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CrusaderFrank
April 21st, 2009, 6:03 pm
Obama open to prosecution, probe of interrogations
AP

By JENNIFER LOVEN, AP White House Correspondent Jennifer Loven, Ap White House Correspondent – 2 mins ago

"WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama left the door open Tuesday to prosecuting Bush administration officials who devised the legal authority for gruesome terror-suspect interrogations, saying the United States lost "our moral bearings" with use of the tactics."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_interrogation_memos

Forget lost "Moral bearings" (Coming from Obama, that's funny) but Obama has lost his marbles.

Conan
April 21st, 2009, 6:04 pm
That's OK......it will be Obama's turn when he out of office.

LouC
April 21st, 2009, 6:06 pm
I predicted it.

They will not rest until they have their pound of flesh.

People said President wouldn't go there, since he said he wouldn't.

Now they will say "Oh Obama isn't doing this, it is Holder, it is out of the President's hands".

LouC
April 21st, 2009, 6:07 pm
That's OK......it will be Obama's turn when he out of office.

That just sucks and is nothing I desire nor could take solace in.

They need to stop this crap.

Lost Soul
April 21st, 2009, 6:10 pm
How about the things Obama is accused of right now?

rodlang
April 21st, 2009, 6:11 pm
Elections have consequences. There is no way the dems were going to walk away from this. The left-wing base is demanding investigations and prosecutions.

Conan
April 21st, 2009, 6:12 pm
That just sucks and is nothing I desire nor could take solace in.

They need to stop this crap.

Indeed....or we will never again have any man with integrity run for any kind of office again.

Sknyluv
April 21st, 2009, 6:13 pm
"Bush" does not equal "Bush administration officials".

waynevan
April 21st, 2009, 6:14 pm
That just sucks and is nothing I desire nor could take solace in.

They need to stop this crap.

It's banana republic stuff and doesn't surprise me one bit.

Conan
April 21st, 2009, 6:14 pm
"Bush" does not equal "Bush administration officials".

Or we will never again have people with integrity work in any administration.

Conan
April 21st, 2009, 6:15 pm
Slippery slope he's going down.

zantax
April 21st, 2009, 6:15 pm
Elections have consequences. There is no way the dems were going to walk away from this. The left-wing base is demanding investigations and prosecutions.

Why do some people think an election is an excuse to do anything you please? That's ok though, I can't wait to see them explain how they can prosecute Bush and Cheney for giving the ok to water boarding but not the members of congress, including Nancy Pelosi, that didn't raise any objections to the program when they were read into it before hand. I guess if they don't prosecute them now we can always do it later when we take back congress.

Canadian Jane
April 21st, 2009, 6:16 pm
Elections have consequences. There is no way the dems were going to walk away from this. The left-wing base is demanding investigations and prosecutions.


However, when all the chips fall and the truth comes out, it may be Obama and his administration who could be looking at prosecution.

Obama will open the door to the Bush administration having the opportunity to set the record straight - it will be their right as defendents to do so.

oldandtired
April 21st, 2009, 6:16 pm
Bring it on is what I say.

Let the truth come out.

Court of Public Opinion accepts witnesses with names like "un-named source" and accepts testimony like "he lied to me about WMD" (Hillary)..

I dont care if it is war crimes, lies, etc......the truth will come out and Hillary, Reid, Pelosi, Murtha, and maybe Obama will come out looking like the fools they have acted like for the last 8 years where theoir false accusations and reduiculous UNHELPFUL rhetoric

I say MAYBE Obama for only one reason. He was pretty much invisible for...well....his entire life until the campaign!:lol:

SO yeah....bring it on. Let the court decide who the ';liars" really are.

Jeez Obama....now you hit a nerve with me. Enough of this crap already.

BigGuy
April 21st, 2009, 6:17 pm
"Bush" does not equal "Bush administration officials".

Wow, another liberal "nothing to see here" argument....it's the first step towards that path. Anyone coming here to say it's not should be marked as a misdirecting troll or as having no commonsense.

sgtmac_46
April 21st, 2009, 6:19 pm
That's OK......it will be Obama's turn when he out of office.

Ain't that a mother! :))

rodlang
April 21st, 2009, 6:19 pm
Why do some people think an election is an excuse to do anything you please? That's ok though, I can't wait to see them explain how they can prosecute Bush and Cheney for giving the ok to water boarding but not the members of congress, including Nancy Pelosi, that didn't raise any objections to the program when they were read into it before hand. I guess if they don't prosecute them now we can always do it later when we take back congress.

The dems have the power to have hearings and through Holder, prosecutions. Of course, anyone is entitled to a full defense.

And yes, the republicans can and should ask the question...what did Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid know and when did they know it.

kilwil888
April 21st, 2009, 6:19 pm
Obama open to prosecution, probe of interrogations
AP

By JENNIFER LOVEN, AP White House Correspondent Jennifer Loven, Ap White House Correspondent – 2 mins ago

"WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama left the door open Tuesday to prosecuting Bush administration officials who devised the legal authority for gruesome terror-suspect interrogations, saying the United States lost "our moral bearings" with use of the tactics."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_interrogation_memos

Forget lost "Moral bearings" (Coming from Obama, that's funny) but Obama has lost his marbles.

What an ignorant thing to do. Doesn't he have enough on his plate? You know for a guy who's SO smart, he's the most uninformed person I've heard from to date. (Granted, I don't go out much..lol)


Let's resolve all these other important, crisis, crisis, crisis issues before we go and spend more TAXPAYER MONEY to prosecute people who kept Los Angeles from getting bombed and kept our country safe for the last 8 years?? Seriously.....:rolleyes:

Sknyluv
April 21st, 2009, 6:20 pm
Wow, another liberal "nothing to see here" argument....it's the first step towards that path. Anyone coming here to say it's not should be marked as a misdirecting troll or as having no commonsense.

Actually it's an attempt at truth. The thread title is a lie. That's what I'm pointing out. Nothing more.

"The question of whether to bring charges against those who devised justification for the methods "is going to be more of a decision for the attorney general within the parameters of various laws and I don't want to prejudge that," Obama said. The president discussed the issue of terrorism-era interrogation tactics with reporters as he finished an Oval Office meeting with visiting King Abdullah II of Jordan.

Obama also said he could support a congressional investigation into the Bush-era terrorist detainee program, but only under certain conditions, such as if it were done on a bipartisan basis. He said he worries about the impact that high-intensity, politicized hearings in Congress could have on the government's efforts to cope with terrorism."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_interrogation_memos

tjvh
April 21st, 2009, 6:21 pm
Elections have consequences. There is no way the dems were going to walk away from this. The left-wing base is demanding investigations and prosecutions.

Weren't they once also demanding our troops be pulled out of Iraq, and Afghanistan IMMEDIATELY?:lol:

zantax
April 21st, 2009, 6:22 pm
"Bush" does not equal "Bush administration officials".


Tell me, how would you possibly prosecute those who gave advice to the President that water boarding is legal and not the President for giving the actual order to do it? I saw Gibby stumbling over this today in regard to the CIA agents that actually did the water boarding. Someone needs to fill him in that it was settled long ago that "my superiors ordered me too" is not a valid excuse for following an illegal order.

jaggy
April 21st, 2009, 6:23 pm
yeap, obama voted "present" again. I myself would not believe if they try this craziness that obama have nothing to do with it, but obama will continue to play dumb and clueless because his follower wont be happy until Bush and Cheney are publicly hanged.

59Flash
April 21st, 2009, 6:27 pm
I guess this is just keeping in line of former Presidents (Carter, Clinton and VP Gore) coming out of retirement and bad mouthing the Bush Admin. It used to be unheard of. I hope Bush comes out and talks about this. This will be a "Pandora's box" type of thing.

zantax
April 21st, 2009, 6:27 pm
This should erode his support from independents. Bush approval numbers headed Obama's way soon.

CrusaderFrank
April 21st, 2009, 6:28 pm
"Bush" does not equal "Bush administration officials".

The **** it doesn't!

BigGuy
April 21st, 2009, 6:29 pm
Actually it's an attempt at truth. The thread title is a lie. That's what I'm pointing out. Nothing more.

"The question of whether to bring charges against those who devised justification for the methods "is going to be more of a decision for the attorney general within the parameters of various laws and I don't want to prejudge that," Obama said. The president discussed the issue of terrorism-era interrogation tactics with reporters as he finished an Oval Office meeting with visiting King Abdullah II of Jordan.

Obama also said he could support a congressional investigation into the Bush-era terrorist detainee program, but only under certain conditions, such as if it were done on a bipartisan basis. He said he worries about the impact that high-intensity, politicized hearings in Congress could have on the government's efforts to cope with terrorism."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_interrogation_memos

The "truth" is that sometimes a President does things that are, considered by some, morally objectionable while others would find the same actions patriotic and in the scope of his job. Obamessiah is opening a can of worms that will weaken the Presidency and subjugate the office to be no more than a lapdog of congress. It will force the President to have to go to congress, hat in hand, to do his job. Furthermore, the fact that congress approved what President Bush did makes them just as culpable. If charges are indeed brought, and no one in congress is charged (INCLUDING THE OBAMESSIAH HIMSELF!) then the entire trial would be a farce and the dems would be held as the largest hypocrites in the history of our congress(not that they really care anyway.)

zantax
April 21st, 2009, 6:45 pm
Can't wait to see Obama on trial for his missile strikes in Pakistan.

Mike Griffith
April 21st, 2009, 8:58 pm
That is truly pathetic. What a total waste of money. The memos show we didn't torture anyone. This farse has the potential to severely backfire on the Democrats.

ModerateVoice
April 21st, 2009, 9:08 pm
That is truly pathetic. What a total waste of money. The memos show we didn't torture anyone. This farse has the potential to severely backfire on the Democrats.

The pattern is emerging that this administration, and its loyal minions, are determined to spend the next four years demonizing everything to the right of their values...Just one case in point is the NH Democratic Chair referring to the Tea Party attendees as an "unhinged mob."

dittoheadAZ
April 21st, 2009, 10:19 pm
How about the things Obama is accused of right now?

They don't matter. He's a Liberal.

Heck, if a tax cheat can head the Treasury, then ANYTHING is possible.

penner01
April 21st, 2009, 10:22 pm
That's OK......it will be Obama's turn when he out of office.The libs want to insist he was at the helm when the order was given to put a bullet in the head of three pirates to save one American..........but we have lost our moral bearings if we jam our fingers in the gut of a terrorist to save untold numbers of American lives...........which is it?

Dave D
April 21st, 2009, 10:29 pm
I am totally appalled at what our President and his administration is up to.Now,isn't it treason for him and his administration to release classified documents for the world let alone our enemies to see?

penner01
April 21st, 2009, 10:29 pm
However, when all the chips fall and the truth comes out, it may be Obama and his administration who could be looking at prosecution.

Obama will open the door to the Bush administration having the opportunity to set the record straight - it will be their right as defendents to do so.And Cheney's request to have the "whole" story told could be the beginning. That should be a cause celeb

penner01
April 21st, 2009, 10:30 pm
I am totally appalled at what our President and his administration is up to.Now,isn't it treason for him and his administration to release classified documents for the world let alone our enemies to see?They simply declasify them first and that makes it legal even if not prudent.

RedStatePaPa
April 21st, 2009, 10:30 pm
Obama open to prosecution, probe of interrogations
AP

By JENNIFER LOVEN, AP White House Correspondent Jennifer Loven, Ap White House Correspondent – 2 mins ago

"WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama left the door open Tuesday to prosecuting Bush administration officials who devised the legal authority for gruesome terror-suspect interrogations, saying the United States lost "our moral bearings" with use of the tactics."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_interrogation_memos

Forget lost "Moral bearings" (Coming from Obama, that's funny) but Obama has lost his marbles.

"gruesome"?

RedStatePaPa
April 21st, 2009, 10:34 pm
Actually it's an attempt at truth. The thread title is a lie. That's what I'm pointing out. Nothing more.

"The question of whether to bring charges against those who devised justification for the methods "is going to be more of a decision for the attorney general within the parameters of various laws and I don't want to prejudge that," Obama said. The president discussed the issue of terrorism-era interrogation tactics with reporters as he finished an Oval Office meeting with visiting King Abdullah II of Jordan.

Obama also said he could support a congressional investigation into the Bush-era terrorist detainee program, but only under certain conditions, such as if it were done on a bipartisan basis. He said he worries about the impact that high-intensity, politicized hearings in Congress could have on the government's efforts to cope with terrorism."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_interrogation_memos

Actually it's an attempt at appeasing the moonbats and deflecting scrutiny of his rediculous policies.

For that, n00bama is willing to throw this country under the bus.

Cutiepie
April 21st, 2009, 10:35 pm
Slippery slope he's going down.



you got that right. Is he going to prosecute the House and the Senate who also voted for the war in Iraq? I also don't think the dems will go through this b/c a bunch of them are up for re-election and well, a bunch of them are going to lose their seats.

CrusaderFrank
April 21st, 2009, 10:37 pm
Mark Levin offered to defend any of the WH attorneys prosecuted by that scumbag Eric Holder

CrusaderFrank
April 21st, 2009, 10:38 pm
"gruesome"?

Gruesome in Obama book means that the terrorists talked and therefore couldn't kill more Americans.

sivey
April 21st, 2009, 10:41 pm
I am totally appalled at what our President and his administration is up to.Now,isn't it treason for him and his administration to release classified documents for the world let alone our enemies to see?
I know what Bush did wrong! We bring them here, feed them, clothed them and provide luxury facilities such as tennis courts, soccer fields and spas and then its this mickey mouse water dunking process of getting information from the enemy that got him in trouble. These bastards get to live to tell, complain about eating chicken that was not blessed, re-enter the fight when released, sue and win immigration status in America.

After the extremists however, are done with our guys, scientists are still trying to put thier pieces together to even try to make sense of what the person look like before he/she was dragged through the streets, gassed and burnt alive, decapitated and limbs removed. Show us the classified documents for those!!!!

penner01
April 21st, 2009, 10:46 pm
"gruesome"?What, you haven't noticed how they escalate severity with inflamatory adjectives?

monkeymom
April 21st, 2009, 10:49 pm
Elections have consequences. There is no way the dems were going to walk away from this. The left-wing base is demanding investigations and prosecutions.

All any investigation is going to do is to diminish the strength of our country and make it less secure. If there was any actionable activity the dems would have found it during the last 2 years they controlled Congress. This is nothing but another diversion tactic.

penner01
April 21st, 2009, 10:50 pm
Actually it's an attempt at appeasing the moonbats and deflecting scrutiny of his rediculous policies.

For that, n00bama is willing to throw this country under the bus.I think you are right. This is just one more distraction to get people's attention away from other issues. The release of the DHS assessment was the same thing....it distracted from the TEA parties or gave the media ammunition. He's good at doing something to fire somebody up will he fakes the shot and dribbles in for the lay-up.

monkeymom
April 21st, 2009, 10:52 pm
Bring it on is what I say.

Let the truth come out.

Court of Public Opinion accepts witnesses with names like "un-named source" and accepts testimony like "he lied to me about WMD" (Hillary)..

I dont care if it is war crimes, lies, etc......the truth will come out and Hillary, Reid, Pelosi, Murtha, and maybe Obama will come out looking like the fools they have acted like for the last 8 years where theoir false accusations and reduiculous UNHELPFUL rhetoric

I say MAYBE Obama for only one reason. He was pretty much invisible for...well....his entire life until the campaign!:lol:

SO yeah....bring it on. Let the court decide who the ';liars" really are.

Jeez Obama....now you hit a nerve with me. Enough of this crap already.

I would agree with you totally - except for concerns of national security.

Broseph
April 21st, 2009, 10:53 pm
I have to agree with Obama on this.

It's good to see that the Bush Administration officials are being held accountable for their actions. I'm glad to see that being given permission by the government doesn't give you immunity, as it shouldn't.

Thousands of people get prosecuted and arrested every day for 'crimes' far less heinous that what some of these guys have allegedly done with regards to human torture.

penner01
April 21st, 2009, 10:59 pm
:))I have to agree with Obama on this.

It's good to see that the Bush Administration officials are being held accountable for their actions. I'm glad to see that being given permission by the government doesn't give you immunity, as it shouldn't.

Thousands of people get prosecuted and arrested every day for 'crimes' far less heinous that what some of these guys have allegedly done with regards to human torture.
Oh for.......I can't say that in here.........."heinous?" :)) Tummy slaps and waterboarding are "heinous" now? Here's yur head....

sivey
April 22nd, 2009, 12:15 am
I have to agree with Obama on this.

It's good to see that the Bush Administration officials are being held accountable for their actions. I'm glad to see that being given permission by the government doesn't give you immunity, as it shouldn't.

Thousands of people get prosecuted and arrested every day for 'crimes' far less heinous that what some of these guys have allegedly done with regards to human torture.
Poor misguided fools who equate the United States method of keeping us safe with that of heinous! I hope you are even more so concerned with Obama cozying up to the same guys who is responsible for chopping off the heads of our citizen...which by the way in some cases we are still looking for the heads.

Trinka
April 22nd, 2009, 12:26 am
The question is....Is this going to bring the country together?
Is this going to bring us any form of unity? Is this anything good for the country?

sivey
April 22nd, 2009, 12:31 am
The question is....Is this going to bring the country together?
Is this going to bring us any form of unity? Is this anything good for the country?
The prophecy of what the media failed to acknowledge, report and expose President Obama's true colors for is coming to light. Painting the US in a poor light, appeasing the enemy and subjecting the presidency, the people of the USA and the constitution to risk bodes true to the teachings of the koooks in Chicago who preached hate against the US...remember that...?

This guy swore to protect the constitution, and its people and yet everything he has done is bordering on treason.

7426k
April 22nd, 2009, 12:33 am
That is truly pathetic. What a total waste of money. The memos show we didn't torture anyone. This farse has the potential to severely backfire on the Democrats.According to your US government, waterboarding was torture - at least when other people did it.

opsyscw
April 22nd, 2009, 12:40 am
Obam's looking for a trigger that will give him cause to declare martial law, suspend the Constitution, and become Dictator of the US (DOTUS).

Mark my words.

markdido
April 22nd, 2009, 12:40 am
Smoke and mirrors. The administration is hoping you'll lose track of which shell the ball is under, the ball being an astronomical deficit to pay for all the new "programs" that the Democrats have been trying to push through for years.

LJ14
April 22nd, 2009, 12:49 am
Actually it's an attempt at appeasing the moonbats and deflecting scrutiny of his rediculous policies.

Exactly. But I seriously doubt he's going to follow through. Notice he didn't commit himself. This is just political sword-rattling in order to coalesce his base. They got all snarky with him about his agreement with Bush's intelligence policy, so he's throwing them a bone. He needs them publicly supporting him in the wake of these Tea Parties rather than criticizing him. He needs to turn the media attention away from his out-of-control spending.

Waterboarding is a fairly safe subject which offers no personal harm to him or to his agenda. People are either for it or against it, and it keeps them occupied arguing back and forth.

EVERYTHING Barack Obama does is done for political gain. Nothing is genuine. Once you accept that sad fact, it's easy enough to connect the dots. He doesn't really want to prosecute anybody. Think of the precedent that sets. He, and all his creepy cronies, would be subject to that same precedent in the future.

lsue
April 22nd, 2009, 1:05 am
I predicted it.

They will not rest until they have their pound of flesh.

People said President wouldn't go there, since he said he wouldn't.

Now they will say "Oh Obama isn't doing this, it is Holder, it is out of the President's hands".





They were ALWAYS going to do this. Can you imagine the
scope of this, and the money it will cost? So the libs can sit
up there on their sorry behinds and take shots at the Bush
admin for a few months. Then Cheney will make them look
like bigger fools than they already are. Bush will still be polite
to the loons. Not so with Cheney.

I will only watch clips of it on Fox if they do stage this dog and
pony show. Oh, and I might watch SNL skits of it, too. :lol:
We have to try to get SOMETHING worthwhile out of the deal.

lsue
April 22nd, 2009, 1:08 am
Why do some people think an election is an excuse to do anything you please? That's ok though, I can't wait to see them explain how they can prosecute Bush and Cheney for giving the ok to water boarding but not the members of congress, including Nancy Pelosi, that didn't raise any objections to the program when they were read into it before hand. I guess if they don't prosecute them now we can always do it later when we take back congress.




They will have to bring in scads of people on this. Chain of
command(ers). Congress critters, etc.

lsue
April 22nd, 2009, 1:13 am
I am totally appalled at what our President and his administration is up to.Now,isn't it treason for him and his administration to release classified documents for the world let alone our enemies to see?







They aren't Obama's enemies. Getting very plain to see.

For Obama, Americans are the enemies. Dictators, terrorists
are his new BFF's.

penner01
April 22nd, 2009, 1:19 am
Smoke and mirrors. The administration is hoping you'll lose track of which shell the ball is under, the ball being an astronomical deficit to pay for all the new "programs" that the Democrats have been trying to push through for years.I very much agree with this and he has a lot of shells on the table......this is keeping everybody's eyes off what he doesn't us to focus on.

Kook
April 22nd, 2009, 1:27 am
They need to stop this crap.

No, we need to stop this crap!

Mr. M
April 22nd, 2009, 1:33 am
Depending on which of his two opposing positions on the matter Obama takes, he'll either have to free Lynndie England...



or jail Nancy Pelosi.

Coogen
April 22nd, 2009, 1:35 am
Karl Rove could not have said it better that Obama was acting like a Latin American dictator by releasing the CIA memos. Obama is slowly taking steps backward and inviting another terrorist attack on American soil. God forbid such an event happens. The blood will be on Obama's hands.

spinach
April 22nd, 2009, 1:40 am
Karl Rove could not have said it better that Obama was acting like a Latin American dictator by releasing the CIA memos. Obama is slowly taking steps backward and inviting another terrorist attack on American soil. God forbid such an event happens. The blood will be on Obama's hands.


he's a communist sack of feces.
don't be surprised by him, or the idiots in his politburo

they are pretty much enemies of america.
What is sad is that innocent people are going to be caught up in his idiotic policy.

And I think terrorists are far far less a threat to the country than the communists in the government are.

We KNOW who the terrorists are, and what to expect.
We have liberal scumbags in the government who are trying to destroy this country. They are pretty much treasonous in my book, and quite frankly I will celebrate them being removed from power.

Coogen
April 22nd, 2009, 1:43 am
Obam's looking for a trigger that will give him cause to declare martial law, suspend the Constitution, and become Dictator of the US (DOTUS).

Mark my words.

I love how in Obama's speech the other day he referred to the "constraints" of the Constitution rather than the protections as our Founding Fathers intended them to be to protect us from opressive government. I think Obama was the type of President the Framers had in mind when they drafted the Constituion. I never thought in my life time I would see such a President approve of such action by Congress to set us back several years as a country. Welcome back, Carter!

animalnut
April 22nd, 2009, 6:22 am
This from the POTUS who believes in looking forward. That's why he constantly reminds us he inherited this problem. Yeah, we get it, but what did you do about it? You multiplied it by an unsustainable amount of debt.

He's trying to please the far left that is obsessed with going after Bush.

Must be hard to be Obama now. He's so used to adulation, and some of his best friends are disappointed in him. Of course now he's made new ones - Chavez, and other repressive regimes. Little does he know they mock him, as the world mocks his weakness.

If they do go through with this, it will take everyone's eyes off the ball, and set us up for an easier terrorist attack, just like the Lewinsky bs. Notice I blame the Republicans for that - they couldn't let it go, and it's all the country and the politicians focused on.

Mike88
April 22nd, 2009, 6:33 am
Elections have consequences. There is no way the dems were going to walk away from this. The left-wing base is demanding investigations and prosecutions.

More proof the country needs to be split in two. This is going to never end. From now on each election and new power will prosecute the previous of the opposing party for nothing more than partisanship. Both sides view the other as tyrannical. Its over, and has been for some time.

Mike88
April 22nd, 2009, 6:35 am
This from the POTUS who believes in looking forward. That's why he constantly reminds us he inherited this problem. Yeah, we get it, but what did you do about it? You multiplied it by an unsustainable amount of debt.

He's trying to please the far left that is obsessed with going after Bush.

Must be hard to be Obama now. He's so used to adulation, and some of his best friends are disappointed in him. Of course now he's made new ones - Chavez, and other repressive regimes. Little does he know they mock him, as the world mocks his weakness.

If they do go through with this, it will take everyone's eyes off the ball, and set us up for an easier terrorist attack, just like the Lewinsky bs. Notice I blame the Republicans for that - they couldn't let it go, and it's all the country and the politicians focused on.

I am so sick of the "I inherited this mess" because he wanted the job. There is no inheritance in something you spent billions to acquire.

Not only that, but judging by his massive debt from massive spending, Obama should claim he inherited the mess from Washington to Bush 43 since he spent more and raised the debt more than all of them combined.

robinlp69
April 22nd, 2009, 6:37 am
This is so wrong and going WAY to far. This has GOT to stop! Once again WTH is the outrage?

CrusaderFrank
April 22nd, 2009, 8:34 am
Real terrorists have no valid reason to attack the USA while Obama is President and Dems control Congress. Obama and the Dems are inflicting more damage on our economy, our culture our society and our ability to defend ourselves than all the bin Ladens ever could!

muhadeeb99
April 22nd, 2009, 9:04 am
If Obama wants to go through with this, he is opening a door that will include him and his economic team including T.Geithner. Wouldn't you think that some keen person from the next administartion should be hot on this trail for possible mishandling of the economic bailouts.


News Alert: Kellerman, Freddie Mac CFO found dead. Apparent suicide

deportalllibs
April 22nd, 2009, 9:10 am
DEMOCRATS you better watch your ass because the rotting stench of corruption in your party spans the country. You want to go to war? Fine when the smoke clears a LOT more dems will be behind bars than reps. Bring it!

Gray
April 22nd, 2009, 9:21 am
Bring it on is what I say.

Let the truth come out.

Court of Public Opinion accepts witnesses with names like "un-named source" and accepts testimony like "he lied to me about WMD" (Hillary)..

I dont care if it is war crimes, lies, etc......the truth will come out and Hillary, Reid, Pelosi, Murtha, and maybe Obama will come out looking like the fools they have acted like for the last 8 years where theoir false accusations and reduiculous UNHELPFUL rhetoric

I say MAYBE Obama for only one reason. He was pretty much invisible for...well....his entire life until the campaign!:lol:

SO yeah....bring it on. Let the court decide who the ';liars" really are.

Jeez Obama....now you hit a nerve with me. Enough of this crap already.

Yeah, Let us have these trials OPEN and televised. Instead of the sick and twisted Liberal trash they usually pull and put behind closed doors.

Let us do these in the bright wide open.

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
April 22nd, 2009, 9:21 am
DEMOCRATS you better watch your ass because the rotting stench of corruption in your party spans the country. You want to go to war? Fine when the smoke clears a LOT more dems will be behind bars than reps. Bring it!

Ohhhh Scary!

Gray
April 22nd, 2009, 9:24 am
In Obama's eye he gets adoration from the left and from many foreign entities by pulling this crap.

It isn't about truth, justice or anything else.

MaryNY
April 22nd, 2009, 9:34 am
All I have to say is, God forbid we're attacked again during the reign of our current President. He wouldn't know what to do until he held 5 meetings, spoke to 25 advisors and consulted with his teleprompter for advice before acting.

I personally thank President Bush and any in his administration for keeping myself and my family safe from these hateful monsters that want to destroy us!

At least then I felt safer knowing someone would act and not just give lip service to the American people.

Hoobeedoo Bejesus
April 22nd, 2009, 9:37 am
All I have to say is, God forbid we're attacked again during the reign of our current President. He wouldn't know what to do until he held 5 meetings, spoke to 25 advisors and consulted with his teleprompter for advice before acting.

I personally thank President Bush and any in his administration for keeping myself and my family safe from these hateful monsters that want to destroy us!

At least then I felt safer knowing someone would act and not just give lip service to the American people.

What?

JudasGoat
April 22nd, 2009, 9:38 am
Why do some people think an election is an excuse to do anything you please? That's ok though, I can't wait to see them explain how they can prosecute Bush and Cheney for giving the ok to water boarding but not the members of congress, including Nancy Pelosi, that didn't raise any objections to the program when they were read into it before hand. I guess if they don't prosecute them now we can always do it later when we take back congress.

another dog and pony show to appease their looney base with no actual intention to prosecute since they're just as guilty?
our tax dollars hard at work...:rolleyes:

Trinka
April 22nd, 2009, 9:46 am
Congress signed off on all this...Before...it ever happened....BUT...THEY can NOT be prosecuted.....they have immunity.....NOW voted out of office for a witch hunt....OH YES!

Mojotiger
April 22nd, 2009, 9:47 am
If Obama is smart, he will quietly let this die. If he doesn't, he's going to need daily DHS reports on "right-wing extremists".

Trinka
April 22nd, 2009, 9:47 am
This isn't about justice....it's about another smear campain...and drag the past adm. through the mud....hoping we will all be sooo blinded by this we don't see what's going on right in front of our noses

Trinka
April 22nd, 2009, 9:49 am
If Obama is smart, he will quietly let this die. If he doesn't, he's going to need daily DHS reports on "right-wing extremists".
OH that's why he said he's OPEN to it and OPEN to bi-PARTISN investigations....ummmm partisan witch hunt

NKT
April 22nd, 2009, 9:51 am
According to your US government, waterboarding was torture - at least when other people did it.

Who?

oldandtired
April 22nd, 2009, 10:06 am
Ohhhh Scary!

Curious....

Does it bother any of you liberal thinking folks that the man who will decide "what should be done to who and for what reason" is the same man that was soley responsible for the recommendation to pardon one of the country's best known tax evaders....a multi billionaire who never paid his debt and instead ran like a felon from our country?


Furthermore, whereas Holder admitted it was a mistake, did he ever explain why he made the recommendation?

A mistake that is "forgiven" should be based on one made due to naivity or misunderstanding.....We gave Geitner a pass for example as he gave the reason of "he did not know". Credible? Maybe not....but we took his word.

What was Holders "explanantion" for the "mistake"?

Gray
April 22nd, 2009, 10:08 am
All I have to say is, God forbid we're attacked again during the reign of our current President. He wouldn't know what to do until he held 5 meetings, spoke to 25 advisors and consulted with his teleprompter for advice before acting.

I personally thank President Bush and any in his administration for keeping myself and my family safe from these hateful monsters that want to destroy us!

At least then I felt safer knowing someone would act and not just give lip service to the American people.

Yeah. Like that drunk driver on the road you can only hope that he harms no one else.

glg46
April 22nd, 2009, 10:12 am
Does he really want to go there when 4 years from now he'll be on the other end of the Congressional investigations with a heck of a lot more to answer for than Bush ever will?

oldandtired
April 22nd, 2009, 10:24 am
Curious....

Does it bother any of you liberal thinking folks that the man who will decide "what should be done to who and for what reason" is the same man that was soley responsible for the recommendation to pardon one of the country's best known tax evaders....a multi billionaire who never paid his debt and instead ran like a felon from our country?


Furthermore, whereas Holder admitted it was a mistake, did he ever explain why he made the recommendation?

A mistake that is "forgiven" should be based on one made due to naivity or misunderstanding.....We gave Geitner a pass for example as he gave the reason of "he did not know". Credible? Maybe not....but we took his word.

What was Holders "explanantion" for the "mistake"?

Will someone please answer my two questions above...

Not a bait....just dont understand why it wouldnt bother you...and also never heard his reasoning for the pardon.....would like to know where he believed he "made the mistake".

Thanks in advance.

Detwaa
April 22nd, 2009, 10:53 am
Perhaps he changed his mind because our former VP can't shut his hole. As a slap to his face, a new report was released to show that they pushed for repeated interrogations to try to like Al Qaida with Saddam Hussein. Folks, I'm from Iraq, and I can tell you right now the last people on earth Saddam would of dealt with was Al Qaida or any terrorists for that matter. He was a terrorist (in a way) but by himself. He spend decades killing the exact people that we are trying to kill today. And of course we called that violations of human rights and hanged him for it.

oldandtired
April 22nd, 2009, 10:54 am
Curious....

Does it bother any of you liberal thinking folks that the man who will decide "what should be done to who and for what reason" is the same man that was soley responsible for the recommendation to pardon one of the country's best known tax evaders....a multi billionaire who never paid his debt and instead ran like a felon from our country?


Furthermore, whereas Holder admitted it was a mistake, did he ever explain why he made the recommendation?

A mistake that is "forgiven" should be based on one made due to naivity or misunderstanding.....We gave Geitner a pass for example as he gave the reason of "he did not know". Credible? Maybe not....but we took his word.

What was Holders "explanantion" for the "mistake"?

Just bumping this up...really would like an answer. Not baiting...really want to know what His reason was for making the "mistake"....his expanation...his reasoning....

Anyone?

Gray
April 22nd, 2009, 11:10 am
Perhaps he changed his mind because our former VP can't shut his hole. As a slap to his face, a new report was released to show that they pushed for repeated interrogations to try to like Al Qaida with Saddam Hussein. Folks, I'm from Iraq, and I can tell you right now the last people on earth Saddam would of dealt with was Al Qaida or any terrorists for that matter. He was a terrorist (in a way) but by himself. He spend decades killing the exact people that we are trying to kill today. And of course we called that violations of human rights and hanged him for it.

:))

Oh MY! The cat has been at the yarn with that one.

muhadeeb99
April 22nd, 2009, 11:13 am
Perhaps he changed his mind because our former VP can't shut his hole. As a slap to his face, a new report was released to show that they pushed for repeated interrogations to try to like Al Qaida with Saddam Hussein. Folks, I'm from Iraq, and I can tell you right now the last people on earth Saddam would of dealt with was Al Qaida or any terrorists for that matter. He was a terrorist (in a way) but by himself. He spend decades killing the exact people that we are trying to kill today. And of course we called that violations of human rights and hanged him for it.
Good post for bringing this to light. Much appreciation for making a difference.

leftcoast
April 22nd, 2009, 11:14 am
Prosecute Cheney instead - he was the one running the show.

Gh0sTeR
April 22nd, 2009, 11:18 am
Prosecute Cheney instead - he was the one running the show.


Left wing kook talking point #7

nobamayomama
April 22nd, 2009, 11:23 am
This isn't about justice....it's about another smear campain...and drag the past adm. through the mud....hoping we will all be sooo blinded by this we don't see what's going on right in front of our noses EXACTLY! Isn't there "hate crimes" legislation running thru the congress - "cap & trade" bills as well as the mock up of the "fairness doctrine" as liberals distract us with this nonsense and more waste of money?

IF, IF, IF they spent all thru next election cycle (2010, which is probably their goal) smashing the GOP with accusations and indicted all of them - what would that accomplish? Wins in 2010 & 2012? Is that what all this is really about?

Amazing that it's OK to shoot & kill 3 somolians just like that and get applauded for it, but if you WATERBOARD terrorists, then you need to go to jail.

The biggest hypocrisy of all this is that the "real criminals" in this country are still running the financial systems. I relish the day Frank/Dodd and the rest get outsted and indicted - but I won't hold my breath. Too much double standard where liberals are concerned.

Gray
April 22nd, 2009, 11:30 am
Left wing kook talking point #7

..and a complete waste of photons on our computer screen.

oldandtired
April 22nd, 2009, 11:31 am
Just bumping this up...really would like an answer. Not baiting...really want to know what His reason was for making the "mistake"....his expanation...his reasoning....

Anyone?

Libs coming in here. looking, responding to other posts but wont answer a simple question....

DOes it bother you that the man who will decide "who what and how" is the same man that was solely responsible for the recommendation of Pardoning the single biggest tax evader in the country...and one who also fled the country like a coward?

Did Holder ever explain WHY he made the mistake? Where did he say he was mistaken?

Why wont you guys answer this?

How about you LeftCoast?

Gh0sTeR
April 22nd, 2009, 11:34 am
I wouldn't consider it "left wing", in fact I would consider it logical since Cheney is the one making the media rounds and is the one out there saying what really took place. I look forward to his next interview.


No no, the little Libber was referring to when Bush was President, that Cheney was the one who was calling the shots, not Bush.

ValricoKate
April 22nd, 2009, 11:34 am
Obama open to prosecution, probe of interrogations
AP

By JENNIFER LOVEN, AP White House Correspondent Jennifer Loven, Ap White House Correspondent – 2 mins ago

"WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama left the door open Tuesday to prosecuting Bush administration officials who devised the legal authority for gruesome terror-suspect interrogations, saying the United States lost "our moral bearings" with use of the tactics."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090421/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_interrogation_memos

Forget lost "Moral bearings" (Coming from Obama, that's funny) but Obama has lost his marbles.

In another corrective memo released early today ...Gibbs stated that President Obama wanted to clarify his position regarding the Somali Pirates.


"Let me uhm be clear about this. I did not say I ok'd attacks on the pirates ....what I did say was that I ok'd a tax on the pirates."



:))
heard on radio this am ...

asda1
April 22nd, 2009, 11:35 am
So let's imagine that Obama's deficit spending excedes even what he is proposing, the economy doesn't recover, the trillions in bonds fail to sell and we are forced to monetize massive amounts of debt resulting in significant inflation lowering the standard of living for all of us.

If that happens, can we throw Obama in jail? It would be robbing us all of wealth. Either that or we could charge him for destruction of property.

Or are liberals going to reverse themselves on this train of thought? If not, let's get a cell waiting and become a Bannana Republic throwing previous political leaders in jail.

It will be a proud day in America when past administrations are jailed for policy disagreements. If there was any doubt that Liberals want this country to become a third world bannana republic...

kat
April 22nd, 2009, 11:39 am
Mark Levin offered to defend any of the WH attorneys prosecuted by that scumbag Eric Holder


Now they're playing with fire. I would simply ADORE watching that "match"

Gray
April 22nd, 2009, 11:40 am
In another corrective memo released early today ...Gibbs stated that President Obama wanted to clarify his position regarding the Somali Pirates.


"Let me uhm be clear about this. I did not say I ok'd attacks on the pirates ....what I did say was that I ok'd a tax on the pirates."





:))
heard on radio this am ...

:))..

CrusaderFrank
April 22nd, 2009, 11:43 am
Now they're playing with fire. I would simply ADORE watching that "match"

Levin offered his service free of charge.

He'd LOVE to go toe to toe with Eric Holder

nobamayomama
April 22nd, 2009, 11:46 am
Libs coming in here. looking, responding to other posts but wont answer a simple question....

DOes it bother you that the man who will decide "who what and how" is the same man that was solely responsible for the recommendation of Pardoning the single biggest tax evader in the country...and one who also fled the country like a coward?

Did Holder ever explain WHY he made the mistake? Where did he say he was mistaken?

Why wont you guys answer this?

How about you LeftCoast? Don't hold your breath. It's typical liberal avoidance when you try to throw common sense at them. If you ask again, the insults will fly and that's prolly all you'll get, but take comfort in knowing if they start insulting you, you've hit a nerve.

ChazBedlam
April 22nd, 2009, 11:53 am
Why would Chancellor Obama want to put Boosh in the klink?

He should be thanking him for setting the table for all the growth in power the office of president now enjoys.

Frankly, they are both cut from the same cloth, albeit opposite sides.

kat
April 22nd, 2009, 11:54 am
Levin offered his service free of charge.

He'd LOVE to go toe to toe with Eric Holder


Levin is one hell of a great American. He would squash that little cockroach Holder and the rest would scurry to California. :lol:


I would refinance my house to witness that.

Oh and I have a teenager for sale real cheap.

oldandtired
April 22nd, 2009, 12:24 pm
Sure, I will answer

I don't know where Holder said he was mistaken, and I can't possibly know why he gave the recommendation as I was not inside his head at the time he did so.

But, to this day I have not had two major questions answered. Why were the members of UBL family escorted out of this country directly after 9/11 by our government when info. could have been gained?

And, if UBL was responsible for nearly 3,000 American deaths why is he not wanted for such a horrific crime by the FBI? he is wanted for other terroist crimes, but not 9/11, according to the FBI.


Actually, Holder was aksed that question during the confirmation hearing. He answwered it with "it was a mistake".

But our geniuses in congress were OK with that answer. He should only be given a pass for a "mistake" if there is an explanation for the mistake.

Like Geithner....he made a mistake he said. He did not know it was NOT a tax deduction....OK....not overly believable, but he gave the explanantion...and we took him for his word.

But please, why has no one questioned "what his mistake was"?

The pardon was the mistake...but what was his thinking is what we need to know....especially now, before he uses similar thinking to decide who to prosecute and for what reasons.

As for you questions/.....good ones...and I dont know...anyone?

penner01
April 22nd, 2009, 2:01 pm
Sure, I will answer

But, to this day I have not had two major questions answered. Why were the members of UBL family escorted out of this country directly after 9/11 by our government when info. could have been gained?

And, if UBL was responsible for nearly 3,000 American deaths why is he not wanted for such a horrific crime by the FBI? he is wanted for other terroist crimes, but not 9/11, according to the FBI.It is curiouis, isn't it. Do you suppose maybe we never really wanted UBL? After all, we had a few shots at him and passed on the opporunity.

penner01
April 22nd, 2009, 2:03 pm
Levin is one hell of a great American. He would squash that little cockroach Holder and the rest would scurry to California. :lol:


I would refinance my house to witness that.

Oh and I have a teenager for sale real cheap.Maybe you could keep your money and we could use some of that money in Obama's federal bank account. I know that would stimulate me.

ChaosControl
April 22nd, 2009, 2:04 pm
Anything the Bush admin did, Obama's admin has done/will do too. Making this rather stupid. Warmongering, deficit spending, warantless wiretappings. If there hasn't been "torture", it is only a matter of time.

penner01
April 22nd, 2009, 2:07 pm
In another corrective memo released early today ...Gibbs stated that President Obama wanted to clarify his position regarding the Somali Pirates.

"Let me uhm be clear about this. I did not say I ok'd attacks on the pirates ....what I did say was that I ok'd a tax on the pirates."


:))
heard on radio this am ...OMG, this is a hoot. This has got to turn into somebody's byline.

kat
April 22nd, 2009, 2:08 pm
Maybe you could keep your money and we could use some of that money in Obama's federal bank account. I know that would stimulate me.


He has to take the teenager........ it's a package deal. :D

Trinka
April 22nd, 2009, 2:12 pm
It's offical....the AG has just said they will be investigating every detail...and person.....

Mojotiger
April 22nd, 2009, 2:17 pm
Waterboarding 3 terrorists: an obomanation that must be prosecuted at all costs

Killing countless unborn babies: a right that must be protected at all costs


What is the world coming to....