He opened Pandora's Box in this act of political gamesmanship. Now he'd better hope the Bush folks don't start playing a few games of their own with this.

[Darkwind]

Bush has more control over this situation than anyone realizes. He could absolutely blast Pelosi and a few other Democrats on this issue. He has the authority to authorize release (through the National Archives) of White House diaries, meeting schedules, memos, and anything else related to his Presidential Records under the old Executive Order Obama restored.

The beauty of it is that, in order to block the release of these records, Obama would have to resort to a claim of Executive Privilege.

Obama blocking the release of Presidential Records on the very subject he authorized release for with these memos. The teleprompter couldn't protect him from that wondrous irony.

He opened Pandora's Box in this act of political gamesmanship. Now he'd better hope the Bush folks don't start playing a few games of their own with this.yeah? Someone should write Bush and tell him about this.

[upsetmom]

I agree. I don't think it was a crime either. Back at the time they approved it, neither side thought it was a crime. Somehow that little factoid got buried and it became a huge rallying cry for the moonbats.

Lets have a trial and bring it up. Lets get it out in the open that the very same people crying over it, had already approved it.

You know, that whole transparency thing.
see, this is where I disagree.

they don't WANT to prosecute the "actual" anything. They want to accuse, put people on the stand under oath, and attack them. It will cost those people hundreds of thousands of dollars that they have no way of recouping (the "government" is immune from repaying court costs) and it will ruin them. THAT is the agenda.

There IS NO LAW THAT WAS BROKEN. The legal opinion was the consensus at the time, even by nancy pelousi, and the administration acted accordingly.

After 9/11, GWB knew we needed to catch up to the appalling lack of intel. He asked the legal team to determine, within the guidelines of the tortue statute and existing laws, what the line was that we could not cross. He then took that information, and instructed the CIA and FBI (the wimps) to use agressive tactics within the confines of those parameters, in order to best protect the country. EVEN the imposter's director of national intelligence wrote

“high value information came from interrogations in which these methods were used,”

which was left out when the memorandum was edited for public release.

The bottom line, as even the ny times said ~

Mr. Obama and his allies need to discredit the techniques he has banned. Otherwise, in the event of a future terrorist attack, critics may blame his decision to rein in C.I.A. interrogators (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/c/central_intelligence_agency/cia_interrogations/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier).


it's POLITICAL.

why would you be in favor of putting innocent people through that?

[timjy]

Now it is a witch hunt

[upsetmom]

Bush has more control over this situation than anyone realizes. He could absolutely blast Pelosi and a few other Democrats on this issue. He has the authority to authorize release (through the National Archives) of White House diaries, meeting schedules, memos, and anything else related to his Presidential Records under the old Executive Order Obama restored.

The beauty of it is that, in order to block the release of these records, Obama would have to resort to a claim of Executive Privilege.

Obama blocking the release of Presidential Records on the very subject he authorized release for with these memos. The teleprompter couldn't protect him from that wondrous irony.

He opened Pandora's Box in this act of political gamesmanship. Now he'd better hope the Bush folks don't start playing a few games of their own with this.
unlike obama, GWB understands the long range implications of this "gamesmanship game" and won't damage the country further by playing it.

[RTchoke]

Now it is a witch hunt

Something I can actually agree with McCain on. He also states this is nothing more than a witch hunt.

[upsetmom]

Now it is a witch huntyes it is.

[kilwil888]

bovine excrement.

what's the underlying law that was broken?

They're not going to go after the guys who actually DID the interrogation - the actual "crime" (which I vehemently disagree was a crime, btw)

they want to go after the people who offered a legal opinion, based on the tortue statutes and existing law.

so, if we allow politically based witch hunts from one administration to the next, where do you suppose that leaves this country?

every day this administration gets more and more despicable.

I agree! :clap:

[East TN Welshman]

unlike obama, GWB understands the long range implications of this "gamesmanship game" and won't damage the country further by playing it.

For the protection of future national security officials, I think it is game Bush should consider joining. If he doesn't, then I fear we're going to see President after President not getting the kind of advice he needs to make an informed decision as the advisors will be too worried about prosecution to give him anything more than a wishy-washy memo on any topic.

[Cutiepie]

oh my. All that finger pointing Pelosi did, I guess she didn't realize that there were 3 pointing back at her.

[Darkwind]

see, this is where I disagree.

they don't WANT to prosecute the "actual" anything. They want to accuse, put people on the stand under oath, and attack them. It will cost those people hundreds of thousands of dollars that they have no way of recouping (the "government" is immune from repaying court costs) and it will ruin them. THAT is the agenda.

There IS NO LAW THAT WAS BROKEN. The legal opinion was the consensus at the time, even by nancy pelousi, and the administration acted accordingly.

After 9/11, GWB knew we needed to catch up to the appalling lack of intel. He asked the legal team to determine, within the guidelines of the tortue statute and existing laws, what the line was that we could not cross. He then took that information, and instructed the CIA and FBI (the wimps) to use agressive tactics within the confines of those parameters, in order to best protect the country. EVEN the imposter's director of national intelligence wrote


which was left out when the memorandum was edited for public release.

The bottom line, as even the ny times said ~



it's POLITICAL.

why would you be in favor of putting innocent people through that?It is even worse then that.

They are trying to set a precedence that will destroy this country.

In essence, they are saying that we do not agree with the policies of the past Administration and as a consequence, since I don't agree with their ideology, I'm going to prosecute those responsible.

This will set into motion a tit-for-tat game that this country simply cannot afford.

The Democrats need to wake up to this. Because if they do it, the Republicans will as well the next time they are in power and from that point on, no POTUS will ever be able to make a decision for fear of going to jail after they are out of office.

It simply cannot be allowed to happen.

[BasicGreatGuy]

I believe Nancy is a filthy liar.

[RedStatePaPa]

see, this is where I disagree.

they don't WANT to prosecute the "actual" anything. They want to accuse, put people on the stand under oath, and attack them. It will cost those people hundreds of thousands of dollars that they have no way of recouping (the "government" is immune from repaying court costs) and it will ruin them. THAT is the agenda.

There IS NO LAW THAT WAS BROKEN. The legal opinion was the consensus at the time, even by nancy pelousi, and the administration acted accordingly.

After 9/11, GWB knew we needed to catch up to the appalling lack of intel. He asked the legal team to determine, within the guidelines of the tortue statute and existing laws, what the line was that we could not cross. He then took that information, and instructed the CIA and FBI (the wimps) to use agressive tactics within the confines of those parameters, in order to best protect the country. EVEN the imposter's director of national intelligence wrote


which was left out when the memorandum was edited for public release.

The bottom line, as even the ny times said ~



it's POLITICAL.

why would you be in favor of putting innocent people through that?

:/ I never said I wanted to put innocent people through anything. Please do not use that projection crap on me. :)

Here is where it gets comical. I don't think Obama expected this to have legs. He has been listening to moonbat propaganda his whole life. In my opinion they didn't want this to blow up like this at all, I think this was just started as a smokescreen to stop the public from scrutinizing his policies. He hasn't exactly been a huge success so far.

In the past, republicans just seemd to roll oever and take it and I guess he thought the same thing was going to happen again.

But cheney woke up. Then that old article (from WAPO no less) surfaces and suddenly the **** has hit the fan.

[RedStatePaPa]

unlike obama, GWB understands the long range implications of this "gamesmanship game" and won't damage the country further by playing it.

No, you know what? Enough with the Mr. Nice Guy routine.

Bush needs to put the stirrups to the libs right now. Dig them right in.

We've played nice for 8 years and look where that got us. We ended up with the most despicable turd imaginable running the country.

[lsue]

:)) She is SO lying



Bring on the investigations!!! Can we waterboard her???

Her brows may raise a few inches higher, lol.

[Linda12834]

I believe Nancy is a filthy liar.

...and as phony as a 3 dollar bill

[RedStatePaPa]

It is even worse then that.

They are trying to set a precedence that will destroy this country.

In essence, they are saying that we do not agree with the policies of the past Administration and as a consequence, since I don't agree with their ideology, I'm going to prosecute those responsible.

This will set into motion a tit-for-tat game that this country simply cannot afford.

The Democrats need to wake up to this. Because if they do it, the Republicans will as well the next time they are in power and from that point on, no POTUS will ever be able to make a decision for fear of going to jail after they are out of office.

It simply cannot be allowed to happen.

exactly.

[East TN Welshman]

yeah? Someone should write Bush and tell him about this.

Darkwind...he knows. His lawyers know and I'm certain Dick Cheney knows that his records collection is also covered by this EO.

I think they're going to bide their time and wait for Fearless Leader to keep building the petard.

[Darkwind]

Darkwind...he knows. His lawyers know and I'm certain Dick Cheney knows that his records collection is also covered by this EO.

I think they're going to bide their time and wait for Fearless Leader to keep building the petard.Good luck with that.

I think that he is going to cut brush and make love to his wife and hope he does not get prosecuted by the rabid radicals that are now in power.

I really don't think he has the instinct needed to protect himself. He was however, a Lion when protecting America and for that I will be forever grateful.

[Darkwind]

exactly.I really am worried that they will succeed in doing this.

No foreign enemy could have hoped to achieve such a victory over us.

[in4sit]

I feel the Clinton days coming back again... "Depends on what "this" is" or what "sexual relations" means.....

Nancy will do the same thing.. "I didn't know what waterboarding was."

[upsetmom]

No, you know what? Enough with the Mr. Nice Guy routine.

Bush needs to put the stirrups to the libs right now. Dig them right in.

We've played nice for 8 years and look where that got us. We ended up with the most despicable turd imaginable running the country.
Oh, I think it WILL get played, but not by a former President of the US attacking another President of the US because they have differing policy opinions. THAT would do even MORE damage than this utterly disgusting ploy of obama's. It would literally, never end.

No, it will be "handled" by probably Cheney, but also likely the legal staff.

......and I wasn't running "projection" crap on you. It was a rhetorical question. I simply disagreed with you about putting people on trial.

[lsue]

Bush has more control over this situation than anyone realizes. He could absolutely blast Pelosi and a few other Democrats on this issue. He has the authority to authorize release (through the National Archives) of White House diaries, meeting schedules, memos, and anything else related to his Presidential Records under the old Executive Order Obama restored.

The beauty of it is that, in order to block the release of these records, Obama would have to resort to a claim of Executive Privilege.

Obama blocking the release of Presidential Records on the very subject he authorized release for with these memos. The teleprompter couldn't protect him from that wondrous irony.

He opened Pandora's Box in this act of political gamesmanship. Now he'd better hope the Bush folks don't start playing a few games of their own with this.


I'm liking the sound of that. Stupid libs never learn.

[upsetmom]

Good luck with that.

I think that he is going to cut brush and make love to his wife and hope he does not get prosecuted by the rabid radicals that are now in power.

I really don't think he has the instinct needed to protect himself. He was however, a Lion when protecting America and for that I will be forever grateful.I agree he will likely cut brush and make love to his wife. He is probably unbelievably happy to be out of the line of fire...........but I think you misjudge him.

He said, when asked why he didn't answer the petty critics ~ (paraphrasing) ......because every morning I read the intel report, and there are so many things which are more important.

......and I think he sees the bigger picture with this. It would not DO for a former President to attack a sitting one. It would set a precedent nearly as damaging as the one obama is setting. obama is a neophyte, but Bush knows exactly what the repercussions are.

I believe he will ensure it is done, but I do not think HE will openly criticize obama. He is no jimmeh cahtah.

[Darkwind]

I agree he will likely cut brush and make love to his wife. He is probably unbelievably happy to be out of the line of fire...........but I think you misjudge him.

He said, when asked why he didn't answer the petty critics ~ (paraphrasing) ......because every morning I read the intel report, and there are so many things which are more important.

......and I think he sees the bigger picture with this. It would not DO for a former President to attack a sitting one. It would set a precedent nearly as damaging as the one obama is setting. obama is a neophyte, but Bush knows exactly what the repercussions are.

I believe he will ensure it is done, but I do not think HE will openly criticize obama. He is no jimmeh cahtah.yeah, well. Your right in that I think he looked at the big picture and that he thinks a former President should not criticize a sitting President. It shows he has a depth of character that Mr. Obama lacks. Hell, that nearly all of those in power currently lack. But I think that he would just as soon sit back and let things take their natural course right now.

He likely doesn't much disagree with the economic direction that is being implemented.

[Plasmaball]

we got a link yet?

got it

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Pelosi_denies_prior_knowledge_of_waterboarding_042 3.html

[RedStatePaPa]

Oh, I think it WILL get played, but not by a former President of the US attacking another President of the US because they have differing policy opinions. THAT would do even MORE damage than this utterly disgusting ploy of obama's. It would literally, never end.

No, it will be "handled" by probably Cheney, but also likely the legal staff.

......and I wasn't running "projection" crap on you. It was a rhetorical question. I simply disagreed with you about putting people on trial.
ok no problems. :hug:

Bush won't do it but I think we should pull out all the stops at this point.

[RedStatePaPa]

I agree he will likely cut brush and make love to his wife. He is probably unbelievably happy to be out of the line of fire...........but I think you misjudge him.

He said, when asked why he didn't answer the petty critics ~ (paraphrasing) ......because every morning I read the intel report, and there are so many things which are more important.

......and I think he sees the bigger picture with this. It would not DO for a former President to attack a sitting one. It would set a precedent nearly as damaging as the one obama is setting. obama is a neophyte, but Bush knows exactly what the repercussions are.

I believe he will ensure it is done, but I do not think HE will openly criticize obama. He is no jimmeh cahtah.

As nobel as that may have been, he made a tactical error there. By not responding to libs ridiculous lies, he left the door wide open for them and they had free reign over what was talked about.

[jaggy]

"We were not told waterboarding used" Pelosi



I smell BS she's a lying fraud , the terrorist are rejoicing this somewhere,this bunch of coward terrorist loving leftists is unbelievable.she's lucky she live in a safe district blue state or she’d have been out a job long ago.

[RedStatePaPa]

we got a link yet?

got it

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Pelosi_denies_prior_knowledge_of_waterboarding_042 3.html

"Senator Bob Graham, Democrat of Florida, who was committee chairman in 2002, said in an interview that he did not recall ever being briefed on the methods, though government officials with access to records say all four committee leaders received multiple briefings," reported the Times.

"[Rep. Pete] Hoekstra (R-MI), the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, has personally requested from Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair an unclassified list of names of all members of Congress who attended those briefings, complete with dates and locations," reported Fox.

"None of the Democrats took any action against the CIA program while they were charged with its oversight while they were responsible for oversight," opined Larry Clifton with Digital Journal. "A growing number of Americans believe that if there is going to be an investigation, it should start with Nancy Pelosi among others, however the Democratic Party is only interested in investigating Republicans."

The first reported torture briefings took place in 2002. Republicans controlled Congress until 2006.

On Thursday, Pelosi said she supports a "truth commission" to investigate the Bush administration's use of torture.
This is going to get ugly.

[waynevan]

I think Obama cooked this whole thing up to GET RID OF Pelosi. Hell I'd do damn near anything not to have to work with that woman.

[BandNerd04]

From Plasmaball's link...

"My colleague [Porter Goss], the chairman of the committee, has said 'if they say that it's legal you have to know they are going to use them,'" she said. "Well, his experience is that he was a member of the CIA, later went on to head the CIA and maybe his experience is that if they tell you one thing they may mean something else. My experience is that they did not tell us they were using that. Flat out. And any -- any contention to the contrary is simply not true."

"Pelosi said her recollection was, 'They told us they had opinions from the [Justice Department’s] Office of Legal Counsel that they could, but not that they were' using so-called enhanced techniques, 'and that if and when they were used, they would brief Congress at that time,'" reported Congressional Quarterly (http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000003101913). "She said she was never told that such techniques were actually being used."

"'As a member of Intelligence, I thought I was being briefed. I realized that was not true when I became ranking member' and got more information, she said," according to CQ Politics.

What is she, now? A victim, too? :))

This is so poetic.

Keep gasping at power, libs; you'll wake up one day a victim of your own intentions, powerless stop to what you began. :clap:

[SweetTalkin'Woman]

I almost hope they do go through with the lawsuit....Mark Levin has already offered his services and I would PAY to watch Mark rip all these Dems a new one about what they knew. He's all fired up about it :))

[Trip]

I maintain that waterboarding is not torture. Therefore I maintain that Pelosi is innocent of committing a crime.

These techniques saved who knows how many American and our allied lives. It was something that HAD to be done.

It is way past time that we as a nation wake up and realize, that you sometimes have to do distasteful things to protect the people you love and war is one of those times.

Grow a pair America and show a little spine already.

I'm all for getting Pelosi under oath. I'm tired of her patter and witless smiles and seal-like clapping for Obama.

Get her under oath and ask her some questions. Then we'll see what sort of chestnuts she has.

[Plasmaball]

I have no problem taking them all down.
Shame on these people.
Left and right

[penner01]

I almost hope they do go through with the lawsuit....Mark Levin has already offered his services and I would PAY to watch Mark rip all these Dems a new one about what they knew. He's all fired up about it :))I've listened to him go on about it.......that would be something to watch for sure. Let em try to avoid one his questions, huh....

[Darkwind]

I'm all for getting Pelosi under oath. I'm tired of her patter and witless smiles and seal-like clapping for Obama.

Get her under oath and ask her some questions. Then we'll see what sort of chestnuts she has.Of course. I am sure there are other things that she would not want out in the public eye.

But as to the matter of water boarding. It is not illegal, immoral or wrong when applied to our enemies.

[fava]

Pelosi using the Sergeant Schultz defense:
"I know nothing!"

http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:F5gdQbnfvHsOfM::www.hogansheroesfancl ub

[zantax]

Oh and by the way, Jane Harman put a letter opposing waterboarding into the record, kind of hard to do if she was never briefed on it.

[LouC]

Oh and by the way, Jane Harman put a letter opposing waterboarding into the record, kind of hard to do if she was never briefed on it.

I wished I could believe it would matter when the witch trials begin in earnest but I don't see it happening.

[tobybear]

Pelosi Lied... ...Terrorists Cried! :D

[tobybear]

Pelosi using the Sergeant Schultz defense:
"I know nothing!"

http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:F5gdQbnfvHsOfM::www.hogansheroesfancl ub

Works for Odumba!

[zantax]

Time and CNN already gave the democrats a pass but didn't entertain the notion they weren't briefed back in December of 2007

from http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2007/12/09/waterboard_memories/

Now, there is going to be a lot of shouting and breast-beating over this. Republicans will say, "See! See! The Democrats knew all along!" Some of the more extreme elements on the left-wing of the Democratic Party will lapse into their traditional wailing about the Bush-appeasing weakness of their party leaders. But the Washington Post reporters and their sources make clear that these briefings took place in the months after the September 11 attacks. There was fear that we would be attacked again by terrorists, and on a regular basis. Few were thinking clearly about the nature of the threat and how to deal with it. (By the time Harman was briefed, in 2003, people were thinking more clearly--hence her letter of protest.)

[RedStatePaPa]

Oh and by the way, Jane Harman put a letter opposing waterboarding into the record, kind of hard to do if she was never briefed on it.

oh snap!

[RedStatePaPa]

Time and CNN already gave the democrats a pass but didn't entertain the notion they weren't briefed back in December of 2007

from http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2007/12/09/waterboard_memories/

No accountability at all.

[zantax]

And Nancy's hair splitting is irrelevent, so she claims she didn't know it had been done but only approved for use and that makes a difference how? Is she telling us she can only object to a "criminal" torture after it has been used but not when it has been approved for use? Does that make any sense to anyone?

[Greyghost]

Each day I get more and more fed up with this government and especially the current administration and congress. They do nothing for the people. It nothing but self interest and pushing the agenda of their party. What happened to the time when elected officials actually represented the people and worked for the people? These people should be held accountable and put on trial when this country collapses in on itself.

[fava]

Pelosi **** in her nest.

[bella-day]

It is even worse then that.

They are trying to set a precedence that will destroy this country.

In essence, they are saying that we do not agree with the policies of the past Administration and as a consequence, since I don't agree with their ideology, I'm going to prosecute those responsible.

This will set into motion a tit-for-tat game that this country simply cannot afford.

The Democrats need to wake up to this. Because if they do it, the Republicans will as well the next time they are in power and from that point on, no POTUS will ever be able to make a decision for fear of going to jail after they are out of office.

It simply cannot be allowed to happen.

Very well said!

[fava]

The new banana republic. The new President for life hauling the old President for life before the firing squad for the retroactive law just passed making everything the old President did a crime.

[DavidC]

The new banana republic. The new President for life hauling the old President for life before the firing squad for the retroactive law just passed making everything the old President did a crime.


Well said---sad to say...this is true.

"Banana Republic, I like the sound of the word, it means politicians can live free, lie free........." (my apologies to John Wayne)

But they aren't going to get away with it, because people (even the libs) are going to wise up.

Aren't you libs....going to wise up in time?

This is more then Bush making mistakes...not finding WMDs, being the worst president at Public Relations ever.....after the worst attack on US soil Ever.....That anger has allowed the banana republic to appear. All the dreamy eyed psuedo-idealists that think they are Liberals......better look again to see what is happening.

And the Republicans.....ugh.... if you would stop spinning and using the same kinds of obfuscations that libs use...maybe people would start listening!! Stop all sounding like you are foaming at the mouth........okay?


There is treason going on within the US government and we need sanity right now not wackiness, to make this stop.

[itsrea]

Breaking

Pelosi denying she was briefed on waterboarding.

Liar liar, skirt on fireYou gotta love it tho folks... Pelosi FINALLY finds SOMETHING to nail Bush to the wall on...

Fine-aaaaaaa-leeeeeee - yeeehaaaw - we GOT him now kids!

And where does Pelosi end up?

Nailed to the wall.

:dance:

My personal hope is this is enough of an embarrassment to Obama that it will bounce her out of the Speaker's Seat..

Comsidering he has surrounded himself with criminals I'm not holding my breath... but hope is good, right?

:)

[AvgGuyIA]

I thought of that too. But then I would be wanting to prosecute someone for doing something I don't think is wrong or against the law.

Sucks having standards...The point is the Democrats are going to put Bush and Cheney in jail on trumped up charges and ignore Pelosi and her involvement. Whether waterboarding is right or not, if one goes down then they ALL must go down.

[BostonPatriot]

The point is the Democrats are going to put Bush and Cheney in jail on trumped up charges and ignore Pelosi and her involvement. Whether waterboarding is right or not, if one goes down then they ALL must go down.

If there were any legitimate grounds, Pelosi would have jumped at the opportunity to begin impeachement procedings against Bush. Plenty of opportunity since she became speaker of the house in 2007.

But apparently it's just Bush derangement syndrome. BOOSH BOOSH BOOSH OOOOOH MEEEEAN BUSH EEEEVIL BOOOOSH

[jaggy]

pelosi and her gang are all allergic for telling the truth. I can't wait till all of this splash to thier face.

[bella-day]

You gotta love it tho folks... Pelosi FINALLY finds SOMETHING to nail Bush to the wall on...

Fine-aaaaaaa-leeeeeee - yeeehaaaw - we GOT him now kids!

And where does Pelosi end up?

Nailed to the wall.

:dance:

My personal hope is this is enough of an embarrassment to Obama that it will bounce her out of the Speaker's Seat..

Comsidering he has surrounded himself with criminals I'm not holding my breath... but hope is good, right?

:)


My hope also. But he is far more likely to sheepishly pretend he never knew she told this lie.

[Gengar]

She could always say she was late to the briefings... :))

[TCUFan]

She cannot be this stupid.

Not after Hoekstra got out there and told them to release the briefings. Not after we know they exist.

She literally cannot be this dumb.

TCUFan

[penner01]

Pelosi using the Sergeant Schultz defense:
"I know nothing!"

http://www.google.com/images?q=tbn:F5gdQbnfvHsOfM::www.hogansheroesfancl ubShe's looking better than I remember

[mango smoothie]

Ive got a serious question
WHO PUTS THESE PEOPLE IN OFFICE???
really, how are people so DOOOPED?


Like all politicians, she made promises to her constituents. And no doubt it was at the taxpayer expense.

I would love to be a "fly on the wall" of congressional offices and leak incriminating info. to *journalists.*

[tha malcontent™]

Breaking

Pelosi denying she was briefed on waterboarding.

Liar liar, skirt on fire

A County in her District is about to let Criminals Commit Crime and not get Punished...

Lying is Least of Worries from the 3rd in Command...

:)

peace...