Tea Parties are about more than taxes

[BostonPatriot]

The Tea Parties are great, and it's good that people are waking up to the tax-and-spend policies of the current Congress and the Obama administration, but we can't lose sight of the fact that most -- if not all -- of our freedoms are at stake.

If anybody doubts that Obama hates America and wants to turn it into Amerika, all they have to do is look at his accomplishments so far:

He wants to put the Census Bureau under control of the White House. Of course it's no secret that the census is used in redistricting Congress. The Census Bureau is supposed to be a non-political entity.

Obama wants to re-pay his union buddies as he supports the "Employee Free Choice Act," a.k.a. "Card-Check." Since there is no secret ballot in the card-check process, unions would have more power to intimidate workers into voting for union representation.

And, on the subject of unions, he is paying back his buddies in the teachers unions by supporting the end of school vouchers. Keep as many of our youth as possible in failed public government "screwells" (thanks to Rush for that one) as possible, where they can get no education but an indoctrination.

His Treasury Secretary, Tim Geithner (the one who doesn't know the tax code) wants the regulatory authorityto allow the Govermment to step in and take over any company whose survival it deems necessary to the economy.

He is closing Gitmo, releasing the "detainees" into American society, even giving them money to help them start a new life, maybe even in your neighborhood.

No more tough interrogation techniques by the CIA. Of course, the fact that the people who were "tortured" are the kind of folks who take airplanes and throw them into buildings and cut off the heads of innocent people is irrelevant. Of course, putting one of the bad guys in a tight space with a caterpillar is considered by the left to be torture. Then again, the left thinks that putting panties on their heads was torture.

There is no more war on terror, just "overseas contingency operations." No more "acts of terrorism" just "man made disaster. Unless of course, you're a right-wing nut. (see next paragraph) ...

Homeland Security seems to think that anyone who believes that immigration laws should be enforced, believes in gun rights, has a third-party bumper sticker on their car, or takes a pro-life position is a terrorist. In short, anyone with that does not bow down and worship the Chosen One is a danger.

Speaking of danger ... what could be more dangerous than dissenting political speech, especially talk radio? Obama claims he is against the "Fairness Doctrine" but there are talks of sneaking other proposals, such as forcing stations to air a certain percentage of local programming. You can just imagine the local "politburos" that would be set up to monitor stations.

Of course he wants to grant amnesty to all illegal aliens, and give them the right to vote. A guarantee that 99.9 percent of them will vote for their free handouts.

He wanted to force vets who were wounded in combat to pay for their own health care. Fortunately, that one was defeated (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/18/obama-drops-controversial-health-care-plan-wounded-veterans/).

Now he wants to use the Mexican drug cartels as an excuse for gun control laws.

Almost forgot -- the US world apology tour. Apologizing to, of all people, the French.

We either wake up now, or it will be too late.
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."
"Where the people fear the government, there is tyranny. Where the governemnt fears the people, there is liberty."
-- Both unknown, commoly attributed to Thomas Jefferson

[Jeanie]

I agree completely. I know many of you feel we should keep this simple and focus on the high tax rates that are heading or have already hit us and the enormous generational debt we are leaving to our future generations not to meantion what it could do to this country if it goes bankrupt but there are some serious other issues as you have stated that had us all in fear just weeks ago. How do we address these in a grassroots?

[Penrod]

Its about bloated irresponsible government that has made a joke of the constitution.

We want smaller more accountable government and return to states rights and Federalism as laid out by the founders.

[imme]

The tea parties will surely turn into a republican vs democrat thing if you try to turn this into a bigger issue. To me the tea parties represent the people standing up againt out of control taxes and politicians who are not representing the people but whoever is willing to give them a few bucks. I support the tea parties. I participate in tea parties. I do not want my voice thrown in with someone else's movement. That person is not there for the same reasons as the rest. The person who wants to make this about something else is only doing so for their own interest and their own agenda and not what is best for ALL americans. These tea parties should be made up of all tax paying americans who are tired of having their money stolen by crooks in our government, republican, democrat, independent or whatever. This is about americans. Please please do not try to turn this into a right to life movement, or religious movement, or any other movement.

[ddye]

Its about bloated irresponsible government that has made a joke of the constitution.

We want smaller more accountable government and return to states rights and Federalism as laid out by the founders.
I'm sure that you felt that way during Bush's term, right? :))

Doug

[Penrod]

I'm sure that you felt that way during Bush's term, right? :))

Doug


Without a doubt. A pox on both their houses.

[BostonPatriot]

The tea parties will surely turn into a republican vs democrat thing if you try to turn this into a bigger issue. To me the tea parties represent the people standing up againt out of control taxes and politicians who are not representing the people but whoever is willing to give them a few bucks. I support the tea parties. I participate in tea parties. I do not want my voice thrown in with someone else's movement. That person is not there for the same reasons as the rest. The person who wants to make this about something else is only doing so for their own interest and their own agenda and not what is best for ALL americans. These tea parties should be made up of all tax paying americans who are tired of having their money stolen by crooks in our government, republican, democrat, independent or whatever. This is about americans. Please please do not try to turn this into a right to life movement, or religious movement, or any other movement.

The fact that the curren administration is taking away our freedoms one by one is NOT a Rep. vs. Dem. issue.


To me the tea parties represent the people standing up againt out of control taxes and politicians who are not representing the people but whoever is willing to give them a few bucks. I support the tea parties. I participate in tea parties.

I am in agreement with you here.

I do not want my voice thrown in with someone else's movement. That person is not there for the same reasons as the rest. The person who wants to make this about something else is only doing so for their own interest and their own agenda and not what is best for ALL americans.

What you seem to be saying here is that all other movements are only started by people with their own agenda. I am not trying to, as you put it, "throw my voice in with someone else's movement". As I said, I am in agreement with you on the tax issue. But I also do not want to see my freedoms -- or anyone else's -- taken away by an out of control government.

This is about americans.

Again, I agree.

Please please do not try to turn this into a right to life movement, or religious movement, or any other movement.

I am not trying to minimize the Tea Parties, nor am I, as I think you are tying to suggest, interfere with what you perceive as "your" movement.

I have the right to post what my feelings are, just as you do. And as long as I'm allowed to do so I will do just that.

[BostonPatriot]

I agree completely. I know many of you feel we should keep this simple and focus on the high tax rates that are heading or have already hit us and the enormous generational debt we are leaving to our future generations not to meantion what it could do to this country if it goes bankrupt but there are some serious other issues as you have stated that had us all in fear just weeks ago. How do we address these in a grassroots?

Well I guess this is a good start. Email and call friends maybe? Maybe we could have "Freedom Rallies" on the 4th of July!!

[Kelzan]

I'm sure that you felt that way during Bush's term, right? :))

Doug

Not just Bush but the Republican congress. I even naively held out hope that the dems would be somewhat responsible when they took over congress in 2007, boy was I wrong.
Now that the dems have total power they have far surpassed Bush and the GOP congress in their reckless spending.

[imme]

The fact that the curren administration is taking away our freedoms one by one is NOT a Rep. vs. Dem. issue.




I am in agreement with you here.



What you seem to be saying here is that all other movements are only started by people with their own agenda. I am not trying to, as you put it, "throw my voice in with someone else's movement". As I said, I am in agreement with you on the tax issue. But I also do not want to see my freedoms -- or anyone else's -- taken away by an out of control government.



Again, I agree.



I am not trying to minimize the Tea Parties, nor am I, as I think you are tying to suggest, interfere with what you perceive as "your" movement.

I have the right to post what my feelings are, just as you do. And as long as I'm allowed to do so I will do just that.

Im confused. Why did you think I was personally attacking you? Complex? I never said the tea party is "my" movement. You didn't get that from my post. Be honest you threw that in there just as a verbal jab. I tried to be very clear it is an american issue. It just seemed to me that some people were trying to make it ito a bigger issue. If you want it to be a republican vs democrat thing, let me know I will stop supporting it. In doing so you will be exactly what msnbc and whoever else is saying you are. Is this an american issue or is it a dem vs republica. Or conservative vs liberal. Or whatever other term you can come up. The original tea parties weren't about freedom.It was about taxes. You want to protest taxes, im in. You want it to be about political parties, then you are what they say you are.

[mdk190]

Maybe the conservatives would be better served if they spent more time trying to win back the moderate and independent voters of the nation with ideas and leadership instead of dumping tea into our waterways. Just an idea.

[BostonPatriot]

Im confused. Why did you think I was personally attacking you? Complex? I never said the tea party is "my" movement. You didn't get that from my post. Be honest you threw that in there just as a verbal jab. I tried to be very clear it is an american issue. It just seemed to me that some people were trying to make it ito a bigger issue. If you want it to be a republican vs democrat thing, let me know I will stop supporting it. In doing so you will be exactly what msnbc and whoever else is saying you are. Is this an american issue or is it a dem vs republica. Or conservative vs liberal. Or whatever other term you can come up. The original tea parties weren't about freedom.It was about taxes. You want to protest taxes, im in. You want it to be about political parties, then you are what they say you are.

In my original replay, I was responding to this:

I do not want my voice thrown in with someone else's movement.

If I misunderstood that I apologize. And no nothing was intended as a verbal jab. But when you mention "someone else's movement" do you not imply that there is also "your" movement?

It just seemed to me that some people were trying to make it ito a bigger issue.

I don't see anything wrong with that. There is nothing to prevent some people from protesting taxes (as I mentioned previosly, I'm with you all the way on that) and some people from protesting politically. Some people can even protest both.

If you want it to be a republican vs democrat thing, let me know I will stop supporting it. In doing so you will be exactly what msnbc and whoever else is saying you are. Is this an american issue or is it a dem vs republica. Or conservative vs liberal.

I can't tell you what to support and what not to support. I will say what I said in my originally, that I am against **any** party taking away freedoms from all Americans. If that makes it bad in your eyes, so be it.

In doing so you will be exactly what msnbc and whoever else is saying you are. ... You want it to be about political parties, then you are what they say you are.

So if I'm everything that MSNBC / CNN says I am... well, let them say whatever they want. But keep this in mind: CNN and MSNBC did a pretty good job of trying to say that the Tea Parties were "anti government, anti-CNN" , while in an interview on MSNBC Jeanane Garofolo stated that the tax protestors -- were racist and were protesting the fact that "a black man was president." Both incorrect statements.

[tobybear]

I'm sure that you felt that way during Bush's term, right? :))

Doug

I thought Obamas campaign slogan was "Change!"


Fiscal

"The cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden domestic enemy, robbing our cities and states of critical investments in infrastructure like bridges, ports, and levees; robbing our families and our children of critical investments in education and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on ... If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we'd see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies." - Barack Obama, Speech in the U.S. Senate, March 13, 2006 http://www.barackobama.com/issues/


Yep! Still up on his 2008 Presidential Campaign web page!

[Rorus Raz]

Without a doubt. A pox on both their houses.It's just coincidence that democrats control most of government when these protests occurred.

Go forth and protest, but don't insult my intelligence.

[Mr. M]

don't insult my intelligence.


I'm trying to imagine any circumstances where that is, even remotely, possible.

[Samm]

Its about bloated irresponsible government that has made a joke of the constitution.

We want smaller more accountable government and return to states rights and Federalism as laid out by the founders.

Pithy and correct.

It is frustrating (but understandable) that the Liberal media is so politically myopic that they think this is simply a revolt on taxes... a precise parallel to the Boston Tea Party... and/or disgruntled (and racist) Obama haters who won't accept the results of the election. They do not understand that this movement has nothing to do with partisan politics or refusal to pay taxes and everything to do with both Democrats and Republicans spending money that we don't have over our objections... mortgaging our Nation's future (and security) to hostile foreign financiers... while simultaneously destroying our ability to maintain a sustainable economy. Of course I admit, the Marxist moves against Constitutional freedoms by this new Administration doesn't dissuade anyone from joining the movement...

[Samm]

I'm sure that you felt that way during Bush's term, right? :))

Doug

Doug... the Tea Party Movement got it's start last fall when Bush pushed for and got Congress to pass the TARP.

[tislaw]

It's just coincidence that democrats control most of government when these protests occurred.

Go forth and protest, but don't insult my intelligence.


They've had control for 2 years

[tislaw]

Doug... the Tea Party Movement got it's start last fall when Bush pushed for and got Congress to pass the TARP.


I can't tell you how fed up I became at that

[Samm]

Maybe the conservatives would be better served if they spent more time trying to win back the moderate and independent voters of the nation with ideas and leadership instead of dumping tea into our waterways. Just an idea.

More evidence that Liberals do not have a clue what the Tea Parties are about... :rolleyes:


... and the tea bags are not being dumped into our waterways... that would be environmentally unwise.

[Samm]

I'm trying to imagine any circumstances where that is, even remotely, possible.

:)) :)) :))


... :think:

What do you mean by that? :eh:


;)

[Samm]

I can't tell you how fed up I became at that

I admit, that at the time, I was a supporter of the plan... I bought the credit argument... that small businesses and farmers needed credit restored immediately to be able to survive. But then I saw that nothing changed... billions were (borrowed and) "given" to banks and credit was still frozen. And then billions more were (borrowed and) given to more incompetent bankers, investment firms, insurers and other "too big to fail" corporations. What a farce! Consequently, I became furious that they, Democrats and some Republicans (many Republicans, I believe, cast the easy "no" vote because they knew it would pass, but wanted to ingratiate themselves to us.) had so blatantly violated my desire to trust their word.

Fool me once, your fault; fool me twice, my fault.

I do not intend to be fooled again; they will have to re-earn my trust and so far, they are on the wrong track to do that.

[animalnut]

Well I guess this is a good start. Email and call friends maybe? Maybe we could have "Freedom Rallies" on the 4th of July!!

There will be protests on the 4th of July. There is supposed to be a march in DC. I think each state should organize marches to their own state capitals on the 4th as well.

[mdk190]

Of course tea parties have to framed about taxes b/c it would seem awfully hypocritical of the conservatives that did nothing when Bush was spending like crazy.

[tislaw]

Of course tea parties have to framed about taxes b/c it would seem awfully hypocritical of the conservatives that did nothing when Bush was spending like crazy.


:wall:

I'm so damned tired of people ASSuming that I would like to scream.

[Trinka]

:wall:

I'm so damned tired of people ASSuming that I would like to scream.
Me Too!

[mdk190]

:wall:

I'm so damned tired of people ASSuming that I would like to scream.

I must have missed all of those tea parties started by cons to protest the sky rocketing national debt under Bush. Grumbling quietly doesn't equal street protests in my book.

[tislaw]

I must have missed all of those tea parties started by cons to protest the sky rocketing national debt under Bush. Grumbling quietly doesn't equal street protests in my book.

:rolleyes:

[Trinka]

I must have missed all of those tea parties started by cons to protest the sky rocketing national debt under Bush. Grumbling quietly doesn't equal street protests in my book.

I guess your missing it being doubled and tripled now

[mdk190]

:rolleyes:

That is all you got?

Conservatives didn't street protest in mass when Bush spending while the national debt was soaring. A President with a "R" spending like mad and conservatives are oddly silent. Add a "D" and suddenly the outrage translates into street protests. Seems rather hypocritical.

[tislaw]

I guess your missing it being doubled and tripled now

Or the explanations about being pushed too far that have been stated over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

AGAIN

[tislaw]

That is all you got?

Conservatives didn't street protest in mass when Bush spending while the national debt was soaring. A President with a "R" spending like mad and conservatives are oddly silent. Add a "D" and suddenly the outrage translates into street protests. Seems rather hypocritical.


I've been one of many who have explained it over and over again ad nauseum

[mdk190]

I guess your missing it being doubled and tripled now

Much like the missing outrage and protest under Bush.

What is the GOP answer to the current crisis? Releasing a budget with zero numbers contain therein didn't really impress anybody in March. And that fact that the leadership split the vote on their own budget vote. :))

[mdk190]

I've been one of many who have explained it over and over again ad nauseum

Of course you have....It didn't matter when it was your guy but suddenly its a Democrat and the conservatives suddenly found there fiscal responsibility voice which was silent over the last eight years.

[Trinka]

I've been one of many who have explained it over and over again ad nauseum
Yep...done explainin and explainin and explainin it...just gonna go on with our next move.....and knowing what mine is all about

[Trinka]

Of course you have....It didn't matter when it was your guy but suddenly its a Democrat and the conservatives suddenly found there fiscal responsibility voice which was silent over the last eight years.

Why Must You keep making it about the last 8 yrs....How about the next 10 yrs?

[Trinka]

Of course you have....It didn't matter when it was your guy but suddenly its a Democrat and the conservatives suddenly found there fiscal responsibility voice which was silent over the last eight years.
So all this spending is a good thing to you? When do you think enough of the "crisis" talk? and never waste a good crisis...when is enough enough?

[Trinka]

When does enough become toooo much? and a crisis Not so much?

[tislaw]

Of course you have....It didn't matter when it was your guy but suddenly its a Democrat and the conservatives suddenly found there fiscal responsibility voice which was silent over the last eight years.

And since I doubt you even paid attention to those posts............................................. ........:rolleyes:

[mdk190]

Why Must You keep making it about the last 8 yrs....How about the next 10 yrs?

We all know that last eight years do nott have any effect on today or tomorrow. :rolleyes: I know it must be frustrating to be called for the blatant hypocrisy being employ the conservatives. Cons quietly accepted Bush's ballooning deficit and now that are out in the streets b/c a Democrats is swelling the debt. :)) Too funny!

[mdk190]

And since I doubt you even paid attention to those posts............................................. ........:rolleyes:

Much like how the conservatives paid zero attention to Bush's ballooning deficit. Like that?

[tislaw]

Much like how the conservatives paid zero attention to Bush's ballooning deficit. Like that?


I paid attention and I complained and criticized. You mean like that?:rolleyes:

[mdk190]

I paid attention and I complained and criticized. You mean like that?:rolleyes:

And yet you didn't take to the streets. Why is that? Didn't care that much apparently.

[tislaw]

And yet you didn't take to the streets. Why is that? Didn't care that much apparently.


Because I'm the type of person, as I've explained ad nauseum (further proof you didn't read my posts) that takes it and takes it and takes it before I push back.

I sit quietly until irritated and then grumble for a while and it takes that straw on my back before I push back.

[BostonPatriot]

Of course you have....It didn't matter when it was your guy but suddenly its a Democrat and the conservatives suddenly found there fiscal responsibility voice which was silent over the last eight years.

It doesn't have so much to do with a whether it's a Republican or a Democrat; it's more of a tipping point, or boiling point, whatever you want to call it. A lot of conservatives had issues with Bush. But after Obama took office, with the aid of a Democratically controlled Congress, we get the biggest spending bill in the country's history. Oh -- and we must not forget that three Republican senators joined the other side.

As I mentioned -- a lot conservatives have issues with Bush and the Republican party. As a matter of fact, many conservatives consider the Republican party to be the same as the Democrats. And a lot of the support for Bush was a "lesser of the two evils" mentality.

And (just deviating from topic a bit here) say what you like ... Bush was by no means perfect, but he did keep this country safe after 9/11.

[Penrod]

And yet you didn't take to the streets. Why is that? Didn't care that much apparently.
Everything has its boiling point. Bush brought it to a steam. If any of you libs actually listened to talk radio you would know Rush and Sean and all the rest were on Bush constantly about this. If he had proposed these bailouts earlier you may well have seen these parties under him.

[mdk190]

Everything has its boiling point. Bush brought it to a steam. If any of you libs actually listened to talk radio you would know Rush and Sean and all the rest were on Bush constantly about this. If he had proposed these bailouts earlier you may well have seen these parties under him.

I listen to talk radio quite a bit and I didn't hear Rush or Sean calling for tea parties to protest Bush's bailouts.

[Penrod]

I listen to talk radio quite a bit and I didn't hear Rush or Sean calling for tea parties to protest Bush's bailouts.
No they just trashed him LOL. It took Obuma to bring it to a boil andf IMO he and his croonies either set Bush up or Bush is as bad if not worse than Obuma. At least Obuma makes little effort to hide his socialist world view.

[mdk190]

No they just trashed him LOL. It took Obuma to bring it to a boil andf IMO he and his croonies either set Bush up or Bush is as bad if not worse than Obuma. At least Obuma makes little effort to hide his socialist world view.

What is your plan or the plan of the GOP to combat this econmic meltdown? Simply voting no and holding tea parties isn't the answer.

[CNNRules]

People try to claim that the tea parties aren't a basic Obama hissy-fit; Obama is mentioned two sentences into the OP.

The Tea Parties are great, and it's good that people are waking up to the tax-and-spend policies of the current Congress and the Obama administration, but we can't lose sight of the fact that most -- if not all -- of our freedoms are at stake.

If anybody doubts that Obama hates America and wants to turn it into Amerika, all they have to do is look at his accomplishments so far:

[tislaw]

What is your plan or the plan of the GOP to combat this econmic meltdown? Simply voting no and holding tea parties isn't the answer.


The GOP is a huge part of the problem and it's up to the people, not the GOP

[Penrod]

What is your plan or the plan of the GOP to combat this econmic meltdown? Simply voting no and holding tea parties isn't the answer.

I dont like the GOP lol.

People try to claim that the tea parties aren't a basic Obama hissy-fit; Obama is mentioned two sentences into the OP.

No ne has claimed he has nothing if not the most to do with it. He so blantant about it just like you guys. We won you lost. Take a hike. If we open our mouths were sore losers even if we didnt vote for the GOP. America is the loser here.

[BostonPatriot]

No ne has claimed he has nothing if not the most to do with it. He so blantant about it just like you guys. We won you lost. Take a hike. If we open our mouths were sore losers even if we didnt vote for the GOP. America is the loser here.

That attitude you mention ties in to the double standard... it depends who is in the White House at the time I guess.

I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration. -- [emphasis mine]
Any guess as to who said the above? Hint: This current secretary of state said this during and about the Bush administration.

[sgdp]

Obama hates America? Yeah... You lost me after that....

[Samm]

Much like the missing outrage and protest under Bush.

What is the GOP answer to the current crisis? Releasing a budget with zero numbers contain therein didn't really impress anybody in March. And that fact that the leadership split the vote on their own budget vote. :))

You are looking more and more like a Troll with each post... :rolleyes:

[sgdp]

Speakers at the tea party I attended spoke a good deal about Obama. Mocked him up and down, while claiming to be nonpartisan. :rolleyes:

[Samm]

I listen to talk radio quite a bit and I didn't hear Rush or Sean calling for tea parties to protest Bush's bailouts.

Sean was one of the first (and I assume Rush was another) in line to criticise Bush for the bailouts that he pushed for and got Congress to pass last fall. (And if you were in here last fall you would know that Conservatives from all over the country were by about 100 to 1 against the TARP.) But Sean did not call for tea parties then or recently. Tea Parties did not originate with talk radio; they originated with individuals who became totally fed up with Congress and the Administration and coordinated through word of mouth and on the Internet... including via this discussion forum. (Sean may sponsor this Forum, but he does not participate and most certainly does not control its content.) It is a complete Liberal myth (presumably it makes you guys feel good about yourselves) that FOX News and Conservative talk radio created and/or sponsored the protests.

Now please... read the posts. You are becoming very tedious by bringing up the same discredited points over and over without even so much as an acknowledgement that you have been rebutted.

[Samm]

Speakers at the tea party I attended spoke a good deal about Obama. Mocked him up and down, while claiming to be nonpartisan. :rolleyes:

How many times do you have to be told? The Tea Parties were NOT just about taxes and spending. They were the result of a long rapidly growing list of grievances and concerns coming from Washington... most of which originate in the White House. Who do you want us to criticize for that? Rahm Emanuel? Robert Gibbs? Splash the Portuguese water dog? :eh:

[sgdp]

How many times do you have to be told? The Tea Parties were NOT just about taxes and spending. They were the result of a long rapidly growing list of grievances and concerns coming from Washington... most of which originate in the White House. Who do you want us to criticize for that? Rahm Emanuel? Robert Gibbs? Splash the Portuguese water dog? :eh:


Ah, but that is your opinion. The opinion of the organizers? Nay. They say "Nonpartisan, about the bailouts. This crosses both administrations."

If this originated in the W.H., why didn't any of the speakers say "Bush". Not once. They mocked Obama's teleprompter use, they brought up the "bow", etc.

It was nothing about his policies, just cheap attacks.

[Gabby]

Of course tea parties have to framed about taxes b/c it would seem awfully hypocritical of the conservatives that did nothing when Bush was spending like crazy.

Yes the deficit grew under Bush and the Congress that was in place during his terms.. that was 8 years.

In three months the current Congress adn Obama has increased the deficit what? About 3 times. And that's in only 3 months.

Many of us have been concerned about gov spending and deficits for a very long time. But this latest round of spending.. starting with the Bush bail outs are so over the top.

What you are basically saying here is that people have no right to express their concern over the current and future cost of this out of control spending. YOu are wrong.

[KeithBlubberman]

Ah, but that is your opinion. The opinion of the organizers? Nay. They say "Nonpartisan, about the bailouts. This crosses both administrations."

If this originated in the W.H., why didn't any of the speakers say "Bush". Not once. They mocked Obama's teleprompter use, they brought up the "bow", etc.

It was nothing about his policies, just cheap attacks.

Ah, but that is your opinion.

[Gabby]

People try to claim that the tea parties aren't a basic Obama hissy-fit; Obama is mentioned two sentences into the OP.

The OP is that posters PERSONAL opinion. It is not the stated purpose of the tea parties.

Here is the stated purpose (from their web site) of one of the Tea Parties that was held in Albuquerque. They had 10,000 attend this one. This was a non-partisan rally, they did not allow any politicians to speak or particate as an organizer.

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The Albuquerque Tea Party is a Rally where like-minded Americans will be gathering to show their support for a fiscally responsible government, an end to irresponsible and wasteful government spending, an end to big government and ever increasing taxes and congressional “stimulus” packages and bailouts that will burden the American tax payer for generations to come.

http://www.albuquerqueteaparty.com/?page_id=235#What_is_the_Albuquerque_Tea_Party
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Unfortunately, some people seem to be wanting to throw in their meaning for the tea parties... adding every personal grip plus the kitchen sink.

[BostonPatriot]

.... If this originated in the W.H., why didn't any of the speakers say "Bush". Not once. They mocked Obama's teleprompter use, they brought up the "bow", etc.

It was nothing about his policies, just cheap attacks.

Maybe the focus was on Obama because Bush is no longer in office.

As for "mocking" the President ... they didn't mock Bush for the past eight years?

Nothing abour policies? Stop the spending. I'm 2 years old and I'm in debt. Stop spending my kids' future. Sounds to me like it's about policies.

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Ah, but that is your opinion. The opinion of the organizers? Nay. They say "Nonpartisan, about the bailouts. This crosses both administrations."

If this originated in the W.H., why didn't any of the speakers say "Bush". Not once. They mocked Obama's teleprompter use, they brought up the "bow", etc.

It was nothing about his policies, just cheap attacks.

You seem to be living in the MSM's alternate universe... :neutral:

Maybe you haven't heard... Bush is no longer in office... bashing Bush at these rallies would be a waste of breath. At this point, it is not rational or productive to blame him for anything anymore... Obama and the Democrats assumed all responsibility for the economy with the passage of the Stimulus Bill. So what if the speakers got carried away? The whole point of holding rallies is to express emotion... let it out and demonstrate your feelings... get people fired up to take action... let the slimy politicians see and hear your outrage.

Your mistake, is that you focus on those personal attacks upon Obama and the Democrats and ignore the message. Washington politicians (Democrats and Republicans...) are completely out of control and are squandering our future.

What are you going to do about that?