When Conservatives Win it all Back

[CrusaderFrank]

Can we fire the top brass at NPR and NEA and replace them with more competent people? You know, people who aren't such flaming Libruls, because, afterall -- they do take federal money and are therefore in the cross hairs.

[mdk190]

First you have to win it all back. Seeing that the GOP is offering zero in terms of ideas to win back the nation it be all while.

[Residential Bob]

Why not just drop taxpayer-plundered - I mean subsidized - broadcasting and education?

[ChaosControl]

How about stop spending federal monies where it shouldn't be spent instead of trying to influence it with partisan politics?

[LadyGunSlinger]

I'd like to see term limits put in place. I would also like for ACORN to be investigated thoroughly and not given one dime of taxpayer's money. Increase defense spending and cut entitlement programs, balance the budget. Those are all reasonable requests. One last thing, abolish the Education Dept and the IRS.

[Ex_Spy_Guy]

First you have to win it all back. Seeing that the GOP is offering zero in terms of ideas to win back the nation it be all while.



****....the libtards have screwed things up so bad I wouldnt touch that tar baby.


The libs **** in their bed.....you all can roll around in it all you want.

I just hope the libs are smart enough to learn from their mistakes, and un**** the country a little before Obama gets thrown out after his first term.

Hell....Hillary CLintool would be smart to run against his ass......she would win.

[johnrocks]

I'd like to see term limits put in place. I would also like for ACORN to be investigated thoroughly and not given one dime of taxpayer's money. Increase defense spending and cut entitlement programs, balance the budget. Those are all reasonable requests. One last thing, abolish the Education Dept and the IRS.

+infinity and beyond on abolishing Education and IRS. I'd like to add DHS,Patriot Act,Energy and a lot more, nix the term limits though, I like choice , put the restrictions on the government,not the people. ACORN should not get one dime of Federal money nor should any other organization.

[LadyGunSlinger]

+infinity and beyond on abolishing Education and IRS. I'd like to add DHS,Patriot Act,Energy and a lot more, nix the term limits though, I like choice , put the restrictions on the government,not the people. ACORN should not get one dime of Federal money nor should any other organization.


I'm with you on DHS, Patriot Act, and Energy.

[Death Star]

****....the libtards have screwed things up so bad I wouldnt touch that tar baby.


The libs **** in their bed.....you all can roll around in it all you want.

I just hope the libs are smart enough to learn from their mistakes, and un**** the country a little before Obama gets thrown out after his first term.

Hell....Hillary CLintool would be smart to run against his ass......she would win.

Your boy Bush drove the car off the cliff - now Obama is trying to make a parachute out of the airbag. It's gonna be a rough landing, but it's ignorant to try to lay the blame at the feet of Obama.

A war on two fronts while cutting taxes? Never in the history of ever have we fought a war and cut taxes, in fact we generally have raised taxes - you know, to pay for it... Why wasn't anyone screaming about how we were gonna pay for things while Bush was in office?

[Ex_Spy_Guy]

DHS, Patriot Act and Energy?

If their purposes are not abused, those 3 entities should Keep the Mexicans and their weed and human abuses from infecting our country, give us ELINT on what the Kooks in the world are doing....and keeping you gassed up and you electrons flowing.....

what is it with you guys.....you think that if you got your wish and just left everyone alone...and didnt give any money to anyone, and just sat at home...that no one would want to import drugs into this country? Or try to illegally move into this country?

Who the hell is going to protect you guys on the street if no one knows what is going on?

You think the people who arent Americansare going to release secret memos to give us our intelligence...like this stupid assed administration does?

[johnrocks]

Your boy Bush drove the car off the cliff - now Obama is trying to make a parachute out of the airbag. It's gonna be a rough landing, but it's ignorant to try to lay the blame at the feet of Obama.

A war on two fronts while cutting taxes? Never in the history of ever have we fought a war and cut taxes, in fact we generally have raised taxes - you know, to pay for it... Why wasn't anyone screaming about how we were gonna pay for things while Bush was in office?

+infinity and beyond. What up DS:razz:

[johnrocks]

DHS, Patriot Act and Energy?

If their purposes are not abused, those 3 entities should Keep the Mexicans and their weed and human abuses from infecting our country, give us ELINT on what the Kooks in the world are doing....and keeping you gassed up and you electrons flowing.....

what is it with you guys.....you think that if you got your wish and just left everyone alone...and didnt give any money to anyone, and just sat at home...that no one would want to import drugs into this country? Or try to illegally move into this country?

Who the hell is going to protect you guys on the street if no one knows what is going on?

You think the people who arent Americansare going to release secret memos to give us our intelligence...like this stupid assed administration does?

That's just it, abuse happens,when your the hunted instead of the hunter, it's not as much fun is it?:wall:

[Ex_Spy_Guy]

Your boy Bush drove the car off the cliff


Yeah....BOOOOOOSSSHHHHHH....what happened to "YES WE CAN"....Obamas motto not is "HEY! IM BLACK"


Obama said he could fix what Bush couldnt get done....and so far....he hasnt done ****.

even with a libtard bicamerial majority.....he cant do ****....no leaving iraq, no closing gitmo, no recinding the PA2.....but now he has labled Veterans as terrorists, and bowed to Saudi Kings.

Yeah....your boy is doing just great.

But hey.....the majority party just blames BOOOOOSSHHHH so...thats why you do it.....because you got duped.....by libtards.



and I very much disagreed with Bush on spending, and failure to secure borders....but your homie Obama.....just doesnt quite grasp the fact that.....he is still in the same 2 wars, with the power to stop them both, and he is wasting a whole **** load of money....more money than Bush could ever dream of spending.......but you still blame BOOOOOOOSHHHHHHH

DHS scare you that bad?? You cant speak out against the President when he is doing a ****ty job....and not doing what he said he was going to do?


Is it because they told you, you couldnt disagree with the presidents policy or agends....becuase he was Black?

[LadyGunSlinger]

How many more departments do we need spying on Americans? We didn't have a Dept of Homeland Security or a need for it throughout our history. Expanding government and calling it responsible is an oxymoron. Government cannot get anything right. Everything they touch turns to ****! Kick it back to the states and let them decide what is needed on the local and state levels. It's called governance, something the federal government knows little of.

[HudsonHouse]

Your boy Bush drove the car off the cliff - now Obama is trying to make a parachute out of the airbag. It's gonna be a rough landing, but it's ignorant to try to lay the blame at the feet of Obama.

A war on two fronts while cutting taxes? Never in the history of ever have we fought a war and cut taxes, in fact we generally have raised taxes - you know, to pay for it... Why wasn't anyone screaming about how we were gonna pay for things while Bush was in office?

Isn't obambi expanding the war in A-stan? Hasn't he done some kind of tax cuts?? Hasn't he sent Fed. spending/deficit to a whole-notha-level??? That's how to fix a busted economy?!?

[TCUFan]

I'd like to see Hillary run against him again. She might even gain more traction. So far, no one has been able to attribute any of the recent screwups to her...except for offering the Somalians bribe money to not attack our shipping vessels.

TCUFan

[johnrocks]

Isn't obambi expanding the war in A-stan? Hasn't he done some kind of tax cuts?? Hasn't he sent Fed. spending/deficit to a whole-notha-level??? That's how to fix a busted economy?!?

Death Star is not a Obamabush supporter.

[Death Star]

Yeah....BOOOOOOSSSHHHHHH....what happened to "YES WE CAN"....Obamas motto not is "HEY! IM BLACK"


Obama said he could fix what Bush couldnt get done....and so far....he hasnt done ****.

even with a libtard bicamerial majority.....he cant do ****....no leaving iraq, no closing gitmo, no recinding the PA2.....but now he has labled Veterans as terrorists, and bowed to Saudi Kings.

Yeah....your boy is doing just great.

But hey.....the majority party just blames BOOOOOSSHHHH so...thats why you do it.....because you got duped.....by libtards.



and I very much disagreed with Bush on spending, and failure to secure borders....but your homie Obama.....just doesnt quite grasp the fact that.....he is still in the same 2 wars, with the power to stop them both, and he is wasting a whole **** load of money....more money than Bush could ever dream of spending.......but you still blame BOOOOOOOSHHHHHHH

DHS scare you that bad?? You cant speak out against the President when he is doing a ****ty job....and not doing what he said he was going to do?


Is it because they told you, you couldnt disagree with the presidents policy or agends....becuase he was Black?

I should have know better than to expect a coherent response from you.

No one is my boy, because I know there's not one damn person who is able to be elected President of the United States who isn't out to **** us. You can go ahead and keep thinking that the (R's) got your back - I'll live in the real world and know that the two parties are two sides of the same coin.

[TCUFan]

Your boy Bush drove the car off the cliff - now Obama is trying to make a parachute out of the airbag. It's gonna be a rough landing, but it's ignorant to try to lay the blame at the feet of Obama.

A war on two fronts while cutting taxes? Never in the history of ever have we fought a war and cut taxes, in fact we generally have raised taxes - you know, to pay for it... Why wasn't anyone screaming about how we were gonna pay for things while Bush was in office?

You can only blame the previous administration for so long before it starts to become a stale riff...and a Top Ten list on Letterman.

Eventually, someone at the top is gonna hafta take ownership and so far all I see from the current Administration is a game of musical chairs right as the music stops.

TCUFan

[Death Star]

+infinity and beyond. What up DS:razz:

Hey John - missed you in NOLA, try to make it next year, it's a blast.

[Ex_Spy_Guy]

That's just it, abuse happens,when your the hunted instead of the hunter, it's not as much fun is it?:wall:



Im not going to pretend that i was some important person ever when I worked for the DoD, or that I was some war hero....but believe me....you are a lot more comfortable in your secure little life....becasue you dont know what a lot of other people know.

And the reason I know just a little bit more than you...is because I had to volunteer every bit of privacy I had to qualify for the level of knowledge required to do my job.

So,,,,please,,,,the government doesnt care about you....you arent important....they dont want to spy on you...because you dont offer anything of value.....if by chance a phone call of yours got monitored....dont worry.....they probably laughed and said....'well that was a waste of his money'


Dont be afraid, you dont have anything of interest to offer the government....and no one wants to have to have the job....of listening to your phone calls all day.....I can promise you.

[AvgGuyIA]

Eliminating DHS and the Patriot Act would be insane. Why not get rid of the FBI and the Marines as well?

[ddye]

Eliminating DHS and the Patriot Act would be insane. Why not get rid of the FBI and the Marines as well?
So if the GOP wins, it'll be, "The Constitution is not a suicide pact" again? :))

Doug

[LoneStarHero]

So you mean there is gonna be a time when conservatives are actually FOR SOMETHING and have their own ideas, rather than just tearing other ideas down?

That will be refreshing.

[texashusker34]

First you have to win it all back. Seeing that the GOP is offering zero in terms of ideas to win back the nation it be all while.

We don't need new ideas, we need to get back to Conservative principles.

I'll tell you one thing, when they get power back they BETTER have learned their lesson and start cutting that bloated budget. They better control the border, kill pork spending (Not just amendments on bills but entire bills that most of us consider pork) and they better adhere to the Constitution.

No one's excited about voting for these folks anymore because they act just like Liberals lately. It's time to get responsibility back in DC, balance the budget and start paying down this national debt. The only question is how far will this joke of a President expand the debt until sanity arrives? I thought Bush was bad at spending until this new disaster arrived.

Obama. The dream has arrived and the nightmare has begun.

[TCUFan]

When "conservatives win it all back", the very FIRST thing they'll do is throw the far right back under the bus where they belong.

It'll be the same old big government, big business, paranoia fueled GOP machine we all know and hate.

Doug


As opposed to the big government, corporate welfare, retribution- AND paranoia-fueled Chicago politics machine we have now?

TCUFan

[mgifford]

I'd like to see term limits put in place. I would also like for ACORN to be investigated thoroughly and not given one dime of taxpayer's money. Increase defense spending and cut entitlement programs, balance the budget. Those are all reasonable requests. One last thing, abolish the Education Dept and the IRS.

No joke! Isn't it a shame the GOP didn't do that in the last 8 years, remember their promises to do away with the NEA and sevveral other "Departments of". ? Very sad that the GOP became "spenders just like the Democrats? The GOP spent just like "drunken Democrats".

[Gopher P]

they should do more than just fire the top brass. they should implement a 1 party system and squash the chances of anti-american liberals from ever seizing power again

[texashusker34]

So you mean there is gonna be a time when conservatives are actually FOR SOMETHING and have their own ideas, rather than just tearing other ideas down?

That will be refreshing.

Oh please. You're thinking about the other side. Conservatives have plenty of solutions, they got thrown out of office because they strayed to the Liberal side and stopped being fiscally responsible.

[TCUFan]

Right now, the conservatives don't deserve to be in power. We've had since the election of Reagan to demonstrate ours is a better way, and this is where we are?

TCUFan

[LadyGunSlinger]

When "conservatives win it all back", the very FIRST thing they'll do is throw the far right back under the bus where they belong.

It'll be the same old big government, big business, paranoia fueled GOP machine we all know and hate.

Doug


You sound like you're describing this Adminstration to a tee. Didn't Obama promise to bring our troops home from Iraq right away? Didn't he promise that things would change regarding the policy of preemptive strategy? It sounds like a rerun of the last Administration with the bailouts and deficit spending.

[Bluesgtr44]

Your boy Bush drove the car off the cliff - now Obama is trying to make a parachute out of the airbag. It's gonna be a rough landing, but it's ignorant to try to lay the blame at the feet of Obama.

A war on two fronts while cutting taxes? Never in the history of ever have we fought a war and cut taxes, in fact we generally have raised taxes - you know, to pay for it... Why wasn't anyone screaming about how we were gonna pay for things while Bush was in office?

Bush....wow! 435 members of congress and all you have is Bush. After this jewel of idiocy, I'll tell YOU what is ignorant as you obviously have no idea. Why? Because I said so.....you don't have an input. And that's where we are in America today. Ignorance is people like you calling others ignorant......period!

[mgifford]

Your boy Bush drove the car off the cliff - now Obama is trying to make a parachute out of the airbag. It's gonna be a rough landing, but it's ignorant to try to lay the blame at the feet of Obama.

A war on two fronts while cutting taxes? Never in the history of ever have we fought a war and cut taxes, in fact we generally have raised taxes - you know, to pay for it... Why wasn't anyone screaming about how we were gonna pay for things while Bush was in office?

Liberals need help!

[LoneStarHero]

Oh please. You're thinking about the other side. Conservatives have plenty of solutions, they got thrown out of office because they strayed to the Liberal side and stopped being fiscally responsible.

Ok, so they must not really be principles if once power is attained they are thrown out the window.

Should the GOP take back power what is going to be done to make sure they don't repeat their past fiscal irresponsibility?

[LadyGunSlinger]

No joke! Isn't it a shame the GOP didn't do that in the last 8 years, remember their promises? Very sad that the GOP became "spenders just like the Democrats? The GOP spent just like "drunken Democrats".


Exactly! I was soo disgusted throughout the republican "rule" and vowed to hold McCain and his band of nitwits accountable. They were a disgrace! George Bush included.

[Death Star]

they should do more than just fire the top brass. they should implement a 1 party system and squash the chances of anti-american liberals from ever seizing power again

Yep. And Rush should be King of America. :rolleyes:

[johnrocks]

Im not going to pretend that i was some important person ever when I worked for the DoD, or that I was some war hero....but believe me....you are a lot more comfortable in your secure little life....becasue you dont know what a lot of other people know.

And the reason I know just a little bit more than you...is because I had to volunteer every bit of privacy I had to qualify for the level of knowledge required to do my job.

So,,,,please,,,,the government doesnt care about you....you arent important....they dont want to spy on you...because you dont offer anything of value.....if by chance a phone call of yours got monitored....dont worry.....they probably laughed and said....'well that was a waste of his money'


Dont be afraid, you dont have anything of interest to offer the government....and no one wants to have to have the job....of listening to your phone calls all day.....I can promise you.

Well, I'm not going to put my past on display here, there's no way to prove it and it's noone's business anyway, I realize that *I* am not important as a single unit however as a collective unit of gun owners,veterans and State's Righters, we are being "looked at" right now so now we're the Gazelle and Obama is the Lion thanks to the tribal idiot George Bush.:wall:

[johnrocks]

You sound like you're describing this Adminstration to a tee. Didn't Obama promise to bring our troops home from Iraq right away? Didn't he promise that things would change regarding the policy of preemptive strategy? It sounds like a rerun of the last Administration with the bailouts and deficit spending.

It basically is, whoever fell for a different foreign policy with Obama needs their head examined!

[LoneStarHero]

Exactly! I was soo disgusted throughout the republican "rule" and vowed to hold McCain and his band of nitwits accountable. They were a disgrace! George Bush included.

You were disgusted, but you still kept voting them in office! LOL!

Just like a battered spouse who stays in an abusive relationship.

[Death Star]

Bush....wow! 435 members of congress and all you have is Bush. After this jewel of idiocy, I'll tell YOU what is ignorant as you obviously have no idea. Why? Because I said so.....you don't have an input. And that's where we are in America today. Ignorance is people like you calling others ignorant......period!

:pray: Please God, give me the strength to not engage yet another idiot in a debate...

[HudsonHouse]

Oh please. You're thinking about the other side. Conservatives have plenty of solutions, they got thrown out of office because they strayed to the Liberal side and stopped being fiscally responsible.

Every time Bush wanted more money for troops pelosi and her posse was getting more hush money to keep their screeching to a low grumble. But that never stopped them from keeping that running tab in the news, even if it did include billions that they took.
You just weren't suppose to notice that part and many didn't.

[LadyGunSlinger]

You were disgusted, but you still kept voting them in office! LOL!

Just like a battered spouse who stays in an abusive relationship.


Excuse me, do you even remotely know me or how I voted?

[Ex_Spy_Guy]

I should have know better than to expect a coherent response from you.

No one is my boy, because I know there's not one damn person who is able to be elected President of the United States who isn't out to **** us. You can go ahead and keep thinking that the (R's) got your back - I'll live in the real world and know that the two parties are two sides of the same coin.



lol, you dont live in the real world....you live in the cushy reality that the government has created for you, and its sustained by people who are willing to fight and die in your stead.



Jesus, if all some people had to worry about, you know....those who have to actually stand and fight for something......was that there are only 2 people to vote for.....im sure they would want to live your secluded little life.

But they, unlike you....decided to walk the talk and try to make a difference.....while you....you just bitch that your vote doesnt matter.


Thats a whole lot of freedom you are taking for granted considering you didnt have to do anything to secure it......maybe thats why you are are so content to not have choose a side....and you are so content and even probably find some enjoyment in complaining about both sides...because you dont have to stand for anything to enjoy the liberty that others have provided you.

[Death Star]

You were disgusted, but you still kept voting them in office! LOL!

Just like a battered spouse who stays in an abusive relationship.

Well you know there are only 2 choices.... :wall:

[LoneStarHero]

Well you know there are only 2 choices.... :wall:

Obviously you are in the power over principles camp.

Good job!

[johnrocks]

You were disgusted, but you still kept voting them in office! LOL!

Just like a battered spouse who stays in an abusive relationship.

Some remind me of the Cowboy John Wayne bitchslaps out of the Saloon,down the dusty street,through the general store;knocking him over the head with pots and pans along the way; out the back,into the Livery Stables and finally dipping his head in the horse trough to wake his dead ass up only to be best of friends and fighting off the Injuns 30 minutes later.

[johnrocks]

Obviously you are in the power over principles camp.

Good job!

He was being sarcastic.lol

[texashusker34]

Ok, so they must not really be principles if once power is attained they are thrown out the window.

Should the GOP take back power what is going to be done to make sure they don't repeat their past fiscal irresponsibility?

They ARE principles and they were doing fine for a while. They did was men are prone to do on occasion, lose their way in the name of compromise. In their want to meet in the middle they went to the left side of the house. They screwed up and they deserve to be out on their butts and hopefully they learned their lesson. A new breed will take up the fight and we will bring sanity back to DC.

[CrusaderFrank]

We need to be vigilant about "Left Wing Extremists"

We will prosecute ACORN under RICO because they're more of a threat to civilization than the Gambinos ever were.

We will look into the relationship between Left Wing Financiers, news media and Congress too.

We may need to fire a few more CEO like Immelt at GE for being such an Obama suck up.

Also need to see what we can do about AP, fire the CEO, hmm I dunno, something.

Man, this Fascism sure is fun!

[Death Star]

lol, you dont live in the real world....you live in the cushy reality that the government has created for you, and its sustained by people who are willing to fight and die in your stead.



Jesus, if all some people had to worry about, you know....those who have to actually stand and fight for something......was that there are only 2 people to vote for.....im sure they would want to live your secluded little life.

But they, unlike you....decided to walk the talk and try to make a difference.....while you....you just bitch that your vote doesnt matter.


Thats a whole lot of freedom you are taking for granted considering you didnt have to do anything to secure it......maybe thats why you are are so content to not have choose a side....and you are so content and even probably find some enjoyment in complaining about both sides...because you dont have to stand for anything to enjoy the liberty that others have provided you.

The world isn't black and white - there are more than two sides. So, hell no I'M NOT JUST GONNA CHOOSE A SIDE. My father, grandfather and great-grandfather, my uncles, and everyone else who has fought for our freedoms did not fight so I could just "choose a side."

**** that. I'll do what I want.

[Stuball]

They ARE principles and they were doing fine for a while. They did was men are prone to do on occasion, lose their way in the name of compromise. In their want to meet in the middle they went to the left side of the house. They screwed up and they deserve to be out on their butts and hopefully they learned their lesson. A new breed will take up the fight and we will bring sanity back to DC.
I heard that same song in 2007

[CrusaderFrank]

I heard that same song in 2007

You playing this morning?

[HudsonHouse]

We need to be vigilant about "Left Wing Extremists"

We will prosecute ACORN under RICO because they're more of a threat to civilization than the Gambinos ever were.

We will look into the relationship between Left Wing Financiers, news media and Congress too.

We may need to fire a few more CEO like Immelt at GE for being such an Obama suck up.

Also need to see what we can do about AP, fire the CEO, hmm I dunno, something.

Man, this Fascism sure is fun!

Damn Frank, that's the best impersonation of Janet Napolitano I've seen yet! ;)

[LoneStarHero]

They ARE principles and they were doing fine for a while. They did was men are prone to do on occasion, lose their way in the name of compromise. In their want to meet in the middle they went to the left side of the house. They screwed up and they deserve to be out on their butts and hopefully they learned their lesson. A new breed will take up the fight and we will bring sanity back to DC.

I've heard that rhetoric before, and what was the end result? Oh yeah, the GOP Congress 2000-2006.

What is going to be done to hold future GOP office holders accountable? What will be done that did not happen 2000-2006?

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. I'm not really seeing anything here that deviates from "the same thing".

[mgifford]

Exactly! I was soo disgusted throughout the republican "rule" and vowed to hold McCain and his band of nitwits accountable. They were a disgrace! George Bush included.

Trouble is, my friend, Obama will probably take us so far that we can't ever get back.

[Stuball]

You playing this morning?
gimme half an hour

[HudsonHouse]

...we're going to need bigger guns then Michelle has.

[CrusaderFrank]

Damn Frank, that's the best impersonation of Janet Napolitano I've seen yet! ;)

TY! I may try stand up comedy.

[LouC]

What is more important than winning it all back is being worthy of that victory.

I don't want control with a bad bunch of controllers.

Winning for the sake of the country is important to me not for the sake of a party.

[LadyGunSlinger]

Trouble is, my friend, Obama will probably take us so far that we can't ever get back.


I agree with you except that I still believe it's not too late to turn things around. There's a ground swell of grassroots growing in this country that doesn't give a damn whether you wear the R OR D on your collar. We care about the actual stand followed by the vote on any issue. We want to see the majority of them thrown out on their ear!

[LadyGunSlinger]

What is more important than winning it all back is being worthy of that victory.

I don't want control with a bad bunch of controllers.

Winning for the sake of the country is important to me not for the sake of a party.


Well said!

[mgifford]

I agree with you except that I still believe it's not too late to turn things around. There's a ground swell of grassroots growing in this country that doesn't give a damn whether you wear the R OR D on your collar. We care about the actual stand followed by the vote on any issue. We want to see the majority of them thrown out on their ear!

I concur. A future picture of America with the liberals in is California. The GOP won't do that to us, but will kiss the liberal butts of Congress tho.

[Ex_Spy_Guy]

Well, I'm not going to put my past on display here, there's no way to prove it and it's noone's business anyway, I realize that *I* am not important as a single unit however as a collective unit of gun owners,veterans and State's Righters, we are being "looked at" right now so now we're the Gazelle and Obama is the Lion thanks to the tribal idiot George Bush.:wall:


that memo did exactly what the libtards thought it would do....scare you a little and fuel some paranoia that ..... if you dont fall in line like a good little slave, then they are going to put your name on a list somewhere....because of what you stand for...But if what you stand for is the right thing, then you should be proud to be on that list, not afraid....this whole deal was nothing more than a ploy to kills peoples want to rally and show a consolidated disdain for Obamas...really ****ty decisions, and actions, and words, and policy...

Dont buy into that Alex Jones ****. The government isnt out to get you.

[CrusaderFrank]

that memo did exactly what the libtards thought it would do....scare you a little and fuel some paranoia that ..... if you dont fall in line like a good little slave, then they are going to put your name on a list somewhere....because of what you stand for...But if what you stand for is the right thing, then you should be proud to be on that list, not afraid....this whole deal was nothing more than a ploy to kills peoples want to rally and show a consolidated disdain for Obamas...really ****ty decisions, and actions, and words, and policy...

Dont buy into that Alex Jones ****. The government isnt out to get you.

What happens when Obama gets his Praetorian Guards funded up to the levels of the US military?

[LadyGunSlinger]

that memo did exactly what the libtards thought it would do....scare you a little and fuel some paranoia that ..... If you dont fall in line like a good little slave, then they are going to put your name on a list somewhere....because of what you stand for...but if what you stand for is the right thing, then you should be proud to be on that list, not afraid....this whole deal was nothing more than a ploy to kills peoples want to rally and show a consolidated disdain for obamas...really ****ty decisions, and actions, and words, and policy...

Dont buy into that alex jones ****. The government isnt out to get you.


+1

[johnrocks]

that memo did exactly what the libtards thought it would do....scare you a little and fuel some paranoia that ..... if you dont fall in line like a good little slave, then they are going to put your name on a list somewhere....because of what you stand for...But if what you stand for is the right thing, then you should be proud to be on that list, not afraid....this whole deal was nothing more than a ploy to kills peoples want to rally and show a consolidated disdain for Obamas...really ****ty decisions, and actions, and words, and policy...

Dont buy into that Alex Jones ****. The government isnt out to get you.

Again, it's not a "get me" type situation but simply more power that is being ceded to government by both Parties in charge that can be abused by future leaders, I don't trust government that much as it is, I damn sure don't want to give them more ammo.

[Ex_Spy_Guy]

The world isn't black and white - there are more than two sides. So, hell no I'M NOT JUST GONNA CHOOSE A SIDE. My father, grandfather and great-grandfather, my uncles, and everyone else who has fought for our freedoms did not fight so I could just "choose a side."

**** that. I'll do what I want.


Its obviously not black and white.....not to you at least....you arent even compelled to call one side black and one side white and then choose.


Hell you just got done telling me that the world is black and black, and no one in the world could be the right guy for you to be happy as President.

If i had to guess which party you supported....it would be the Defeatist Party.....you have no hope....and you seem to take comfort in it staying that way.


And your family did fight, maybe not for your right to have to choose a side...but at least for the right to choose....and you choose to not make a choice, which is still choosing, but dont you think you could pick the things that are important to you, and help get someone in office that maybe could represent a little bit of what you believe in?

That way, you can spend some of your time, standing for what you believe, instead of blaming everyone else for what they believe.

Stand for something for hells sake......no one wants to hear you blame Boooosh....then say Obama is the same.....and then complain that the only reason someone whants to be President is just to **** you, so **** that you will do what you want.....helll you dont have a position for him to **** you on.....so is it really that fulfilling to get to blame everyone for everything because you wont choose a side to stand for?

[mgifford]

What happens when Obama gets his Praetorian Guards funded up to the levels of the US military?

They will accompany acorn as they knock on our doors and demand to know our business. If we refuse, they'll be there to do the punishing thing.

[CNNRules]

First you have to win it all back. Seeing that the GOP is offering zero in terms of ideas to win back the nation it be all while.

Don't forget how badly they're trying to marginalize themselves. Olbermann's just sitting back and letting it happen, doesn't even have to act a fool to make it happen anymore. Course, he still acts like a fool.

[CrusaderFrank]

Don't forget how badly they're trying to marginalize themselves. Olbermann's just sitting back and letting it happen, doesn't even have to act a fool to make it happen anymore. Course, he still acts like a fool.

A famous, respected and admired Dem once said, "Dems are good enough, they're smart enough and dog gone it people like Dems!"

[Death Star]

Its obviously not black and white.....not to you at least....you arent even compelled to call one side black and one side white and then choose.

The two major parties are one in the same. They're corrupt and worse yet - when they get new blood, they corrupt that too. The only way to save the country is to destroy the death grip that the two parties have and to take down the Federal Reserve.

"On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve. Mr. Kennedy's order gave the Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation. The ramifications of this bill are enormous.
With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these silver certificates were to come into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes. This is because the silver certificates are backed by silver and the Federal Reserve notes are not backed by anything. Executive Order 11110 could have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level, because it would have given the government the ability to repay its debt without going to the Federal Reserve and being charged interest in order to create the new money. Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S. the ability to create its own money backed by silver.
After Mr. Kennedy was assassinated just five months later, no more silver certificates were issued. The Final Call has learned that the Executive Order was never repealed by any U.S. President through an Executive Order and is still valid. Why then has no president utilized it? Virtually all of the nearly $6 trillion in debt has been created since 1963, and if a U.S. president had utilized Executive Order 11110 the debt would be nowhere near the current level. Perhaps the assassination of JFK was a warning to future presidents who would think to eliminate the U.S. debt by eliminating the Federal Reserve's control over the creation of money. Mr. Kennedy challenged the government of money by challenging the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt - war and the creation of money by a privately-owned central bank.

~From The Final Call, Vol. 15, No.6, On January 17, 1996

Hell you just got done telling me that the world is black and black, and no one in the world could be the right guy for you to be happy as President.

If i had to guess which party you supported....it would be the Defeatist Party.....you have no hope....and you seem to take comfort in it staying that way.


And your family did fight, maybe not for your right to have to choose a side...but at least for the right to choose....and you choose to not make a choice, which is still choosing, but dont you think you could pick the things that are important to you, and help get someone in office that maybe could represent a little bit of what you believe in?

That way, you can spend some of your time, standing for what you believe, instead of blaming everyone else for what they believe.

Stand for something for hells sake......no one wants to hear you blame Boooosh....then say Obama is the same.....and then complain that the only reason someone whants to be President is just to **** you, so **** that you will do what you want.....helll you dont have a position for him to **** you on.....so is it really that fulfilling to get to blame everyone for everything because you wont choose a side to stand for?

I voted for Bob Barr, unfortunately he's not from one of the big two so he can't generate the hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars needed to be the POTUS.

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

They will accompany acorn as they knock on our doors and demand to know our business. If we refuse, they'll be there to do the punishing thing.

Yes, fear college kid volunteers canvassing! Fear them! Mwuhahahahaha!

[mgifford]

Yes, fear college kid volunteers canvassing! Fear them! Mwuhahahahaha!

You make it sound so innocent!

[Crystal]

Your boy Bush drove the car off the cliff - now Obama is trying to make a parachute out of the airbag. It's gonna be a rough landing, but it's ignorant to try to lay the blame at the feet of Obama.

A war on two fronts while cutting taxes? Never in the history of ever have we fought a war and cut taxes, in fact we generally have raised taxes - you know, to pay for it... Why wasn't anyone screaming about how we were gonna pay for things while Bush was in office?

Bush should never have gone into iraq or afghanistan, I agree with you.

BUT democrats GAVE him that right. Dems also did everything they could to undermine his presidency 24/7. You cannot completely blame bush for everything.

Obama is making things worse, but then I think that is his plan so he can destory our economy completely.

[CNNRules]

The two major parties are one in the same. They're corrupt and worse yet - when they get new blood, they corrupt that too. The only way to save the country is to destroy the death grip that the two parties have and to take down the Federal Reserve.

"On June 4, 1963, a little known attempt was made to strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the government at interest. On that day President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve. Mr. Kennedy's order gave the Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation. The ramifications of this bill are enormous.
With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business. If enough of these silver certificates were to come into circulation they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve notes. This is because the silver certificates are backed by silver and the Federal Reserve notes are not backed by anything. Executive Order 11110 could have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level, because it would have given the government the ability to repay its debt without going to the Federal Reserve and being charged interest in order to create the new money. Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S. the ability to create its own money backed by silver.
After Mr. Kennedy was assassinated just five months later, no more silver certificates were issued. The Final Call has learned that the Executive Order was never repealed by any U.S. President through an Executive Order and is still valid. Why then has no president utilized it? Virtually all of the nearly $6 trillion in debt has been created since 1963, and if a U.S. president had utilized Executive Order 11110 the debt would be nowhere near the current level. Perhaps the assassination of JFK was a warning to future presidents who would think to eliminate the U.S. debt by eliminating the Federal Reserve's control over the creation of money. Mr. Kennedy challenged the government of money by challenging the two most successful vehicles that have ever been used to drive up debt - war and the creation of money by a privately-owned central bank.

~From The Final Call, Vol. 15, No.6, On January 17, 1996


I voted for Bob Barr, unfortunately he's not from one of the big two so he can't generate the hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars needed to be the POTUS.

Dang....now That's a post.

[Gaetano "Tommy" Lucchese]

You make it sound so innocent!

Probably because it is. Canvassing and phone-banking are the basis of all political campaigning on the planet.

[-American-]

Yeah....BOOOOOOSSSHHHHHH....what happened to "YES WE CAN"....Obamas motto not is "HEY! IM BLACK"


Obama said he could fix what Bush couldnt get done....and so far....he hasnt done ****.

even with a libtard bicamerial majority.....he cant do ****....no leaving iraq, no closing gitmo, no recinding the PA2.....but now he has labled Veterans as terrorists, and bowed to Saudi Kings.

Yeah....your boy is doing just great.

But hey.....the majority party just blames BOOOOOSSHHHH so...thats why you do it.....because you got duped.....by libtards.



and I very much disagreed with Bush on spending, and failure to secure borders....but your homie Obama.....just doesnt quite grasp the fact that.....he is still in the same 2 wars, with the power to stop them both, and he is wasting a whole **** load of money....more money than Bush could ever dream of spending.......but you still blame BOOOOOOOSHHHHHHH

DHS scare you that bad?? You cant speak out against the President when he is doing a ****ty job....and not doing what he said he was going to do?


Is it because they told you, you couldnt disagree with the presidents policy or agends....becuase he was Black?

:clap::flag::clap:

[RedStatePaPa]

First you have to win it all back. Seeing that the GOP is offering zero in terms of ideas to win back the nation it be all while.

At this point, zero ideas is far FAR better than any idea from the left.

[mboncher]

Ohhh if I got my wish, when conservatives get back in power, these are 10 things I'd love to see.

1. All cabinet departments and associated agencies created after 1951 (Department of Transportation) would be scrapped and their resources given to the states piecemeal for them to administer as they see fit and fund. The DHS would be torn apart and given back to their respective departments in the DoD, DoCommerce, DoJustice. The federal budget would be cut accordingly (including 80% of the DHS budget) The BATF and DEA will also be broken up for states to enforce as they see fit, ending the federal war on drugs.

2. Flat tax or Flat Rate Tax codes. Must be able to be read and able to be completed by a standard public school 6th grader and no longer than 500 pages.

3. End NAFTA, CAFTA, stop FTAA. Revoke most favored trade status from all nations not meeting our human rights, fair labor and trade standards.

4. End welfare and subsidies. End agricultural subsidies to all agribusinesses except "homesteaded" farms. Privatize all government run charities and begin consolidating all redundant welfare services that may remain.

5. Loser pays tort reforms, with award caps and payment caps to lawyers. Reestablish "assumption of risk" and trivial lawsuit standards from previous common law.

6. Re-establish usury laws on interest greater than 10-15%.

7. All legislation must be read into the record before any vote can be made. Ban riders and earmarks or establish presidential line item veto.

8. Expand legal immigration by 3 fold, while reinstalling quotas percentages for immigration, and making hiring, housing, and providing governmental services to illegals a class 1 felony. Violent crimes committed by illegal aliens would be eligible for the death penalty.

9. Term limits for all elected officials of 12 years or 4 terms, whichever is smaller (except President which remains at 2 terms). Cap all elected and bureaucratic careers at 25 years total time in office/government at all levels of government (local, county, state, federal) cumulatively. Military and local law-enforcement/rescue/mail/maintenance service jobs exempted.

10. End the Fed, Freddie and Fannie and most other GSEs. Open up to private company competition requiring the GSE's to bid against them. Ask insurance companies, private industries and retailers to present plans to take over all federal insurance and health benefit programs. Farm the rest back to the states.

Oh well. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

[LadyGunSlinger]

Ohhh if I got my wish, when conservatives get back in power, these are 10 things I'd love to see.

1. All cabinet departments and associated agencies created after 1951 (Department of Transportation) would be scrapped and their resources given to the states piecemeal for them to administer as they see fit and fund. The DHS would be torn apart and given back to their respective departments in the DoD, DoCommerce, DoJustice. The federal budget would be cut accordingly (including 80% of the DHS budget) The BATF and DEA will also be broken up for states to enforce as they see fit, ending the federal war on drugs.

2. Flat tax or Flat Rate Tax codes. Must be able to be read and able to be completed by a standard public school 6th grader and no longer than 500 pages.

3. End NAFTA, CAFTA, stop FTAA. Revoke most favored trade status from all nations not meeting our human rights, fair labor and trade standards.

4. End welfare and subsidies. End agricultural subsidies to all agribusinesses except "homesteaded" farms. Privatize all government run charities and begin consolidating all redundant welfare services that may remain.

5. Loser pays tort reforms, with award caps and payment caps to lawyers. Reestablish "assumption of risk" and trivial lawsuit standards from previous common law.

6. Re-establish usury laws on interest greater than 10-15%.

7. All legislation must be read into the record before any vote can be made. Ban riders and earmarks or establish presidential line item veto.

8. Expand legal immigration by 3 fold, while reinstalling quotas percentages for immigration, and making hiring, housing, and providing governmental services to illegals a class 1 felony. Violent crimes committed by illegal aliens would be eligible for the death penalty.

9. Term limits for all elected officials of 12 years or 4 terms, whichever is smaller (except President which remains at 2 terms). Cap all elected and bureaucratic careers at 25 years total time in office/government at all levels of government (local, county, state, federal) cumulatively. Military and local law-enforcement/rescue/mail/maintenance service jobs exempted.

10. End the Fed, Freddie and Fannie and most other GSEs. Open up to private company competition requiring the GSE's to bid against them. Ask insurance companies, private industries and retailers to present plans to take over all federal insurance and health benefit programs. Farm the rest back to the states.

Oh well. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

So when are you tossing your hat in to the ring? ;-)

[mgifford]

Probably because it is. Canvassing and phone-banking are the basis of all political campaigning on the planet.

You and I both have dealt with many "innocents" over the years, but innocent isn't quite the word for those that are in gangs and so forth. Unless you're joking of course.

[mboncher]

So when are you tossing your hat in to the ring? ;-)
Something I've been considering now going on a year or two. Too bad I don't know the first thing on running. Guess I'll have to learn sometime.

Figure since nobody else out there is gonna do what needs to be done....

[Death Star]

Dang....now That's a post.

Thanks. Now notice how it's ignored. ;)

[LadyGunSlinger]

Thanks. Now notice how it's ignored. ;)


I went back and read it and learned something new. Very interesting to say the least. Thanks for posting it.

[texashusker34]

I've heard that rhetoric before, and what was the end result? Oh yeah, the GOP Congress 2000-2006.

What is going to be done to hold future GOP office holders accountable? What will be done that did not happen 2000-2006?

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. I'm not really seeing anything here that deviates from "the same thing".

When the GOP got control of the house and the Presidency, they bent over backwards to ensure people didn't think they were taking over without concern for the Liberal section of America. (The exact opposite of what the current politicians in DC are doing) In doing so, they lost their way. If you look at what they did from 1995 to 2000 while working with Clinton, they held his feet to the fire a LOT and we saw fiscal restraint to a degree (though not as much as I wanted) and the budget began to come in line. For some reason they went nuts after they controlled it all and started spending like the left and due to this, they lost their jobs and rightfully so. Give me the 1995-2000 Congress over what we have today any day of the week.

Of course there are other factors as well... for instance..

The majority parties...

2001-2003 Tied. 50-50
2003-2005 Republican 51-48 (1 ind)
2005-2007 Republican 55-44 (1 ind)
2007-Present Tied 49-49 (1 ind, 1 ind Dem)

Really hard to blame a party when they're split evenly. What we can take away is that they're ALL to blame and sanity needs to be restored.

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/one_item_and_teasers/partydiv.htm

[Death Star]

When the GOP got control of the house and the Presidency, they bent over backwards to ensure people didn't think they were taking over without concern for the Liberal section of America. (The exact opposite of what the current politicians in DC are doing) In doing so, they lost their way. If you look at what they did from 1995 to 2000 while working with Clinton, they held his feet to the fire a LOT and we saw fiscal restraint to a degree (though not as much as I wanted) and the budget began to come in line. For some reason they went nuts after they controlled it all and started spending like the left and due to this, they lost their jobs and rightfully so. Give me the 1995-2000 Congress over what we have today any day of the week.

Of course there are other factors as well... for instance..

The majority parties...

2001-2003 Tied. 50-50
2003-2005 Republican 51-48 (1 ind)
2005-2007 Republican 55-44 (1 ind)
2007-Present Tied 49-49 (1 ind, 1 ind Dem)

Really hard to blame a party when they're split evenly. What we can take away is that they're ALL to blame and sanity needs to be restored.

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/one_item_and_teasers/partydiv.htm

It's not the parties per say - it's the system that keeps the TWO parties in power. Neither one has any interest in screwing up the stranglehold they have.

Without real campaign finance reform nothing will change and due to the fact that those in control make the rules, nothing will ever change because they got us right where they want us.

The government should fear it's people - but they don't have to because they are in complete control of who gets elected and no one cares enough at a grassroots level to force a change.

There is no hope - there is only a tyrannical government, ruled by a single desire, that is so bloated and out of control it's will cannibalize itself in order to maintain power.

We stopped being a government of the people, by the people, for the people - when we stopped electing people to office and started electing politicians. There should be no such thing as politicians - they should be representatives of you and me and they're not, they don't know what's it like to be you or me. AND WORSE YET, they don't care.

[GOP_FAN]

When the GOP got control of the house and the Presidency, they bent over backwards to ensure people didn't think they were taking over without concern for the Liberal section of America. (The exact opposite of what the current politicians in DC are doing) In doing so, they lost their way. If you look at what they did from 1995 to 2000 while working with Clinton, they held his feet to the fire a LOT and we saw fiscal restraint to a degree (though not as much as I wanted) and the budget began to come in line. For some reason they went nuts after they controlled it all and started spending like the left and due to this, they lost their jobs and rightfully so. Give me the 1995-2000 Congress over what we have today any day of the week.

Of course there are other factors as well... for instance..

The majority parties...

2001-2003 Tied. 50-50
2003-2005 Republican 51-48 (1 ind)
2005-2007 Republican 55-44 (1 ind)
2007-Present Tied 49-49 (1 ind, 1 ind Dem)

Really hard to blame a party when they're split evenly. What we can take away is that they're ALL to blame and sanity needs to be restored.

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history/one_item_and_teasers/partydiv.htm

Well said.